Sad: Crushed Cars Miami Condo Collapse At NIST Site
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- In this video, we show you the crushed condo collapse cars at the debris holding site where NIST is performing their testing analysis of the condo collapse debris from the Champlain Towers South condominium in Surfside, FL. Here we are showing you a lot of the crushed cars as well as the massive debris piles with all the crushed concrete columns and rebar reinforcements. We have numerous photographs in high resolution as well as 4K video of the crushed garage vehicles from the condo collapse site. This holding site is about 10 miles West of the original site of the Champlain Towers South condominium.
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Actually a really good job documenting this especially considering the distance you had to work from. It's profoundly sad to see dozens of vehicles with this catastrophic amount of damage and yet understand they were a very insignificant loss given the circumstances.
YEs, plus it was very windy, raining, I had a ton of gear around my neck, headache from it, glad that day is over!
@@jeffostroff Thanks for going out there! NIST knows that we all want to see the Supra, so they've hidden it.
Yeah its great zoom work like that angle behind a baseball pitcher.
Thank you, Jeff. Seeing all of those crushed cars literally gave me goosebumps. The collapse of CTS was so sad, and so preventable at so many different times. It breaks my heart to think of the residents sound asleep in their beds, and then the building collapsed around them and snuffed out their lives in an instant.
RIP Champlain Towers South residents and guests. You didn't deserve what happened to you.
I would rather be sound asleep myself and not know what was happening just pass away quietly into the night
@jeffostroff I just hope none of those unfortunate souls felt any pain or terror as the building collapsed.
Very very sad, it makes my heart hurt for all involved, including rescue and all who helped 🙏
@@kencarp57 Sadly there were screams for help but rescue could not get to them.
@@gregadams558 Do better research... ONE voice was heard... expired in less than 12 hours... that's someone who's probably going to die even if you do reach them, AND... how many people who DO maintain their homes should lose their lives rescuing those who don't? This was a PANCAKE type collapse, and just like 9/11, 99.5% dead instantly, the few survivors are only at the edges of the "footprint", like that 15-yr-old boy--he was in the x04 stack, right on the "tear boundary".
It's so sad to see these shattered cars reminding us of the many shattered lives and families they belonged to. Thank you for reminding us of their terrible loss.
YEs that is an appropriate analogy, something tangible from the site, rather than just a body gone that we will never see again
Jeff, this is a haunting and moving video of these cars. Even though they are inanimate objects, we are all emotionally connected to our “freedom machines.” To see them so mangled really gives the entire tragedy a sense of finality. Maybe even more than seeing the pancaked rubble of the building, which was incomprehensible. Because cars, we understand. You did a great job documenting with the Nikon and beautiful choice of music.
especially that white supra rip
This is why I don’t put value on cars. Eventually they wind-up as junk
the photo shot at 6:38 appears to show some torn pieces of clothing. That building was filled with clothing, furnishings, appliances, cabinets, etc and just about all of it was crushed, ripped and torn apart into pieces the size of a dime in just a few split seconds. Those who perished probably never knew what hit them. I wonder if they were even able to find all of the missing. Very good history video that hopefully gets put into a museum somewhere as a stark reminder of how massive this tragedy was and how avoidable it was. Thanks Jeff.
They said they accounted for all missing people
I've been following your Surfside Condo series since you began, and so far, you've made amazing observations and lots if detail in your investigation. Having said that, have you given any though to following the Millennium Condo in San Francisco? It was built in 2006 and has begun sinking, and therefore leaning. They've since tried to shore it up, but it's continuing to lean. Engineers are confused as to why its leaning, or how to prevent it. They insist it is safe, but residents aren't quite so optimistic.
Yes I am thinking about a video on it some day
I don't know if you've seen it my dude but there's a short doc available on RUclips about the one guy that still lives there full time. It looks incredible. I would gladly risk death to live in a huge luxury tower by myself. I mean, by my own choice.
@@jeffostroff Please do.
Its a bit of a debacle for sure.
