I wouldn't be surprised if this was rigged. There's a whole lot of benefit to having the team in the largest media market win the championship right when people are beginning to care.
It's a good point, but I don't think the WNBA is quite there yet. Even with a title, nobody cares if Caitlin Clark isn't involved. It's not like the championship parade is going to have them lining the streets in Manhattan. They might get Rockefeller Plaza half full or something. Give it ten years, then maybe.
@@VinceLyle2161 but that's precisely why they would do this. They have to somehow translate the CC hype into other markets, and having the biggest market win is the quickest way to do it. They're trying to make people care
@@thezackast2752 No, I get what you're saying. I just don't think it's going to work. The drama from Cheryl Reeve definitely isn't helping. Angry lesbians hating on each other is pretty dull at this point.
This needs to be investigated on a national stage & accountability with the referees present & confronted with the hard questions!!! Like why didn’t you overturn the obvious NO CALL ??
The game shouldn't be in ot. Lynx should won in regulation. They were diflated on that call. They are foul trouble you cannot be physical. Blow after blow whistle againts them how can you defend if the ref is not fair. The game was dictated by official and if you watch it closely the lynx were robbed.
@@TF-vb9usna, NY wasn’t supposed to lose game 1( refs still tried & ignored BS out of bounds). When they did lose that the refs went to work in G2. G3 the refs helped NY stay close & close a 12point lead (for ratings they wanted a close game). G4 they said “ok let’s finally give the Lynx some calls at home, ny are already up 2-1. Then G5 they said “no matter how bad ny plays & chokes we will carry u over the Iine”
It still is going down as one of the worst performances by their stars and even worse the refs fixed it so NY could win. A total sham. An embarrassment for the W. I think Minnesota should have a parade celebrating a victory and championship that was unfairly stolen.
2:10 "Both teams shot a terrible 5 for 42" from behind the arc. This was THE championship game, I'm glad I didn't even know it was happening. This looks like a bad local rec league, nowhere near a professional or even entertaining product. Thanks for the update, most of us would never have known otherwise.
Dude, nothing yoy mention that happened in OT counts. Kinda the whole point of this was the Lynx won this on regulation, until the refs decided otherwise. So ant mention of OT does not matter. It shouldn't have went to OT. End of discussion
I, like everybody else am still waiting to see that foul on Stewart. That was a terrible call, there was no foul. But what no one has said, Brianna Stewart on that shot was up and down, she jumped, came down to the floor with the ball then took the shot and that wasn’t called…and none of the sporting experts commenting on the play have mentioned this.
This league is completely corrupt and tied to bookmakers! Remember the last final, when the Liberty gave the last game to Las Vegas, which without key players simply could not beat New York - then in the second half they simply let Kayla George throw away open three-pointers, who didn’t even WNBA level! Remember how Lynx, having won the Commissioners' Cup this year, then lost to Dallas, accelerating the odds to the maximum in the first quarter!
If they have to investigate this then they can investigate the entirety of game 4, and void game 5 and give the ring to the Liberty in Minnesota instead.
Not only apparently rigged, the dress is a big red flag unless she had an alternative, but the real problem about calls in the WNBA in general is that their gameplay is messy AF all the time. Hard to watch.
“I’m a Liberty fan, and even though no WNBA team has ever won a championship deciding game with that big of a free throw disparity with that much lower of a fg%, even though Napheesa Collier hasn’t fouled out since May 2023, and even though she got hacked in the post with a historic ZERO free throws on 23 shot attempts…it was definitely fair!!!”
...so Lynx also now knew everything in advance who should win, that’s why they played like that in OT, but now they’re just inflating it like they’re honest! No one here is honest!
If the refs are the reason you lost the game, you deserve it. The refs don’t shoot for you, they don’t rebound for you and they don’t couch you. Blame the refs for 1 mistake means there are 20 mistakes you don’t want to adress on your own responsibility.
Exactly! Nobody want to talk about how bad they played , people continue to make excuses by saying it was rigged because of the refs. people who really watch sports know how important home court advantage have played a part throughout the years in sports and what it means and how it impact games just like it did with game 4.
I mean, the refs are incompetent, but it's something that's kind of baked in at this point. You have to go into a game thinking these horrible calls will kind of even out in the long run.
