Look at that beautiful snap of the wrist just prior to striking the ball at 4:07. The racket accelerates from the initial lag position during this time.
@@ajollypanda4175 you need glasses. Also look at Dimitrov s forehand in slow motion. He is not making contact with the ball with the the wrist in complete lag. The racket is accelerating relative to the wrist Before the contact.
Why does coach Ricky maci talk about the letter c shaped on all his u tube videos when he is supposed to be a leader in our tennis community I very deeply disappointed no one speaks up about this, thanks I really appreciate all your hard work with your truth
There is a reason US tennis has underachieved for twenty years. USTA influence is one of them, as well as a high school and college system more about winning meets for the school than about player development.
Is windscreen wiper done on purpouse (meaning tennis player thinks about it and rotates arm on purpose) or is it an effect of loosen wrist that then pulls an arm after ball contact?
The key is loosening the hand. If your grip is tight, your entire arm is tight. make a tight fist and see what it does all the way to the shoulder, and even down that side of your back. On a scale of one to ten, grip stength on the racket handle should be about a two.
Looks like his grip is western like novak and that's why his arm is bent on contact...can't straighten due to the grip...like Novak ...but the take back is different to novak ..in the unit turn novaks left arm goes way back and the tip of the racquet is pointing up with strings pointing to back fence...from the end clip where he is wearing a blue hat it looks like if he keeps his eyes on the point of contact longer ..like fed...and focus on through the point of contact...and and drives through the ball a bit longer before his wrist snaps into windscreen wiper...he'll get more plough through and cleaner contact
Grip is standard semi-western. Index knuckle is directly on bevel 4. Novak is partway between Western and Semi-western, on the edge between the bevels.
It is not a western, it is a semi-western as his knuckle is on the 4th bevel. You could say a strong semi as it maybe a little more than 4. I stood 5 feet from hitting in Indian Wells and it was pretty clear. Sock and Khachanov have full westerns and there is an obvious difference to Sinner.
How dos Sinner's game differ from Djokovic's? Appears to be same FH, same BH, same tactics. Same thing for Rune. These guys play a mostly defensive oriented topspin-heavy baseline game and attack on a weak ball. At least Ben Shelton does some serious S + V at times and hits a flatter ball. Just as Tracy Austin copied Chris Evert's game 40 years ago Sinner seems to be playing a carbon copy of the Djocovic game.
It's probably the playstyle that's being pushed on players from a young age by coaches. A recipe for success, i guess, but it is fucking boring with the lack of variation.
@@hehehehehahahaha2025 you got that right - we have cookie cutter grips and swings and tactics - I can't stand this ... thank God for vintage matches ... let's not forget that all the fist pumps even look alike every game they are pumping not even after just a set win
In many ways his game differs. If you look at Sinners tactics vs Medvedev it was completely different. He came into the net a lot. They adapt according to the other players game style. Sinner started bringing in a lot more volleys in this year. I spoke to a coach at my club and he says Americans train a different game style than the Europeans. In regards to technique of the shots Sinner and Djokovic couldn’t be more different. Sinners has a very unique forehand technique. The new rackets and strings and fitness level of the current pros are on another level compared to 20-30 years ago. Those rackets couldn’t produce the same power and speed. That reduces the reaction times a lot and harder on volleys. I watched some Becker vs Sampras and it was noticeable and noticeable certain shots they didn’t even attempt to chase down where current players would get or go for. One can also see the players dont have the same athleticism. The speed of the ATP final courts make it very hard to craft some of the point that normally would. You loose split seconds which I think is hard to adjust to. I was hitting some balls against a local pro coach and it must have been the fastest balls I ever hit against and I had so little preparation time. Made me realize how tough it can be at that speed and then times X that for pros. I watch tournaments throughout the whole year. It was good year for tennis. Volleys are back much more. Guys like Shelton who have good slice use it more often. Slice is a defensive shot just to give yourself more time. It rarely make the other guys make mistakes on their level. At the end TV doesnt really do their playing justice. You sit at US Open and you cant actually believe how much faster it all happens. Mind blowing. Even WTA players. Lastly playing a match can easily be playing 180+ points. Its hard to make every play so special. Matches are won by 2-5 point many times, so consistency becomes keys for these guys. Back in the day players like Sampras and Becker would come to net every serve. Not much tactics. Todays players would just crush those tactics these days at the net. If every point was that predictable. The players of those days also played amazing points like today and I am sure there were many boring matches those days. We just tended to watch finals and semis.