@@nadapenny8592 wow im super out of date, only 1 guy left now? Bet you could make a Last Night Standing hotel out of it, you'll be fiiiiiiine....usually.
Thank you, Jeff, my heart just sank at the close up sight of the remains of CTS. My heart goes out families that were affected by this tragedy.
YEs, it is unnerving to see these cars
@@jeffostroff I agree. Thanho you.
To think that each car represents people and families…profoundly sad. The background music seemed to underscore the emptiness of that loss.
Yes I was looking for a solemn mood song
@@jeffostroff Speaking as a professional musician, it was well chosen.
Seeing these crushed cars reminds me of photos I have of the crushed vehicles that went off the end of the Sunshine Skyway Bridge, 190 feet above Tampa Bay, when it collapsed after being struck by the _Summit Venture_ on May 9, 1980. Eerily similar, only the people didn't die inside the vehicles at the Champlain Towers South collapse.
That would be eerie. I wa sin high school and heard about that in tampa bay
This is so sad. Gave me goosebumps too! And think, these are just the cars. I could never work as a rescuer. God bless those people! Thanks for the video.
I agree with you
The not-so-crushed vehicles (e.g. @7:11 , 10:04 , etc.) were probably in places like Space 37 (protected by hot tub), and along the South perimeter wall, where only the lame pool deck was above them vs the entire friggin' building.
May God comfort the families of those who perished. My condolences. Thanks again Jeff.
Glad to help!
Thanks Jeff for sharing once again with us. Blessings
My pleasure!
You made an excellent point about the layout of the vehicles. I bet they are in some kind of order according to how they were in the parking garage. I saw a #40 on something at the end - perhaps a parking spot? So tragic to see all of that debris and know how many lives were connected to it and lost. Thank you for keeping this story alive. Lessons must be learned from this just like in aviation accidents so nothing like this ever happens again.
Thanks! As far as we know, no one was killed in the garage
Thanks for staying with this. The survivors, relatives of the lost, everyone living in beach side condos and 40 yo buildings everywhere want to know investigations are thorough and will find answers.
Glad to help Robert
This was one of the saddest stories ever. I sure hope for those who died, that the end was very quick. I wonder if they found anyone in the cars. I look at the piles of debris and hope they found everyone. I wouldn't want that to be the final resting place for anyone. My heart goes out to the families of the victims. This should never happen again, and hopefully won't.
Wow that camera is great. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching, yes I love that camera!
Great work, as always Jeff! You have the best videos on RUclips and the best source of info on the collapse and its aftermath. Keep up the good work and ignore the ignorant and jealous critics!!!
Wow, thank you Edward
Thanks Jeff for your information 👍 and video 👍 📹 I appreciate you
You bet Juan, glad to help and thanks for watching
Thanks for all your reporting Jeff. You are performing an excellent ongoing public service.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
Mike, thanks for your labors in explaining the physics of this collapse via your narrated animations, kudos!
Here in Oklahoma the last large tornado wadded up an entire parking lot full of vehicles at the hospital. I am a car guy and the destruction was so great I could not identify the makes from just a few yards away. The energy necessary to destroy these vehicles is immense. I am not comparing the two, just pointing out the obvious that the damage to the vehicles is a valuable source of evidence. Keep up the great work Jeff. Details get less and less the longer time passes and certainly by distance.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
I was sad but thank you for showing this.
Did well with the photography and music
Made me cry 😢
I did make it emotional, thanks for watching
Thank you, Jeff the True journalist!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
Somehow I missed this video. Glad it appeared in my playlist! Loving your analysis of this tragedy.
you are right. this feels like a scene from a post apocalyptic movie.
one of the cars wheels seems to look like a tesla. but it is so mangled.
at 11:17 you can make out a charger. it seems as an adapter, and the door panel looks like a tesla.
but it is put inside a different car.
if the teslacam was active it should be triggerd by the sensors. the tesla computer ist quite robust.
