Hopefully your head pro attributed this saying to the guy who originally coined it in the 70's, Lee Trevino, though the actual quote was, "“You can talk to a fade, but a hook won't listen.”
12:51 early speed training will benefit hugely. And to first build the speed neural, it is really easy to dial down a touch for more control. As for the opposite being conserned striking it and learning a controlled swing, the speed is really hard, sometimes impossible allmost to infuse into a controlled swing with an uneficient release. Regularly a controlled swing has the firing order the opposite. Instead of using the big muscles, legs to power the swing from ground up, stance is deliberately stiffened to have solid base to hit it pure. Look at Shauffle and Rors, Fowler. They all fire the hips with the fierce leg action and the front foot is lifting off the ground halfway the downswing!
So in summary the pros use slightly slower driver faces to avoid risk of DQ and occasionally do some whacky customizations that are outside the parameters of retail custom fitting?
I'd say almost. The pros all use clubs that were tested to conform and will likely not become non-conforming quickly. That doesn't mean that the club you buy won't be that way as probably half of them sold at retail are. The difference is that they test theirs on tour to specific tolerances and Dick's sells all of them no matter what. They get theirs from the same production line and then test and only keep what they want. They then weigh all components as Trottie said so that they can make sure that all their clubs match and swing the same. So every shaft will weigh exactly what it is supposed to so a 105 gram shaft should weight 105 where the one you buy may weigh 109 or 102. Now theirs may weigh 109 or 102 also, but that is because they want it to weigh that and chose it. When you get them off the rack, they just take them all and put them in clubs and the tolerances could be +/- 6 grams. The shafts on tour will be +/- 1 gram. They actually sell shafts that way to consumers too. You can buy the Dynamic Golf Tour Issue shafts, but you just get them all to the tight tolerances, not necessarily the exact weight and tolerances that you want. There are also many fitters that can add hot melt to clubs, just not Dick's or PGA Superstore type fitters. All of this is available to the consumer if you go to the right fitter. You can get the same weight shafts in the weight you want, get hot melt, get shaft frequency matching, get shafts spine aligned, change lofts and lies, and many other things. The reason you don't is because it won't matter for 99.9% of golfers. Most don't have the same swing every time and don't spend enough time fitting to find out where and how much hot melt they need or which exact shaft weight and frequency is best for them. It costs too much and takes too much time to get this done for minimal if any results for most amateurs, but it can all be done. So in reality, the pros play with the exact same clubs that are sold to consumers, they just check them for conformity and change them based on their needs.
I never believed the tour clubs were the same. The same standard exists for UCI (bicycle races), but there's no rule preventing prototypes for the pros and when those prototypes hit the market.
I think drivers have to be on a USGA conforming list before pro play. What they did do in the past was go through a batch of drivers and (due to the manufacturing process) found the fastest drivers and kept them for tour use. Half the reason pro's crack their drivers so often is because the faces were weak to begin with.
I thought they measured CT now? TM have always pushed that they are the same heads, but the tour issue ones are hand selected off the production line and measured in terms of loft, ct, face angle, and weight. This makes fitting the players easier, for example, a player who wants 10° of loft with the face 1.5° open... because they are all measured makes selecting that spec easier for them.
Sorry -- I think TROTTIE is NOT believable! EVERY SINGLE DRIVE HEAD in THOSE TRUCKS -- are MUCH closer to COR than what we get and most likely--- they ARE OVER, and NO--officials do NOT CHECK --LIKE THEY SHOULD! His story of a player getting the driver checked --- is a TOTALLY anomaly!
Same with pros tennis racquets: they use either pro-stocks or different molds of retail versions, with different pallet/handle lengths/shapes, different swing weights, added lead tape/silicone injections, etc
So the coefficient of restitution *rises* after its been beaten to death by rory? Like the metal(?) increases its springform effect through growth of its elasticity? Thats wild.