Shelton has changed his forhand technique this season to cut down on the horrendous errors that have cost him matches. That long, flat swing takes too much time against ATP players, an if it's late to the ball it lacks headspeed and spin, thus losing control of the ball. (Serena Williams found out the same thing as she got older and the competition got better. That boring Naomi Osaka forehand rushed her over and over again, and long errors were the result.) Federer--that's right, Federer--had to shorten his forehand to stay competitive with the top guys. And a 2800 rpm. 80 mph ball is not a defensive shot, any more than a split-fingered fastball is.
@@bournejason66 No way! Just look at the first still image in the beginning of the video, Sinner is holding the racquet with the semi-western grip. For the western grip, check the videos of Iga Swiatek.
@@bournejason66 You are blind. Look at the grip at 3:59, his index finger knuckle is exactly at the bottom, it is standard SW. Nothing to do with Western G. Also confirmed by this: (google search) Jannik Sinner Forehand Analysis (google search) wikipedia
Most clear, precise and detailed explanation and analysis I have seen.
I feel myself improving just watching your videos.
Oh no! He’s drawing lines! 😱😂
Great analysis, Very good video!
Look at that beautiful snap of the wrist just prior to striking the ball at 4:07. The racket accelerates from the initial lag position during this time.
Do not snap your wrist…he isn’t
@@ajollypanda4175 you need glasses. Also look at Dimitrov s forehand in slow motion. He is not making contact with the ball with the the wrist in complete lag. The racket is accelerating relative to the wrist Before the contact.
@@jflow5601 It's not from "snapping" the wrist. It's more like a bounce or rebound from the energy being put through the arm.
@@ared18t snap, bounce, whip, flexion, whatever. The racket head is accelerating to catch up with the wrist at contact.
Thanks, Vincent! Which grip is he using? Is it western or semi-western?
I think that's a semi-western grip.
I think that's a semi- western grip.
Strong semi western
Brilliant breakdown
Thanks, helpful.
Why does coach Ricky maci talk about the letter c shaped on all his u tube videos when he is supposed to be a leader in our tennis community I very deeply disappointed no one speaks up about this, thanks I really appreciate all your hard work with your truth
Ricky Maci is (half) old school.
There is a reason US tennis has underachieved for twenty years. USTA influence is one of them, as well as a high school and college system more about winning meets for the school than about player development.
Is windscreen wiper done on purpouse (meaning tennis player thinks about it and rotates arm on purpose) or is it an effect of loosen wrist that then pulls an arm after ball contact?
Awesome breakdown 🎉
The most critical is how he comes into the forward swing or unloading...i see it as a slight push
Any tip on kepping the wrist loose and relaxed at contact w the ball. I just realized my wrist is too tight and too controlling… great video thanks
try only using three fingers to hold the racquet to get a feel first on how not to hold the racquet too tightly.
The key is loosening the hand. If your grip is tight, your entire arm is tight. make a tight fist and see what it does all the way to the shoulder, and even down that side of your back. On a scale of one to ten, grip stength on the racket handle should be about a two.
Looks like his grip is western like novak and that's why his arm is bent on contact...can't straighten due to the grip...like Novak ...but the take back is different to novak
..in the unit turn novaks left arm goes way back and the tip of the racquet is pointing up with strings pointing to back fence...from the end clip where he is wearing a blue hat it looks like if he keeps his eyes on the point of contact longer ..like fed...and focus on through the point of contact...and and drives through the ball a bit longer before his wrist snaps into windscreen wiper...he'll get more plough through and cleaner contact
Grip is standard semi-western. Index knuckle is directly on bevel 4. Novak is partway between Western and Semi-western, on the edge between the bevels.
text book semi-western grip
6:46 His eyes seemly were NOT looking at the ball when hitting!
Excellent analysis, but Please stop saying, “‘kay"! It’s super irritating. Thanks, really great video otherwise.
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Thx doc
Looks semi-western. Agree/disagree?
In the 3rd video, it looks full western.