I have seen working units that still ran after beeing bashed and got wet, and sat outside for a long time.
a computer forensic is needed here.
this is something that always "scares" me about concrete buildings / high rise towers. if they collaps, they turn into nothing.
so sad, that behind each car is a victim that died.
but as always good work and research
I hope they got some video from inside that garage
It's a Kia!
I believe your theory is right about the positioning of the cars. It would be nice to get a drone shot of the site and overlay the building footprint but I don't believe that anybody would ever get permission to fly a drone next to an active runway. There also appears to be many cars missing which is curious.
I can do it, then edit the video from my jail cell!
There is one car in the grass with car size spots of dead grass next to it. I noticed some cars are concrete free and others are not. Maybe they are taking them to another area to pick through and document the rubble. Also, some were out at a club or out of town or simply vacant.
Aside from the obviously tragic loss of life, it really saddens me to think of all the memories lost in the collapse and subsequent destruction of the remaining wing. Photographs, family furniture, mementos, jewelry, clothing, childrens’s toys, videos, artwork-all gone on minutes.
Hi Jeff. Tesla's Sentry Mode uses a lot of power (5-7% per day of the battery) . Most Tesla owners would only have Sentry Mode enabled if they had an EV charger or outlet installed and charging their EV. All recordings are saved to a USB drive inside the car. Sentry Mode streaming to the cloud was not possible at the time of the condo collapse.
bummer
Still so many unanswered questions
Yeah it will likely take the many years to get to the bottom of it
Very sad , those poor people . Really nice camera work !
Eerily reminiscent of the cars on the lower deck of the Cypress Street Viaduct in Oakland, California, I-880, from the 1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake. A 3/4-mile section of double-decker freeway collapsed, and the top deck fell onto the lower deck, crushing 35 people in their cars. It appeared that some people tried to stop underneath the bents, thinking they would provide more protection, only for the columns to buckle outwards and the bent to crush them down to no more than a foot tall.
Just wondered if you saw the Dec 30th Miami Herald “House of Cards” animation of the CTS. I enjoyed it, especially the specifics on the locations of various people just before and after the collapse. I noticed that they implied the deck collapse began at the southern wall first, which then led to the collapse of the deck above the end of the car ramp in the area of the big planters. Last month the New York times did an interesting animation of the collapse also. However, the Herald gave everyone free access to the animation, whereas the Times gave restricted access; southern attitude vs northern I guess.
LOL yes! they contacted me when they released in the other day. I just uploaded a video on it tonight with my thoughts, and showing where we differ from their analysis and timelines
That is strange how the cars a laid out, you might be on to something about where they were at the time of impact. Good call on the dash cams too. Can you overlay that with the parking garage, maybe backup your theory?
I might want to get some overhead shots of the lot with a drone
@@jeffostroff That would be cool.
@@jeffostroff be careful with that around the airport.
@@StringsandWings Yes, you are already too close to the airport to use a drone. FAA will put you in the Pen if you use one there! And the cops on guard are aware of that fact too.
@@jeffostroff I think you might be best off with a really long selfie stick.
Hello 👋 friend thank you for the update . OMG 🚗 👈
Thanks for coming
5:21
Jeff, do you know what happened to the building's cctv? that part of the building didnt collapse with the rest of the building, those videos could be extracted before the demolition team did its job. it would be great to see those.
Yeah, it looks like the vehicles are mapped out in a specific location for investigation purposes. I wonder where the white one is also. What can people in the planes see I wonder? We need someone who took a video from a window to post it. I always loved taking photos from an airplane but now you can shoot videos from your phone. Thank you so much Jeff for documenting and your views of this collapse. Your insight is invaluable.
You mean the Supra! IT was likely destroyed whent hey collapsed the standing par of the building on 7/4/2021. There was no way to get the cars out of that part of the garage
Jeff, interesting comment you made about the fire coming from the cars. I don't see any burned cars in your photos though. I also did notice the "PPE must be worn ........" sign on the property. thanks for travelling down there to capture this for all following.
