While I usually favor significantly more in-depth guides than this one, WG requested a simple guide of max 8 minutes which they will add to the client, hence the much shorter duration. Considering how much potato we might see in the CWs, this is something I don't mind doing at all, since it's about time the game gets some ingame guides to help people.
At least you know they aren't coming after you for the CB 'shit show'? Any chance of getting a video on clan sizes with more of the focus on the 'average' clan? Asia will have a problem with Clan Battle(CB) queues as any clan that is average in skill level/activity will struggle to have enough people online with only 30-40 members (let alone with 10s/rent-a-ship) to regularly queue for CB due to smaller number of clans and the wide range of timezones we have here... Also, thanks for all your vids, absolute staple for my clan!
While I prefer the in depth vids myself, (aside from potato teachings) this brings some great variation. Love the fast paced nature of this, especially the quick replay/game switching. Not unhappy about the fact that wg asked you to do this at all.
This is my ship of choice with the SHIMAKAZE, considering the numbers of radars in the game today... And i agree, since i play DDs most of the time it's a good thing some ships can actually offer proper support on caps to the team's DDs. Now, there also can be some use to this long range gunnery for countering radar-equiped ships, plus dynamic playstyle, my type of ship. On the other hand, despite her high chances of fire it's FAR from being a Conqueror, a ship i won't play anyway. Oh, i forgot i really like the fact that one can efficiently use AP with this ship as well.
It's good that apparently at least ONE Cruiser have the capability to offer support to caping DDs. From my PoV, 75% of the losses i suffered playing all classes started by our Dd being spotted, focused and killed, while their support (or mine a majority of the time) can't offer the same support for many reasons. First that comes to mind in view of recent games is the unability of many players to hit a maneuvering Khasbarovk and the presence of radar ships, both increasing in numbers. You can hit the F3 key as many times as you want, if your support ships are missing the ennemy DD, or/and hiding behind little rocks limiting their firing angles while the other team is not (seen time and time again), guess who is going to win the cap and who's going to get deleted? Some players are getting funny about this, clicking like mad on the minimap for you to cap, (even firing at you when you won't), while they have access to the same information than you do. Team composition says: One or TWO Khabas plus a Gearing plus 1/2 radar ships on the other side and they want IJN DDs to "go fetch"? So if i can help (not sure about that but i'm looking for ways to go around the problem) by playing this Cruiser, tank a little and influx some form of dynamics in this static trend of game i will. Good info always welcome. Cheers.
Chris Karge well you are wrong When it was released it didn’t have heal Was just a bigger and slightly changed Myoko or the old old Takao so yeah it changed a bit Still I find that a video can help people choosing their next premium ship
Hey Flamu, regarding the stealth; in random battles I am often bottom tier in my Atago/Mogami, and if possible (IE no DDs to outspot me) I stealth cap ALOT. Do you reccomend this in randoms and or CW? It is of course a trade between team DmG output and a cap
slapping a battleship by appearing at 10.2km with AP and attempting to get close with "you are already dead" F3's is fun... ballsweat inducing fear sure, but fun
After testing it, i think it lacks too much gun range. Fire chances are awesome but it is not enough. If you need to engage you also got to get way too close in some situations, it's good around and on cap but in a normal game, it can be a tad suicidal, especially with radar ships breeding like rabbits those days. With my tIX Saint Louis i have 21.3 km range and still good dispertion at this range which allows me to engage BBs and dodge their shells with a fair chance of success, not as good a fire starter but you can pile up damages at max range. That's long range harassment, the Zao simply can't do that, anything below 19/20 km range is too short for open sea gunfights.
Great video. Could you please make a video again about Atago? From my point of view the Atago need to be improved in order to be competitive with other cruisers (UK line) on T8 level.
I have over 800 games on her, she does not need any help. She is by far the strongest Heavy Cruiser at T8, the only cruiser that is stronger than her is the Kutuzov
You might not have noticed, but while going through the recommendations at the end you start referring to 'ranked' instead of Clan Wars. Understandable, and doesn't bother me as I won't be playing, but thought I'd point it out. Cheers p.s. give them a link to the "Conqueror: Nerf this Stupid F@#king Ship Already" vid as a bonus.
buy a Missouri and all your credit problems are solved FOREVER! with max credit boosts u will earn 1M-2M PER GAME. i also had 1 T10 for a long time but i saved a LOT of credits (around 150M) and then bought 9 T10 during the recent massive discounts. now im saving more for the next discounts while unlocking the rest of the T10
Surprised how you didn't mention Zao gets away with showing lots of broadside. Battleships rarely gets citadels or even full penetrations on Zaos, especially at mid to close range. It's usually either bounces or overpens. But I guess this guide is kind of for potatoes so not telling them this is also a valid choice...