@@adamh8433 textbook western
Exactly. It’s past SW. almost full western
It's western ...that's why his elbow can't straighten at contact...due to the grip...like novak
It is not a western, it is a semi-western as his knuckle is on the 4th bevel. You could say a strong semi as it maybe a little more than 4. I stood 5 feet from hitting in Indian Wells and it was pretty clear. Sock and Khachanov have full westerns and there is an obvious difference to Sinner.
Is it ok to have the racquet head lower than the wrist at contact ?
that should always be the case, look at 6:46
How dos Sinner's game differ from Djokovic's? Appears to be same FH, same BH, same tactics. Same thing for Rune. These guys play a mostly defensive oriented topspin-heavy baseline game and attack on a weak ball. At least Ben Shelton does some serious S + V at times and hits a flatter ball. Just as Tracy Austin copied Chris Evert's game 40 years ago Sinner seems to be playing a carbon copy of the Djocovic game.
It's probably the playstyle that's being pushed on players from a young age by coaches. A recipe for success, i guess, but it is fucking boring with the lack of variation.
@@hehehehehahahaha2025 you got that right - we have cookie cutter grips and swings and tactics - I can't stand this ... thank God for vintage matches ... let's not forget that all the fist pumps even look alike every game they are pumping not even after just a set win
In many ways his game differs. If you look at Sinners tactics vs Medvedev it was completely different. He came into the net a lot. They adapt according to the other players game style. Sinner started bringing in a lot more volleys in this year. I spoke to a coach at my club and he says Americans train a different game style than the Europeans. In regards to technique of the shots Sinner and Djokovic couldn’t be more different. Sinners has a very unique forehand technique. The new rackets and strings and fitness level of the current pros are on another level compared to 20-30 years ago. Those rackets couldn’t produce the same power and speed. That reduces the reaction times a lot and harder on volleys. I watched some Becker vs Sampras and it was noticeable and noticeable certain shots they didn’t even attempt to chase down where current players would get or go for. One can also see the players dont have the same athleticism. The speed of the ATP final courts make it very hard to craft some of the point that normally would. You loose split seconds which I think is hard to adjust to. I was hitting some balls against a local pro coach and it must have been the fastest balls I ever hit against and I had so little preparation time. Made me realize how tough it can be at that speed and then times X that for pros. I watch tournaments throughout the whole year. It was good year for tennis. Volleys are back much more. Guys like Shelton who have good slice use it more often. Slice is a defensive shot just to give yourself more time. It rarely make the other guys make mistakes on their level. At the end TV doesnt really do their playing justice. You sit at US Open and you cant actually believe how much faster it all happens. Mind blowing. Even WTA players. Lastly playing a match can easily be playing 180+ points. Its hard to make every play so special. Matches are won by 2-5 point many times, so consistency becomes keys for these guys. Back in the day players like Sampras and Becker would come to net every serve. Not much tactics. Todays players would just crush those tactics these days at the net. If every point was that predictable. The players of those days also played amazing points like today and I am sure there were many boring matches those days. We just tended to watch finals and semis.
Shelton has changed his forhand technique this season to cut down on the horrendous errors that have cost him matches. That long, flat swing takes too much time against ATP players, an if it's late to the ball it lacks headspeed and spin, thus losing control of the ball. (Serena Williams found out the same thing as she got older and the competition got better. That boring Naomi Osaka forehand rushed her over and over again, and long errors were the result.) Federer--that's right, Federer--had to shorten his forehand to stay competitive with the top guys. And a 2800 rpm. 80 mph ball is not a defensive shot, any more than a split-fingered fastball is.
Vince please please do his majesty Fed🙏
not so much for massive power..., ... the racket forward is setting up the "Swivel " for an
ATP backswing, that optimizes the lag into "slot entry".
Western grip ?
semi western for sure
Definitely not semi western. It’s past SW and very close to full western
@@bournejason66 No way! Just look at the first still image in the beginning of the video, Sinner is holding the racquet with the semi-western grip. For the western grip, check the videos of Iga Swiatek.
@@strongbrain3128 nah.. if you look at the last image after contact, his index finger knuckle is past bevel 4. It’s in between SW and full western
@@bournejason66 You are blind. Look at the grip at 3:59, his index finger knuckle is exactly at the bottom, it is standard SW. Nothing to do with Western G.
Also confirmed by this:
(google search) Jannik Sinner Forehand Analysis
(google search) wikipedia
It's "tap the dog", not "pat the dog".
don't say "boom" when it means nothing, ok?