I am also wondering where all of the burnt cars went, maybe they are in a different place maybe they are in theory an environmental risk leaving them outside? I simply don't know where they are
@@jeffostroff at 10:49 are those not the remnants of a burned car?
So terribly sad.. lovely music accompanying the car photos… I’m so sad for those who died, their cars, and CTS itself.. what a horrific loss… senseless..
Just saw this video….subscribing to your channel today so I don’t miss anything else. As heartbreaking as it is to see that beautiful Supra, and brainstorming how it could have been saved, the fact that it sat in salt had probably already destroyed all its components. In 2014, when Pensacola and Baldwin County Alabama received historic amounts of rain, a Mercedes Benz/Volvo dealership located blocks from Pensacola Bay, had their entire stock of Benz’s submerged in salt water. Every car on that lot ended-up being “crushed” as well. No Volvos damaged….go figure? Insurance only covers a portion of the dealership’s loss. It took them over three years to recoup, in sales, their economic loss.
Incredibly haunting to see how utterly destroyed most of those cars were, and then to remember that that's nothing compared to what must have happened to all the people who were still inside the building when it collapsed. They had no chance.
Sad to think of. When working in the Salvage business use to see some awful wrecks. When you’d get a car in you’d couldn’t help but to wonder what happened to the occupants of the vehicle. It would be a relief when you’d hear that everyone made it. But your heart would break when you’d hear that it was fatal.
But I must say the thing that is sad here is that most of these vehicles may have been parked and nobody in them. But they still have death connected with them. As for how many above them lost their lives in the pile that fell a top of them.
Also you mentioned that they may have the vehicles laid out in a way to reconstruct them in the parking garage. But Considering the photos after the collapse the vehicles your showing seems like a fraction of the vehicles that were their during the collapse.
The vehicles you are showing are very badly damaged and I’m wondering if the reason they are holding them is because they might have been parked by or near the structural support of the building? Or if they are holding onto them to determine who they belong to? Possibly they are the vehicles of the ones who had parish in the collapse during the collapse?
Excellent video
Good information once again. Thanks
Our pleasure!
Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱 by the way!
And may the people who died REST IN PEACE 🙏🏽
I’m surprised that with all the weight that fell on the vehicles, most of the tires are still good, not blown out!
shock absorbers take a lot of the blow, as did the metal roofs
Great video. There was a Tesla S in the Fiorella Terenzi garage video from July 2020. Teslas have 8 cameras and more sensors all over the car. A collapsed part falling on the car would trigger the cameras (I guess it would be perceived as a collision). The company keeps records of the autopilot (camera) recordings. Tesla owners have dashcams as well because it's a little tricky to retrieve the autopilot recordings.
I am dying to see video from somewhere
yes, but that would likely be transmitted via cell phone link or web link.... IF.... there was service inside the garage.
Might be strange to say but THANKS for not putting sad music over it.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
@@jeffostroff Its easier to focus on and take in how horrifying and depressing the whole thing is when you don't have to listen to Wiz Khalifa/Charlie Puth over and over again. Of course said person somehow got INTO the yard so it must have been when they were still taking the cars out.
So glad to did the cars 🚗 I knew you would do a fantastic video of them . I was thinking the same thing as you on the layout there
They are still missing cars like where are all the burnt cars?
Did you hear about the Horizon West condos being evacuated in Waukesha WI? They are claiming imminent collapse. Many similarities but at least they’re taking action early.
I really think that laws need to be passed that every condo / apartment complex over a certain age will need to be inspected.
You need a friend with a bucket truck!!!! Great platform to get great photos!!!!
Keep up the great work!
Wish I could fly a drone
Bucket trucks would make the shaky zoom even more shaky.
Jeff, while your here in Miami, check out the FIU bridge collapse on March 15, 2018, a pretentioned bridge 5 days old collapsed in less than a second while they were increasing the tention to stop the cracking. 6 dead 10 injured. Designed by FIGG Bridge Construction, with some blame going to all involved.
