@@Syedzainulabidin7019 that's why I said chain of events. If combo hadn't died, he would have no reason to start using heavily and getting Jane back into the mix.
@@Syedzainulabidin7019 Combo's death got Jesse to start heavily using, when he was avoiding it because of Jane's recovery. This influenced Jane falling off the wagon and you know the rest
What’s crazy is that Aaron Paul and Bryan Cranston are some of the best friends around. All because of this show. Paul considers Cranston as a mentor. Either way, Aaron absolutely KILLED this role.
And they were thinking about killing off Jesse on season 1. As much as I don't like the character much the show wouldn't have been the same without him, Aaron did a terrific job.
The title of this video does not lie. Seeing Jesse be traumatised for many episodes and being depressed from tragedy shows how tragic of a character he is. One scene that makes me think of Jesse being a tragic character is that one scene where he is spinning on that carousel at night while staring into the sky.
Walter didn't really taunt Jesse. Walter felt betrayed by Jesse and lashed out at him and tried to hurt him in the worst way possible by confessing about Jane.
Walter is an typical narcissist, always when he felt even a little bit betrayed (instead of being happy that Jesse has a girlfriend etc) he always started to be really controlling and cut the people out of Jesse's life. Walter wanted to control Jesse and own him.
@@uncharismaticpersoneveryall love Jesse cause that is not what happened in the show. Jane used Jesse to blackmail Walt for Jesse’s money. Does that sound like he had a GF that was for him or looking out for her own self interest? Considering she wanted to leave because her dad found out she was using again and was going to send her to rehab. Despite Jesse not being the one to drop off the product to get that money he felt entitled to 100% of the half he agreed to. Couldn’t stand his thought process nor this fandom that yall have for him.
@@jstun2318 I agreee that sometimes Walter's reactions and actions was sometimes justifiable but letting Jane die a horrible way was really bad thing to do, yes Jane blackmailed him but she did it because she wanted to be with Jesse but it was not realistic wish because Jesse promised to work with Walter until to the end, but still what Walter made Jesse go trough was really traumatic and Jesse wanted to stop multiple times but Walter didnt let him until they went too far just because of Walters greedyness for money and power.
@@uncharismaticpersonever how did you read my response and come back with “poor Jesse has no choice”? Did you even watch the show or were you getting an orgasm from Jesse? Cause him being with Jane was his way out and even after he got out of rehab “evil” ol Walt asked him to leave the game with his half of the money. Walt was saying he was second guessing cooking. Or how about the totally someone else’s plan of him stealing meth from Gus’ lab and selling it at the AA meeting? When did he ever have to pay for his wrong doings? You guys are not good people just because you feel sorry for Jesse and hate Walt and that’s the way A lot seem to view this show. You should view everything under the scope of these are people making decisions for themselves and people they care about, just like any of us but they happen to be in a criminal underworld. Yes you manipulate and kill people to keep yourself viable if not you get killed. Perfect example of dog eat dog world and the fandom takes it as morality hour.
i agree a lot. jesse is a absolutely tragic character, by the time breaking bad ended, he was broken. but he still had redemption. but still, all have the trauma he’s endured is heartbreaking. he genuinely tries to be a good person but walter ruins it. and by the end of the season, hes free from walter. and can live a happy life.
Jesse's worst mistake was letting Walt enter in his life and never leaving his side until it was too late. Walt cared about Jesse, the show puts emphasis on that, but not because he liked him, but because Jesse was his favorite puppet. The most useful chess piece. If you analyze the show, Walt never does anything good for Jesse if there's not at least some ulterior motive behind it or some way he could manipulate him even further. Even at his best, Walt always used Jesse and he is the main catalyst for Jesse's life going downhill.
Your analysis of Walt and Jesse's relationship is a bit simplistic. Walter genuinely does care for Jesse, not just as someone to control, but as a son. However, he also sees Jesse as a past version of himself, and he manipulates and uses Jesse, mostly as a twisted belief that he's doing the best for Jesse, something that Walt probably does genuinely believe. I don't think Walter only cares about Jesse as a tool, but that he used Jesse as a tool because that's who Walter is. He's a paradox. He loves people but constantly hurts them. He's both selfish and selfless. A monster and a human.
If not for walter met him again for cook, jesse would've been shot dead in some alley being friends with people like emilio couple of months later. If not for walter jane wouldve killed jesse, she just wanna escape her dad and want jesse's money. If not for walter jesse wouldv No denying walter using jesse all along but he cared for jesse, walt's life wouldve been smooth if he just let jesse die after season 3.
I'm not arguing that Jesse deserved the amount of suffering he got. But I think too many people overlook how bad some of Jesse's actions really were. He definitely has more good traits to him that make him deserve some redemption, but he was worse than just "some good person who fell into the life of crime". 1. He understood what drugs did to people, he hates to see kids involved in any of this. Then why the hell does he pick rehab centers as his meth market in seasons 3 and 4? Not to mention this was all after he was recovering himself. Skinny Pete and Badger are uncomfortable with how morally unethical this is(to sell drugs to people who are TRYING TO CHANGE LIKE HOW WE WANT TO SEE JESSE CHANGE), he was like "stop being bitches and just do it" This is how he met Andrea, he was just gonna try to push a meth sell on her until he saw she is raising a boy. But as for the rest of the rehab group? They're still nothing but potential customers to him, he still wants his friends to push the sells. He probably did feel bad about this, but he still burned bridges in his final meet. He wasn't apologizing to anyone, he confessed his intentions as a way to try to win an argument, he thought the "self acceptance" teachings was a bunch of B.S, and that was the point he was trying to prove during his confession. To recap, he didn't apologize, he basically disappeared for a long time, showed up one last time to say "your teachings are crap, you were all worthless customers to me". 2. Before all this rehab stuff, he also pushed meth onto a gas station cashier who was clear that she was uncomfortable with meth. These 2 things show that while he clearly understands the harm of drugs from what he's witnessed, and first hand experience, once someone is an adult, he could not care less about what harm comes their way(unless he respects & knows the person, or learns they have a kid). He feels bad about the things he does, but it's more like Bojack Horseman's cycle of feeling bad, and repeating bad actions(which Aaron Paul's character Todd called him out on in season 3 of the show) You mentioned it yourself he was gonna burn Walter's house in the last season, does Walt deserve pain and suffering, the loss of his house or other properties belonging to him? Yes absolutely, but what about Skyler, Flynn and Holly?? He would have harmed them "just as a move" and "ends justify the means" kind of thing, which is exactly why he is out for blood with Walter, Walt did that to Brock, and Jesse was about to do the same to his family which is way more innocent than him. You could say he wasn't thinking clearly because he was emotionally broken, but we don't accept that for Walter with all his insecurities.
