Atlanta's Parking (Housing) Crisis
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- We're building way too much parking, it's an epidemic. Why is this an issue and what's going on to address it? Details for Beltline parking ordinance meeting here: / 1729273340139823416
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0:00 Intro
0:33 Background
1:21 History and Parking Minimums
1:57 But actually
3:41 The high cost of cheap parking
5:37 The catch-22
6:12 Looking forward
6:50 The future
7:22 Closeout
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Thanks for watching! Like, subscribe, share for the algorithm 👊 See the written article with full citations here (consider subscribing if you like it, it's free!): nathandaven.substack.com/p/atlantas-parking-housing-crisis
Get involved: Beltline parking oridinance moving to NPUs for it's second review. NPU meetings are on either December 7 or 14, 2023 - See x.com/HowEPhil/status/1729273340139823416?s=20 for the most recent details I've seen.
Contact your city council and get involved with the Parking Reform Network in your local area: See www.parkingreform.org to see status in your region.
Additionally, this video by Climate Town is really fantastic if you wanna get into the weeds on parking history: ruclips.net/video/OUNXFHpUhu8/видео.html
You're the best Atlanta based urbanist on youtube bro.
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Atlanta needs to expand public transit. Housing is also important. Visited Atlanta several years ago. It was a pretty nice city.
The obscene amount of parking these developers add in new construction is appalling. As someone who lives in an urban center without a car, I can testify that not everyone needs all this excess car storage. Great video!
Thank you!
Are you able to sublease your mandatory parking spot since you don't use it?
@@danieldaniels7571 I don't pay for the parking spot, it's optional.
Sandy Springs resident here. Since I've found your channel I'm definitely starting to realize things about the city I didn't notice before. Keep on making videos
awesome! that's the goal! Appreciate you watching 👊
In dense cities with good public transit like Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, and NYC car ownership is an expensive headache. I live in Center City Philly and haven't driven a car in 12 years. I walk or take transit everywhere and the amount of money and time I've saved by not owning a car is HUGE! A car-free lifestyle can be wonderful, and I think many Americans would agree if only they could/would experience it.
The amount of work you put into these videos is astounding. Incredible job yet again
Appreciate it dawg!!!!
Thank you for covering this very important subject. Atlanta urbanists must continue to redirect city policies to change that encourage parking over housing, walking and street pedestrian friendly spaces. I think you’re doing a great job on your channel in helping educate and direct discussion about better urbanism.
Appreciate you! Thanks for watching
I guarantee if they expanded the public transit network particularly the passenger rail and MARTA lines, the city of Atlanta businesses would see a massive increase in profits. Nobody really wants to hangout in the city anymore just because there is so much traffic and its a hassle. Especially if there was a connection from Kennesaw and Marietta where the 2nd largest college in the state is.
Once you are aware of it, you cannot unsee it.
The main problem is that the empty parking lots aren’t safe. Parking is super expensive in Atl and there isn’t enough security for all of the car break ins and no gun laws.
Even more reason to have few parking spaces
@@KCH55 Atlanta is a car city. Most people who work in the city need a car to commute. It’s not a city that supports public transportation.
Pretty broad statement and one that I beg to disagree with. There's lots of dead space in the city and those dead spaces are chock-full of cheap all-day parking. Most areas with expensive parking are near to a train station and those trainstations connect directly to subsidized park-n-rides.
That's me speaking as an in-town resident, but I often travel (by train) to adjacent areas like Reynoldstown, Doraville, and Buckhead where I can also see plenty of cheap & easy parking within walking distance of a station
@@MasterChaoko ok but please remember that I said that the empty parking lots aren’t safe. From the scams to the robberies, the “cheap” parking lots are empty for a reason. There isn’t enough safe parking in Atlanta.
@@heysilly1341 Yes, but there is such a thing as too many parking spots, look at malls to give an example, when they were built they've over built parking. Even the heyday of malls they were slow down times where half of the parking wouldn't be there and people forget that when they're like.
I actually think it creates a vicious cycle because when people see an empty parking lot or a near empty parking lot they think it must be, not be a place to shop.
I watched a lot of nostalgia mall channels and I noticed some commonality people weirdly I'm not one of those people cuz I hated crowds growing up and still do, actually liked the business of malls. Malls tend to build parking lots for the holidays or back in their peak era. It's not that they need that much parking on a regular basis. It was just the idea. Well, we'll need it when we need it. Like I said, it might seem strange to say that because we tend to think there's not enough parking, but that's usually because when we show up it's in peak hours or times where we want to go or when it's near holidays. Instead, parking should only be built as you need it on a regular basis, not for the exception.