This was only a 4 year old design, understanding how this occured on such a simple new structure will give people an idea of just how lax things were in Miami in the late 70's to late 80's.
Only when Cat 5 Andrew blew through South dade on 8/24/92 were improvements to the building codes initiated. They are not retroactive.
I dont think those are the cars from the collapse.
The roofs are cut off some of the cars.
That doesn't make any sense.
Thanks for the update🙂👌
I bing watched all your clips a few weeks ago to catch up
I am also watching Building Integrity which is doing a great showcase as yourself
Awesome! Thank you!
There were vehicles that didn't have alot of damage just wondering where they are 🤷♀️
They might have returned them to the owners
@@jeffostroff ya, I was wondering if any survivors were able to get their vehicles back before they took down the portion of the building which was still standing. Losing your home is bad enough, losing your car too would be insult to injury.
The Subaru at 11:23 that appears undamaged before the July 4 demolition appears to be the same one as the one seen at 9:28, and the silver Honda next to it at 11:23 appears to be the one seen at 7:07. It seems they left them in place and they got destroyed...
Tesla Sentry mode may have recorded something, but it is motion activated and only ~30 seconds. Depending on how big the storage drive is, it can record quite a bit (new model Y came with a 128G USB3 stick, I replaced mine with a 500G NVME SSD in an external USB chassis in a hardened case.
Wow. ! Hard to wrap my head around this tragedy.
It is still hard to grasp that this could happen
Thanks for this vid. I enjoy your thoughts about the surroundings i.e. Mad Max, etc.
Thanks for telling us, in video form, what the actual facts of this tragedy are.
Lastly, the video quality is great!
you did a superb job with this video - it is a surreal experience looking at all the detritus that came out of this tragedy.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
4:03 . . . That silver 4 door car (Toyota ?) seems to be completely filled with gravel (concrete debris?) Look at the weight loading on the rear wheel.
And yet it's not that compacted vertically like most... that's one I'm betting was under the pool deck, not the building, and further protected by a nearby column, hot tub, or retaining wall... all that mass INside the car is probably pavers and that weak topping slab. MAN I can't wait to see more surveillance videos! I mean 2021 and we've only seen results from 2 cams?... you know there's 8-10 more, at least.
@Major Calibere They are probably part of several investigations including criminal ones, that's why we don't see any.
That's a 2013-2015 Honda Civic.
November 26, 2021 7:54 pm
Good photo of the mystery column right at the begining :12
Wow, all those cars and the white Toyota Supra seems to be missing. I wonder, would they have been able to get that car out before the rest of the building was brought down, or could it have been so pancaked that it is totally unrecognizable now? I wonder what space it was parked in when the building collapsed? So sad to see all the crushed cars though and I wonder how many owners of those cars survived or died that night. Thank you Sir for keeping up with the continuing saga of what was Champlain Towers South.
the Supra is at a different lot it was crushed when they demolitioned the building that was unsafe that remained standing you can see it in the beginning of the video I will post a link to:
ruclips.net/video/WmfGGj-P9lU/видео.html
It was shredded right after 😔
That can't be all the cars that were parked in the underground garage. I'm sure a few survived like that Supra and are probably being repaired and sold. It is eerie to see though and thanks for taking the time to share your vid. Cheers!
Hey Jeff, did you have to get permission to do these videos even though you where outside the fenced area? I figured, they see a guy with a camera they could get a little nervous.
Standing in public property, on the sidewalk, don't need permission
It's 1st amendment. Public area.
Great work Jeff 👏 👍 👌 💪🏽
Thanks 👍
it makes sense why you would say that the cars were arranged the way they were in the parkade. the varying degrees of damaged cars could pinpoint where the collapse happened even though you have provided evidence of it with that particular column. for example the cars that were completely flattened could have possibly been where the collapse first started. I sincerely hope this is a wake-up call to owners of properties to have their buildings inspected
Great video thank you xx
You’re welcome 😊
If they are laid out relative to the positions they were in at the site, then couldn't you identify the spot the Supra should be? Is it possible that is was not heavily damaged (as it didn't looked to bad in the earlier videos) and they pulled it out before collapsing the last section? If they did then maybe it's back in the owners or the family's possession now? Just stating or asking some hypothetical questions here? 🤷♂️
yes, I looked where I thought it might be, saw nothing
@@jeffostroff let's hope they got it out in one piece and gave back to the family.
