How I repair broken stairs (1920’s Renovation Part 30)
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- One of the final pre-carpet jobs is to fix this broken step. While I’m at it I’m going to strengthen and refurb this entire section of the staircase so that it lasts for another 100 years.
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I was just watching your vid and saw that you signed under the stairs. You should put your RUclips channel on it also. Can you imagine how cool it would be to find this series as the new home owner in 200 years
The amount of rubbish you have cleared, for this project, is monumental! You're a trooper.
5 skips so far! 😁
This is precisely where I am with my 1920's house on the exact same step. I had no idea how to fix it...thank you so much for your video. 🤗
Having been a decorator in the North East all my working life, I have come across lots of painters signatures and little notes when I have stripped old wallcoverings off! Needless to say, I have left my own signature and comments on numerous occasions while re-papering.
Fantastic - love it! We've found a few messages under wallpaper, really nice to find. 👍
@@GosforthHandyman as are newspapers, coins, and even empty cigarette packs.
I’m a floorlayer and I recommend you ask the carpet fitter to pin/screw the gripper rods onto the stairs instead of hammer as it can knock the riser loose
The house will fall down before these come loose. 😁👍
Just saw you B&D workbench. I still use the same one I bought before I started my apprenticeship in 1978. Still rock solid. A couple of the springs have gone. Great how you work, explaining the process as you go along. Brings back so many memories of my 1st and 2nd year training. Great work. Keep it up.
I love how each channel has their own favoured material. It seems yours is two part activated glue Andy!
Fantastic video! You really bolstered those stairs! But... I know you're very busy these days and haven't done how-to videos in a while, but if you could do a video on the subject of 10:15 and how to find angles for various elements of the house, I would bow down and worship you like a god!
Loving the comments about leaving signatures. If I find one under my wallpaper in the kitchen I hope they’ve left a number so I can tell them what an awful job they did! Lol 😆 If anyone on here saw it, they’d agree.
The OCD in me would have made support boards that went all across the back instead of patches of wood.
But, that's just me, I've been accused of overbuilding everything I do.
Strictly speaking in this case it wouldn't be overbuilding as the repair here is already overbuilt. You're spending time on finishing even where its unseen. I'm in complete agreement. I can't bear the idea anything I do looks "good enough" unless its for a pet or a temporary garden structure and even then I struggle to underbuild enough! This does of course mean you have less time for the real visually important stuff, but that hasn't stopped me yet
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Thanks very much for this video. I've had my stairs fail in exactly the same place (I'm renovating a Victorian Terrace) and I followed your process exactly (even with the wedges to really tighten things up). I was reluctant to take down the lath and plaster but after trying to botch it from above with some brackets and 12mm ply it was clear that I needed to bite the bullet. So glad I did. Hard work but totally bomber now. Appreciate the content! It's a great channel.
I wish I had your skill and willpower to get a project like this done, I love seeing it come together. Looks like it will be a very comfy home.
I started this series with this episode and went back and binge watched the whole journey up to now. I very much enjoy your content!
I'm having almost this exact same problem on my main steps and I thought of doing something similar but wanted to make sure it'd been done by a pro before I started on it. Thanks for the video.
Got to say I do love what you do but I also admire the people who built it 100yrs ago
Once again I have to applaud you for tidying up your mess before you make good the dangerous woodwork..! 100 years ago, all these jobs by artisan craftsmen would have been completed using only hand tools.... you're just following in their footsteps.
Thank you! Gotta leave it neat and tidy 😁
The house is looking amazing so far!! Dead exciting!
it's a good way of fixing the stairs with out spending a fortune happy days.
I appreciate being taken on this journey with you, Andy and I like your solutions. Thanks 🌞
It's been a pleasure and a lot more still to come! 😁
@@GosforthHandyman you’ve probably moved in by now
Thank you, renovating our 1930's house, carbon copy repair. Used quite a few of your videos, legend :)
Just what I needed to tackle the broken attic stairs in my late Victorian Tce., unfort. I won't rip out all the lathe and plaster underneath as it's in the home so will have to work from both above and level. One poinrt I didn't gather was what you decided to do about the broken rebate on the riser.
Love your signature in the never to be seen area under the stairs. As an apprentice electrician I used to write my name on some cables under the flooring. Always wonder if anyone ever saw them.
Just felt like a good thing to do for some reason
Defo - like leaving little messages. 👍😁
@@GosforthHandyman Last time I decorated my Mams sitting room, I found messages on the wall that my Dad had left, how many rolls of wallpaper the room took, a "Hello" , what day he wrote the message and his name. It made all of our day just to see something from him, Felt like he was still here with us....
I used to leave a newspaper.
I had a plastic human skeleton that my missus bought for Halloween one time. When I sold my old house I left it deep in to the crawl space with an old sheet partly covering it.