It just seems like sour grapes by the coach, but maybe she did it to lessen the agony for her team of only scoring 2 points in o.t. Game 3 hero Ionescu may have to look into why she was so bad in that game... wth happened ? Based on the score, both teams performances were underwhelming.... physically exhausted ? Overall officiating was deemed subpar by some/many? sports analysts. I seem to remember guard John Starks of the NY Knicks had a horrendous shooting performance in Game 7 that contributed to their loss in a '95? finals against Houston.
My thing has always been that when people complain about stuff like this. Their team always played poorly in aspects and thus the score reflects that. If Sabrina had not choked and the team played better they would've won regardless.
@@Sammy_Lonestar Napheesa literally grabbed Stewies whole body and threw her to the ground and it was called a jump ball. You should talk about how the Lynx couldn't contend with the Liberty only putting up 7 in overtime.
short memory....look at gem 1 and 4. .....fouls given and a player finishing with 1 foul in game 4....see you next year Reeves if you make it to the F4 again
I"m glad I didn't waste my valuable retirement time watching the playoffs. No Clark? I'm not watching. The rest of the league can peddle their poison to someone else.
They reviewed the play and could see there was no foul so they made up an excuse , saying the defender wasn’t in legal position, but that was clearly a lie.
Y'all crying about one foul and shat the bed in OT, but it was "rigged"? Please stop whining Lynx fans! There were bad calls on both sides all series long. I bet you did not cry when in game 4 they called a foul (one that won with 2 seconds left at the line). You should wonder why the Lynx failed to show up in OT in the deciding game! They were a smaller team and got away with more physical play in this series. Both teams got screwed by calls. Sabrina boxing out in game 4 called for a foul after a Lynx player jumped over her back was str8 bullcrap. It ended up winning the game at the FT line. The Lynx had FIVE OT minutes to regroup and they didnt. As a sports fan I know that the discrepancy was not bad enough to claim they were "robbed" as your coach claims.. So cry all you want, THE LYNX LOST!!!!!
wnba needs to investigate this? they were in on it
Right, that's like the Police Department conducts an investigation on the Police Department.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was rigged. There's a whole lot of benefit to having the team in the largest media market win the championship right when people are beginning to care.
It's a good point, but I don't think the WNBA is quite there yet. Even with a title, nobody cares if Caitlin Clark isn't involved. It's not like the championship parade is going to have them lining the streets in Manhattan. They might get Rockefeller Plaza half full or something.
Give it ten years, then maybe.
@@VinceLyle2161 but that's precisely why they would do this. They have to somehow translate the CC hype into other markets, and having the biggest market win is the quickest way to do it. They're trying to make people care
@@thezackast2752 No, I get what you're saying. I just don't think it's going to work. The drama from Cheryl Reeve definitely isn't helping. Angry lesbians hating on each other is pretty dull at this point.
@@VinceLyle2161Your bias against women has affected your sports analysis capabilities.
@@ubermenchlicheman Yes, it's definitely made them a lot sharper.
Jeez, that "move" needs a name, the "Brianna shuffle," "Stewart Mamba", idk, I am open to ideas, but she took more steps than a flights of stairs.
I'm done, No more WNBA.
This needs to be investigated on a national stage & accountability with the referees present & confronted with the hard questions!!! Like why didn’t you overturn the obvious NO CALL ??
With sports betting being legal, the government needs to look into this
Right, those incorruptible paragons of virtue and evenhandedness...
@VinceLyle2161 Yeah, our elected officials, whose salary is paid with tax dollars, and somehow, they become multimillionaires. Those people.
On that particular play, Stewart traveled and she was not fouled.
The officials were going to call a foul on that play it seemed, no matter what.
it definetly felt scripted
They didn’t even TRY TO SELL IT!!!
It only feels scripted to the haters.
@HannahDisponett you obviously didn't watch the game. Now stop hating on the truth
@@SuperDB43 I watched...now quit because you're mad your ghe++o Lynx lost
@@SuperDB43 I watched the game...quit hating because your team lost
The game shouldn't be in ot. Lynx should won in regulation. They were diflated on that call. They are foul trouble you cannot be physical. Blow after blow whistle againts them how can you defend if the ref is not fair. The game was dictated by official and if you watch it closely the lynx were robbed.
a championship they were handed by the refs
Shabby performance indeed?
Like game 4 was handed to the Lynx. Game 5 didn't even need to happen.