@@rdbuckels It was likely intact enough it got returned to the owner, or the insurance paid out to the owner and took the _flooded_ to sell at auction.
These might just be the cars of people who died, that couldn't be recovered due to lack of info/owner. The Supra was more in the west portion of the building, so someone likely claimed it, it was documented by the insurance company, then sold to a junkyard. Oh, excuse me, I mean 'Parts Yard/Auto Recycler'.
@Lake Nipissing It would be impossible and costly to remove any cars that were not damaged. It was an active search and recovery site, as well as a crime site too. The part of the building which didn't collapse was demolished on the 4th of July, so I assume every car was destroyed.
There was another video i saw where there were more cars stored some where else
Yes, apparently there were more cars there in August, I don't know why some disappeared.
Were the cars that were above ground just taken away before they sent the rest of the building to the ground? How would they have gotten the car in the water that was pictured out if it was still in one piece?
Yes the cars on the above ground parking deck I imagine they were able to tow them out after showing up on below or checking the deck to make sure it would not collapse. Ask for the supra I don't think they were able to get it out because there's no other way out of that garage so it's trapped in a pocket even though it looks like it's intact now my guess is that when they exploded the second part of the building that it collapsed down on top of the supra and crushed it.
There’s a white heavily crushed white car. Could it be our Supra?
@@jeffostroff There is a video from July on #Mr.Showcars that looks like most of the cars pulled out of the rubble.
ruclips.net/video/WmfGGj-P9lU/видео.html. This is the supra that was the one we were looking for in the pictures.
I doubt they pulled any cars before they demolished the rest of the building on the 4th of July. The crews were really busy with search and recovery.
Piling the rubble right next to a major airport is an efficient way to permanently prohibit drone overflights by nosey youtubers as it's controlled airspace - and some airports are deploying various kinds of drone detection/tracking technology for potential prosecution of offenders.
Wow, how could they detect drones? I would think you can just have it fly 8 feet off the ground, over the fence, and you're in
@@jeffostroff MIA is under increased surveillance right now because of record #'s of _douche-nozzles_ trying to blind pilots with lasers in that locale! Not sure if someone like that should get LIFE in prison for attempted mass murder... or just be turned into Soylent Green! In any event, not sure anything you could capture on a drone is worth the risk--to you or the planes. There's a TON of RF generators at a major airport (ILS landing systems, navaids, etc.), if something makes your drone "go off the leash", and it gets sucked into a jet engine, you can bet the looooong arm of The Feds will reach out for you!...
OTOH, da place is guarded by Miami-Dade PD... a few free sandwiches and brewskis, and they'd probably let you hike all over the rubble for half a day... just bring your own hardhat for "cover"... (see what I did there?... ;')
@@jeffostroff most drones wont even fly in that airspace. the more logical reason they put the debris there is because airports are built in remote unpopulated areas and that's what nist needed.
@@jeffostroff new drones are required to have remote id
@@MajorCaliber ... you'd be amazed at what you can pull off by looking official and wearing a name tag from some insurance company. Just find the gate and drive a non-descript rental car while having a good line of shit.... you're in! (or at least talking with someone who might answer questions)
Thanks Jeff! (Someone needs to do it.)
Glad to be there to do it!
WOW! So VERY sad to see, knowing where these cars came from and how they were smashed!
Sure is strange the way they are placed though. Some of the cars seem to be, maybe, where they were in the garage.
Hopefully, this will help NIST with their investigation.
The other "mystery pile" may be K rails... at least that is what they look like.