Makes me laugh wondering if or when it’ll ever be found. Just hope the police don’t end up at my door one day!
I used to use permanent black marker and write my name, date and a short description of my current mood on the back of the oven cabinet. Only way to see it was if the kitchen was ripped out.
Current boss would have heart attack seeing writing on cabinets that might confuse the installer.
Just about to fix my stairs. Good solid job. Hope I've got access to the underneath!
Great job done. Relaxing just watching, thank you
Hi Andy 😊 nice repair mate, it'll still be there in another 100 yrs,lol , love the way you clean up as you go along, some tradesmen don't bother until the end of a job, and there's crap everywhere,lol. The house Is coming along nicely and there's light at the end of the tunnel mate, thanks for the video, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart uk.
Another great video Andy, nice one. Love the signature.
Brilliant work and thanks for sharing this with us take care
Love the date and signature!
Hi sir and if I maybe so bold Andrew or Andy , splendid job as always . A most unusual way of utilising a cupboard under the stairs , have not seen the like in my locality . But none the less a very useful space , it would seem your ahead of the carpet fitters bless you . I shall look forward to the next instalment of your renovation project , as you tackle all those unseen issues that manifest themselves when tackling an older property . Best wishes and kind regards as always. 😀👍👍👍
Great video Andy, thanks !!
Your carpet fitter is going to love you - running screws all along the riser and the skirting - he will have to be careful with his gripper rod nails.
Brilliant stuff :) You helped me out a lot here and I have some more ideas to repair my stairs because of your video ... Thank you very much
I highly recommend a 5 Minute Polyurethane Wood Glue for a caulking gun for this job. It's gap filling, sets quickly and is super strong. I used it on my stairs 4 years ago. Still rock solid and no squeeks at all.
Good fix for a complicated job. You made it look so easy. Oh and the music was terrific too!
You’ll be able to but some insulation under those steps now you’ve got access too.
Yeah, I thought it would be weird when Andy has gone through the trouble of insulating under all the floors just to have a big draft through the stairs.
Or maybe the garage will be insulated and heated so it's taken care of that way?
Yup! Will defo be insulated - as much as I can fit in there. 👍👍
Exactly the video I was looking for. Exactly the same issue I have on the risers split and treds broken as they bend around upto to the landing. Now seeing what you've done, I can work on getting my stairs repaired and back to a fully sound secure foundation.
Only challenge, will be not allowing anyone to walk on them for 24hrs. 🙃
Step in the right direction eh! Andy, you are going to be so proud of yourself for years to come living with your labours and skills. 💝
Thank you! 👍👍
Great work
Well done well done
Corking job repair !! I would add some contractors pva glue mixed with a bit of water and brush it all over the stair case as bolt and braces . I’m no builder . But we had that type of stair case going to loft Extension with a similar problem to yours our caused by 6 ‘4 17stone football player son and him being so heavy footed over a period of 21 years of wear and tear and that’s what they recommended the 2 builders we got out to repair it stops Squeaking in stairs too .
Thank you 🙏 for sharing you have done a canny job you have turned this house into a beautiful home 🏡 look forward to the next video take care keep well and safe 🙏👍😊🌈🌈🌈
Thank you - nearly there! 👍
Great video, gives me hope for my creaky 180° staircase. It's fairly recent, square section Newell posts etc but soft wood. I now have some idea what to look for. I know, a creak ain't much, but my understairs cupboard is open to view the underside. Just a niggle, but knowing what's moving is useful for prioritizing, bottom of the list or fallen off completely😉. They varnished it, but the timber is still rough sawn🙄. Expect I'll hear the party when you move in🥂.
Awesome job Andy and thanks for the tips.
I've got virtually the same issue with my 60's staircase, a split riser where its screwed into a quarter turn tread.
As the underside of mine is in a kitchen pantry/cupboard i want to repair it without losing much head height.
metal strips adjoined with joist holders ?
There's the problem with no stringer for those winders. They counted on the nails through that riser into the tread, in hopes that good faith would keep it together forever. LOL The riser should just be a filler, rather than a structural member, IMHO.
Yup, totally agree! 👍👍
Definitely thumbs up you made a good strong repair there 👍👍
Cheers bud! 👍
Thanks for the detailed video... I may get away with doing it myself now as our stairs have the exact same issue. on a couple of steps
very good Mac
Brilliant job Andy. I was wondering how you were going to fix it? One for the DIY memory bank.
thanks for the video, stairs isnt a common video for build and repair guides on this platform
That was very interesting Andy, but I’ve got a problem with the bottom three stairs as they turn, the two bottom ones are completely loose! And it’s very difficult to get to them and I’m finding it like mental gymnastics trying to figure out how to repair them??!!