Sorry, I'm NOT buying it! I think what REALLY needs to be done is let Rory beat the driver THEN-- give it to ONLY other mechanical engineers and metalurgy specialists that are IN NO WAY related to the golf industry! These engineers should never be allowed to communicate with ANY person like Trottie or even any people connected with golf companies-- just turn the clubs (several TOUR player hit ONLY-- directly after they "beat"that driver-- )let at LEAST 3 DIFFERENT Tech universities departments Do THE REAL measuring and testing --NO INPUT AT ALL from the golf companies or ANY people working in tour trucks! Why so crazy detail and no interference? Because --a "beat" driver face gets SOFTER and EVERY SINGLE DRIVER in that ---TOUR TRUCK has ALREADY BEEN TESTED for COR-- think about it-- they build it---and SO MANY TIMES--PLAYERS use it --THAT ---VERY DAY--or WHOLE competition! So -- that COR is RIGHT --AT THE TIPPING point and THE VAST majority are NOT BEING --CHECKED at the MOMENT --by tour OFFICIALS! The FACE --IS -- ALREADY VERY CLOSE to THEE point that is BEST COR --AND READY to PLAY--and I DO think it ALREADY IS-- BECAUSE SO MANY PLAYERS --take DRIVERS RIGHT OFF the TOUR TOUR --AND PLAY---THAT DAY AND THE WHOLE tournament! The face when BEAT-- gets SOFTER-- that IS WHAT happens to metal and it SHOULD LOSE some trampoline effect----NOT GAIN IT-- remember --that COR of DRIVERS--ON THE TRUCK-- is ALREADY --KNOWN-- to have a spec that MEETS that COR! There is NO WAY ANY golf company is going to PUT A TOUR driver head-- in ANY TOUR TRUCK-- that is NOT MEET THEE BEST spec-head--period! I am not BELIEVING Trottie-sorry, its a fun story, but its a story! I also believe the MAJORITY of DRIVERS played by PRO's are OVER the COR and it IS NOT --EVER CHECKED!
That wasn't really about tour clubs being different other than that they play around with weighting a lot more, and they test regularly to make sure the clubs are compliant. The average golfer isn't hitting their clubs often enough, or with enough speed to ever worry about breaking the COR rule. Most of the chat was 3 blokes sharing golf stories....which is cool enough, but I was hoping for a lot more discussion about how the tour clubs are different.
This makes the decision to roll back the golf ball for everyone even more frustrating. We already aren’t playing the same equipment as the pros, so why do we care if there’s another difference?
True, but sadly YOU ARE PAYING UP like you are getting tour level equipment! People WILL say -- "if you paid for "WHAT TOUR PLAYERS ---REALLY USE-- your driver would be $1000, not $500"----THAT IS NOT TRUE! The marketing IS FULLY DONE and FULLY CLEAR-- that your are playing what the pro's ARE PLAYING! If it was NOT TRUE--THEN -- our drivers and OTHER equipment should be a LOT CHEAPER!
Any really good golfer that has had the opportunity to hit clubs from a “tour van” knows the clubs are better. Every club I’ve ever owned or hit from a tour van was the best club, longest and straightest that I’ve ever used. Lifelong golf pro👍.
Definitely. They jacked up the lofts on irons to claim they go further & are better but there was only so much they could do with drivers so a standard shaft went from 43" to 45”+. A majority of pros are under 45”.
@@TheWedgeWizardThat is false. I got into a convo with a guy on twitter not 6-9 months ago about pros lengths of shaft because a buddy who has worked retail golf for over 20 yrs told me the same thing. Guy on twitter posted a list of at least 35-40 pros shaft lengths and most were 44-45”. Very few, like a couple, were at or below 43.75. Rick Shiels also recently released his rematch with Fleetwood and Tommy almost every drive was choked down significantly. Doubt hes choking down 2” on a 43” driver. I think the real question is should us amateurs whether through a fitting or just taking your current driver in, should we be using a 43-43.5” shaft for far better control with very liitle distance loss? Im 90% buying a new driver this yr and have debated for at least 2 yrs if im having it cut down or buying standard and choking down like i do quite often.
@@fuzzybanana9128 there was nothing false that I wrote, the tour average is around 44.5, under 45 like I said, many pros using even shorter in the 43s, like Ricky, Sergio, tiger, but most in the 44s, especially lately many pros like cam smith have been going shorter when they were one using 45” to 44.5 or less. The tours tend to have trends and rn the trend has definitely been going shorter with driver shafts even though the average has always been under 45”, lately they’ve been even getting shorter though. The amount of pros under 45 is greater than the ones above it. I’ve been on many tour trucks through the years, played on multiple mini tours & personally seen/talked with many professionals & tour pros alike. I also don’t think you actually read what I wrote because it’s factual information that the majority of pros are under 45” with their drivers but you seem to be confusing what I said about the old standard being 43” and the majority being under 45”.
