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Well we could stop the train from being built and save a few trees. Mexico needs more than cartels and cocaine to develop itself and stop exporting the millions of illegals to the US for free money. Does that sound hard? The US is $36 trillion in debt. What will happen to all of us soon if that foolishness doesn't stop.
In Seattle they built a lightrail about 8.7 miles and the cost was about $7 billion and 12 years. So, $30 billion for 950 miles Tren Maya is really good.
Also, I believe the true cost until today is closer to 22 billion. The 30 bil figure is from financial times... which is a right wing magazine very much against Lopez Obrador's progressive policies.
En los últimos 6 años se.plantaron millones de árboles en todo el pais no sólo en la peninsula..y se siguen Produciendo Millones de árboles en viveros del gobierno federal❤❤❤❤❤
You don't need widening the roads. I've visited Chichen Itzá from Cancún and although the road wasn't well maintained it's flat terrain and riding on the bus is comfortable. What I noticed though, is that secondary roads were really bad, so there's induced traffic as people don't want to use any other routes where a city car could get damaged. There's also very little attention on public transportation compared to private as rental car agencies and the taxi union in Cancún, an even worse mafia than that in Mexico city, would prevent any effort to have a cheap, reliable alternative like that of Mexico city.
The route between Cancun and chichen itza was built directly next to the main highway. Also the entire peninsula is extremely dense forest. Any infrastructure requires cutting trees
There have been whole teams of archaeologists, paid for by the Mexican government, sent out to excavate and preserve artifacts ahead of the actual railway construction. At some of the stops, new museums have been constructed to house these artifacts as an even further incentive to entice tourists to use the railroad and visit the sites. In addition, over five-hundred tunnels and overpasses are being built with fencing to funnel wildlife safely though the rail-line. Last, but not least, when one looks at the overhead views, there is a lot of jungle left on either side of the track. 'Tis better than having a freeway's going through there.
lol they absolutely destroyed the ecosystem of the region and looted hundreds of millions of dollars worth of archeological artifacts. plus they built rail lines over caverns and did no geological study before building
I actually keep up with Mesoamerican archeology: This is a very misleading comment. The archeological sites that are getting fully excavated are the exception, most are being damaged or demolished if they lay on the path of the Tren Maya (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
The military control the lines. The kill a Jaguar almost every day if they saw them close to the tracks even though is the natural eco system OF the JAGUAR.
Tren Maya is also the biggest arquelogical rescue in mexican history. More than 60,000 sites & 1.5 million objects and 700 human remains are been recovered. There are 9 museums and 29 archeological sites.
I actually keep up with Mesoamerican archeology: This is a very misleading comment. The archeological sites that are getting fully excavated are the exception, most are being damaged or demolished if they lay on the path of the Tren Maya (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
@@albertoschneider6317 it's absolutely going to be worth it in the long run. Short sighted people don't need to hold back Mexico's advancements over a few lost ceramic bowls. Talk about crying over spilled milk 🙄
Like Italy or Greece, one probably can not help but hit an archeological find even using a spade. So, the archaeologists fan out in front of the digging, saving what they can and documenting that which will require removal or movement. It's what happens in a lot of places including Egypt for instance. So, the area can stay undeserved and poor, or a very small amount of history documented but lost. Which do you prefer: A Mayan living quarters or 1,000,000 jobs?
Yes exactly. There are millions upon millions more acres of dead civilizations to be excavated in the Yucatan. This narrow strip of rail line in this massive forest won't even hit 1% of the lost archaeological sites, if that many. It's absolute foolishness to think every little clay pot or arrowhead needs to stop construction. Get realistico 🙄
Sele olvidó comentar al hombre blanco, que gracias a estas ferrovías y los trenes los nativos pueden trasladarse a los hospitales, mercados... Y que eran nativos americanos olvidados por el gobierno y que hasta apenas se les otorgó una inversión de prosperidad.
@@marcoshernandez3964 ¿A poco el tren lo ocupan para transporte del día a día? Jajajjaa, puto atole con el dedo mi niño jajajjaa. Ahi le van un puño de frijol con gorgojo!!!
@@rolandoantoniomirandamendo4633 Cheap comment. Why not talk about foreign companies that impact the environment way more if that is an important topic?
@@rolandoantoniomirandamendo4633 Whataboutism?! Try false equivalency. One project aims to improve the lives of the local people, is doing its best to preserve both nature and history, and where it can, is replacing or repairing what it destroys. US based Vulcan Materials is essentially pillaging the area like the corporate pirates that they are. They have no plans to repair what they've destroyed, and all to satisfy no one else but their shareholders. But, because it's a US company, you don't hear corporate media making a stink about the much greater environmental damage of Vulcan, but they talk about Tren Maya like it was Chernobyl.
I will take a train any day over a bus as they are infinitely more comfortable-especially a new train. This project sounds like an excellent idea and over time will probably be a huge win. The government should probably charge tourists a higher price than local residents to use.
Local , nationals , and foreigners have a different price. I live next to the railway and believe me I see every time more and more are using it as a transportation, it’s better than the bus. Got to buy the tickets head of time because they get sold out quickly.
Is already built sir. You should make a video of the Environmental destruction that the US company Vulcan did south of playa del carmen,hotel resorts have done a lot of destruction too.
The thumbnail seems to be a direct copy of a video made by the B1M a couple years ago Edit: Search up “Mexico jungle railway”, the first video to appear is this one, then if you scroll down you find the B1M video from a couple years ago with the same thumbnail
Hi what a great video! Very objective and clear. I am from the Yucatan peninsula and at first people were very divided about the train. However, now that the whole route has been inaugurated 100% people who didn't like it before, are giving it a try and it is being a success! Just as a clarification, the train from Cancun to Chichen Itza does not take 2.5 hours. That was reported when the trains were being tested and the electrification of the track was not completely finished, now that everything is finished and the trains reach their maximum speed (which if I'm not mistaken is around 140-160 km/h) from Cancun to Chichen Itza is done in 1.5 to 2 hours maximum!
as a Gringo living in Mexico and a history buff .... I think the Mexican government has done a great job at protecting historical areas all over the country . A nation with so many historical sites still needs to make sure that those alive today get as much care and attention . We can not have the past be MORE important than the present. The train is an outstanding addition to Mexico infrastructure !
the Mexican government has done a great job??? OMG!!! In what kind of Mexico do you live in? San Miguel de Allende? Condesa, Roma, Polanco? San Pedro in Monterrey? Puerto Vallarta? or other Gentrificated area? The train is an outstanding addition to Mexico infrastructure!?!?! Please try to search for alternative MEXICAN sources of information that are not paid and manipulated by the government and I'm sure your opinion will change. Tourism is one of the worst paid industries, not only in Mexico but around the world. Taking into consideration that Mexico receives in Average 40 million visitors per year, and 38 million of those only stay in Quintana Roo in ALL INCLUSIVE RESORTS this $30B project just puts Mexico's economy in the ER. This money will never, EVER be recovered. They just created a money sucking hole for eternity, wasting resources to keep it rolling and redoing, because as it is brand new it shines and looks somehow cool. Wait 10 years and you will regret ever thinking that this was a good idea.
crazy how a "gringo" living in mexico is oblivious to just how shitty spending billions of dollars on a useless project is for the millions of mexican citizens that are getting screwed over in government education and public healthcare as the new government has refused to fully fund these areas. This new government is a joke that takes advantage of misinformation and ignorance of it's own people to gain power and egotistical obsession with projects such as the tren maya that will be in ruins in the coming years
As somebody who actually keeps up with Mesoamerican archeology and published literature, saying that Mexico does a "great job of protecting historical areas" is a kinda iffy statement. On one hand there is nothing like the INAH say here in the United States, and I think it's great that the Mexican goverment does take the subject seriously to a degree. But the INAH is also massively underfunded and has regular budget cuts, to the point where sites often have to be reburied because there aren't money for full excavations. And corruption means that archeological sites are often damaged or demolished for construction projects, and the Tren maya is no exception here: The vast majority of the sites in the path of the Tren are being damaged or totally demolished (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. You said that Archeologists had 1+ year to clear the path, but when there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of monuments, that's not nearly enough time. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites. Also, it bugs me that the INAH claims Copyright on it's photos and scans of artifacts and monuments. The Mediateca INAH site does host a lot of photos with CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 licenses, but that still prevents most educational use of the images. They should really just be CC-BY or CC-BY-SA .
