Should You Use a Pancake Lens? | Ask David Bergman
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Today's question from Cory S. is, "What’s your thought on using a DSLR with a pancake lens?"
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Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM Lens
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Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 STM Lens
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Canon EOS-1D X Mark III DSLR Camera Body with CFexpress Card & Reader Bundle Kit
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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM Zoom Lens
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Canon EOS R Mirrorless Full Frame Digital Camera Body
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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM Zoom Lens
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00:00 Intro
02:00 What is a pancake lens?
04:44 Pros of using a pancake lens
07:17 Cons of using a pancake lens
11:15 Who would use a pancake lens?
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You, Daniel Norton, and other photographers have done an amazing job educating people about photography. Thanks for all your work!
Thanks for watching!
I have the 24mm EFS and it very rarely comes off my camera. For walking around a city all day, you can’t fault it. You never miss a beat with it.
David Bergman rocks. No nonsense, straight forward and very informative. Awesome videos.
Congratulations David for 💯 episode. That is a great solid milestone.
Great video. I have seen these lenses and felt the same way as you. You have opened my eyes on these lenses and will definitely consider one for my arsenal.
Yes I agree with you.
24mm f2.8 is great carry around lense especially during Travel n street photography.
It's coincidental this video was released today and I've been trying to decide between the 40mm 2.8 and 50mm 1.8
Congrats on ep 100, sir. All the best to you
I enjoy your little videos David. And yes, Adorama is the first place I check for gear. Have a great year!
Thank you so much, David. You have helped me tremendously to understand some topics around photography. I hope you are continuing posting tutorials.
Great tips in this video David. I've debated the 24mm pancake for years. Just to have a cheap, wide lens around. This may make my choice easier. Thanks again David!
Thanks for the detailed review. I recently purchased the EF-M 22/f2 during the holidays for my travel kit setup. I tried the adapter with a normal EF lens but that felt a heavy. Looking forward to more travel/food photos when things get better.
Happy 100!! and hope with more to come. In fact that the only feature I watch on Adorama TV , very informative, straight to the point ( no offense to the other presenters of course)
Thanks so much!
Thanks David, I love your show and look forward to it each week. I use the M3 as my travel camera with the 22mm pancake, the 18/150mm and the 11/22mm and it's the best set up, I rarely miss a pic and never have to battle airline weight restrictions or struggle with heavy gear all day while touring around.
I have all three of Canon’s pancake primes. They are awesome. Every one of them punches way above their weight class in the image quality department.
Adrian Bacon Good to see a positive comment from a non pixel peeping glass snob. These are great types of lens to ensure you have a body and quality lens with you most of the time.
This was such a good video. Literally bought the same lens before the end of the video. Thank you for such a great explanation!
These lenses are absolutely ideal for shooting video with a hand held gimbal. I have the 40mm on a 5D Mk4 and the little one on a M6 Mk2. Absolutely great results using Dual Pixel AF and they just make the Gimbal set up so much lighter.
Congratulations on the 100th episode! Just a basic fun lens set-up.
Thank you David for sharing your wisdom with all of us! 😀
Came here looking for pancake lense 🥞
Just recently bought the 24mm for my sl3 Canon camera and I bought two of my cameras from Adorama and learned so much from these videos.
Congrats on your 100th episode and I have been a steady customer at Adorama for years where I gotten most of my gear.beause of the personnel touch I get there. So much so that I got my Eos 1 DX mark III on New Year's day just to start 2021 year right. So I never given pancake lense thought until now thanks to you David.
Thanks!
Thank you for sharing, waiting for episode nr. 200!!!
Thank you!
My favorite lens for beach photography is actually the kit pancake lens that came with my Sony. It’s a 3.5-5.6 16-50, and for whatever reason, this lens does a spectacular job of capturing that unique beach light. Just love it! Bonus that it’s super small and lightweight and very easy to walk the beach with!👍
I’m so grateful to Adorama. I’ve learnt so much. I’ve not been to New York for years but I’ll be back, and when I do, I’ll come to Adorama for sure. Meanwhile, they don’t ship to UK....
Thank you for your video. I am a Nikon shooter. You had many good comments and suggestion on using and recommendation on what type of tools to use. I love my Nikon 50mm pancake. I like using it on my D7000. And it is because of it size. Smaller body's are very cumbersome to hold onto for me. I also use a Nikon D5100. It smaller size sometime give me problems because it is easier to hit the wrong button on it due to its smaller size. Your video was excellent and I did enjoyed it.