Liberty won the title in game 4 but y’all ain’t ready to deal with that fact huh 😂
@@TF-vb9usna, NY wasn’t supposed to lose game 1( refs still tried & ignored BS out of bounds). When they did lose that the refs went to work in G2. G3 the refs helped NY stay close & close a 12point lead (for ratings they wanted a close game). G4 they said “ok let’s finally give the Lynx some calls at home, ny are already up 2-1. Then G5 they said “no matter how bad ny plays & chokes we will carry u over the
Iine”
No more WNBA for me, stupid refs, stupid commissioner, fixed outcome, no credibility, no honesty, nope, no more WNBA!
It still is going down as one of the worst performances by their stars and even worse the refs fixed it so NY could win. A total sham. An embarrassment for the W. I think Minnesota should have a parade celebrating a victory and championship that was unfairly stolen.
2:10 "Both teams shot a terrible 5 for 42" from behind the arc. This was THE championship game, I'm glad I didn't even know it was happening. This looks like a bad local rec league, nowhere near a professional or even entertaining product. Thanks for the update, most of us would never have known otherwise.
Remember the wnba is expected to lose 50million this year.
28 seasons and its never been profitable.
Half of those were from Sabrina so maybe it isn’t that bad
Dude, nothing yoy mention that happened in OT counts. Kinda the whole point of this was the Lynx won this on regulation, until the refs decided otherwise. So ant mention of OT does not matter. It shouldn't have went to OT. End of discussion
Joke league, joke admins, joke refs.
A travel no call with no foul.. that's why I don't watch WNBA
That happens in other Leagues too.
I, like everybody else am still waiting to see that foul on Stewart. That was a terrible call, there was no foul. But what no one has said, Brianna Stewart on that shot was up and down, she jumped, came down to the floor with the ball then took the shot and that wasn’t called…and none of the sporting experts commenting on the play have mentioned this.
Robbery
Check the free throw splits on game four.
Liberty won in 4
This league is completely corrupt and tied to bookmakers! Remember the last final, when the Liberty gave the last game to Las Vegas, which without key players simply could not beat New York - then in the second half they simply let Kayla George throw away open three-pointers, who didn’t even WNBA level! Remember how Lynx, having won the Commissioners' Cup this year, then lost to Dallas, accelerating the odds to the maximum in the first quarter!
If they have to investigate this then they can investigate the entirety of game 4, and void game 5 and give the ring to the Liberty in Minnesota instead.
If anything game 4 officiating cancels at game 3 lmao
Not only apparently rigged, the dress is a big red flag unless she had an alternative, but the real problem about calls in the WNBA in general is that their gameplay is messy AF all the time. Hard to watch.
I’m pissed phee and lynx lost! Won’t get over this one for long time
I was there live at Barclays Center. Lynx had made alot of fouls on the Liberty that the refs didn' call. Knock it off. Liberty won clean!
And you are a lier and a idiot.
“I’m a Liberty fan, and even though no WNBA team has ever won a championship deciding game with that big of a free throw disparity with that much lower of a fg%, even though Napheesa Collier hasn’t fouled out since May 2023, and even though she got hacked in the post with a historic ZERO free throws on 23 shot attempts…it was definitely fair!!!”
How can fix your mouth and say it's fair down the stretch that a traveling call wasn't called before she even took the shot.
american sports that are monopolies and franchises fail upwards arent real competitions....??! no way.
wnba needs to investigate this? why don't they investigate all they did to CC ? and this coach is on top of the list
Liberty won the title in 4 games but the refs stole it from them so there was a game 5
NY feels bad they got handed the game in NY bookie territory 😢
Maybe the league should investigate why the Lynx played so poorly in OT.
There wouldn't be OT if New York Refs didn't show up 🤣🤣
Good luck against the Yankees. This all NY World Series is going to be epic.
**checks notes**
My bad. Maybe next year.
@xiffy1881 Maybe if Courtney Williams showed up (4pts).
@isthatyoursomnomnom I guess I should blame the umpires for Mets losing the NLCS. That's how it's done, right?
@@eganias Mets aren't that good 🤣
The FBI actually investigates this kind of thing.
A blocking foul was called nothing to do with touch foul or phantom call.
...so Lynx also now knew everything in advance who should win, that’s why they played like that in OT, but now they’re just inflating it like they’re honest! No one here is honest!
If the refs are the reason you lost the game, you deserve it. The refs don’t shoot for you, they don’t rebound for you and they don’t couch you. Blame the refs for 1 mistake means there are 20 mistakes you don’t want to adress on your own responsibility.