I believe Mexico 🇲🇽 has done a great job with this Tren Maya everything is looking good and see no major problems with the eco system us Mexicans take good care of Mother Nature.
Decent, but not really. There's a lot of money laundering, and it's way behind schedule. But that's typical Mexico though. It's a great project though fundementally
@@michaelmccarthy5632this government is not like the ones before the cuarta, 7 years ago before amlo, the world doesn’t yet, they still think is the same weak as before.
I actually keep up with Mesoamerican archeology, it's damaging the very archeological sites it's meant to provide access to. The archeological sites that are getting fully excavated are the exception, most are being damaged or demolished if they lay on the path of the Tren Maya (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
@@michaelmccarthy5632 There is much context left out of this video why the costs increased and is taking longer. Another biased video that just repeats the same thing western media spews. It's only bad when non white/developing countries do it. US erased all natives and their sites, have built thousands and thousands of miles of roads and highways and no problem there. Also, US gov is the biggest money launder/pyramid scheme on Earth but hey, Typical US
@@christopheralejandromezapa8934 con la excepción de los clasistas, racistas, traidores a su país y necios para la lógica. Esos gritones están en contra.
It would be nice if you provided more context about the low ridership. Currently there are only about 12 out of the 30+ train that will be operating at maximum capacity. Also about the Mayan ruins possibly being lost due to the construction of the train. It would be also nice noting that the Mexican national Institute of history and anthropology had about 1+ years to clear up the path of the train, there are several videos documenting this during the construction, which is the reason why there are segments of the train line that are not yet done. The artifacts that were found during the construction of the train will be in local museums, some of which have already opened. The train route was changed a few times when Mayan ruins were found, which is why the train experienced several delays.
I actually keep up with Mesoamerican archeology: This is a very misleading comment. The archeological sites that are getting fully excavated are the exception, most are being damaged or demolished if they lay on the path of the Tren Maya (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. You said that Archeologists had 1+ year to clear the path, but when there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of monuments, that's not nearly enough time. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
Hola Regis & crew! Great video. I think connecting the Yucatán peninsula is a good project for locals and all of Mexico. This is a new project and we will not see the complete benefits immediately. In the long run this project will satisfy everyone.
This is one thing I wish they would have done environmentally. When the trains reach the Jungles, the Tracks would be Elevated on Viaduct. They actually did this at a reserve in Africa. At least building Vuaducts would have minimalized the environmental impact, and protected the Jaguar population
Even with the current design, the tracks travel over cenotes and caverns that were not accounted for in geological surveys. Every day the project is closer to a collapse as the ground beneath the track was not prepared to support the use of trains in some areas
I took the train to visit family in the region and loved it. It's honestly a lot more efficient to travel than local roads as local roads are underfunded and contain a lot of damage and potholes that slow u down a lot. I would recommend its use as it does connect a beautiful part of Mexico to the rest of the world and allows u to see parts of Mexico that used to be nearly inaccessible. Also the locals are both amazed by it still. I saw a lot of construction workers recording the train as it passed by and gave me a sense of national pride for the locals
I have many family members who live in the southern states of Mexico, and they are very positive about the economic benefits that will come from building the TREN MAYA. they are happy that the train don't run in the middle of their town, but it's away from town. having the train run across the town disrupts daily life. its better having a light rail system like in Campeche that connects Tren Maya and Campeche city town. I live in Chicago and i am very happy now there are daily flights with United to Tulum. we can board the Tren maya and stay in Tulum at Tulum Tren Maya hotel. its a FANTASTIC PROYECT. and just like any mega project of infrastructure there are cons and benefits.
I'm a Mexican Railway Engineering student, I can share some interesting facts about this megaproject, Mexico is not only going to build the tren Maya, we are going to build (more accurately, rebuild and improve) a massive nationwide passenger railway network, the tren Maya is basically just the beginning of it all, the idea is to connect efficiently and economically from north to south and all around, Mexico city is going to get like 5 different routes connecting to the most important cities like Guadalajara, Querétaro, Laredo, and a lot more, and the government is really trying to get it done, my own career was tailor-made in 2020 by the government via the National Polytechnic institute to provide the whole project with specifically prepared Professionals, so yeah, Mexico is on the tracks (pun absolutely intended) to get a massive railway network, and it's one of the flagship projects of this new government that just came to power in 2018 and continues with the new president Claudia Scheinbaum, so yeah, trains are cool and Mexico is finally noticing, I'd be happy to answer any questions you have for me!
This rail line and the Atlantic/Pacific rail line is for infrastructure needs into place for manufacturing/assembly plants in order to export to countries within those two oceans. All other activities is secondary and their revenues will be used for further infrastructure support.
Interesting bit of knowledge that I picked up recently about this issue is that this was made without the real consent of the Maya people. Yes the Maya people still exist, they still live on the Yucatán Peninsula unlike most meso American peoples they have successfully fought for their dependence, at least three separate times. They are part of Mexico by choice not by force, and quite frankly if they change their minds about that, that will probably result in a new state of Yucatán. Thus it is important that the military have control over this train system so that it cannot be used against the national government. If things get a little more problematic shall we say.
I don't know what's on the mind of those people who doesn't like this project and then they will complain about the traffic and the economy of the country. Like HELLO!!!!! those country who has the best Train system already solve those two problems they been complaining again and again. Just look at Japan their train system solves what the public needs, your not stuck in the traffic less hassle going back and fort plus it generates Billions from the local commuter and tourist.
Most archeologists are critical of the project. I keep up with mesoamerican history and archeology, and most of the sites in the path of the Tren are being damaged or demolished (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. You said that Archeologists had 1+ year to clear the path, but when there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of monuments, that's not nearly enough time. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
Not bad but you are missing basic like the ticket prices from the start this was already set, they are 3 types of pricing, locals, nationals and non nationals, the cheaper is more than clear, locals, the pay less than nationals non-locals and waaayy less than non-nationals. And then you have the classic discounts we have, for students and elderly people. Other point is the trees, they will not plant in the future, those trees are already there, as they were working cutting trees new trees were planted non only in site but in other places when they are "needed" around and project was finished as of the 14 of december .
In Perú they divide some train cars by foreigners (super expensive, very comfortable) and nationals (super cheap and squeezed in like sardines). It could work to do something like that but less extreme to boost users.
@@M4teo. it did seem like a harsh policy in Peru. There was a pregnant American lady crying because she wasn’t allowed in the cheap car with her Peruvian husband. We also would have been happy to go in the cheap one.