AND... Adorama *keeps* Father's appointed times. To people like me, a huge plus. It demonstrates, to me, priorities kept in healthy perspective.
Thanks, David for introducing those who do not know to pancake lenses; I love my Canon 40mm and not only use it with an adapter on my R5, but it is PERFECT to use with a Black Magic BMPCC6K for video work too.
Always love the content you and all the others put out. I have learned a lot over the years. As far as Pancake lenses I am a Pentax user and it’s not inexpensive. They have a 40mm f/2.8 but it starts at $230. I have considered it for my APSC K70.
dude, you look like a super nice guy lol it's pretty chill to hear you talk
Encouraging to hear that you are still employed by Adorama in this Covid 19 affected world.
Seriously considering the purchase of a 40 mm for, still excellent for my abilities and needs, my Canon 6D.
Congrats on 100!!!!
I use a 40mm Pancake on my 7d Mark 2, when I don't want to carry heaving. Also, I use a 24mm Pancake on my M50 for video. I love the image quality on both lenses.
Thanks you! Great little kit.
Really good chanel.
I use pankace canon whith 450d... Its really light and funny to use. Take it when walking streets...
Now want to go for fullframe body whith it to have more ungle...
I agrees with pancake lenses. Looks sexy as vintage 35mm film cameras back then. Yeah, I got Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM lens. As speaking of 35mm film usually took 4:3 aspect ratio but can't take a wide angle lens (it may look weird) or (I wished if there is a 16:9 or 16:10 equivalent to it). Also, I loved that 2 minutes run down segment in this Adorama channel. Quick tutorial, quick thoughts, and mini reviews which I seen it in the past years. Keep up good work, guys. Be safe and be careful... 📷📸
I've bought Canon 40 mm pancake lens 5 years ago with all pluses in mind that you've told as a pros. But I could not find a usage for it. For me it's not wide enough to shoot on streets with cropped camera. And my pics were not razor-blade sharp. That's why I keep my 40 in a box. But after your video I will give it a try with my new Canon 90D. May be this time I will fall in love with pancake.
I used one when I carried a heavy long zoom as it kept the weight down whilst still giving a wider angle. It’s also useful if you want to stitch photos for a panoramic as the lens is very close to the central pivot point.
Thanks. I'm Cory S. and used my Canon 6D/40mm lens throughout Italy. The pics are shocking and got about 95% of what I would wanted (which was way good enough). The 6D/40mm combo is pretty much my foundation and then I use a wide (24 2.8 IS) for video and otherwise and telephoto (135 2.0) when needed. Yes Sir - you answered it; and highlighted how nice the M50 is. I might get that/Sigma 16mm to dedicate for video, but do still like the DSLR battery life for travel.
Thanks for sending in the Q!
One thing I think you missed is that pancakes in general, and the EF-M 22 specifically, don’t have in lens optical stabilization. A chunkier lens with OIS may take up a little more room in your pocket, but if it saves you from having to carry a tripod everywhere you go, I’d say it’s well worth it.
Especially for the type of images this lens excels at, if you adjust your ISO and f-stop, you may shoot at shutter speeds that make OIS or a tripod unnecessary.
Definitely a "no frills" lens but often that's all you need.
Well, I’m not going to argue with David Bergman. But I use the M50 and the 22mm f2 (or more often the Sigma 16 or 30mm f1.4s) as my walk around kit, and on say, a hike, I get brilliant photos at the beach or out in the wide open, but the minute I get under a forest canopy, under a building, or into a well-lit interior where flash really shouldn’t be necessary, I find myself constantly getting “boxed in” on the exposure triangle. I don’t want to bring the ISO much past 400 to preserve image quality. F2 (or better yet f1.4) is great, but now your DOF is so razor thin that you’re asking for trouble on the focus front. That often leaves me in the 1/60th range. The result? Soft photos; either because I missed focus or my hands weren’t steady enough. I think in body stabilization or OIS can really unlock at least a few critical stops of shutter speed and give you a little more leeway to close down the aperture or keep the ISO in a reasonable territory. Does it add bulk and expense to the body and/or lens? Sure. But the cost in weight and actual dollars seems worth it if it saves you from buying a carbon fiber tripod and proceeding to carry it with you everywhere you go. I’m curious if other people find the same thing or if maybe I just need to lay off the coffee?
I have a lens Zuiko 17 f2,8 for Olympus OM it's very nice:)
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Would you recommend a canon 24 mm pancake lens for low lighting??, as long as there is a it's a flash being used?