@@Chico50445 this is the problem I have with these fans of the show. I’m a newer fan and I’m shocked no one picked up on how selfish everything Jesse did was. I mean he didn’t even care about his friends. He wanted them to spiral just because he was. I loved the house party but he has his friends held up in a meth house partying everyday and barely eating. He was a POS.
@@drewmcwhortor4804 I mean, he suffered the most, he got tortured, enslaved, insulted, numerous crimes on the conscience, addicted to drugs, his family is ashamed of him (for good reasons but still)
@@drewmcwhortor4804 ik this reply was from 5 months ago but thjrhjrhrhrhr Half of them you mentioned don't even make sense as a contender for the most tragic character. I mean some of them like Marie or Hank have also suffered from Walter's manipulation, but like, we know Jesse's suffered the most from it. And has a fair amount of emotional and physiological abuse from Walter (which, I'm surprised out of all the characters you listed, you didn't also list Skyler because she and him have gone thru it the most with Walter) But like Andrea and Brock? I get like first off Andreas death was DEFINITELY tragic but she's not nearly as an important / fleshed out character, we're not following an arc or watching her highs and lows as she develops, so there's not much of a connection there with the audience, I mean one of the only reasons why her death is gut wrenching is BECAUSE of her relation to Jesse. (His reaction too ofc) But like if she was a random character who didn't mean anything to any other character then obviously we wouldn't bat an eye. You could honestly argue that her only purpose as a character was to serve as more trauma for Jesse if she was intended to be killed that entire time lol. Also Jesse's the only one who has been enslaved and tortured 😭 it's so much more impactful and therefore easier to claim he is the most tragic character because we see him go from a kind of silly, even unlikable at first or annoying character, to finding out he may have a softer side, to believing he is the bad guy and deserves whatever he gets bc of his guilt, to becoming the sort of 'heart' of the series, or at the very least representing the average person minus the addiction, to well yaknow a broken guy. Loosing his silliness and there's definitely better words I could use for this but lol Not tryna say he's like a saint or something lmao because hes definitely not, but like IMO spending so much time with a character plays a heavy part in how we perceive them, it's easier to be attached with characters and wanna root for them if we see all they go through, and like in Jesse's case constantly shown to feel regret and remorse. Unlike a one of character like mini spooge. Also why so many people somehow still root for walt haha. Okay this comment is long enough lol I hope u get what I mean
Walt bailed him out several times. And every time Jesse would get himself into more crap. Jesse had an opportunity to get into that minivan and start a new life and he didn’t. Then he got captured and enslaved. And if it weren’t for Walt rescuing him and ultimately dying to rescue him, he would still be in that cage cooking meth.
Why does everyone forget how many times Walt saved Jesse? Jesse saved Walt once with the Gale situation, but Walt was only in that position because he saved Jesse from Gus’ drug dealers. Mostly everything was Jesse’s fault until after Gus was dead.
Lol u r among the very few people who actually gets it. For some reason everyone loves hating on walt and they all have sympathy for jesse…can never understand why
Jesse was a lost soul addicted to drugs with a compassionate side. We don’t feel bad for Walt because he’s an arrogant sociopath who always has to get his way. Clearly they’re completely different in almost every way
The point of my previous comment is just that I feel like I always hear people say Jesse got into the life of drugs and murdered one person under Walt's orders, but other than that he was morally sound, but Jesse had more moral issues than that. Also his first big tragedy for him was when his parents kicked him out of his house because of the meth lab in the basement. While you can say it was his fault for allowing it to happen and forgetting the real estate appointment, it can still be blamed on Walt for being the one to insist on cooking meth while the RV is not working. He was also refusing to give him his money, or even listen to him while he desperately needed some sort of help while going homeless.
it’s such bullshit that everyone looks at Jesse like such a delicate little innocent flower throughout the series, when meanwhile hes the one ‘CAPT COOK’ that the DEA was looking for months earlier because his Meth was so famous for having the chilli powder in it.. Jesse was the original Heisenberg.. just small time.. people remember what they choose to remember Life is 1000000% about making YOUR OWN choices, that’s why he calls & tells his parents in el calmino “I made my own choices, you guys did you best with me.” Walt tells Gus at one point in the Lab “I’ve made a series of very bad choices .. and I cannot make another one”. Simple as that. Jesse is completely accountable for his actions by the end of the universe of EL Camino and that’s why he’s so sad, he knows he’s responsible. He got Jane addicted to drugs again, gets his other girlfriend murdered..he basically causes a plane crash through butterfly affect..he sells meth to a whole city for his own benefit, he kills kids, he kills Gale, he hates himself. But he keeps doing it because at the end of the day he really doesn’t care about himself anymore. He doesn’t have anyone left. At least Walt is CONSISTENT about what he is. He knows what his goal is and what he needs to get there, same as Gus. If someone gets hurt dammit it was for my family. Jesse has no reason for doing these things .. he has no family to support.. no children.. no wife.. .. he could’ve easily said this is too much for me man, nah he got greedy and enjoyed the ride. Just look what he did with the extra money Walt gave him for the RV, he took it and went to a strip club. Jesse is a little scumbag
@@lacavalerieqc3714 no in an episode jane will tell jesse to sleep sideways after drugs, when walt tried to wake jesse he mistakenly made jane lie flat. So she died and Walt saved Jesse from jane.
You have to watch El Camino. It’s not a masterpiece like Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul but it does give Jesse’s character closure. It’s worth the watch.