Mexico is setting the example of how to connect cities. The Tren Maya has so many great benefits. Just the fact that due to construction It’s unearthed 100s of Mayan Artifacts. California has been trying to build a train for years, Mexico is setting the example right.
one thing you missed is the program "sembrando vida" its basically the largest reforestation program in the world (unless china has one that we are not aware of) so yeah.. the program not only heped with the planting of trees but also with agriculture that kept food inflation low in the last couple of years.. also you did not mentioned (even tho you actually showed a part of it in the video) you did not mention that the project also involved a new airport.. the tulum airport that has its own mayan train station... so tulum has 2 stations... one in the outskirts of the city and one in the airport... an airport that by the way is already getting a lot of people so yes... the mayan train will get more people
I looked at taking the train from Merida to Cancun. The stations are located outside of the cities so I had to factor in the additional travel time there and cost for the longer Uber drive. The tickets are decently expensive and there weren't a lot departure times to choose from. I eventually just took an ADO bus which was direct to Cancun - longer trip but cheaper and simpler (the bus was quite comfy). I think a train is a good idea eventually, but doesn't seem like the right time. Most locals don't use it and it's not giving the government the return on investment like they expected. Improving the highway system first while carefully and slowly building the train seems to make the most sense.
I think it's an amazing opportunity for the country but it would have to be designed as a commuter rail for locals, as well as for tourists. I'm sure prices could be tiered so locals get affordable rates - but movement around the country by local communities is where the real gain is here. However, the cenote and archaeological site situations present challenges that a fast tracked approach is unsuitable for... It's a mistake to press forward without planning for all of that. It takes patience and a dedication to doing it right though. I hope they can solve these issues because I see amazing potential here that makes me excited for Mexico!
This is gonna be so bad for the indigenous communities who live there. They are all against this project yet the government being anti-indigenous and using salaried military personal to build the project doesn't care for their plight. The new president also, when she was a governor of Mexico City, deployed the police against the Hñähñu (Otomi) people who took control of the National Institute of Indigenous Peoples (INPI) and whose rights kept being violated because she refused to negotiate with them. The stations don't connect to airports and local businesses and you often have to take a taxi from private companies. The train only gets 5% of expected drivers anyway and there are already roads that could be taken instead of destroying so much history
The project also replanted literally millions of trees, last year it was the largest reforestation project in the world with half a billion trees planted, before it was taken over by a Chinese project this year.
One thing that should be touched on more is the fact that the Maya civilization at one point in time had settled the entire Yucatán peninsula meaning that no matter what the Tren Maya is destroying sites which is devastating because it takes away from an already under appreciated and under researched topic (mesoamerica) it’s important for the world to know just how awesome these people were, and that they were comparable to the Roman’s and other great civilizations of history and thus deserve a spot in history right next to other greats
You should hear from the other point of view. This video is only a collection of lies presented to attack the current transformation movement with 78% percent of the population in favor. Only traitors to México follow these biased lies
also the environmental damage is way less coming from a train than from a highway and way more less from american mining company’s and hotel chains that destroy the vegetation and ban mexicans to enter the beaches (all beaches in mexico are public)
Brother by the time I’m making this post.. all the 5 Routes are operable. And this is the first time it reopens occupying the whole Peninsula and hopefully gets a better management then the last one😮💨plus the new Plant at Tonalá is a better boost for Our Country
México has some of the most interesting cultures like mayas and aztecs obviously this is beneficial for the ppl they get better jobs and transportation we mexicans support this and former president lopez obrador, mexico is becoming a super power economically but culturally we're already s super power 👍
I think it’s good, that they are trying to develop that area but it is sad seeing those historical artifacts being destroyed. It would have been better for them to have found a way around it.
Se llaman restos arqueológicos y NO se destruyó nada., al contrario se están restaurando las ciudades mayas.ojala puedas venir a verlo por ti mismo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Teldaewick_RE los ingenieros pagados por vulcan materials y los otros por greenpeace ..investiga de donde obtienen sus ingresos. Tal vez si a.mi me.pagan bien. Me puedo quejar de que la D__E__A es el cartel más grande del mundo ........
@@HabeasData-c2q I actually keep up with Mesoamerican archeology: This is a very misleading comment. The archeological sites that are getting fully excavated are the exception, most are being damaged or demolished if they lay on the path of the Tren Maya (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. You said that Archeologists had 1+ year to clear the path, but when there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of monuments, that's not nearly enough time. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
I remember driving along the toll roads when I was there in 2023 and seeing the train lines being built. The toll roads are expensive and empty also already. I would rather take a train and relax though.
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I took Tren Maya from Cancun to Chichen Itza, it’s pretty incredible how big of a project it is. The Cancun station is extremely large and comparable to a large modern municipal airport terminal.
It is a smart project. Built to connect touristic sites with tourism. It would´ve been more useful to have built a freeway good for EVERYTHING, tourism, commerce, cars buses trucks. etc. Perhaps in the future, they can widen it to accommodate the freeway for everybody to travel to wherever they want to go, at any time they want or need to go. Good start though..
Jajajajja tipical gringo only thinking in freeways, that train will serve to everything, we dont need cars, buses or trucks bcs ppl & merch would be transported by train.
Overall the project is a good idea even with its potential impacts on the local environment and archeological sites. It's a long-term region/nation shaping project that should be considered a success or fail over a longer timeline than just every quarter. Having said that it clearly needs to run MULTIPLE types of trains on the line to get full usage out of it... I.e. it needs Ouigo style budget trains, luxury trains, freight trains and commuter rail services on it to cater to every type of customer to truly make it a successful project by any measure... Kind of like the UK main lines...
I'm retired at 27, went from Grace to Grace. This video here reminds me of mv transformation from a nobodv to good home, honest wife and 35k biweekly and a good daughter full of love
This project is wonderful, I was in favor of this project and believe me I see more and more people using it which is great for the local economy. I live by the railway so I see it everyday pass by :).
Misleading video, the project is 100% finished as of the weekend of 12/14/24. Over 100K direct and indirect jobs were created, trains are still been produced to this date (takes a while to produce the many trains that are needed). Construction was estimated at 23 billion USD, teams of archeologist from INAH were always ahead of construction researching, cleaning up and moving sites when needed. Viaducts were built in many locations to avoid drilling/building into cenotes. Sometimes I wonder if you people are just ignorant, have bad sources, or are simply bought to report your lies.
tricky. on one hand tourists need to ease cancun shore and acess to maya ruins, on the other hand is a massive forest that we ought to preserve... kilinmanajo has its own airport... why not a small airport in chichten itza? it would disturb less forest... also: if you go to cancun, you want to go to cancun... u dont want to go anywhere else... im guessing. how many tourists arriving in cancun stay on the shore? what % goes more cultural? is it worth it 30B? i dont think so... 3 hours bus is easy doing...
Trains are much more environmentally friendly than airplanes and they are also much more efficient when it comes to getting in and out. I would much rather get to chichen itza by train than having to go through all the hassle of going through airport security let alone the high costs of flying. Besides Mexico has one of the worlds largest replantation projects, the government has planted millions of trees to recompense for the trees that were cut down and they will continue doing so in the future, you should listen to Claudia Sheinbaum's speech that she gave to other nations in the G20 summit perhaps you will like her proposal.
Ancient things being damaged? There has a been a historical amount of archeological findings thanks to this project, as well as many trees being planted.
To be fair that's most jobs to a large extent. Our society isn't built for the individual, but for the economy. We build far more than we maintain and there will always be people needing work so the machine grinds on. Obviously this is a very vague take but it only gets worse the deeper you look
According to Secretaría del Trabajo y Previsión Social the majority of jobs were construction workers (albañil), "general helper", road-related work, and such.
I think that the train should open up more and more to Mexican residences at a more affordable price and charge more for tourists without residency cards . Mexicans, do not make much money and to encourage them to use the train. It Has to be affordable for them.. I might suggest a time schedule of the train being a local transportation, stopping along the way in small communities. Then have nonstop trains from the coast for people willing to pay more and arrive quickly.