Hey, good video man! I saw your one on downtown Atlanta and subscribed since then
I was in ATL last year and noticed how much more car-oriented the city is compared to my home city of Toronto. Walking around downtown ATL on Sat afternoon was weirdly quiet compared to the rather busy TOR downtown on a Saturday
I'll be going back to visit in a few weeks and may even make some videos about the experience there
It's a tough sell for a lot of sun-belt cities. You need a car because things are so spread out, things are so spread out because everybody needs a place to put their car. Breaking that cycle in Atlanta takes courage and forward thinking. I would love to see some content that calls out specific Atlanta City Counsel members doing the right and wrong thing.
It's definitely a tough sell, but Atlanta's probably the best sell out of all of them. MARTA is very usable, especially on weekdays if you live or work near a rail station, or a frequent bus. In a future video I'm gonna go over TODs, we really need to focus new development near rail stations. Overall think as traffic gets worse and worse more and more people will start choosing alternatives, and developers will follow, it's just a slow process unfortunately.
Some council members are awesome like Jason Dozier, I believe he spearheaded the ordinance I covered in the video -- but honestly its the NIMBYs that are more counterproductive than the council in a lot of areas. Half of it is education and awareness, I grew up in the burbs here, and it took me a long time after moving to the city to realize that there are other ways to get around, and a lot of the stigma I grew up hearing was pure dogwhistle and misperception. thanks for watching and commenting!
Great video. As someone who lives in Midtown, I appreciate this type of content. Keep it up!
Thanks for watching!!
I just subscribed man. I'm living in Gwinnett County and everywhere in this country we have to drive to. They finally put a bus on Highway 78. But right now hardly anybody who's the Bus
I wonder how feasible it is to covert parking podiums into new housing. I can imagine that demolition would be a headache and taking parking away from tenets would be incredibly unpopular.
Yeah, I doubt its that feasible. Office conversions are incredibly expensive so id imagine this would be worse. The Austin example i think its pretty cool, but why not just make it housing in the first place?
Feeling called out ngl as someone who lives on top of a car parked in a parking podium in Midtown... it's an interestingly vicious cycle where higher rent means people more likely to have a car which means less people using transit and more pressure to build parking in the new buildings. people like me taking space in the only areas of Atlanta where its viable to live car free but also where I end up using my car for a lot of trips anyways (maybe less than half though? havent done the math). increasing rents and pushing out the people who would benefit the most from living here (like...people who cant afford a $2k/mo studio apartment)... if there is anything to be optimistic about though, the parking maximums seem a bit overkill. the garage in my building has a fair bit of empty space, might even have a majority of residents living car free? (and no it isn't full of airbnbs) maybe the market will see that you can cut down on parking podium sizes in Midtown
I wouldnt feel too bad - i also own a car and live next to a MARTA station. It is a viscious cycle, and a slow one to correct as we build new housing and walkable retail centric neighborhoods. We should be building denser housing regardless, but the point if the video is to point out that we could get there quicker if we stopped building so much parking!
Definently the maximums are overkill, i was trying to infer. They should probably be way lower, or the city encourages less stalls / underground with other subsidies. Theres ways to go about it but when i was pretty surprised when i started this script, realizing we actually didnt have parking minimums near stations! Thanks for the comment 👊
Great job, Nathan. I always love your videos. Keep up the good work!
I love your channel keep up the good work!
Hell yeah, brother! Awesome video - very well made!
this channel is literally my roman empire
I appreciate the effort and insight put in your videos. You’ve earned a subscriber in me.
Appreciate ya!
Love your content bro, Atlanta is such a cool city to follow and has so much potential.
I appreciate it! Thanks for commenting 👊
Excellent video! Great graphics, nice and succinct, just a 10/10
Thank you! Appreciate ya watching 👊
great video!
Great content
Thanks for commenting!!
It seems like pre-planned parking structures that service multiple residential structures would be better. Centralize the structure and connect via sky bridges possibly. By sharing spaces, usage could be more efficient.
About here but for Atlanta loving the content
Im a huge fan of Uytae! I really like how he does his data visualization, definitely am taking some inspiration from him as I improve my design hahaha. thanks for watching!!
Man. you know what's fucked?
Even if Atlanta does stat becoming more walkable, those parking lot buildings won't be able to be converted into housing. They're just...there.
I mean if with wild imagination you probably could, if you account for van lifers.
I'm not sure how safe it would be but you could totally convert them into like camper villages.
It's better than a bunch of van lifers, parking on the streets. And least vans can be both a vehicle and live in.
Not only too much parking but expensive as hell. Paid $20 just to park for a concert. Not to mention it clearly said on the kiosk not responsible for destruction of property.
Call it out king!
I am always excited to see when you post. I think you need to have more of a social Justice lense on your content because new urbanism has been commercialized by big corporations in luxury apartments and lifestyle centers. You mentioned banks incentives to only finance luxury apts which is a good start, but if you don’t address social Justice perspectives some people may think that you are indirectly promoting gentrification.