@@TheWedgeWizard Hahaha. I did read it wrong, thought it said 43”, damn fuzzy eyes. I stand corrected. Maybe i should start wearing my cheaters more. 😂😂. Whats your opinion on ams going shorter? Im seriously debating going to 43.75-44”. I choke down all winter in sim because of ceiling height and notice maybe 5 yards shorter at most but rarely miss faiways. More oftenthan not i hit it longer because of better control. I keep telling myself better to have and not need than need and not have, but i just cant decide.
Tour players also get different shafts. Some of them play with regular shafts but they are marked X stiff or TX. Especially for irons, they want to get their spin numbers exactly dialed. And they do lots of things with various lofts, so their 7 iron is your 8 iron, and not necessarily the other way you think. Basically their clubs are highly customized to suit their preference, swing and the courses they play. They have more than one set for particular condition on a golf course. Most amateurs don't even know exactly how far their clubs go, let alone able to hit the same distance consistently. So getting fitted with an inconsistent swing is a total waste of money. Just buy the club that is most forgiving and play with the ball that has least spin. That will be the fastest way to play better and lower your handicap.
I want to see pro golf courses develop that can’t just be overcome by ripping a driver. Ones DESIGNED to make players really think about risk reward in hitting the ball long. - and not just by moving the tees back by 50 yards. The hunt for more ball speed has made watching the sport less fun, imo. I want to see players forced to come up with wizardry multiple times a round, to have to have a full bag of shots. Not just ‘smash diver and flip wedge’.
I traditionally always hit a cut/super fade/slice but have put in a lot of work to hitting push draws and have started to achieve that shape fairly consistently. What would you say the differences are in modern clubs compared to yours/what advice would you give to anyone looking to get clubs that are more designed to hit draws? Like what would the list of things be to get done to my clubs to achieve that shape a bit more often? For reference as far as speed and distance I have I can consistently carry a 7 iron 165-175 (160-165 if I chunk)
@@TomoBystedt I made a mistake...I meant 7-10 grams...I just got one shipped to me from TM after my gamer broke and it was about 8 grams different...the fitter had a gram weight scale...hard to believe that much variance...
@@jdub6153 A driver is typically built to a swingweight so depending on shaft, grip, length, etc. the head weights may vary a few grams. The tolerance between two heads built to the exact same spec will only have a tolerance range of a couple of grams.
It ironic that Trottie is trying to shed light on some of the misconceptions about Tour issue clubs only for people to double down on the myths that are out there. 🤦🏻♂️
I can appreciate what you’re saying and I do think Trottie was being a littler dramatic with that comment, but Harman has admitted that it’s difficult to win on all tracks with the lack of length. Several pros who are shorter off the tee have said they are limited to where they can compete, unless they are having a magical week.
A hook does not go further than a slice unless the variables are different. Equal spin, launch, trajectory and speed going left or right will result in equal distance.
If a tour player yanks a 7 iron that they were trying to cut, it will go probably 4-8 yards further Given the same swing, a draw will gain a small amount of ball speed and have slightly less spin, while a fade will not have as much ball speed but will gain a little more spin That's just how the physics work
You can see that Trottie loves his job.
They had to get Trottie drunk before he would spill the beans about tour clubs being different…LOL!!!
Really glad Mick was there to ask all the layman's questions I also needed explained to me!
My old head pro who played on the Hogan Tour said “you talk to a fade, you scream at hook”, 20+ years since he said that and I never forget it.
Hopefully your head pro attributed this saying to the guy who originally coined it in the 70's, Lee Trevino, though the actual quote was, "“You can talk to a fade, but a hook won't listen.”
12:51 early speed training will benefit hugely. And to first build the speed neural, it is really easy to dial down a touch for more control. As for the opposite being conserned striking it and learning a controlled swing, the speed is really hard, sometimes impossible allmost to infuse into a controlled swing with an uneficient release. Regularly a controlled swing has the firing order the opposite. Instead of using the big muscles, legs to power the swing from ground up, stance is deliberately stiffened to have solid base to hit it pure.
Look at Shauffle and Rors, Fowler. They all fire the hips with the fierce leg action and the front foot is lifting off the ground halfway the downswing!
A great insight into what goes on behind the scenes what a great job to have 👍.
So in summary the pros use slightly slower driver faces to avoid risk of DQ and occasionally do some whacky customizations that are outside the parameters of retail custom fitting?