I think people are going to overlook this because you still have to take other transportation to get to either the hotel zone or to Civic Center in Cancun. Then a lesser number of people will go to Playa Del Carmen or Tulum. If there was a way to develop a connector from downtown Civic Center and the hotel zone to the train system, that could be just enough to develop critical mass.
I live in Cancún and this proyect is FAR to be perfect. They are destroying a lot of the ecosystems from the cenotes beneath the rails, they aren’t using stainless steel so all of the support is getting rusted and that rust is moving through the underwater system that conects cenotes naturally. It will probably last less than 10 years before it collapses The last thing is corruption, I’ve used the train and I looks like the were cheap on everything. Is basically made for some foreign company to buy it in the future
Get archaeologists to excavate all the sites. This will solve the problem. Trust me. There are tons of eager archaeology students who would help on the project. Former archaeologist here who does marketing analytics.
I like the video, only a couple of pieces of feedback. Before the start of the project, all the different areas were scanned by airplane with laser technology,,resulting in deviation of the original trajectories to avoid damage possible arquelogical zones . Also, they took into consideration minimizing the ecological damages . ( Modernization most of times means some eco problems) . The mexican government, initially on the hands of AMLO, had been seeding & growing hundreds of thousands of trees a year. The bigest project in the world of this kind. The initial amount of the project sure was less than the final amount. That a big percent was because they added new railroads to new construction areas.also goberment built hundreds of houses for people relocated that initially not alll of those were original plan.pandemia in between and several other factors has to be taken in consideration. SEDEMA ( ARMY) and MARINA both are having and superlative jobs in the construction and administration of the budget.
Most divided project in Mexico? If that was the case then why the president party won the elections on those states where the Tren Maya is “doing so much damage” even governors from the other parties supported the project during AMLO’s regime. Also Lopez obrador is the number one president that has declared the most natural protected areas in all history of Mexico, he is from the south and he knows how much others have exploited the region’s resources but never cared about the people now for the first time ever southern Mexican states have had more growth than northern states, and 7-9 million people got out poverty during Obrador’s regime, his party has the majority of both chambers, most of the States governors Mexico City and the presidency, majority of Mexicans know what they’re aiming for, the only ones talking about division happen to be the minorities of conservatives that hold no power.
As a Mexican, I was initially very excited about the idea of the Tren Maya, especially because of its initially low projected cost of $7 billion and the promise that tickets would cost only $5 USD for local transportation, however, after witnessing numerous environmental irregularities, repeated cost overruns, and final ticket prices that in some cases exceed $50 USD (making air travel a more viable option at times), I find myself deeply disappointed. While, in comparison to similar projects around the world, it’s not entirely a bad initiative, the gap between what was promised and what was ultimately delivered is disheartening
Exactly, cancun station is further away from the city center than the airport itself, in playa del carmen is further away in a part were public transport is lacking by itself, I mean... yes, the train by itself it's fast, but just going to the stations it takes longer than just take the bus and defeats the hole propose of the train
@@victordavalos246 The train only covers the areas that don't have any traffic jam anyway. But in Mérida for example, you have to get onto a bus to get into the city center and be stuck the same car traffic again. It would be quite easy to solve this actually - just add some trams and ban cars on the tram lanes. Also, connect the train line to Mérida airport and the amount of people who will use it will increase by a lot quite quickly.
To anyone arguing that Mexico should use that money to solve homelessness/poverty, this project WILL be a mechanism for national prosperity by creating thousands of jobs and bringing more wealth from the Riviera Maya to small businesses in the Yucatán. Donations and NGO’s are short term and mostly unsustainable. These kinds of infrastructure projects, relative to highways and air travel, are extremely beneficial for the environment and the economy.
Ur good at reporting, and mega projects all around the world built by governments always over estimate and under deliver. But, connecting a country needs the first thing connection. Then over time it should flourish. The usa didn't build the interstate system because of the love of there people, they did it for military and we'll it ended up well over time.
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Thanks a lot for watching💛What do you think about the Tren Maya? Is it a good idea to build it?
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Well we could stop the train from being built and save a few trees. Mexico needs more than cartels and cocaine to develop itself and stop exporting the millions of illegals to the US for free money. Does that sound hard? The US is $36 trillion in debt. What will happen to all of us soon if that foolishness doesn't stop.
In Seattle they built a lightrail about 8.7 miles and the cost was about $7 billion and 12 years. So, $30 billion for 950 miles Tren Maya is really good.
Two words: Cheap Labor 🤩
And now it's finished in record time.
In Vancouver they are making a 5 km extension for the train and is costing 3 billion
They don’t have to pay Mexicans workers anywhere near the amount of money that they have to pay American workers.
Also, I believe the true cost until today is closer to 22 billion. The 30 bil figure is from financial times... which is a right wing magazine very much against Lopez Obrador's progressive policies.
the number of trees cut down is most likely lower than what an ever-widening highway would require
En los últimos 6 años se.plantaron millones de árboles en todo el pais no sólo en la peninsula..y se siguen Produciendo Millones de árboles en viveros del gobierno federal❤❤❤❤❤
You don't need widening the roads. I've visited Chichen Itzá from Cancún and although the road wasn't well maintained it's flat terrain and riding on the bus is comfortable. What I noticed though, is that secondary roads were really bad, so there's induced traffic as people don't want to use any other routes where a city car could get damaged. There's also very little attention on public transportation compared to private as rental car agencies and the taxi union in Cancún, an even worse mafia than that in Mexico city, would prevent any effort to have a cheap, reliable alternative like that of Mexico city.
The route between Cancun and chichen itza was built directly next to the main highway. Also the entire peninsula is extremely dense forest. Any infrastructure requires cutting trees
Lol.
@@HabeasData-c2q con datos no comprobables
There have been whole teams of archaeologists, paid for by the Mexican government, sent out to excavate and preserve artifacts ahead of the actual railway construction. At some of the stops, new museums have been constructed to house these artifacts as an even further incentive to entice tourists to use the railroad and visit the sites. In addition, over five-hundred tunnels and overpasses are being built with fencing to funnel wildlife safely though the rail-line. Last, but not least, when one looks at the overhead views, there is a lot of jungle left on either side of the track. 'Tis better than having a freeway's going through there.
lol they absolutely destroyed the ecosystem of the region and looted hundreds of millions of dollars worth of archeological artifacts. plus they built rail lines over caverns and did no geological study before building
I actually keep up with Mesoamerican archeology: This is a very misleading comment. The archeological sites that are getting fully excavated are the exception, most are being damaged or demolished if they lay on the path of the Tren Maya (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
@@RCSVirginia you're absolutely right about that. There's plenty left to be discovered.
Thank God archaeologists don't run the world.
What about the underwater caves? How many of those were destroyed by the project?
The military control the lines. The kill a Jaguar almost every day if they saw them close to the tracks even though is the natural eco system OF the JAGUAR.
Tren Maya is also the biggest arquelogical rescue in mexican history. More than 60,000 sites & 1.5 million objects and 700 human remains are been recovered. There are 9 museums and 29 archeological sites.
😂
There will also be trains for merchandise not just passengers on the Mayan train...and there is no damage!
archelogical rescue? What TH is that? archelogical rescue?
I actually keep up with Mesoamerican archeology: This is a very misleading comment. The archeological sites that are getting fully excavated are the exception, most are being damaged or demolished if they lay on the path of the Tren Maya (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
@@albertoschneider6317 it's absolutely going to be worth it in the long run. Short sighted people don't need to hold back Mexico's advancements over a few lost ceramic bowls.
Talk about crying over spilled milk 🙄
Like Italy or Greece, one probably can not help but hit an archeological find even using a spade. So, the archaeologists fan out in front of the digging, saving what they can and documenting that which will require removal or movement. It's what happens in a lot of places including Egypt for instance.