Exactly! Nobody want to talk about how bad they played , people continue to make excuses by saying it was rigged because of the refs. people who really watch sports know how important home court advantage have played a part throughout the years in sports and what it means and how it impact games just like it did with game 4.
I mean, the refs are incompetent, but it's something that's kind of baked in at this point. You have to go into a game thinking these horrible calls will kind of even out in the long run.
Did they investigate all they did to CC or ?????? She can cry forever
You know I don't blame Clarke for playing in Europe, so many bad players , officiating is garbage so much personal drama I am not watching anymore
after watching caitlin clark play, they all look like a bunch of amateurs. geez.
RIGGED!
It just seems like sour grapes by the coach, but maybe she did it to lessen the agony for her team of only scoring 2 points in o.t.
Game 3 hero Ionescu may have to look into why she was so bad in that game...
wth happened ? Based on the score, both teams performances were underwhelming.... physically exhausted ?
Overall officiating was deemed subpar by some/many? sports analysts.
I seem to remember guard John Starks of the NY Knicks had a horrendous shooting performance in Game 7 that contributed to their loss in a '95? finals against Houston.
I smell a new york rat
My thing has always been that when people complain about stuff like this. Their team always played poorly in aspects and thus the score reflects that. If Sabrina had not choked and the team played better they would've won regardless.
Game 4 too! Almost the same shit was done to the Liberty in game 4!!!
Not even in he same realm. The fouls they called were actual fouls and the didn’t miss many on the other end.
There’s a reason nobody was talking about game 4 calls. There a bigger reason why everybody is talking about game 5.
@@Sammy_Lonestar Napheesa literally grabbed Stewies whole body and threw her to the ground and it was called a jump ball. You should talk about how the Lynx couldn't contend with the Liberty only putting up 7 in overtime.
@@yungtwiz it’s called momentum switch when you thought you were gonna win and then the ref and league rob u by making a horrendous call lol
@@Sammy_Lonestar the Lynx momentum switched when they decided to play like losers in OT. Same thing happened to the Liberty in game 1.
LOL!! Lebron is one to talk about this.
Bring what on 🤔 It’s a sloppy game but it’s entertaining. Ask the bookies why the refs were on NY team. 8 against 5.
IF MCBRIDE COVERED THE IN PASS WOULD HAVE RAN THE CLOCK DOWN.
You now how you win is make more shots then the other team right?
Go Liberty!
This was just a badly played game by both teams.
Lynx lost in OT. What happened? They fell flat in overtime. Better luck next year Minnesota Stynx
ecxactly why don't they score during the OT
No comment.
Liberty won in 4.
Get bodied 😂
of course they won game 4 but WNBA want ot get lot of attandance and money so
short memory....look at gem 1 and 4. .....fouls given and a player finishing with 1 foul in game 4....see you next year Reeves if you make it to the F4 again
NO one notice that but we Liberty fans can see it
RUclips. Weds to get rid of crap accounts like this one
Let’s go New York!!!
I"m glad I didn't waste my valuable retirement time watching the playoffs. No Clark? I'm not watching. The rest of the league can peddle their poison to someone else.
1:15 why phantom call? defender clearly moves her arms up front.
Because they clearly never touched Stewart
They reviewed the play and could see there was no foul so they made up an excuse , saying the defender wasn’t in legal position, but that was clearly a lie.
@@thezackast2752 looks to me like she did. at least from what is shown in this video
@@thezackast2752smiths feet were moving and she touched stews arm.
Get. Over. It . 😂
lmaooo. you got owned and lost. sit down and own it.
Typical NY fan, oblivious to everything but their dirty teams 🤣🤣
They won’t 😂
They couldn’t hang with the worst game NY ever played and now cry about a foul.
Owned. See you next season, Crynx
Y'all crying about one foul and shat the bed in OT, but it was "rigged"? Please stop whining Lynx fans! There were bad calls on both sides all series long. I bet you did not cry when in game 4 they called a foul (one that won with 2 seconds left at the line). You should wonder why the Lynx failed to show up in OT in the deciding game! They were a smaller team and got away with more physical play in this series. Both teams got screwed by calls. Sabrina boxing out in game 4 called for a foul after a Lynx player jumped over her back was str8 bullcrap. It ended up winning the game at the FT line. The Lynx had FIVE OT minutes to regroup and they didnt. As a sports fan I know that the discrepancy was not bad enough to claim they were "robbed" as your coach claims.. So cry all you want, THE LYNX LOST!!!!!