The Construction industry needs investigating. not only are the things we cut dangerous, the chemicals we spray and use which are pumped into the industry every day are suspect at best.
Much respect for Mick and his colleagues that fought a hard fight to get rid of this toxin. When I was in Vietnam as a USAF ER medic, we got a call on the Crash Network that a plane had gone down and crashed after takeoff. It turned out to be a Cessna Forward Air Control plane that was shoved down due to turbulence from a larger aircraft. When we got to the site, the two pilots were unconscious. We opened the right side door and extricated the copilot and then I got inside and unfastened the pilot's harness. While in there, I felt a lot of heat from the engine and next thing I got blasted by foam from the flight line firetruck. They were foaming down the entire front of the plane and the windshield was blown out from the crash. This was in 1969. In short, I was covered from head to my boots with the foam. No protective gear, just my combat fatigues and a cap. I often wondered if it had an effect years later with my prostate cancer and dozens of skin cancer surgeries. Mix in Agent Orange with it and who knows? BTW, I did enjoy my R&R for a week in Sydney, 1969. I think the Opera House was just being built. The pubs were great! LOL Cheers from Syracuse, NY Bob Powell, CMSgt, USAF(Ret)
I was a RAAF fire Fighter for 22 years, and we washed our trucks with this. We would spray the foam at Xmas time for the kids on ase to slide in, I remember my training film on AFFF, harmless to the body and a guy was washing his arms in it, No Rust to the Vehicles on the film, now we all have cancer, and the RAAF has no comments. We in the RAAF Fire Service used these foams every day for our career, not just in a training course.
I'm ex RAAF and was a CFA volunteer I was in the F111 tanks , I spent 15 years fighting DVA for compensation, now I've spent 9 years trying to get CFA to deal with bullying issues. I joined the RAAF and CFA to protect people, I never realised I would end up trying to protect people from what these groups have been doing
As MTFITT/GSEFITT ( heavy vehicle mechanic) in the RAAF for 27 years I have worked on all types of fire trucks been soaked in AFFF in it's neat form filling foam tanks fixing foam pumps ect, we would shower before we went home and you would stand there for over 1/2 hour to stop foaming before washing then go home I had my test for PFAS done at Williamtown and they are elevated eg. PFOS (perflurooctanesulfonic acid) 19.77ng/ml PFHxS (perfluorohexanesulfonate) 27.59ng/ml god knows what the avgas and avtur have done to my system?? Now 60 and having a lot of health issue who knows.
@@tadrs2 Have you started fighting with DVA yet ? If not start now !!!! Before you get desperate :-( I'm F 111 deseal reseal it took us 35 years and more
10 years as a Firefighter, and then a further six years at a refinery, in charge of the Firefighter training. We would go through tons of AFFF. Now I have to think about my health and the consequences
Awesome Oz Story. What a hard road Mick travelled, people killing his dog and threatening him. But he knew the truth in the facts before him, and stayed the course. And ended up presenting to the United Nations. Keep changing the oil on your car Mick.
Its just sooooo unfair inhumane that the makers of mannnny harmful products are soooo callous n regard only PROFITS. Someone always knows the truth but has no regard to children workers the environment, etc etc.. May alll the wrongs be EXPOSED ..
Doesn't surprise me that CFA dropped the ball on this chemical. I shifted from NSW Rural Fire Service to Victoria. Had resporator training. CFA told me I was to start there training from beginning I told them to get stuffed. Dads Army all from top to bottom.
It's awesome to find a way to remove it from your blood stream but by donating your blood to others aren't you just passing the the problem to the next person??
It stands to reason that the amount of PFAS in blood/plasma would be very low. It would also have to be tested as part of the clinical trial as part of the ethical study process. I remember a study by a manufacturer that was attempted to compare people who worked in PFAS factories blood to the general population who had no PFAS detected because of high levels of health problems. The study couldn't find a sample size of the general population large enough to be scientifically significant without PFAS in their blood. That was many years ago so by now every human on the planet has at least small amounts of PFAS in their body.
So the chemical is still in the blood donated? To use on sick and injuried people? Its a fantastic solution, but please can we not use the blood for others!
The tiny amount of chemical in a single donation poses no risk If it comes to a choice of a tiny amount of PFAS or dying from blood loss I'll chose a small amount of chemicals please
@@D70Dug We are just learning from the US there is no safe level of PFAS in the blood. To donate blood that has higher levels than the average person is the wrong thing to do. By all means, remove blood from firefighters, but do not offer it to others, to circulate it further in the community.
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The Construction industry needs investigating. not only are the things we cut dangerous, the chemicals we spray and use which are pumped into the industry every day are suspect at best.