So, the area can stay undeserved and poor, or a very small amount of history documented but lost. Which do you prefer: A Mayan living quarters or 1,000,000 jobs?
I don't understand why people can't understand this simple common sense concept!
Yes exactly. There are millions upon millions more acres of dead civilizations to be excavated in the Yucatan. This narrow strip of rail line in this massive forest won't even hit 1% of the lost archaeological sites, if that many.
It's absolute foolishness to think every little clay pot or arrowhead needs to stop construction.
Get realistico 🙄
@@keithsj10it's about the enviroment, buddy.
Not only about "little clay pot"
Sele olvidó comentar al hombre blanco, que gracias a estas ferrovías y los trenes los nativos pueden trasladarse a los hospitales, mercados...
Y que eran nativos americanos olvidados por el gobierno y que hasta apenas se les otorgó una inversión de prosperidad.
@@marcoshernandez3964 ¿A poco el tren lo ocupan para transporte del día a día?
Jajajjaa, puto atole con el dedo mi niño jajajjaa.
Ahi le van un puño de frijol con gorgojo!!!
Make a video about destruction of US Vulcan company near Playa del Carmen.
cheap whataboutism
@@rolandoantoniomirandamendo4633
Cheap comment. Why not talk about foreign companies that impact the environment way more if that is an important topic?
@@rolandoantoniomirandamendo4633 Whataboutism?! Try false equivalency. One project aims to improve the lives of the local people, is doing its best to preserve both nature and history, and where it can, is replacing or repairing what it destroys. US based Vulcan Materials is essentially pillaging the area like the corporate pirates that they are. They have no plans to repair what they've destroyed, and all to satisfy no one else but their shareholders. But, because it's a US company, you don't hear corporate media making a stink about the much greater environmental damage of Vulcan, but they talk about Tren Maya like it was Chernobyl.
I was on it. Took it from merida to itzamal. LOVED IT!!!
I will take a train any day over a bus as they are infinitely more comfortable-especially a new train. This project sounds like an excellent idea and over time will probably be a huge win. The government should probably charge tourists a higher price than local residents to use.
There is already a differentiated price for locals, nationals and aliens
Local , nationals , and foreigners have a different price. I live next to the railway and believe me I see every time more and more are using it as a transportation, it’s better than the bus. Got to buy the tickets head of time because they get sold out quickly.
Much better than building a freeway...
We are talking to you, Texas !
I’ll take the freeway instead
@mac3ron1 The freeway is so beautifully designed.
Definitely. Freeway more noise and pollution
Is already built sir. You should make a video of the Environmental destruction that the US company Vulcan did south of playa del carmen,hotel resorts have done a lot of destruction too.
The Mayans too, destroying the environment to build big cities.
That is whataboutizum
Nobody cares
@@garrettgeringer1278😅😅😅 What are you talking about? This land was always a mayan territory.
@Antonio it was natures territory
The thumbnail seems to be a direct copy of a video made by the B1M a couple years ago
Edit: Search up “Mexico jungle railway”, the first video to appear is this one, then if you scroll down you find the B1M video from a couple years ago with the same thumbnail
ita true. Could be stock footage, or from marketing material?
Now they have different thumbnails...at least forme
The only difference is the estimated cost was 10 billion then and today it's 30
you're right. Is MegaBuilds poaching? Getting lazy?
@@hmd6202 Nah. Probably an oversight, google image search, etc. I would give the benefit of the doubt.
Hi what a great video! Very objective and clear. I am from the Yucatan peninsula and at first people were very divided about the train. However, now that the whole route has been inaugurated 100% people who didn't like it before, are giving it a try and it is being a success!
Just as a clarification, the train from Cancun to Chichen Itza does not take 2.5 hours. That was reported when the trains were being tested and the electrification of the track was not completely finished, now that everything is finished and the trains reach their maximum speed (which if I'm not mistaken is around 140-160 km/h) from Cancun to Chichen Itza is done in 1.5 to 2 hours maximum!
I’ve been to Mérida.
I'm from Yucatan. Nobody uses this white elephant of a project. Only sycophants online repeat this ad naseaum as propaganda.
@@snibbersuck it
This train line will be the best investment the Yucatan has ever seen.
@keithsj10 actual guy living here. Is not.
Have been to the Tren Maya and it's at the level of other European rail services I've used. They nailed it with this one 👌
as a Gringo living in Mexico and a history buff .... I think the Mexican government has done a great job at protecting historical areas all over the country . A nation with so many historical sites still needs to make sure that those alive today get as much care and attention . We can not have the past be MORE important than the present. The train is an outstanding addition to Mexico infrastructure !
the Mexican government has done a great job??? OMG!!! In what kind of Mexico do you live in? San Miguel de Allende? Condesa, Roma, Polanco? San Pedro in Monterrey? Puerto Vallarta? or other Gentrificated area?
The train is an outstanding addition to Mexico infrastructure!?!?! Please try to search for alternative MEXICAN sources of information that are not paid and manipulated by the government and I'm sure your opinion will change.
Tourism is one of the worst paid industries, not only in Mexico but around the world. Taking into consideration that Mexico receives in Average 40 million visitors per year, and 38 million of those only stay in Quintana Roo in ALL INCLUSIVE RESORTS this $30B project just puts Mexico's economy in the ER. This money will never, EVER be recovered. They just created a money sucking hole for eternity, wasting resources to keep it rolling and redoing, because as it is brand new it shines and looks somehow cool. Wait 10 years and you will regret ever thinking that this was a good idea.
crazy how a "gringo" living in mexico is oblivious to just how shitty spending billions of dollars on a useless project is for the millions of mexican citizens that are getting screwed over in government education and public healthcare as the new government has refused to fully fund these areas. This new government is a joke that takes advantage of misinformation and ignorance of it's own people to gain power and egotistical obsession with projects such as the tren maya that will be in ruins in the coming years
Well said sir 👍🏿. I live by the railway and it makes me happy seeing more and more people using it everyday.
As somebody who actually keeps up with Mesoamerican archeology and published literature, saying that Mexico does a "great job of protecting historical areas" is a kinda iffy statement. On one hand there is nothing like the INAH say here in the United States, and I think it's great that the Mexican goverment does take the subject seriously to a degree. But the INAH is also massively underfunded and has regular budget cuts, to the point where sites often have to be reburied because there aren't money for full excavations. And corruption means that archeological sites are often damaged or demolished for construction projects, and the Tren maya is no exception here: The vast majority of the sites in the path of the Tren are being damaged or totally demolished (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate.
Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. You said that Archeologists had 1+ year to clear the path, but when there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of monuments, that's not nearly enough time. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
Also, it bugs me that the INAH claims Copyright on it's photos and scans of artifacts and monuments. The Mediateca INAH site does host a lot of photos with CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 licenses, but that still prevents most educational use of the images. They should really just be CC-BY or CC-BY-SA .
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I believe Mexico 🇲🇽 has done a great job with this Tren Maya everything is looking good and see no major problems with the eco system us Mexicans take good care of Mother Nature.
Decent, but not really. There's a lot of money laundering, and it's way behind schedule. But that's typical Mexico though. It's a great project though fundementally
@@michaelmccarthy5632this government is not like the ones before the cuarta, 7 years ago before amlo, the world doesn’t yet, they still think is the same weak as before.