After watching Better Call saul, I'd pick Howard, Nacho and Mike on par with Jesse. I would even say Howard and Nacho had it worst. Since they never got the second chance Jesse had.
@@ebenezer-scroogeIt grinds my gear what happened to Mike even more now. He's not doing it for some selfish reason Walt had. He's the one doing it for his family. But nope. They took the money he saved for Kaylee. Kaylee's last memories of Mike was him abandoning her.
Nacho was in the game. That instantly takes him out of the running in my eyes. Howard, absolutely. Howard, Drew Sharp, Brock, Mini Spooge, Walt Jr, Holly, Andrea, Thomas (too young to know better), Hank, Marie.
why does everyone keep forgetting about combo's death. he was a close friend of jesse, and he only died because of walts demand to expand territory. THAT was the first real tragedy, and is the reason why him and jane ended up back on drugs to begin with. everything else in the show is a chain reaction from that, walts first act on greed rather than necessity.
Bro literally defending jesse to a whole lvl jesse and Jane would have take no matter what happens Combo yes walt fault but jesse caused troubles more than that after and before combo murder like his greedy when he didn't like the one million and half in a 3 months and other things
@ Jane had already started overdosing, you mean to tell me you don’t think it would of happened again? Plus why is Walter expected to save a stranger, if someone’s having a fit outside and someone doesn’t want to give cpr that person isn’t a bad person for not wanting to give cpr it’s their choice
I disagree with the that the parents are "just innocent" his parents were kinda wierd and they treated Jesse like he is "shittier" person than his little brother just because Jesse is an addict. I dont mean that his parents has no right to be mad at some things Jesse has probably done because his addiction but Jesse needed unconditional love and not the kinda type of parenting that you put your kids on score list that "who is the better one and making me proud" type of way. Ofcourse Jesse was an adult when his little brother was just an little kid but I feel like Jesses parents birthed a another boy just because they wanted to kinda "start over" and have kid that they gonna put on lot of pressure like winning lot of medals, being good at school etc, Jesse's parents probably felt that they have failed on the way have raised Jesse, but instead of they taking the resbonbility of that- they just started to treat Jesse a really harsh way and cutted completly him out them life. This is why Jesse probably felt really bad guilt and has grown up the way that he takes all the blame and guilt of other peoples doings and feels always like he has "made them act that way" and thats why Walter was so good at manipulating Jesse, Jesse was a perfect victim for Walter. Jesse was really insecure, sensitive, emotional, hard to focus on things and impulsive +has really selfharming behaviour that is the drug use. Im not a professional but I feel like he has some kinda type of undiagnozed BPD and propably ADHD that has caused the school learning problems, and ofcourse later in life after Walter he has PTSD
Great point too. I feel like they were similar to Chuck McGill in Better Call Saul, a family member who has every right to be upset or disappointed with the actions of their loved one, but they completely fail to deliver constructive criticism, instead they only give destructive criticism, judging and defining them based on their mistakes, showing little to no patience or faith that they will change overtime. If anyone doesn't believe Jesse's parents were too harsh, let's just rewind to season 2 episodes 3 and 4, where his parents throw him out into the streets. Yeah they found a meth lab in their basement good reason to be pissed, but they could have handled punishment in other ways, like raising his rent, making him get rid of his meth lap equipment in front of them. Homelessness for an addict is almost a guaranteed way to stay addicted, and to continue being an outcast to society.
I'm disappointed Jesse didnt rip into Walter after he is saved from the Nazis. I wish he told Walter exactly what he thought then left. It wouldve been a gut punch to Walter, and give Jesse some closure before leaving Walter to die
To me, what he said to Walter in the finale was all he needed to say. Pointing the gun at him is one message. But when he got Walt to admit he wanted to die, he denied Walt an easy way out. That is another message and in my opinion a deeper one.
I understand why you feel that way but I feel like he said it all already before the final episode. In bits and pieces, he got his catharsis. The most impactful one to me being their talk out in the desert with Saul where he tells Walter "stop working me". Acknowledging Walt has been selfishly manipulating him all along. And he gets to say "or you'll kill me, just like you killed Mike." And Walt doesn't argue. True, Walt doesn't apologize and his hugging Jesse silently is both condescending and a further manipulation, but I truly feel like Jesse got it all off his chest already so nothing more needed to be said. Further punctuated by the look that passes between the two of them as Jack is mockingly calling Jesse his "partner, equal partner, 50/50 partner".... their dynamic is the brutal core of his and Walter's dynamic with all the niceties (and emotional manipulation, and Walt playing on Jesse's daddy issues) stripped away. (Never forget that Walt blackmailed Jesse on threat of turning him in to the police to get Jesse to partner with him in the first place. He literally never had a choice.)
@@jamesbyrne9312 but not at that scale obviously the worse thing that could have have happened to him would be getting arrested Walt made the decision to cook grandly and selling to krazy 8 Going after even bigger distributor "tuco" He made the decision to take distribution in his own hand and expand That lead to kombo's death
While Jesse isn't a good person (most of the adult characters in the show are bad people to certain degrees), he's one of the few characters with a conscience, who doesn't want to resort to killing people for his own gains. After being forced to kill, he really struggles with guilt. This is especially the case when children are killed or injured. Perhaps he was abused as a child and he empathises with children who are made to suffer. Unfortunately he's in too deep with the wrong people.
I lost respect for Jesse character when he started working with the DEA, if you go into this life you should know the rules, no police NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, he wasn’t built for this life
Well, I'd say that he's not as much of a victim as you're painting him to be. After Krazy 8 was killed by Walt was the moment when he could have just ended all the sh*t but he didn't. I mean, even if he was morally fine with selling m*th, an actual casualty could have been the line that he wouldn't cross again, but he stayed, continued playing with matches, got burned. I mean, there's more to the story, but there's that too.
Yes I would agree that Jesse was tragic to a point. He was blackmailed into working with Walt to begin with. People forget this. But he could have left him
Jane was toxic to Jessie though. Jessie was falling deeper and deeper into drugs. That could have been Jessie OD-ing at any time. And to be fair to Walt, yes, he could have saved Jane. But what if Walt had NOT been in the room at that time? Walt still destroyed Jessie.