I think you nailed it
I'd say almost. The pros all use clubs that were tested to conform and will likely not become non-conforming quickly. That doesn't mean that the club you buy won't be that way as probably half of them sold at retail are. The difference is that they test theirs on tour to specific tolerances and Dick's sells all of them no matter what. They get theirs from the same production line and then test and only keep what they want. They then weigh all components as Trottie said so that they can make sure that all their clubs match and swing the same. So every shaft will weigh exactly what it is supposed to so a 105 gram shaft should weight 105 where the one you buy may weigh 109 or 102. Now theirs may weigh 109 or 102 also, but that is because they want it to weigh that and chose it. When you get them off the rack, they just take them all and put them in clubs and the tolerances could be +/- 6 grams. The shafts on tour will be +/- 1 gram. They actually sell shafts that way to consumers too. You can buy the Dynamic Golf Tour Issue shafts, but you just get them all to the tight tolerances, not necessarily the exact weight and tolerances that you want. There are also many fitters that can add hot melt to clubs, just not Dick's or PGA Superstore type fitters. All of this is available to the consumer if you go to the right fitter. You can get the same weight shafts in the weight you want, get hot melt, get shaft frequency matching, get shafts spine aligned, change lofts and lies, and many other things. The reason you don't is because it won't matter for 99.9% of golfers. Most don't have the same swing every time and don't spend enough time fitting to find out where and how much hot melt they need or which exact shaft weight and frequency is best for them. It costs too much and takes too much time to get this done for minimal if any results for most amateurs, but it can all be done. So in reality, the pros play with the exact same clubs that are sold to consumers, they just check them for conformity and change them based on their needs.
I could watch and listen to Trottie all day. Such a great guy and really interesting.
I never believed the tour clubs were the same. The same standard exists for UCI (bicycle races), but there's no rule preventing prototypes for the pros and when those prototypes hit the market.
I think drivers have to be on a USGA conforming list before pro play. What they did do in the past was go through a batch of drivers and (due to the manufacturing process) found the fastest drivers and kept them for tour use. Half the reason pro's crack their drivers so often is because the faces were weak to begin with.
I think finding out the faces are thicker, and that that they are sorted, is probably not what most people thought would be different about pro clubs
I thought they measured CT now?
TM have always pushed that they are the same heads, but the tour issue ones are hand selected off the production line and measured in terms of loft, ct, face angle, and weight. This makes fitting the players easier, for example, a player who wants 10° of loft with the face 1.5° open... because they are all measured makes selecting that spec easier for them.
I think that's correct
Sorry -- I think TROTTIE is NOT believable! EVERY SINGLE DRIVE HEAD in THOSE TRUCKS -- are MUCH closer to COR than what we get and most likely--- they ARE OVER, and NO--officials do NOT CHECK --LIKE THEY SHOULD! His story of a player getting the driver checked --- is a TOTALLY anomaly!
@@yakkyuu12 probably because measured see above
Same with pros tennis racquets: they use either pro-stocks or different molds of retail versions, with different pallet/handle lengths/shapes, different swing weights, added lead tape/silicone injections, etc
Top job . Happy batting.
Interesting the retail SIM head has that amount of hot melt in the heel and I still couldn't hit it left hit it low as ❤
Scratch golfer been gaming the Taylormade Burner 2.0 irons for 3 years don’t believe all the “player iron” gimmicks just play what makes you better.
reppin the eastside golf, and speaking facts
So the coefficient of restitution *rises* after its been beaten to death by rory? Like the metal(?) increases its springform effect through growth of its elasticity? Thats wild.
Sorry, I'm NOT buying it!
I think what REALLY needs to be done is let Rory beat the driver THEN-- give it to ONLY other mechanical engineers and metalurgy specialists that are IN NO WAY related to the golf industry!
These engineers should never be allowed to communicate with ANY person like Trottie or even any people connected with golf companies-- just turn the clubs (several TOUR player hit ONLY-- directly after they "beat"that driver-- )let at LEAST 3 DIFFERENT Tech universities departments Do THE REAL measuring and testing --NO INPUT AT ALL from the golf companies or ANY people working in tour trucks!
Why so crazy detail and no interference?
Because --a "beat" driver face gets SOFTER and EVERY SINGLE DRIVER in that ---TOUR TRUCK has ALREADY BEEN TESTED for COR-- think about it-- they build it---and SO MANY TIMES--PLAYERS use it --THAT ---VERY DAY--or WHOLE competition! So -- that COR is RIGHT --AT THE TIPPING point and THE VAST majority are NOT BEING --CHECKED at the MOMENT --by tour OFFICIALS!