I actually keep up with Mesoamerican archeology, it's damaging the very archeological sites it's meant to provide access to. The archeological sites that are getting fully excavated are the exception, most are being damaged or demolished if they lay on the path of the Tren Maya (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
@@michaelmccarthy5632 There is much context left out of this video why the costs increased and is taking longer. Another biased video that just repeats the same thing western media spews. It's only bad when non white/developing countries do it. US erased all natives and their sites, have built thousands and thousands of miles of roads and highways and no problem there. Also, US gov is the biggest money launder/pyramid scheme on Earth but hey, Typical US
I agree too this a fantastic project....great job mexico
All in favor of the Tren Maya!!!
Para nada
really? you sure are mexican
Absolutely
@@christopheralejandromezapa8934 con la excepción de los clasistas, racistas, traidores a su país y necios para la lógica. Esos gritones están en contra.
September 2034, I rode Tren Maya from Merida, Yucatan, México to Cancun station and then took the transfer bus to CUN.
MUY BUENOS!!! 👍👍
2034? are you from the future?
@@GerryBlue people that support the actual party in power isn't smart people.
Hahaha
LMAo
You could've taken the bus for half the price.
If it was the U.S we would just pave over everything with another damn highway. Better infrastructure, Mexico continues to impress.
It would be nice if you provided more context about the low ridership. Currently there are only about 12 out of the 30+ train that will be operating at maximum capacity. Also about the Mayan ruins possibly being lost due to the construction of the train. It would be also nice noting that the Mexican national Institute of history and anthropology had about 1+ years to clear up the path of the train, there are several videos documenting this during the construction, which is the reason why there are segments of the train line that are not yet done. The artifacts that were found during the construction of the train will be in local museums, some of which have already opened. The train route was changed a few times when Mayan ruins were found, which is why the train experienced several delays.
I actually keep up with Mesoamerican archeology: This is a very misleading comment. The archeological sites that are getting fully excavated are the exception, most are being damaged or demolished if they lay on the path of the Tren Maya (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. You said that Archeologists had 1+ year to clear the path, but when there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of monuments, that's not nearly enough time. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
Go Mexico.
Into a narc0 gang war.
Hola Regis & crew! Great video. I think connecting the Yucatán peninsula is a good project for locals and all of Mexico. This is a new project and we will not see the complete benefits immediately. In the long run this project will satisfy everyone.
Precisely for that is not a great video, it's biased
I recently drove pass many areas where this was being built. It is quite a project!
This is one thing I wish they would have done environmentally. When the trains reach the Jungles, the Tracks would be Elevated on Viaduct. They actually did this at a reserve in Africa. At least building Vuaducts would have minimalized the environmental impact, and protected the Jaguar population
Impossible due to the clay soil on the Yucatan Peninsula, it would be very risky to build bridges for viaducts almost 800 km long
@ oh really?
Even with the current design, the tracks travel over cenotes and caverns that were not accounted for in geological surveys. Every day the project is closer to a collapse as the ground beneath the track was not prepared to support the use of trains in some areas
Just an amazing project, great video
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I took the train to visit family in the region and loved it. It's honestly a lot more efficient to travel than local roads as local roads are underfunded and contain a lot of damage and potholes that slow u down a lot. I would recommend its use as it does connect a beautiful part of Mexico to the rest of the world and allows u to see parts of Mexico that used to be nearly inaccessible. Also the locals are both amazed by it still. I saw a lot of construction workers recording the train as it passed by and gave me a sense of national pride for the locals
You forgot about Tulum International Airport, this year it had more than 1 million visitors
Conveniently he missed that part or real context and figures for the downsize of the project. Chayotero en ingles
Great video and thanks for recommending ground news. I think I'm going to subscribe I need unbiased news.
These videos are fantastic. Very informative, very well done,
I have many family members who live in the southern states of Mexico, and they are very positive about the economic benefits that will come from building the TREN MAYA. they are happy that the train don't run in the middle of their town, but it's away from town. having the train run across the town disrupts daily life. its better having a light rail system like in Campeche that connects Tren Maya and Campeche city town. I live in Chicago and i am very happy now there are daily flights with United to Tulum. we can board the Tren maya and stay in Tulum at Tulum Tren Maya hotel. its a FANTASTIC PROYECT. and just like any mega project of infrastructure there are cons and benefits.
Trains that run to the town/city centers are much more convenient for public transportation, that's why they're built that way in Europe and Asia.
They are doing an awesome job. Tren Maya is a great accomplishment.
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Merry Christmas from and a happy new year from me! Thanks for the content this year!
Bro, I give an ACTUALIZED UPDATE, the projeCt has been fully COMPLETED since 15 december of 2024, you can make the full travel now
I'm a Mexican Railway Engineering student, I can share some interesting facts about this megaproject, Mexico is not only going to build the tren Maya, we are going to build (more accurately, rebuild and improve) a massive nationwide passenger railway network, the tren Maya is basically just the beginning of it all, the idea is to connect efficiently and economically from north to south and all around, Mexico city is going to get like 5 different routes connecting to the most important cities like Guadalajara, Querétaro, Laredo, and a lot more, and the government is really trying to get it done, my own career was tailor-made in 2020 by the government via the National Polytechnic institute to provide the whole project with specifically prepared Professionals, so yeah, Mexico is on the tracks (pun absolutely intended) to get a massive railway network, and it's one of the flagship projects of this new government that just came to power in 2018 and continues with the new president Claudia Scheinbaum, so yeah, trains are cool and Mexico is finally noticing, I'd be happy to answer any questions you have for me!
Thank you for your report.
This rail line and the Atlantic/Pacific rail line is for infrastructure needs into place for manufacturing/assembly plants in order to export to countries within those two oceans. All other activities is secondary and their revenues will be used for further infrastructure support.
The maquila industry is growing exponentially in Yucatán.
Interesting bit of knowledge that I picked up recently about this issue is that this was made without the real consent of the Maya people. Yes the Maya people still exist, they still live on the Yucatán Peninsula unlike most meso American peoples they have successfully fought for their dependence, at least three separate times. They are part of Mexico by choice not by force, and quite frankly if they change their minds about that, that will probably result in a new state of Yucatán. Thus it is important that the military have control over this train system so that it cannot be used against the national government. If things get a little more problematic shall we say.
@@matthewschuchardt684 like, hoping that this comment gets more attention
I don't know what's on the mind of those people who doesn't like this project and then they will complain about the traffic and the economy of the country. Like HELLO!!!!! those country who has the best Train system already solve those two problems they been complaining again and again. Just look at Japan their train system solves what the public needs, your not stuck in the traffic less hassle going back and fort plus it generates Billions from the local commuter and tourist.
Most of them are part of the old corrupted regimen 😂 they hate mexico becomes successful
Most archeologists are critical of the project. I keep up with mesoamerican history and archeology, and most of the sites in the path of the Tren are being damaged or demolished (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. You said that Archeologists had 1+ year to clear the path, but when there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of monuments, that's not nearly enough time. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
Is a costly an stupid project.
You do realize that Japanese trains take you to the destination, not 5 kilometers away like tren Maya.
Not bad but you are missing basic like the ticket prices from the start this was already set, they are 3 types of pricing, locals, nationals and non nationals, the cheaper is more than clear, locals, the pay less than nationals non-locals and waaayy less than non-nationals. And then you have the classic discounts we have, for students and elderly people. Other point is the trees, they will not plant in the future, those trees are already there, as they were working cutting trees new trees were planted non only in site but in other places when they are "needed" around and project was finished as of the 14 of december .
Yeah but that would be a neutral video and this is covert criticism against 4T
In Perú they divide some train cars by foreigners (super expensive, very comfortable) and nationals (super cheap and squeezed in like sardines). It could work to do something like that but less extreme to boost users.
Tren maya will have a discount for locals but both foreigners and locals will travel in the same train
@@M4teo. it did seem like a harsh policy in Peru. There was a pregnant American lady crying because she wasn’t allowed in the cheap car with her Peruvian husband. We also would have been happy to go in the cheap one.