Walt actually accidental knocked her over while trying to wake Jesse and that's why she choke to death, so it is his fault. Even if that happened by accident he could have saved her, and if he hadn't been there that night she would've survived. Yeah, someone could argue that it may have ended all the same if they kept on but technically it was Walts fault (other than the drug consumption, that was on her)
If you have thoughts or feelings you want to express, the video is worth making. That's all that matters. And yeah i happen to agree with you here. "i liked Jesse until he became a RAT!" Lol gotta love where people draw their lines
Can we take a second to agknowlege how terrible jesse's parrents are. Recap. So the show never flat out states how jesse got addicted but we are given indicators. Jesse first knew emillio since elementry school and his parrents put high expectatuons on his younger brother so we can infer jesse might of been introduced to drugs as a result of this. Now lets assune for the sake or arguement these arent the causes and agknowlwge why he lives with his aunt well jesse's parrents wanted to protect jesse's younger brother which is a fair reason exept they both are addicted thats right jesse in the episode with his parrents actually took the fall for his brother and both of them are addicts. Now lets give them the benefit of the doubt. Well guess whose house jesse lived in a cancer patient who we later found out is losing her mind. How did they expect a teenager to do well in school if he also is responsible for another persons well being. Plus why didbt they take him to rehab and issolate him from his addictions. They didnt seperate him from emmilio. Like in heinsight is it shocking that when jesse is freinds with people who are lets be honest druggies and they expect him to take care of his dying aunt and he was a jr. Like even if walt didnt ruin his life even more.
Technically Jesse was blackmailed by Walt into helping him cook meth; otherwise he would've never done it. I know it's easy to overlook sometimes but Jesse never chose to be Walt's meth cook partner, which makes his fate even more tragic.
@ sounds like you didn’t then. The Pilot episode had Walt invite Jesse to cook with him, but he also said that he’d turn him into the police if he didn’t accept; aka blackmail. His decision wasn’t initially of his own free will, he only got hooked when he found out how Walt was able to cook such incredible quality meth, and then later had many opportunities to get out.
Let's not forget he was a drug dealer to begin with
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"Jesse Pinkman Is Breaking Bad's Most Tragic Character" NO he is NOT! 🤣😂He didn't deserve what happened to him but he put himself squarely in the middle of it. Hank "Is "Breaking Bad's Most Tragic Character" but because he was written to unlikeable...
You said shitty childhood but before said on record his parents were good parents. And im not judging or anything im just confused im sorry but your explanation was awesome other than that misunderstanding (Edit:) Finished the video sorry you explained well to me sober me is in charge from the night😂
Jesse was a victim until he turned into a RAT! Everything that happened to him after he ratted Walt out was deserved. No matter what happens you NEVER turn into a RAT! I felt compassion towards Jesse until he turned states evidence.
You're an idiot fed by the notion of "don't snitch". Jesse had finally had enough of being manipulated and lashed out in the best way he could for the best chance of turning his life out from the shit be had.
How is being a rat worse than being forced to murder someone, watching his ex-girlfriend get murdered in front of him, finding out that his father figure poisoned his girlfriend's kid, being brutally assaulted to near death because of said father figure, and more. It's absolutely insane that people value Jesse turning on Walter as somehow worse than all of the horrible stuff that Walter's done on him
@@moss-eating-oddity3612 they’re both criminals. No one forced either of them to commit crimes. Once you’re in you’re in. What’s the point of snitching to the feds, cops, dea, etc. when you’re in a situation because of your sloppiness?
@@moss-eating-oddity3612 the child was fine you bot. He used the kid to get Jesse back on side. Cool, it’s fucked up, whatever. Why not just go after Walt or his family? Why not burn his money? Why would Jesse work with Hank, after what Hank did to him? Makes no sense. lol shows me what kinda brain you got. Bozo
@@moss-eating-oddity3612so Jesse poisoned the mothers of countless children and problem their children with meth. This is a crime show not a soap opera e don’t have I like characters cause they cared about kids. Walt cared about his family but you don’t think that means he’s honorable.
combo's death was the first tragedy for jesse. The disastrous chain of events all come from his friend's death.
the frist tragic for him was when his aunt died because of cancer
@@HP_Lobbyhoe and losing his house and family connection
What about Jane ?
@@Syedzainulabidin7019 that's why I said chain of events. If combo hadn't died, he would have no reason to start using heavily and getting Jane back into the mix.
@@Syedzainulabidin7019 Combo's death got Jesse to start heavily using, when he was avoiding it because of Jane's recovery. This influenced Jane falling off the wagon and you know the rest
What’s crazy is that Aaron Paul and Bryan Cranston are some of the best friends around. All because of this show. Paul considers Cranston as a mentor. Either way, Aaron absolutely KILLED this role.
And they were thinking about killing off Jesse on season 1. As much as I don't like the character much the show wouldn't have been the same without him, Aaron did a terrific job.
The title of this video does not lie. Seeing Jesse be traumatised for many episodes and being depressed from tragedy shows how tragic of a character he is.
One scene that makes me think of Jesse being a tragic character is that one scene where he is spinning on that carousel at night while staring into the sky.
Absolutely
"He just wanted to make money with his old chemistry teacher." That line being played over a highlight reel of tragic events hits hard.
Walter didn't really taunt Jesse. Walter felt betrayed by Jesse and lashed out at him and tried to hurt him in the worst way possible by confessing about Jane.
Walter is an typical narcissist, always when he felt even a little bit betrayed (instead of being happy that Jesse has a girlfriend etc) he always started to be really controlling and cut the people out of Jesse's life. Walter wanted to control Jesse and own him.
exactly. he had no reason to just say that in that especific moment
@@uncharismaticpersoneveryall love Jesse cause that is not what happened in the show. Jane used Jesse to blackmail Walt for Jesse’s money. Does that sound like he had a GF that was for him or looking out for her own self interest? Considering she wanted to leave because her dad found out she was using again and was going to send her to rehab. Despite Jesse not being the one to drop off the product to get that money he felt entitled to 100% of the half he agreed to. Couldn’t stand his thought process nor this fandom that yall have for him.