The FACE --IS -- ALREADY VERY CLOSE to THEE point that is BEST COR --AND READY to PLAY--and I DO think it ALREADY IS-- BECAUSE SO MANY PLAYERS --take DRIVERS RIGHT OFF the TOUR TOUR --AND PLAY---THAT DAY AND THE WHOLE tournament!
The face when BEAT-- gets SOFTER-- that IS WHAT happens to metal and it SHOULD LOSE some trampoline effect----NOT GAIN IT-- remember --that COR of DRIVERS--ON THE TRUCK-- is ALREADY --KNOWN-- to have a spec that MEETS that COR!
There is NO WAY ANY golf company is going to PUT A TOUR driver head-- in ANY TOUR TRUCK-- that is NOT MEET THEE BEST spec-head--period!
I am not BELIEVING Trottie-sorry, its a fun story, but its a story! I also believe the MAJORITY of DRIVERS played by PRO's are OVER the COR and it IS NOT --EVER CHECKED!
@@yakkyuu12lay off the adderall
Brilliant insight.
As a fellow shorty I want to know where Trotty gets his Jeans! Look great 👀🤣
That wasn't really about tour clubs being different other than that they play around with weighting a lot more, and they test regularly to make sure the clubs are compliant. The average golfer isn't hitting their clubs often enough, or with enough speed to ever worry about breaking the COR rule.
Most of the chat was 3 blokes sharing golf stories....which is cool enough, but I was hoping for a lot more discussion about how the tour clubs are different.
small thing, but description says ep 61 but i think its 60. :)
I believe the ‘kid’ they are talking about at roughly 10:45 was Scotty Newman… if you know you know… 😏
I love golf love playing it but soon as someone mention’s a spin rate or a ball speed I think bore off
This makes the decision to roll back the golf ball for everyone even more frustrating. We already aren’t playing the same equipment as the pros, so why do we care if there’s another difference?
True, but sadly YOU ARE PAYING UP like you are getting tour level equipment! People WILL say -- "if you paid for "WHAT TOUR PLAYERS ---REALLY USE-- your driver would be $1000, not $500"----THAT IS NOT TRUE! The marketing IS FULLY DONE and FULLY CLEAR-- that your are playing what the pro's ARE PLAYING! If it was NOT TRUE--THEN -- our drivers and OTHER equipment should be a LOT CHEAPER!
Any really good golfer that has had the opportunity to hit clubs from a “tour van” knows the clubs are better. Every club I’ve ever owned or hit from a tour van was the best club, longest and straightest that I’ve ever used. Lifelong golf pro👍.
This is gold!
I’ve found something that might help, the drivers that are on the market at the moment for amateurs, have shafts that are too long 👍🏻
Definitely. They jacked up the lofts on irons to claim they go further & are better but there was only so much they could do with drivers so a standard shaft went from 43" to 45”+. A majority of pros are under 45”.
@@TheWedgeWizardThat is false. I got into a convo with a guy on twitter not 6-9 months ago about pros lengths of shaft because a buddy who has worked retail golf for over 20 yrs told me the same thing. Guy on twitter posted a list of at least 35-40 pros shaft lengths and most were 44-45”. Very few, like a couple, were at or below 43.75.
Rick Shiels also recently released his rematch with Fleetwood and Tommy almost every drive was choked down significantly. Doubt hes choking down 2” on a 43” driver.
I think the real question is should us amateurs whether through a fitting or just taking your current driver in, should we be using a 43-43.5” shaft for far better control with very liitle distance loss? Im 90% buying a new driver this yr and have debated for at least 2 yrs if im having it cut down or buying standard and choking down like i do quite often.
@@fuzzybanana9128 there was nothing false that I wrote, the tour average is around 44.5, under 45 like I said, many pros using even shorter in the 43s, like Ricky, Sergio, tiger, but most in the 44s, especially lately many pros like cam smith have been going shorter when they were one using 45” to 44.5 or less. The tours tend to have trends and rn the trend has definitely been going shorter with driver shafts even though the average has always been under 45”, lately they’ve been even getting shorter though. The amount of pros under 45 is greater than the ones above it. I’ve been on many tour trucks through the years, played on multiple mini tours & personally seen/talked with many professionals & tour pros alike. I also don’t think you actually read what I wrote because it’s factual information that the majority of pros are under 45” with their drivers but you seem to be confusing what I said about the old standard being 43” and the majority being under 45”.