Very informative!
It is not. The train is killing the jungle.
Mexico is setting the example of how to connect cities. The Tren Maya has so many great benefits. Just the fact that due to construction It’s unearthed 100s of Mayan Artifacts.
California has been trying to build a train for years, Mexico is setting the example right.
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Can you take this from Cancun Airport to downtown Cancun/Civic Center? I travel to Cancun every year and didn’t know much about it until this video.
The tren maya station is 10 minutes away from the Airport
No, there's no train to Cancún city center.
@ thank you for letting me know. Seems like that would be extremely important, or are they planning an extension?
one thing you missed is the program "sembrando vida" its basically the largest reforestation program in the world (unless china has one that we are not aware of) so yeah.. the program not only heped with the planting of trees but also with agriculture that kept food inflation low in the last couple of years.. also you did not mentioned (even tho you actually showed a part of it in the video) you did not mention that the project also involved a new airport.. the tulum airport that has its own mayan train station... so tulum has 2 stations... one in the outskirts of the city and one in the airport... an airport that by the way is already getting a lot of people so yes... the mayan train will get more people
I've been on tren maya in September 2024 from campeche and cancun and more cities it was fun lol
I looked at taking the train from Merida to Cancun. The stations are located outside of the cities so I had to factor in the additional travel time there and cost for the longer Uber drive. The tickets are decently expensive and there weren't a lot departure times to choose from. I eventually just took an ADO bus which was direct to Cancun - longer trip but cheaper and simpler (the bus was quite comfy).
I think a train is a good idea eventually, but doesn't seem like the right time. Most locals don't use it and it's not giving the government the return on investment like they expected. Improving the highway system first while carefully and slowly building the train seems to make the most sense.
Yes, improving the last miles connections and increasing the frequency would make a difference.
Gonna be a learning curve for them, it’ll probably be successful.
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11:47 The project was completed on December 20, 2024
You should talk about vulcan materials company affecting the environment in the area !
I swear there are Californians who wish the CAHSR could exploit the same loopholes like Tren Maya to bypass all the red tape and community input
I wish they would do the same but if that ever happened they’d be crying to impeach newsom and government tyranny etc etc
@@TrU_homie without a doubt. Frankly, I'm amazed they've progressed as much as they have with the IOS.
A very good project can wait to be completed so I can go
I think it's an amazing opportunity for the country but it would have to be designed as a commuter rail for locals, as well as for tourists. I'm sure prices could be tiered so locals get affordable rates - but movement around the country by local communities is where the real gain is here. However, the cenote and archaeological site situations present challenges that a fast tracked approach is unsuitable for... It's a mistake to press forward without planning for all of that. It takes patience and a dedication to doing it right though. I hope they can solve these issues because I see amazing potential here that makes me excited for Mexico!
This is gonna be so bad for the indigenous communities who live there. They are all against this project yet the government being anti-indigenous and using salaried military personal to build the project doesn't care for their plight. The new president also, when she was a governor of Mexico City, deployed the police against the Hñähñu (Otomi) people who took control of the National Institute of Indigenous Peoples (INPI) and whose rights kept being violated because she refused to negotiate with them. The stations don't connect to airports and local businesses and you often have to take a taxi from private companies. The train only gets 5% of expected drivers anyway and there are already roads that could be taken instead of destroying so much history
The project also replanted literally millions of trees, last year it was the largest reforestation project in the world with half a billion trees planted, before it was taken over by a Chinese project this year.
Great idea!
One thing that should be touched on more is the fact that the Maya civilization at one point in time had settled the entire Yucatán peninsula meaning that no matter what the Tren Maya is destroying sites which is devastating because it takes away from an already under appreciated and under researched topic (mesoamerica) it’s important for the world to know just how awesome these people were, and that they were comparable to the Roman’s and other great civilizations of history and thus deserve a spot in history right next to other greats
You should hear from the other point of view. This video is only a collection of lies presented to attack the current transformation movement with 78% percent of the population in favor. Only traitors to México follow these biased lies
Unlike the Mayans, Aztecs, etc. the Romans had developed a written language, Latin, used the wheel, and domesticated animals.
Please cover the new saudi metro too it looks it looks just as big if not bigger .
California could learn a thing or two from this.
Drug users and criminals would take it over
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Costly and stupid project.
The benefits outweigh the cons
you just uploaded the video when the whole route has been opened
also the environmental damage is way less coming from a train than from a highway and way more less from american mining company’s and hotel chains that destroy the vegetation and ban mexicans to enter the beaches (all beaches in mexico are public)
Brother by the time I’m making this post.. all the 5 Routes are operable. And this is the first time it reopens occupying the whole Peninsula and hopefully gets a better management then the last one😮💨plus the new Plant at Tonalá is a better boost for Our Country
México has some of the most interesting cultures like mayas and aztecs obviously this is beneficial for the ppl they get better jobs and transportation we mexicans support this and former president lopez obrador, mexico is becoming a super power economically but culturally we're already s super power 👍
I think it’s good, that they are trying to develop that area but it is sad seeing those historical artifacts being destroyed. It would have been better for them to have found a way around it.
Se llaman restos arqueológicos y NO se destruyó nada., al contrario se están restaurando las ciudades mayas.ojala puedas venir a verlo por ti mismo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@HabeasData-c2qingenieros y arqueólogos se han quejado desde el inicio por la destrucción que ha causado. Es real y factual
@Teldaewick_RE los ingenieros pagados por vulcan materials y los otros por greenpeace ..investiga de donde obtienen sus ingresos. Tal vez si a.mi me.pagan bien. Me puedo quejar de que la D__E__A es el cartel más grande del mundo ........
@@HabeasData-c2q I actually keep up with Mesoamerican archeology: This is a very misleading comment. The archeological sites that are getting fully excavated are the exception, most are being damaged or demolished if they lay on the path of the Tren Maya (WashPost's "Destroying Maya treasures to build a tourist train", notes that even back in 2022, there were already 25,000+ Maya monuments destroyed for construction), and only the sites deemed to be the absolute most important are getting things like new museums or the Tren's path altered to accommodate. Most are just getting hasty excavations (since the project was being rushed to end before AMLO left office) to quickly document and retrieve the things they can in a rush and then the Tren is built over the site, preventing future excavations and causing damage. You said that Archeologists had 1+ year to clear the path, but when there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of monuments, that's not nearly enough time. I can't speak to the broader social and economic issues, but most archeologists I've seen comment on the Maya Tren project think it's causing much more harm then it's doing good, including the archeologists actually working on the project to salvage sites.
I remember driving along the toll roads when I was there in 2023 and seeing the train lines being built. The toll roads are expensive and empty also already. I would rather take a train and relax though.
Please do a video or part of a video on hs2 rail project
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I took Tren Maya from Cancun to Chichen Itza, it’s pretty incredible how big of a project it is. The Cancun station is extremely large and comparable to a large modern municipal airport terminal.
It is a smart project. Built to connect touristic sites with tourism. It would´ve been more useful to have built a freeway good for EVERYTHING, tourism, commerce, cars buses trucks. etc. Perhaps in the future, they can widen it to accommodate the freeway for everybody to travel to wherever they want to go, at any time they want or need to go. Good start though..
Jajajajja tipical gringo only thinking in freeways, that train will serve to everything, we dont need cars, buses or trucks bcs ppl & merch would be transported by train.
Overall the project is a good idea even with its potential impacts on the local environment and archeological sites. It's a long-term region/nation shaping project that should be considered a success or fail over a longer timeline than just every quarter. Having said that it clearly needs to run MULTIPLE types of trains on the line to get full usage out of it... I.e. it needs Ouigo style budget trains, luxury trains, freight trains and commuter rail services on it to cater to every type of customer to truly make it a successful project by any measure... Kind of like the UK main lines...