@@jstun2318 I agreee that sometimes Walter's reactions and actions was sometimes justifiable but letting Jane die a horrible way was really bad thing to do, yes Jane blackmailed him but she did it because she wanted to be with Jesse but it was not realistic wish because Jesse promised to work with Walter until to the end, but still what Walter made Jesse go trough was really traumatic and Jesse wanted to stop multiple times but Walter didnt let him until they went too far just because of Walters greedyness for money and power.
@@uncharismaticpersonever how did you read my response and come back with “poor Jesse has no choice”? Did you even watch the show or were you getting an orgasm from Jesse? Cause him being with Jane was his way out and even after he got out of rehab “evil” ol Walt asked him to leave the game with his half of the money. Walt was saying he was second guessing cooking. Or how about the totally someone else’s plan of him stealing meth from Gus’ lab and selling it at the AA meeting? When did he ever have to pay for his wrong doings? You guys are not good people just because you feel sorry for Jesse and hate Walt and that’s the way A lot seem to view this show. You should view everything under the scope of these are people making decisions for themselves and people they care about, just like any of us but they happen to be in a criminal underworld. Yes you manipulate and kill people to keep yourself viable if not you get killed. Perfect example of dog eat dog world and the fandom takes it as morality hour.
i agree a lot. jesse is a absolutely tragic character, by the time breaking bad ended, he was broken. but he still had redemption. but still, all have the trauma he’s endured is heartbreaking. he genuinely tries to be a good person but walter ruins it. and by the end of the season, hes free from walter. and can live a happy life.
an actually decent video essay of Breaking Bad wow great job!
Thank you! But i dont get it do you not enjoy others breaking bad essays?
Jesse's worst mistake was letting Walt enter in his life and never leaving his side until it was too late.
Walt cared about Jesse, the show puts emphasis on that, but not because he liked him, but because Jesse was his favorite puppet. The most useful chess piece. If you analyze the show, Walt never does anything good for Jesse if there's not at least some ulterior motive behind it or some way he could manipulate him even further. Even at his best, Walt always used Jesse and he is the main catalyst for Jesse's life going downhill.
Jesse cooked and sold meth before Walt. Walt just prolonged his downfall.
@@rolandsvigriezis217 I agree, Walt made him realize the bad of that kind of lifestyle and made it worse
Your analysis of Walt and Jesse's relationship is a bit simplistic. Walter genuinely does care for Jesse, not just as someone to control, but as a son. However, he also sees Jesse as a past version of himself, and he manipulates and uses Jesse, mostly as a twisted belief that he's doing the best for Jesse, something that Walt probably does genuinely believe. I don't think Walter only cares about Jesse as a tool, but that he used Jesse as a tool because that's who Walter is. He's a paradox. He loves people but constantly hurts them. He's both selfish and selfless. A monster and a human.
@hairyballs123 thanks hairy balls that was beautiful 😢
Walter meet Jesse as a cook
If not for walter met him again for cook, jesse would've been shot dead in some alley being friends with people like emilio couple of months later.
If not for walter jane wouldve killed jesse, she just wanna escape her dad and want jesse's money.
If not for walter jesse wouldv
No denying walter using jesse all along but he cared for jesse, walt's life wouldve been smooth if he just let jesse die after season 3.
I'm not arguing that Jesse deserved the amount of suffering he got. But I think too many people overlook how bad some of Jesse's actions really were. He definitely has more good traits to him that make him deserve some redemption, but he was worse than just "some good person who fell into the life of crime".
1. He understood what drugs did to people, he hates to see kids involved in any of this. Then why the hell does he pick rehab centers as his meth market in seasons 3 and 4? Not to mention this was all after he was recovering himself. Skinny Pete and Badger are uncomfortable with how morally unethical this is(to sell drugs to people who are TRYING TO CHANGE LIKE HOW WE WANT TO SEE JESSE CHANGE), he was like "stop being bitches and just do it" This is how he met Andrea, he was just gonna try to push a meth sell on her until he saw she is raising a boy. But as for the rest of the rehab group? They're still nothing but potential customers to him, he still wants his friends to push the sells.
He probably did feel bad about this, but he still burned bridges in his final meet. He wasn't apologizing to anyone, he confessed his intentions as a way to try to win an argument, he thought the "self acceptance" teachings was a bunch of B.S, and that was the point he was trying to prove during his confession. To recap, he didn't apologize, he basically disappeared for a long time, showed up one last time to say "your teachings are crap, you were all worthless customers to me".
2. Before all this rehab stuff, he also pushed meth onto a gas station cashier who was clear that she was uncomfortable with meth.
These 2 things show that while he clearly understands the harm of drugs from what he's witnessed, and first hand experience, once someone is an adult, he could not care less about what harm comes their way(unless he respects & knows the person, or learns they have a kid).
He feels bad about the things he does, but it's more like Bojack Horseman's cycle of feeling bad, and repeating bad actions(which Aaron Paul's character Todd called him out on in season 3 of the show)
You mentioned it yourself he was gonna burn Walter's house in the last season, does Walt deserve pain and suffering, the loss of his house or other properties belonging to him? Yes absolutely, but what about Skyler, Flynn and Holly?? He would have harmed them "just as a move" and "ends justify the means" kind of thing, which is exactly why he is out for blood with Walter, Walt did that to Brock, and Jesse was about to do the same to his family which is way more innocent than him.
You could say he wasn't thinking clearly because he was emotionally broken, but we don't accept that for Walter with all his insecurities.
Just finished the show and I am so glad other people picked up on these things
100%
"The most tragic character"
Really? Not Andrea? Not Brock? Not Hank? Not Marie? Not mini Spooge? Jesse. Mmmkay.
@@Chico50445 this is the problem I have with these fans of the show. I’m a newer fan and I’m shocked no one picked up on how selfish everything Jesse did was. I mean he didn’t even care about his friends. He wanted them to spiral just because he was. I loved the house party but he has his friends held up in a meth house partying everyday and barely eating. He was a POS.