@@TheWedgeWizard Hahaha. I did read it wrong, thought it said 43”, damn fuzzy eyes. I stand corrected. Maybe i should start wearing my cheaters more. 😂😂.
Whats your opinion on ams going shorter? Im seriously debating going to 43.75-44”. I choke down all winter in sim because of ceiling height and notice maybe 5 yards shorter at most but rarely miss faiways. More oftenthan not i hit it longer because of better control. I keep telling myself better to have and not need than need and not have, but i just cant decide.
Tipsy Trottie is the best
Tour players also get different shafts. Some of them play with regular shafts but they are marked X stiff or TX. Especially for irons, they want to get their spin numbers exactly dialed. And they do lots of things with various lofts, so their 7 iron is your 8 iron, and not necessarily the other way you think. Basically their clubs are highly customized to suit their preference, swing and the courses they play. They have more than one set for particular condition on a golf course. Most amateurs don't even know exactly how far their clubs go, let alone able to hit the same distance consistently. So getting fitted with an inconsistent swing is a total waste of money. Just buy the club that is most forgiving and play with the ball that has least spin. That will be the fastest way to play better and lower your handicap.
Harman never misses center of club and makes all putts
This is true. If ur a better golfer, the play is custom ordering and requesting 5 grams of hot melt in the toe
Thanks T
Do the baseball caps indoor keep skulls from exploding? IS this discussion intentionally incomprehensible?
That Eastside Gold sweatshirt is fire!
That was a good one
I want to see pro golf courses develop that can’t just be overcome by ripping a driver. Ones DESIGNED to make players really think about risk reward in hitting the ball long. - and not just by moving the tees back by 50 yards.
The hunt for more ball speed has made watching the sport less fun, imo.
I want to see players forced to come up with wizardry multiple times a round, to have to have a full bag of shots. Not just ‘smash diver and flip wedge’.
Lee Trevino said "You can talk to a fade but a hook will not listen "
"no one wants to do that anymore" 😂😂😂
You two wearing team colours
I hit draws and I can confirm modern clubs are not made for me..
I traditionally always hit a cut/super fade/slice but have put in a lot of work to hitting push draws and have started to achieve that shape fairly consistently. What would you say the differences are in modern clubs compared to yours/what advice would you give to anyone looking to get clubs that are more designed to hit draws? Like what would the list of things be to get done to my clubs to achieve that shape a bit more often? For reference as far as speed and distance I have I can consistently carry a 7 iron 165-175 (160-165 if I chunk)
Production driver heads can vary by 70-100 grams per head....
Sorry, but that's not accurate. Most major OEMs will have a head mass tolerance of less than 2 grams.
More like 7g-10g. 😂 . Even 5g is a huge difference
@@TomoBystedt I made a mistake...I meant 7-10 grams...I just got one shipped to me from TM after my gamer broke and it was about 8 grams different...the fitter had a gram weight scale...hard to believe that much variance...
@@jdub6153 A driver is typically built to a swingweight so depending on shaft, grip, length, etc. the head weights may vary a few grams. The tolerance between two heads built to the exact same spec will only have a tolerance range of a couple of grams.
It ironic that Trottie is trying to shed light on some of the misconceptions about Tour issue clubs only for people to double down on the myths that are out there. 🤦🏻♂️
Rubbish !!!! How did Brian Harman win the open and get in the top 10 in the world then with 165 ball speed !!!
Steroids
Only major Harman can win unfortunately.
Everyone has a day where everything comes together. You can’t deny that an extra 40 yards off the tee is a massive advantage
I can appreciate what you’re saying and I do think Trottie was being a littler dramatic with that comment, but Harman has admitted that it’s difficult to win on all tracks with the lack of length. Several pros who are shorter off the tee have said they are limited to where they can compete, unless they are having a magical week.
A hook does not go further than a slice unless the variables are different. Equal spin, launch, trajectory and speed going left or right will result in equal distance.
But there's no shot called a "snap slice"
@@ping7979I dunno, I've hit a few of those 😂
Draws spin less than fades. That’s why you hit cuts when trying to hold greens
If a tour player yanks a 7 iron that they were trying to cut, it will go probably 4-8 yards further
Given the same swing, a draw will gain a small amount of ball speed and have slightly less spin, while a fade will not have as much ball speed but will gain a little more spin
That's just how the physics work
@@raggamuffin1985 you all need to go back to school. With all parameters equal there is zero difference.
Amazing how this guy thinks that adjusting clubs is “new”