None of it matters if all they’re building is luxury buildings. Who cares what percentage has parking. No one can afford to live there. I’m not worried about the amenities on billionaires row. The problem is always the city counsels not even the banks. They can approve you Luxury mammoth but if our representative did their jobs a repressed public interest this would be a conversation. Banks would have to rethink what the decide to fund if they can’t make returns on these monuments to wealth
..that ruin the environment to take up space and house basically no one.
These luxury housing buildings are tomorrows affordable buildings -- the building will deteriorate and become more affordable in the following decades. Same thing with todays older rental houses and small apartment buildings, theyre cheap now but they were definently market rate at the time of construction. That's why its important to push for more units on a plot -- these buildings gonna stick around awhile and building so much parking only sets us up for failure
I think it is an important distinction to separate parking podiums from surface parking as a problem for a city. An at grade retail floor, parking podium, then as-tall-as-you-can-get-away-with residential block is absolutely ideal. I agree that we have to many parking spots totally, but that issue is minimized when making a 3D city. Atlanta could have twice the parking in podiums if they''re in the middle of the "sandwich". That would barely register to average citizens. That 1/4 surface area could completely disappear and if there was abundant parking within one or two blocks of trip generators then there would be significantly less traffic. We need to remember the 1/3 of cars on the road in a city are just looking for parking.
So what would that do for Atlanta? It would make far more opportunity to diversify an economy and allow for people to walk or bike to work. All trips are now 1/4 shorter. Living a half mile in one sandwich and working in another. Seeing as half of jobs in Atlanta and half of employed people are going to be work-from-home that means a ton more diversity in available 3rd spaces.
Anyhow thanks for teaching me about the Texas Doughnut. I have a lot more to learn.
They're definently different scales of evils -- I would much rather have a city of parking podiums with street retail and housing involved over surface parking lots for sure.
But when you compare somewhere like Midtown with somewhere like Fairlie Poplar district, you can really tell the difference there! thanks for watching!
This is an issue in every single large American city
You want more housing. That means more cars. ATL ain’t exactly walkable. If the parking isn’t built into the edifice you have more people crowded streets with no parking.
Streets are supposed to be people crowded.This is why places like the Beltline are so popular
ok but what if they made it walkable and transit accessible u know u can do that right, or do u just think the first pioneers discovered elevated metro lines and built their cities around them
You dont need to build housing with cars - theres a lot of ppl who dont need them. Plus, building built in parking is half the reason people own the cars in the first place. Theres a reason when people move to a city like NYC they dont bring a car with them, its extremely inconvenient and expensive
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What I'd like to know is what the occupancy percentage is of these midtown apartments vs their parking podiums.
This case study was done in 2016, but it's probably the most specific to what you're interested in:
Pringle, Jeshua D., et al. "Parking Policies for Resurging Cities: An Atlanta Case Study." Advisor(s) Ross, Catherine L., Guensler, Randall L., repository.gatech.edu/entities/publication/e44ea847-0436-421e-bc11-5e78ddcfafc4.
It doesnt really say exactly, but it does analyze off street parking in a lot of areas of the city. Page 48 is midtown
All the other sources are linked on my substack as well: nathandaven.substack.com/p/atlantas-parking-housing-crisis
I wouldn’t say parking incentivizes people to drive so much as it forces people to drive.
One sad thing I forgot to include is that when you live in these buildings its often easier to get to your car than it is to get onto the street! Especially in podiums and wrapped decks, people will choose the easiest thing. thanks for watching!
@@nathandavenGood point. We’ve made walking ridiculously difficult with parking and odd landscape choices and lack of adequate sidewalks.
6:02 whattt so luxury apartments tend to have more parking in order to assure to banks that they can finance it?!?!?! bruhhhh
another banger…cities skylines stream when? :D
First fortnite.. now cities skylines..
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Nice job
They’ve taken away the soul of Atl
Cool intro typography
Honestly just start having people pay for parking passes or a tax on non commercial cars and trucks
Because corporations are so benevolent as to reduce prices because they don't have to pave so much parking lot, lol.
Every parking space represents one more car in traffic.
thanks for watching!!
@@nathandaven I'd love to collaborate sometime. I'm an urbanist here in Midtown and would love to do a story on the lack of enforcement of bicycle lanes and the need for a more connected network.
Can you do fortnite content next
Don't tempt me
Well MARTA is worthless so what ya gonna do
Anyone who says this has never used it day to day -- its a very usable system especially if you choose to live / work ITP on a rail line. Obviously marta's gonna suck for someone that lives OTP and is used to driving everywhere. The trains are extremely frequent in the inner city, the main weakness is most bus routes arent very frequent, so really depends on your situation