@@drewmcwhortor4804 I mean, he suffered the most, he got tortured, enslaved, insulted, numerous crimes on the conscience, addicted to drugs, his family is ashamed of him (for good reasons but still)
@@drewmcwhortor4804 ik this reply was from 5 months ago but thjrhjrhrhrhr
Half of them you mentioned don't even make sense as a contender for the most tragic character. I mean some of them like Marie or Hank have also suffered from Walter's manipulation, but like, we know Jesse's suffered the most from it. And has a fair amount of emotional and physiological abuse from Walter (which, I'm surprised out of all the characters you listed, you didn't also list Skyler because she and him have gone thru it the most with Walter)
But like Andrea and Brock? I get like first off Andreas death was DEFINITELY tragic but she's not nearly as an important / fleshed out character, we're not following an arc or watching her highs and lows as she develops, so there's not much of a connection there with the audience, I mean one of the only reasons why her death is gut wrenching is BECAUSE of her relation to Jesse. (His reaction too ofc) But like if she was a random character who didn't mean anything to any other character then obviously we wouldn't bat an eye. You could honestly argue that her only purpose as a character was to serve as more trauma for Jesse if she was intended to be killed that entire time lol.
Also Jesse's the only one who has been enslaved and tortured 😭 it's so much more impactful and therefore easier to claim he is the most tragic character because we see him go from a kind of silly, even unlikable at first or annoying character, to finding out he may have a softer side, to believing he is the bad guy and deserves whatever he gets bc of his guilt, to becoming the sort of 'heart' of the series, or at the very least representing the average person minus the addiction, to well yaknow a broken guy. Loosing his silliness and there's definitely better words I could use for this but lol
Not tryna say he's like a saint or something lmao because hes definitely not, but like IMO spending so much time with a character plays a heavy part in how we perceive them, it's easier to be attached with characters and wanna root for them if we see all they go through, and like in Jesse's case constantly shown to feel regret and remorse. Unlike a one of character like mini spooge. Also why so many people somehow still root for walt haha. Okay this comment is long enough lol I hope u get what I mean
Ironically, Walter saved Jesse in more ways than one.
Walt bailed him out several times. And every time Jesse would get himself into more crap. Jesse had an opportunity to get into that minivan and start a new life and he didn’t. Then he got captured and enslaved. And if it weren’t for Walt rescuing him and ultimately dying to rescue him, he would still be in that cage cooking meth.
@@erichegwood239I agree with you, people who overlook that are fools.
Why does everyone forget how many times Walt saved Jesse? Jesse saved Walt once with the Gale situation, but Walt was only in that position because he saved Jesse from Gus’ drug dealers. Mostly everything was Jesse’s fault until after Gus was dead.
jeez louise this devils senate guy is insane
Good golly miss Molly
LMFAOOOOOOOO
Walter deserved all of this, because he chose a life of crime 😡
Jesse deserved none of this, just because he chose a life of crime 😢
Lol u r among the very few people who actually gets it. For some reason everyone loves hating on walt and they all have sympathy for jesse…can never understand why
Jesse was a lost soul addicted to drugs with a compassionate side. We don’t feel bad for Walt because he’s an arrogant sociopath who always has to get his way. Clearly they’re completely different in almost every way
@@Nash5599Well at least Jesse didn't fucking poison a child
@@Nash5599exactly
@@solobusiness4320lol no
The point of my previous comment is just that I feel like I always hear people say Jesse got into the life of drugs and murdered one person under Walt's orders, but other than that he was morally sound, but Jesse had more moral issues than that.
Also his first big tragedy for him was when his parents kicked him out of his house because of the meth lab in the basement. While you can say it was his fault for allowing it to happen and forgetting the real estate appointment, it can still be blamed on Walt for being the one to insist on cooking meth while the RV is not working. He was also refusing to give him his money, or even listen to him while he desperately needed some sort of help while going homeless.
Jane would have killed Jesse, spent all the money if they made it that far. Walt wasn’t responsible for Jane’s death.
good vid, thanks
Great Vid
it’s such bullshit that everyone looks at Jesse like such a delicate little innocent flower throughout the series, when meanwhile hes the one ‘CAPT COOK’ that the DEA was looking for months earlier because his Meth was so famous for having the chilli powder in it.. Jesse was the original Heisenberg.. just small time.. people remember what they choose to remember
Life is 1000000% about making YOUR OWN choices, that’s why he calls & tells his parents in el calmino “I made my own choices, you guys did you best with me.” Walt tells Gus at one point in the Lab “I’ve made a series of very bad choices .. and I cannot make another one”. Simple as that. Jesse is completely accountable for his actions by the end of the universe of EL Camino and that’s why he’s so sad, he knows he’s responsible. He got Jane addicted to drugs again, gets his other girlfriend murdered..he basically causes a plane crash through butterfly affect..he sells meth to a whole city for his own benefit, he kills kids, he kills Gale, he hates himself. But he keeps doing it because at the end of the day he really doesn’t care about himself anymore. He doesn’t have anyone left.
At least Walt is CONSISTENT about what he is. He knows what his goal is and what he needs to get there, same as Gus. If someone gets hurt dammit it was for my family. Jesse has no reason for doing these things .. he has no family to support.. no children.. no wife.. .. he could’ve easily said this is too much for me man, nah he got greedy and enjoyed the ride. Just look what he did with the extra money Walt gave him for the RV, he took it and went to a strip club. Jesse is a little scumbag
Big facts. This video is a JESSE JUNKIE VICTIMHOOD SESSION
walt saved jesse from overdosing with Jane!!!!
Lmao no he just wanted him to wake up XD
@@lacavalerieqc3714 no in an episode jane will tell jesse to sleep sideways after drugs, when walt tried to wake jesse he mistakenly made jane lie flat. So she died and Walt saved Jesse from jane.
You have to watch El Camino. It’s not a masterpiece like Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul but it does give Jesse’s character closure. It’s worth the watch.
Great video
After watching Better Call saul, I'd pick Howard, Nacho and Mike on par with Jesse.
I would even say Howard and Nacho had it worst. Since they never got the second chance Jesse had.
they also all died
@@ebenezer-scroogeIt grinds my gear what happened to Mike even more now.
He's not doing it for some selfish reason Walt had. He's the one doing it for his family.