Im new in photography i want to ask i have r10 what is best lens for couple photo and portrait the 24mm or 35mm? For reference for our travels i want to shoot the landscape and us couple using tripod
Happy Hundred Dave!
Canon 24mm STM became my favorite lens since 2020 I get it. I get it as a substitute of my 18-55 but It just amazed me how well it worked I feel like it wasn´t casualty, I'm sure Canon made that lens as a rival/alternative to the kit lens, as it does pretty much everything the 18-55 does, but in a fixed lens. I could never expect a cropped wide angle lens could get so versatile.
It's sharp, does a bit of everything, from landscape, pseudo-macro, portrait and low light, but also as it's so tiny and light It goes so well with my style as I travel a lot in bus or in my bicycle; I carry so little and do everything, It's just a nice lens; the only problem is focusing as STM is not my favorite in auto, however it is nice to have the option of a silent motor, but sometimes you must play manual and it sucks, it has it's own learning curve to handle it. Aside from that I recomend that lens alot.
Congratulations for hitting the milestone. I also thought of pancake lenses as toys. You've helped me see why they might be the preferred choice when sharpness is the key considerations. One question - wouldn't the fewer elements suggest that these lenses might have more problems with chromatic aberration or distortions?
I have used the 24mm f2.8 pancake lens for years and I have NEVER had any chromatic aberration or purple fringing. I have taken some of my best photos and most liked shots with that lens. There is just something about it. Creamy bokeh or endless bokeh balls, depending on the light. I had tons of chromatic aberration and purple fringing with the 50mm 1.8 and with my Nikon 35mm. I wish I could post some examples here but it is a great lens. I did get a bad copy when I ordered a second one a few years later but my first one was my favorite all around lens.
Without testing them, I think it would vary from lens to lens. Some are simply made better than others and optical quality can vary wildly between brands.
Hoping there's an RF pancake coming at some point🤞 Congrats on the 100th episode!
I have EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM and usually use it with my Canon EOS 70D because it makes my camera combo lighter and bring the very high image quality (sharpness, color, no-distortion,...)
Happy 100!!!
Thank you!
david, you are the best
Is there a weather sealed mft pancake lens out there, with af? 🤔
Hmm, not sure. I think they'd be more expensive for sure.
Congrats on 100th episode. I also use EFM 22F2 for my M6ii, it's brilliant set up. My wishlists are compact Canon Aps-c with 22mm fixed lense or Canon FF with 35mm fixed lense 😁
I’m disappointed you didn’t photograph pancakes with a pancake lens!
Been done before. :)
I’ve taken some of my best photos with a Canon 24mm 2.8 pancake lens. I bought it when I first started out with a T3I. I loved the bokeh and the ability to get close up to my subject. I also have the 22mm with my M50 as well. I don’t make videos and only shoot stills so the m50 is not really my favorite. I seem to have to really work to get a great photo. I need an upgrade but I am really having a tough time deciding which camera to go with. I know the lenses are where I need to spend my money. I’m thinking of the 6D m2. I have heard all the bad reviews and good. I am on a budget so I can’t afford much. I used my 24mm for almost EVERYTHING! I really did. I never took it off my camera. I shoot flowers, nature, fine art, etc. I don’t shoot portraits. I also shoot street occasionally. This was a great video for giving a very overlooked lens some much needed exposure! A lot of photographers have never even heard of the 24 mm pancake lens!!
If you go with the 6Dii, you'll have to let go of the 24mm and get the 40mm, if pancake lenses are your thing.
@@AbbasBinYounas Thanks. I know. It’s a full frame and that will not fit. I have not used that lens in quite some time. It broke when I fell and I ordered a new one about a year ago and it was defective. Since I was using the M50 and had the 22mm, I just let it go. I’m not really a fan of the M50 fir stills but it’s all I have right now, except my IPhone 12 Pro Max so that’s why I need an upgrade. Thanks again!!
Now I want some pancakes 🙄
Not one sample image?
I showed a few starting at 13:40. 👍
@@DavidBergmanPhoto I withdraw my unfounded remark, I was tired and grumpy
i just realized that i do won all of Canon pancake lens :P
The trifecta!
Modern pancakes get better and better. You can pay money for good ones and you can pay little money for 'modest' ones that are a pleasure to use. Image processing software gets better also, ai and so forth, so even a modest lens can pull up fabulously well in post, and no need to be paying for the chiropractors!
Took 2 minutes to get to the video!
Hello from 2023
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