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The Maya Train ought to help do just that 👍
This project is wonderful, I was in favor of this project and believe me I see more and more people using it which is great for the local economy. I live by the railway so I see it everyday pass by :).
This is more on beneficial 😊
Can they build land bridges over the tracks for the wildlife to travel and plant trees on these land bridges?
Misleading video, the project is 100% finished as of the weekend of 12/14/24. Over 100K direct and indirect jobs were created, trains are still been produced to this date (takes a while to produce the many trains that are needed).
Construction was estimated at 23 billion USD, teams
of archeologist from INAH were always ahead of construction researching, cleaning up and moving sites when needed. Viaducts were built in many locations to avoid drilling/building into cenotes.
Sometimes I wonder if you people are just ignorant, have bad sources, or are simply bought to report your lies.
Yes I have seen a lot of videos like this, not telling the truth and misinforming
Yeah, almost zero mention of the environmental benefit that comes from taking buses and trucks off the road.
He even has an ad embedded in the video about a subscription to verify information and it’s sources 😂
Not to mention the reforestation plan "sembrando vida"
Manufacturing Consent machine go brrrr
I was wondering, what happens to the 10,000 jobs in construction when the Tren Maya is fully built?
tricky. on one hand tourists need to ease cancun shore and acess to maya ruins, on the other hand is a massive forest that we ought to preserve... kilinmanajo has its own airport... why not a small airport in chichten itza? it would disturb less forest... also: if you go to cancun, you want to go to cancun... u dont want to go anywhere else... im guessing. how many tourists arriving in cancun stay on the shore? what % goes more cultural? is it worth it 30B? i dont think so... 3 hours bus is easy doing...
Trains are much more environmentally friendly than airplanes and they are also much more efficient when it comes to getting in and out. I would much rather get to chichen itza by train than having to go through all the hassle of going through airport security let alone the high costs of flying. Besides Mexico has one of the worlds largest replantation projects, the government has planted millions of trees to recompense for the trees that were cut down and they will continue doing so in the future, you should listen to Claudia Sheinbaum's speech that she gave to other nations in the G20 summit perhaps you will like her proposal.
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It's not just ancient things being damaged. Just imagine the wildlife that's gonna be harmed.
There is a wildlife crossing
Ancient things being damaged? There has a been a historical amount of archeological findings thanks to this project, as well as many trees being planted.
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The vast majority of jobs that they claim were created are actually temporary jobs. Once construction is completed
Any jobs is better than no jobs, the pass ex presidents before AMLO funnel all the money to their pockets for at least 70 years
To be fair that's most jobs to a large extent. Our society isn't built for the individual, but for the economy. We build far more than we maintain and there will always be people needing work so the machine grinds on. Obviously this is a very vague take but it only gets worse the deeper you look
According to Secretaría del Trabajo y Previsión Social the majority of jobs were construction workers (albañil), "general helper", road-related work, and such.
Luckily Mexico plans to create more railways/passenger trains and other infrastructure projects, so the demand will still be there.
Technicians will be in demand for sure
love the train maya
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I think that the train should open up more and more to Mexican residences at a more affordable price and charge more for tourists without residency cards . Mexicans, do not make much money and to encourage them to use the train. It Has to be affordable for them.. I might suggest a time schedule of the train being a local transportation, stopping along the way in small communities. Then have nonstop trains from the coast for people willing to pay more and arrive quickly.
I think people are going to overlook this because you still have to take other transportation to get to either the hotel zone or to Civic Center in Cancun. Then a lesser number of people will go to Playa Del Carmen or Tulum. If there was a way to develop a connector from downtown Civic Center and the hotel zone to the train system, that could be just enough to develop critical mass.
I live in Cancún and this proyect is FAR to be perfect. They are destroying a lot of the ecosystems from the cenotes beneath the rails, they aren’t using stainless steel so all of the support is getting rusted and that rust is moving through the underwater system that conects cenotes naturally. It will probably last less than 10 years before it collapses
The last thing is corruption, I’ve used the train and I looks like the were cheap on everything. Is basically made for some foreign company to buy it in the future
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Get archaeologists to excavate all the sites. This will solve the problem. Trust me. There are tons of eager archaeology students who would help on the project. Former archaeologist here who does marketing analytics.
I like the video, only a couple of pieces of feedback.
Before the start of the project, all the different areas were scanned by airplane with laser technology,,resulting in deviation of the original trajectories to avoid damage possible arquelogical zones .
Also, they took into consideration minimizing the ecological damages . ( Modernization most of times means some eco problems) .
The mexican government, initially on the hands of AMLO, had been seeding & growing hundreds of thousands of trees a year. The bigest project in the world of this kind.
The initial amount of the project sure was less than the final amount. That a big percent was because they added new railroads to new construction areas.also goberment built hundreds of houses for people relocated that initially not alll of those were original plan.pandemia in between and several other factors has to be taken in consideration.
SEDEMA ( ARMY) and MARINA both are having and superlative jobs in the construction and administration of the budget.
Most divided project in Mexico?
If that was the case then why the president party won the elections on those states where the Tren Maya is “doing so much damage” even governors from the other parties supported the project during AMLO’s regime.
Also Lopez obrador is the number one president that has declared the most natural protected areas in all history of Mexico, he is from the south and he knows how much others have exploited the region’s resources but never cared about the people now for the first time ever southern Mexican states have had more growth than northern states, and 7-9 million people got out poverty during Obrador’s regime, his party has the majority of both chambers, most of the States governors Mexico City and the presidency, majority of Mexicans know what they’re aiming for, the only ones talking about division happen to be the minorities of conservatives that hold no power.
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As a Mexican, I was initially very excited about the idea of the Tren Maya, especially because of its initially low projected cost of $7 billion and the promise that tickets would cost only $5 USD for local transportation, however, after witnessing numerous environmental irregularities, repeated cost overruns, and final ticket prices that in some cases exceed $50 USD (making air travel a more viable option at times), I find myself deeply disappointed. While, in comparison to similar projects around the world, it’s not entirely a bad initiative, the gap between what was promised and what was ultimately delivered is disheartening
Do you think there will be improvement when the restaurant and sleeping cars are added?
love tren maya
The stations are so far outside the city centers, it completely degrades the benefit of rail travel.
Absolutely agree.
Exactly, cancun station is further away from the city center than the airport itself, in playa del carmen is further away in a part were public transport is lacking by itself, I mean... yes, the train by itself it's fast, but just going to the stations it takes longer than just take the bus and defeats the hole propose of the train
@@victordavalos246 The train only covers the areas that don't have any traffic jam anyway. But in Mérida for example, you have to get onto a bus to get into the city center and be stuck the same car traffic again. It would be quite easy to solve this actually - just add some trams and ban cars on the tram lanes. Also, connect the train line to Mérida airport and the amount of people who will use it will increase by a lot quite quickly.
To anyone arguing that Mexico should use that money to solve homelessness/poverty, this project WILL be a mechanism for national prosperity by creating thousands of jobs and bringing more wealth from the Riviera Maya to small businesses in the Yucatán. Donations and NGO’s are short term and mostly unsustainable. These kinds of infrastructure projects, relative to highways and air travel, are extremely beneficial for the environment and the economy.
In mexico we have no homeless problem, that is a western thing, we have afordable social housing for workers
Ur good at reporting, and mega projects all around the world built by governments always over estimate and under deliver. But, connecting a country needs the first thing connection. Then over time it should flourish. The usa didn't build the interstate system because of the love of there people, they did it for military and we'll it ended up well over time.