But nope. They took the money he saved for Kaylee. Kaylee's last memories of Mike was him abandoning her.
Nacho was in the game. That instantly takes him out of the running in my eyes. Howard, absolutely. Howard, Drew Sharp, Brock, Mini Spooge, Walt Jr, Holly, Andrea, Thomas (too young to know better), Hank, Marie.
why does everyone keep forgetting about combo's death. he was a close friend of jesse, and he only died because of walts demand to expand territory. THAT was the first real tragedy, and is the reason why him and jane ended up back on drugs to begin with. everything else in the show is a chain reaction from that, walts first act on greed rather than necessity.
Bro literally defending jesse to a whole lvl jesse and Jane would have take no matter what happens
Combo yes walt fault but jesse caused troubles more than that after and before combo murder like his greedy when he didn't like the one million and half in a 3 months and other things
If Walt didn’t let Jane die they both would of die due to an overdose anyways, he saved Jesse’s life by letting Jane die
Not true, they could have escaped and lived together happily
@ Jane had already started overdosing, you mean to tell me you don’t think it would of happened again? Plus why is Walter expected to save a stranger, if someone’s having a fit outside and someone doesn’t want to give cpr that person isn’t a bad person for not wanting to give cpr it’s their choice
@@jackhowes8530wtf
@@lacavalerieqc3714don't cry snowflake
I disagree with the that the parents are "just innocent" his parents were kinda wierd and they treated Jesse like he is "shittier" person than his little brother just because Jesse is an addict. I dont mean that his parents has no right to be mad at some things Jesse has probably done because his addiction but Jesse needed unconditional love and not the kinda type of parenting that you put your kids on score list that "who is the better one and making me proud" type of way. Ofcourse Jesse was an adult when his little brother was just an little kid but I feel like Jesses parents birthed a another boy just because they wanted to kinda "start over" and have kid that they gonna put on lot of pressure like winning lot of medals, being good at school etc, Jesse's parents probably felt that they have failed on the way have raised Jesse, but instead of they taking the resbonbility of that- they just started to treat Jesse a really harsh way and cutted completly him out them life. This is why Jesse probably felt really bad guilt and has grown up the way that he takes all the blame and guilt of other peoples doings and feels always like he has "made them act that way" and thats why Walter was so good at manipulating Jesse, Jesse was a perfect victim for Walter. Jesse was really insecure, sensitive, emotional, hard to focus on things and impulsive +has really selfharming behaviour that is the drug use. Im not a professional but I feel like he has some kinda type of undiagnozed BPD and propably ADHD that has caused the school learning problems, and ofcourse later in life after Walter he has PTSD
Great point too. I feel like they were similar to Chuck McGill in Better Call Saul, a family member who has every right to be upset or disappointed with the actions of their loved one, but they completely fail to deliver constructive criticism, instead they only give destructive criticism, judging and defining them based on their mistakes, showing little to no patience or faith that they will change overtime.
If anyone doesn't believe Jesse's parents were too harsh, let's just rewind to season 2 episodes 3 and 4, where his parents throw him out into the streets. Yeah they found a meth lab in their basement good reason to be pissed, but they could have handled punishment in other ways, like raising his rent, making him get rid of his meth lap equipment in front of them. Homelessness for an addict is almost a guaranteed way to stay addicted, and to continue being an outcast to society.
Yep, the video creator overlook this.
‘I didn’t watch el Camino’ bruh why 😭😭😭
this video legit got my playlist deleted by youtube lmao
What? How!?
I'm disappointed Jesse didnt rip into Walter after he is saved from the Nazis. I wish he told Walter exactly what he thought then left. It wouldve been a gut punch to Walter, and give Jesse some closure before leaving Walter to die
To me, what he said to Walter in the finale was all he needed to say. Pointing the gun at him is one message. But when he got Walt to admit he wanted to die, he denied Walt an easy way out. That is another message and in my opinion a deeper one.
I understand why you feel that way but I feel like he said it all already before the final episode. In bits and pieces, he got his catharsis. The most impactful one to me being their talk out in the desert with Saul where he tells Walter "stop working me". Acknowledging Walt has been selfishly manipulating him all along. And he gets to say "or you'll kill me, just like you killed Mike." And Walt doesn't argue. True, Walt doesn't apologize and his hugging Jesse silently is both condescending and a further manipulation, but I truly feel like Jesse got it all off his chest already so nothing more needed to be said. Further punctuated by the look that passes between the two of them as Jack is mockingly calling Jesse his "partner, equal partner, 50/50 partner".... their dynamic is the brutal core of his and Walter's dynamic with all the niceties (and emotional manipulation, and Walt playing on Jesse's daddy issues) stripped away. (Never forget that Walt blackmailed Jesse on threat of turning him in to the police to get Jesse to partner with him in the first place. He literally never had a choice.)
@@youknowthe444He only refused to do it because he saw Walt bleeding out by the gun wound.
I have no respect for him, he chose to be a bum, he chose a crap life
Walt black mailed him into cooking meth in the pilot
@MasterShifu8 he waa already doing it
@@jamesbyrne9312 but not at that scale obviously the worse thing that could have have happened to him would be getting arrested
Walt made the decision to cook grandly and selling to krazy 8
Going after even bigger distributor "tuco"
He made the decision to take distribution in his own hand and expand
That lead to kombo's death
@@MasterShifu8 jesse is still a tit
While Jesse isn't a good person (most of the adult characters in the show are bad people to certain degrees), he's one of the few characters with a conscience, who doesn't want to resort to killing people for his own gains.
After being forced to kill, he really struggles with guilt. This is especially the case when children are killed or injured. Perhaps he was abused as a child and he empathises with children who are made to suffer.
Unfortunately he's in too deep with the wrong people.
El Camino has been out for years... Why did you make this video without watching it?
right 😂😂😂
What would it do with the show the movie is after the show events so no matter if jesse was good chracter in that movie or not
I feel like that was already obvious
Drew Sharp, Brock, Mini Spooge, Walt Jr, Holly, Andrea, Hank, Marie are all more tragic than Jesse.