You have done a wonderful job with your documentation.
I really like your postings and "Building Engineering"'s posts You both have done a great, relatively un-biased documentation with great explanations, NOT based on false theories.
Thank You!
Thanks for watching and glad to hear you liked it
Too sad. Too sad
yes it is haunting seeing the cars
Sad to realize that a lot of these mangled cars belong to the deceased, maybe one of the few or only remnants left of their lives in that building which for most was their home.
I would be willing to bet that Tesla stores data collected by their cars and could locate any vehicles active and located at the site. It might take a court order to get them to make any video available but NIST shouldn't have any problem getting it if it exists. It's certainly worth looking into. Another path to explore is DMV registration records for Teslas listing the site as the owner's address.
Would it be possible to have the name of the music being played at the 6.30 mark and onwards?Thanks!
It's called audioblocks-sad-piano-cello-and-violin_Hfo-uKr8B from Storyblocks.com. where I buy royalty free music via subscript on
@@jeffostroff Thanks! I'm going to listen to it until I get sick of listening to it a hundred times.
R.I.P to the ones in cars.
From what we no, there were no bodies in cars
Good that NIST is going through EVERYTHING. Hopefully some people’s valuables survived and can be returned to them.
Some already have been returned
So so freaking sad to see
Yes very haunting to see these cars. I hope no one was in any of them, I doubt there would be at 1:22 in the morning.
Some of those you can't even tell what make/model they are.
@8:00 The wheels resemble a Tesla's... The sure way to tell is if there is an exhaust pipe...
I know, not even sure if they ARE cars.
I took a screenshot and zoomed. Teslas have different kind of wheels, so this is not indicative. The telltale sign it's not a Tesla is the door handle. Those are always the same.
I have a Tesla, and we can record anything around the car if the cameras have been set to Sentry Mode to record. The amount of storage depends on the USB device that an owner uses in the car. It will only begin recording if there is detection of activity around the car. My USB is 128Mb which stores almost unlimited amount of activity during a month. I receive a notification on my Tesla app and on the dashboard of the car when there is activity. I can then view that activity through the viewer in the car, my app, or by plugging the USB into a computer. Clips of activity are listed just like any other files.
Am I the only person that has saved a compilation of the best videos that follow this tragedy? I'm hoping to follow and save a compilation until the investigation is complete.
I don't think the cars are set in a way that resembled where they were in the garage. The black Chevy truck we all know was not in the garage, it was in the ground level spot by the lobby entrance and was barely damaged but did fall down a level. It ended up like you see it now because they didn't remove the cars from any of the unstable ground parking before they demo'd the rest of the building. I think all the cars were just placed in a neat grid for inspection and some are missing as the insurance companies write them off they then get hauled to the scrap yards.
Every time I see the collapse video I feel very sad for that last section, people had seconds to realize they where cooked. You know some where woke up
Yes it was very errie
O.m.golly. that's nuts
There were more cars there in August too
They do look like they're laid out in the spots where they were parked. Now they need to paint weather proof lines of the parking spaces and number the spaces the best they can according to the floor plans.
Jeff, please address how they could remove any car from the underground area since the ramp was buried under the collapsed building.
As the debris was cleared on the condo collapse site, cranes were used to strap around the cars and lift them up and out onto the road onto flatbed trucks who carted them away, sometimes they stacked two cars on top of the trucks
Your camera takes amazing photos 👍👍 buy the size of those piles it looks like it will be a while
I think I saw an earlier video with many more crushed cars dumped there and all placed close together. I could be mistaken, but it looks like many have been removed.
Yes in July there was a video made I don't know what happened with the cars but we do know they at least spread out the cars so maybe that could be part of the illusion
Tip: you should get a drone next time so you don't have to worry about the posted trespass warnings.
It's right next to an airport runway, probably not allowed
@@jeffostroff Absolutely not allowed! If you try to fly a drone that close to the airport you could get locked up for years and we would never know what happened at CTS.....
