Clothing: Womens Clothing | Californio Traditions 0038

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
  • Welcome to Californio Traditions, located in the historic mission town of San Juan Bautista, California. Join John, Joe and friends as we explore the culture of early Alta California.
    Today John describes early California clothing the Californians would have used from the early 1800's through to later 1800's and afterwards, at least for fandangos and fiestas. During the hide and tallow trade people saw the first foreign influence on clothing.

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  • @jackkrag
    @jackkrag 11 месяцев назад +1

    morning all ! was fun to see the process, much thanks to your darling wife. the love between you chases the clouds away...

  • @witsonsmom729
    @witsonsmom729 11 месяцев назад

    The clothing is beautiful, I enjoyed your video.

  • @rottengal
    @rottengal 11 месяцев назад +1

    thank you for this video, it may not be 100% accurate but the effort is really appreciated since theres a lack of videos and information focusing on the clothing of californio women, when i found your channel i was very intrigued by the clothing of the lady who appeared on your videos (i assume she is your wife), her skirts are gorgeous!

    • @california_traditions
      @california_traditions  7 месяцев назад +1

      You're welcome, thank you fornwatching and for your comment. If you would like to discuss what is not accurate, we are open to discussing. A talented woman made those skirts.

    • @johngrafton-yw2ko
      @johngrafton-yw2ko 7 месяцев назад +1

      Most welcome. We are probably not the best experts on period clothing, but we felt that getting something out on early California clothing would be a good thing. Olga is indeed my "Better Half"!

    • @rottengal
      @rottengal 5 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@california_traditionssorry for the late answer, i was basing my opinion on what i’ve read in websites, blogs, books, museums and facebook groups
      in my case i’d represent a californio look with a simple gown (the design would depend on the decade i choose to represent), a neckerchief or a mantón de manila pinned around the shoulders, and a camorra (black silk headscarf) or a tápalo wrapped around the head to make the “californio” look more obvious
      your interpretation is totally valid though! i think it suits Miss Olga a lot if we have in mind that older women tended to be more traditional in the way they dressed in comparison to younger women who were more influenced by the latest fashions

  • @johngrafton-yw2ko
    @johngrafton-yw2ko 7 месяцев назад

    Hope that I can respond to you David? Anyway, thanks for checking out our videos and commenting! Seems like we agree that women did indeed wear hats. Haven't come across anything though indicating that women were restricted to wearing hats ONLY when riding, so my best guess is that they wore them whenever they wanted to. Also, we seem to agree that women wore jackets, but how often may be a matter of conjecture (maybe whenever they got cold?). In my ignorance I wouldn't be able to see a bodice-like thing with long sleeves as being anything different than a jacket, or substantially different from the short, tight-fitting jackets that the men seam to have been wearing at the time. In our case, Olga absconded with my green jacket because her rebozos weren't enough to keep her
    happily warm. I suspect that the early Californio ladies weren't above engaging in such behavior as well.

  • @alejandrosanchez6683
    @alejandrosanchez6683 11 месяцев назад

    When you mentioned the rebozo it reminded me about a song called : rebozo de Santa María.
    There is a place in Mexico famously know for making the finest rebozos, where people would and still go buy rebozos so fine that it would go through a ring 💍
    Las Adelitas during the Mexican revolución about 100 years ago, wore rebozos and there are plenty of pictures. Today, las escaramuzas charras still wear their attire including rebozos with laborious and gorgeous knots.

    • @california_traditions
      @california_traditions  7 месяцев назад

      We will look up the song, thanks for the suggestion. And thank you for adding info about the culture surrounding rebozos.

    • @johngrafton-yw2ko
      @johngrafton-yw2ko 7 месяцев назад

      Your comments are much appreciated!

  • @jaoldmill
    @jaoldmill 6 месяцев назад

    What evidence do you have for drawstrings on the skirt and petticoat? The extant ones I have seen so far are cut with a front and back waistband, slit on the sides with string ties on each side like late 18thc skirts.

    • @california_traditions
      @california_traditions  6 месяцев назад

      The best evidence we have is based on the knowledge of a local woman named Shirley Jolif. She is our best local authority.

  • @davidrickman690
    @davidrickman690 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm afraid I can't agree with a number of your conclusions, especially about hats and jackets, neither of which are supported by period evidence.

    • @california_traditions
      @california_traditions  7 месяцев назад

      We would be happy to discuss the matter here David.

    • @davidrickman690
      @davidrickman690 7 месяцев назад

      That's fine. Do you have any evidence for Californio women wearing hats except when riding? Also, women's jackets, when worn (and few women did) were more like period bodices rather than men's jackets. @@california_traditions