This is a crap delusional viewpoint that puts all the blame at Walt’s feet but paints Jesse as just an innocent victim lmao
I lost respect for Jesse character when he started working with the DEA, if you go into this life you should know the rules, no police NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, he wasn’t built for this life
Well, I'd say that he's not as much of a victim as you're painting him to be. After Krazy 8 was killed by Walt was the moment when he could have just ended all the sh*t but he didn't. I mean, even if he was morally fine with selling m*th, an actual casualty could have been the line that he wouldn't cross again, but he stayed, continued playing with matches, got burned. I mean, there's more to the story, but there's that too.
Yes I would agree that Jesse was tragic to a point. He was blackmailed into working with Walt to begin with. People forget this. But he could have left him
El Camino should never have been made , there's just no need for it.
3 months. no likes or no comments, what does that tell you my man? No one cares about your stupid take on this. El camino was a good movie.
Jane was toxic to Jessie though. Jessie was falling deeper and deeper into drugs. That could have been Jessie OD-ing at any time. And to be fair to Walt, yes, he could have saved Jane. But what if Walt had NOT been in the room at that time?
Walt still destroyed Jessie.
Walt actually accidental knocked her over while trying to wake Jesse and that's why she choke to death, so it is his fault. Even if that happened by accident he could have saved her, and if he hadn't been there that night she would've survived. Yeah, someone could argue that it may have ended all the same if they kept on but technically it was Walts fault (other than the drug consumption, that was on her)
@Sylvertoons she would have betray jesse and k ill him she is just a gold digger
If you have thoughts or feelings you want to express, the video is worth making. That's all that matters. And yeah i happen to agree with you here.
"i liked Jesse until he became a RAT!" Lol gotta love where people draw their lines
I actually liked his chracter until the betrayal moment too although he was annoying and causes troubles
The more I watch breaking bad, the more I hate Jesse. He brought death and destruction onto almost everyone he knew.
Can we take a second to agknowlege how terrible jesse's parrents are.
Recap. So the show never flat out states how jesse got addicted but we are given indicators. Jesse first knew emillio since elementry school and his parrents put high expectatuons on his younger brother so we can infer jesse might of been introduced to drugs as a result of this. Now lets assune for the sake or arguement these arent the causes and agknowlwge why he lives with his aunt well jesse's parrents wanted to protect jesse's younger brother which is a fair reason exept they both are addicted thats right jesse in the episode with his parrents actually took the fall for his brother and both of them are addicts. Now lets give them the benefit of the doubt. Well guess whose house jesse lived in a cancer patient who we later found out is losing her mind. How did they expect a teenager to do well in school if he also is responsible for another persons well being. Plus why didbt they take him to rehab and issolate him from his addictions. They didnt seperate him from emmilio.
Like in heinsight is it shocking that when jesse is freinds with people who are lets be honest druggies and they expect him to take care of his dying aunt and he was a jr. Like even if walt didnt ruin his life even more.
I’m pretty sure we could’ve figured this out on our own
Technically Jesse was blackmailed by Walt into helping him cook meth; otherwise he would've never done it. I know it's easy to overlook sometimes but Jesse never chose to be Walt's meth cook partner, which makes his fate even more tragic.
😂😂😂😂 did you even watch the show jesse was literally 50 50 walt partner jesse could just say I am out
I had enough of defending jesse
@ sounds like you didn’t then. The Pilot episode had Walt invite Jesse to cook with him, but he also said that he’d turn him into the police if he didn’t accept; aka blackmail. His decision wasn’t initially of his own free will, he only got hooked when he found out how Walt was able to cook such incredible quality meth, and then later had many opportunities to get out.
Let's not forget he was a drug dealer to begin with
"Jesse Pinkman Is Breaking Bad's Most Tragic Character" NO he is NOT! 🤣😂He didn't deserve what happened to him but he put himself squarely in the middle of it.
Hank "Is "Breaking Bad's Most Tragic Character" but because he was written to unlikeable...
Wtf? hank was the best breaking bad character at least top 5. Frigging badass.
I don’t think a video essay needed to be made on this topic 💀🤣
You said shitty childhood but before said on record his parents were good parents. And im not judging or anything im just confused im sorry but your explanation was awesome other than that misunderstanding
(Edit:) Finished the video sorry you explained well to me sober me is in charge from the night😂
Jesse was a victim until he turned into a RAT! Everything that happened to him after he ratted Walt out was deserved. No matter what happens you NEVER turn into a RAT! I felt compassion towards Jesse until he turned states evidence.
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Found the Walter white burner account 😭😂
All sympathy for him died when he became a rat.
You're an idiot fed by the notion of "don't snitch". Jesse had finally had enough of being manipulated and lashed out in the best way he could for the best chance of turning his life out from the shit be had.
Internet tough guy over here
How is being a rat worse than being forced to murder someone, watching his ex-girlfriend get murdered in front of him, finding out that his father figure poisoned his girlfriend's kid, being brutally assaulted to near death because of said father figure, and more. It's absolutely insane that people value Jesse turning on Walter as somehow worse than all of the horrible stuff that Walter's done on him
Lmao ok
Really hate how you commentate
More like the most annoying character ever
Jesse is horrible. How can you like a snitch. Tells me a lot about you
Did Walter not deserve it. After everything. Like. I think it was justified my guy.
@@moss-eating-oddity3612 they’re both criminals. No one forced either of them to commit crimes. Once you’re in you’re in. What’s the point of snitching to the feds, cops, dea, etc. when you’re in a situation because of your sloppiness?
@@yoooerenarmin because walt poisoned a fucking child and jesse wanted to do the right thing and stop him from hurting anyone else, maybe???
@@moss-eating-oddity3612 the child was fine you bot. He used the kid to get Jesse back on side. Cool, it’s fucked up, whatever. Why not just go after Walt or his family? Why not burn his money? Why would Jesse work with Hank, after what Hank did to him? Makes no sense. lol shows me what kinda brain you got. Bozo
@@moss-eating-oddity3612so Jesse poisoned the mothers of countless children and problem their children with meth. This is a crime show not a soap opera e don’t have I like characters cause they cared about kids. Walt cared about his family but you don’t think that means he’s honorable.