All the people complaining about why it took so long to find everyone or how they didn't find more people alive need to look at this. This is what happened to multi-ton chunks of steel. What do you think happened to the people? So sad.
Yes I knew day one they would not find others, it pancaked too flat
Could you add the music credits to your description above? I did try looking through other comments to see if you had answered someone to identify it, but scrolling through all of them and the replies is effort that could be headed off with that. Thanks so much!
Good point about the Tesla’s though I did not see any charging stations in the garage video. That doesn’t give me all that much hope that someone had one there
Good point!
I saw a Model S in the garage walkthrough video of that prospective appartment buyer. If one was in the garage during the collapse, it would only have recorded video, if sentinel mode was on (this eats a bit of battery power, so you might not want to turn it on when the car is parked in a seemingly secure area), and it would only actually store video from a short time before a trigger event until some time afterwards. A trigger event would be a movement near or inside the car or an impact on the car. In case of the collapse, debris falling near or onto the car would have triggered a recording. If the actual collapse would have triggered a recording and if the main computer kept running long enough afterwards to save the video file to the USB drive, there would be a recording.
@Klaus Kaiser I said the same under another comment. There was a Tesla Model S in the Fiorella Terenzi video of the underground garage. And the autopilot cameras would have recorded if something fell on the car (it would be perceived as a collision). Tesla has a record of the autopilot recordings.
There was no need for a charging station. Any 110 volt outlet could be used (Tesla provides two plugs, one with an adapter), or the driver could use any of the Tesla and generic charging stations that are all over the place.
So sad. And like these cars, their owners may also be dead. Thank you for keeping up with this.
Glad to help scott
Riveting. However, I note that there’s a smaller number of cars in the holding yard vs. what was in the garage. A bunch of cars (see final vid shots) that were little or unscathed. Where are these? Already scrapped? Piles of building - what is left of the building of lives. Horrible
Yes I had noticed that even though they're spread out and it probably looks like there's less I'm sure there probably are fewer cars but I can't imagine after bringing them over here they would have given them back to the owners they are still being considered evidence so I don't know what happened to them. Also where's all the burnt cars?
I wonder if these cars are merely just waiting for each owner’s insurance adjusters to come out and confirm the claims on them that yes they were really parked under CTS and destroyed. There seems to be a few spots where cars were dragged out and not a whole lot left.
…aside from NIST evidence
Yes, as NIST evidence it could take years to get them back but who would want them
PSSSssst!... Jeff, get your RE Agent GF to give you a tour of CT-North... dying to see if Allyn Kilsheimer & Co. did any *temporary shoring* in there! (There's actually *3* units currently listed for sale in CTN... ;')
We did that. The security/maintenance manager was watching me on camera, saw me roaming the halls on camera after I found the unit that Allyn Kilsheimer was working in. The security guy was really mean and pushy, told me we could not be there looking at the empty unit we went to see, without the owner there. Their real estate agent left a lockbox for us. The security guy said he was going to cut off, said he has my license plate number, said he was going to call the police, then call legal, blah blah, blowing a lot of hot air at us. Would not let us tour the rest of the building without the owner.
@@jeffostroff I think he was just hitting up your RE Agent for a $20 "donation"... and she failed to pony up... of course she has to include her business card, to show that she's not paying a "referral fee" that he "never asked for"... corruption never sleeps in Miami-Dade... ;')
10:51 that one on the right. That looks like a hot tar trailer, like roofers use. The building was having roof work done.
4:40ish that layout looks like a paintball arena.
Many of the cars are missing if you go back and look at video that MDPD did in July. Estelle Hadaya had just bought a red Lexus 300 on June 16th. I believe insurance probably claimed the cars that still had liens on them to pay off. So very sad though. Excellent still photos.
If you find a link to that video, please let me know
@@jeffostroff go to #Mr.Showcars RUclips page. 2 videos.
@@jeffostroff did you see my comment?
You can see Estelle's car at 8:58. The wheels match the car on her IG.
@@broophl thank you.