A remote controlled clamp with a brain (and feedback I reckon) under the stairs, fancy! Compliments to mrs. Mac.
Cheers! She could only just reach too, how we laughed. 😂👍
@@GosforthHandyman Platform soles were in the70s, your good lady would be a tad young for them.
Awesome
thanks for the vid, finally fixed our stairs having watched it. (I have pics if you'd like)
CA glue is super glue. It means Cyanoacrylate. :)
Great job up to now matey.I got divorced in 2000 and with my half of the money bought a late 20s house,on my own with cash in my pocket a decent job on morns,afts and nights had plenty of time to crack on with bringing it up to date sometimes kicking and screaming but I've got it there only trades needed was plasterer( I'm hopless) and gas fitters luckily my daughter was at the time going out with a fully qualified sparky everything else I did my self,when you get to the stage you are at with skirting ect it's a great insensitive for that final push.Great vids and very helpful,wish they were out when I was doing mine,👍don't think internet was invented then,🤣
Fantastic stuff! Yes, very close to done (phase 1) now! 👍😁
Not sure of the temperature in your future garage, but would any insulation under the stairs help when you close it back up?
I’ll be adding few sheets to at least stopped draughts And keep the heat in cold out
It can make a big difference. The bottom ten steps of my stairs are open to the underfloor void. They are now covered with 75mm of PIR and the brick wall below the stringer and to the understairs cupboard have 100mm fibreglass bats attached to them. Raised the temperature in my hall by around 2°C in the winter.
CAPITALS DUE TO PARTIAL SIGHT AND REDUCED COGNITIVE ABILITIES.
AS A RETIRED JOINER I WOULD NEVER HAVE CONTEMPLATED THE USE OF STEEL IN JOINERY WORK. WHILE I WAS WATCHING I WOUNDED IF LARGE L BRACKETS MAY HAVE BEEN AN OPTION. THESE COULD BE FITTED TO THE RISER AND TREAD OVER PLY TIMBER SUPPORTS. DOING THIS SORT OF REPAIR ALWAYS THROWS IN CHALLENGES. CRACKING WORK AS USUAL, THANKS MICHAEL
Before gluing down the Carpet to the stairs, put in a separation layer, and an water barrier layer.
For water barrier just paint then once with an cheap paint. And for the Separation layer glue newspaper down to the steps and raisers.
The reason is that at some point someone will spill something on the stairs and it will soak into the wood. The paper will help when removing the carpet later on. It's a pain to scrape off old carpet and glue.
I have a feeling...maybe you should provide Mrs Mac with a photo of yourself, sitting in a chair, eyes open, keeping absolutely still... I think she'd be amazed!
Mite need some insulation under that stairs also 👍
14:03; i see wat u did there.
Joshua alexander draws a Garfield face in hidden places during his renovation/construction jobs.
Another cracking example of the joys of lime plaster.. considering that’s an out house and the timbers are perfect, the lime plaster with laths will have been breathing and flexing for 100’s of years.
Is that stair section coming into the new extension, you mentioned garage.. is that going to be an “warm” garage?
Cracking stuff as always.
cheers . hope 2 c what u did around ur fireplace.
Good tip for removing plaster from lathe and plaster ceilings is to use a garden space. Suspect you didn’t have the room under the stairs though.
Looks good Andy , I would have put more c24 . Wall to wall so the speak and all of the kite winders I could reach. But that’s a great job
Cheers! All the others are supported by the beefed up timbers so should be solid. 👍😁
Gosforth Handyman no doubt. It’ll be rock solid
Bulldozer dustpan and brush i see...had mine for 2 years..still going strong.
Great video btw.
Weird, my reply vanished... absolutely! Wish they made a metal one too! 😁
Excellent work as usual but what's happened with all the awesome joinery jobs etc you used to post??
I’ve signed all my floor boards I’ve replaced with the year next to it think one 100/200 years time will be interesting for those people also added covid year to the things I’ve been doing during the lockdown
Too right - we've left a couple of 'covid messages' 😂👍
Hi, what if you don't have access to under the stairs, I'll have to cut the step out and make some kind of platform to fit the step on to?
An Amazing Fix Andy & Looking Very Safe, Will you be insulating this as well buddy. I wonder how my % this would be on heat loss within the home and how many views have a similar set up & protentional lose heat from these areas.
Has the green door been hung on the wrong style?
I see you 'coal hole' has still got the raised threshold to stop the coals falling out.
History...!
Great video as ever, thanks. Any suggestions to how you would go about doing a similar repair on stairs that will be exposed (not carpeted)?
I previously repaired ours by screwing up from below through 18mm ply with screws just long enough to stop short of breaking out the top of the step. The big thing I've learned so far in my binge watching is mitrebond two part ca glue!