Much respect for Mick and his colleagues that fought a hard fight to get rid of this toxin. When I was in Vietnam as a USAF ER medic, we got a call on the Crash Network that a plane had gone down and crashed after takeoff. It turned out to be a Cessna Forward Air Control plane that was shoved down due to turbulence from a larger aircraft. When we got to the site, the two pilots were unconscious. We opened the right side door and extricated the copilot and then I got inside and unfastened the pilot's harness. While in there, I felt a lot of heat from the engine and next thing I got blasted by foam from the flight line firetruck. They were foaming down the entire front of the plane and the windshield was blown out from the crash. This was in 1969.
In short, I was covered from head to my boots with the foam. No protective gear, just my combat fatigues and a cap. I often wondered if it had an effect years later with my prostate cancer and dozens of skin cancer surgeries. Mix in Agent Orange with it and who knows? BTW, I did enjoy my R&R for a week in Sydney, 1969. I think the Opera House was just being built. The pubs were great! LOL Cheers from Syracuse, NY Bob Powell, CMSgt, USAF(Ret)
Thank you for your service.
My uncle was one of these men, He passed away from cancer about a decade ago. RIP uncle Paul, truly an incredible man.
I was a RAAF fire Fighter for 22 years, and we washed our trucks with this. We would spray the foam at Xmas time for the kids on ase to slide in, I remember my training film on AFFF, harmless to the body and a guy was washing his arms in it, No Rust to the Vehicles on the film, now we all have cancer, and the RAAF has no comments. We in the RAAF Fire Service used these foams every day for our career, not just in a training course.
Like the Reseal Deseal boys, it was known to cause health issues in USA but we continued to send guys into the fuel tanks.
@@octapc Yes I agree, they had the compensation, and the RAAF firefighter burnt it in training and nothing for them.
I'm ex RAAF and was a CFA volunteer I was in the F111 tanks , I spent 15 years fighting DVA for compensation, now I've spent 9 years trying to get CFA to deal with bullying issues.
I joined the RAAF and CFA to protect people, I never realised I would end up trying to protect people from what these groups have been doing
As MTFITT/GSEFITT ( heavy vehicle mechanic) in the RAAF for 27 years I have worked on all types of fire trucks been soaked in AFFF in it's neat form filling foam tanks fixing foam pumps ect, we would shower before we went home and you would stand there for over 1/2 hour to stop foaming before washing then go home I had my test for PFAS done at Williamtown and they are elevated eg. PFOS (perflurooctanesulfonic acid) 19.77ng/ml PFHxS (perfluorohexanesulfonate) 27.59ng/ml god knows what the avgas and avtur have done to my system?? Now 60 and having a lot of health issue who knows.
@@tadrs2 Have you started fighting with DVA yet ?
If not start now !!!! Before you get desperate :-(
I'm F 111 deseal reseal it took us 35 years and more
10 years as a Firefighter, and then a further six years at a refinery, in charge of the Firefighter training. We would go through tons of AFFF. Now I have to think about my health and the consequences
Mick is awesome. I hope the firefighters and community appreciate him.
Awesome Oz Story. What a hard road Mick travelled, people killing his dog and threatening him. But he knew the truth in the facts before him, and stayed the course.
And ended up presenting to the United Nations. Keep changing the oil on your car Mick.
There is the perfect example of putting the Canaries back into the Coal Mine until you run out of Canaries.
Here's a statement from Australian Red Cross Lifeblood: www.abc.net.au/austory/statement-red-cross/14066400
Its just sooooo unfair inhumane that the makers of mannnny harmful products are soooo callous n regard only PROFITS. Someone always knows the truth but has no regard to children workers the environment, etc etc.. May alll the wrongs be EXPOSED ..
Truly amazing, what an extraordinary man.
Doesn't surprise me that CFA dropped the ball on this chemical. I shifted from NSW Rural Fire Service to Victoria. Had resporator training.
CFA told me I was to start there training from beginning I told them to get stuffed.
Dads Army all from top to bottom.
It's awesome to find a way to remove it from your blood stream but by donating your blood to others aren't you just passing the the problem to the next person??
No problem will be faced by the receipent, it states at the end of the video
It stands to reason that the amount of PFAS in blood/plasma would be very low. It would also have to be tested as part of the clinical trial as part of the ethical study process.
I remember a study by a manufacturer that was attempted to compare people who worked in PFAS factories blood to the general population who had no PFAS detected because of high levels of health problems. The study couldn't find a sample size of the general population large enough to be scientifically significant without PFAS in their blood. That was many years ago so by now every human on the planet has at least small amounts of PFAS in their body.
So the chemical is still in the blood donated? To use on sick and injuried people? Its a fantastic solution, but please can we not use the blood for others!
The tiny amount of chemical in a single donation poses no risk
If it comes to a choice of a tiny amount of PFAS or dying from blood loss I'll chose a small amount of chemicals please
@@D70Dug We are just learning from the US there is no safe level of PFAS in the blood. To donate blood that has higher levels than the average person is the wrong thing to do. By all means, remove blood from firefighters, but do not offer it to others, to circulate it further in the community.