@@mikeforwarduk Many thanks for the advice Mike. Did you glue with mitrebond as well as screwing the ply?
@@julianday5466 hi Julian. I used wood glue.
And you can insulate under the stairs. You said at the start that its a lot easier when you can get access from underneath - what would you do if you couldn’t? One of our stair treads has broken and its all plasterboarded and boarded in the hallway underneath so can’t really get underneath without a lot of mess and making good afterwards.
Great Video just what I need!!! however, i can't get under my stairs !!! what do i do? please help... Thanks
Honestly suprised you managed to save the old step I would have been seriously considering replacing the riser and tred and then adding a stringer support down the centre. Good job though! I know all too well how awkward working on stairs are (sooo much cramp!)
Speaking of someone who has recently sanded back his steps on a 1913 property I would say: don't feel bad about all the screw heads. 100 years of wear on the softwood treds makes noticable divots so sanding them up to look nice is a massive timesink. You choose correctly with carpet :)
Cheers - yeah, I was preparing myself for replacing the whole lot but in the end it was fixable, which I was very pleased about 😁
My 30 year old softwood stairs, even softer. Divots and noticable wear on the nosings.
Hey you get out of my house lol
Honestly though I have the exact same steps, bad one included
Do you insulate under the stairs afterwards?
Wouldn't it be worth getting some form of insulation in there under the stairs or will the coal hole outside be an interior eventually?
The treads probably cracked while hauling furniture up and down.
I'm more curious how the under space will be insulated.
That's a wild winder design, is that typical? Cause I just learnt them In school, and we built them by building 3 separate landings, and just stacking them
It appears that the stairs are over an unconditioned space. If that is the case, will you be installing any insulation before you apply the fire-rated boards?
what do think of expanding gorilla glue meny thanks alan
Great video mate…. There may be a video I’ve missed on it but could you briefly explain your water pipe in the old out house… does it feed the house? I still have my old lead main and it’s under a concrete floor so the new route would be through my garage into the house that way. I’m guessing as long as all regs are met and it’s insulated etc it’s acceptable? Cheers buddy.
looks like his new plastic supply ,it prob goes through the barn into his kitchen
My OCD would have prompted me to put a vertical 2x4 post from the lateral 2x4 framing up to the bottom of the tread. But that's just me.
NOOICE!
These stairs are the exact double of mine, unfortunately, I can not get to the underneath. 150 years of wear and tear have taken their toll. I am going to strengthen them, then box them in with plywood. I don't think modern staircases will stand the test of time as these have. OSB board and chipboard just don't work as well as real wood.
That void under the stairs will be filled with insulation before the new fire-rated boards go on, yes?
Oh yes! As much as will fit in. 👍
CA glue and mayonnaise. Can't go wrong :)
I was wondering why you used yellow glue and not construction/subfloor adhesive. I would have used it and put a large bead on the top edge of the plywood backers as well. May as well get glue on the surfaces that come into contact.
I’m surprised you didn’t incorporate that space into the house,
Can you give any advice on how to do stair repairs when the underside isn't accessible please. I've a straight run of stairs in an 80's house which will be recarpeting probably next month but there's a lot of squeaking going on as walk up and down which would like to resolve before covering. Many thanks
this video helped me, id tried 2 of the steps he did before trying the side screws at an angle. no more squeaks. just don't over tighten,
ruclips.net/video/aUjNt-lRSQw/видео.html
How would I tackle this problem if underneath access is limited?, as we have these turning step with the same problem but the majority of the steps we cant access, but really would like to fix them
Can this be done from the top down? Rather than under the stairs?
Hi, is the staircase open at the bottom? I have a similar issue in my 1920s terrace property, the staircase comes off the kitchen and a lot of heat is lost up there. I cant put a conventional door on as it it right next to the exterior back door so I was thinking of putting a type of sliding door in, but don't think it would look right. Be interesting to see what you have done or if anyone can point me to one of your videos that shows it please?
would it not habeen easier to exchange the stairs?
Should have used some PLARSTER
Thanks again.
Seeing that old coalhouse is in the garage does it now become a downstairs toilet
Good for another 100 years, we won't see it fixed again that's for sure.
Just so yher know, that old plaster was used as furtilizer for the hydrangers. For the blue blooms, just incase there are any ecowarriors watching. 3 :40
Don't they have central stringers in Britain? Great work! Getting close to moving in!
Too small for that.
@@firesurfer Nor sure I buy that. One could be run from the wall to the top of the stairs. It would, however, take more carpentry than it was worth when doing a development.
@@pmichael73 Stringers for a staircase only 3' wide? What for?
@@firesurfer It broke, didn't it?
@@pmichael73 It was installed wrong, to begin with. The small piece had no support.