Simon Cheng It can get away with it against BBs once angled, but a flat broadside WILL invite devstrikes, especially when slowed down. Against cruisers, it absolutely cannot get away with a broadside except at point blank (drive by) range. If a Moskva or Des Moines sees a broadside Zao, I guarantee the captain will cream his pants
You're running TAM, as I've suspected for a long time, as it's like a Sonar with Vigilance. Using AA module is a perfect synergy since you spots these torps at the moment they're launched; at 00:03:00 you spot the torps at nearly 5km without Sonar. Impossible if you're not using TAM. I've soncsidered this on the Hindy too, but the concealment is atrocious. Still, the Hindy has such high fire rate that it is lit up about 100% of the time anyway. As a sidenote; Concealment module/CE is overrated on BB's. I've been several time accused of using "wall hacks" as I approach smokes with my GK and spots the poor RN Cruiser way before they expect it. Your builds is not what you show people later, as I've suspected for a very long time (hence why you never show the distances on your minimap). Well, I guess, the best magicians don't show their tricks, eh?
In the past I hate zao the most because it's like a he-spam braindead ship and it doesn't help anything to the team, the zao players just burn down enemy bbs and watch the ""big damage output" increases. Also the armor of this ship is so "scientific" so that bbs can't do any damage to it when the zao is spamming his he 16or 17km away. And even u hit the zao, all u get possibly is just infinite over-pens, not to mention the geat concealment and perfect rudder as IJN cruiser's nation specialty. But since WG fix the invisible firing and we have conquer, I decided to use my friend's zao and burn every Conquer i seen. Let all patato Conquer players know the pain when u just fixed 2 fire by using the damage control and the enemy set 3 fire on you.
While I usually favor significantly more in-depth guides than this one, WG requested a simple guide of max 8 minutes which they will add to the client, hence the much shorter duration. Considering how much potato we might see in the CWs, this is something I don't mind doing at all, since it's about time the game gets some ingame guides to help people.
Exactly 8 minutes lol
Flamu wait WG is attaching your guide to the rent page ?
They are actually helping players ?
Eli Gedzelman Happy potatoes=extra profit xaxaxa)
They will sell these 300 doublons per video?
At least you know they aren't coming after you for the CB 'shit show'?
Any chance of getting a video on clan sizes with more of the focus on the 'average' clan? Asia will have a problem with Clan Battle(CB) queues as any clan that is average in skill level/activity will struggle to have enough people online with only 30-40 members (let alone with 10s/rent-a-ship) to regularly queue for CB due to smaller number of clans and the wide range of timezones we have here...
Also, thanks for all your vids, absolute staple for my clan!
I used to be an intolerable potato, now I'm a potato who occasionally gets 200k damage thanks to Flamu's videos. Thanks Flamu
about time they asked someone competent to do this. good work.
WAIT! You can outspot the Conqueror in the Zao?! WG please fix!
Armidas moin! Genau so ja!
lol!
zao is the real zao confirmed
I REALLY liked the style of this videos - highlighting strengths with the video showing said strengths, more compact, etc. - very well done!
this is how i play my Zao
first you need demolition expert and concealment expect
2. burn everthing
3. kraken or High experience for being a cancer
Your guides are definitely going to be as popular as ice creams during summer.
While I prefer the in depth vids myself, (aside from potato teachings) this brings some great variation. Love the fast paced nature of this, especially the quick replay/game switching. Not unhappy about the fact that wg asked you to do this at all.
Totally agree, was quite refreshing and yet still informative as ever.
This is my ship of choice with the SHIMAKAZE, considering the numbers of radars in the game today... And i agree, since i play DDs most of the time it's a good thing some ships can actually offer proper support on caps to the team's DDs. Now, there also can be some use to this long range gunnery for countering radar-equiped ships, plus dynamic playstyle, my type of ship. On the other hand, despite her high chances of fire it's FAR from being a Conqueror, a ship i won't play anyway. Oh, i forgot i really like the fact that one can efficiently use AP with this ship as well.
Really enjoyed this cut type of video of various clips, great as always 👍🏻
Pocket conqueror
At least its actually _balans_
Well thats questionable... all i heard from Flamu was how strong everything was.
Conqueror is MEGAZAO
It's good that apparently at least ONE Cruiser have the capability to offer support to caping DDs. From my PoV, 75% of the losses i suffered playing all classes started by our Dd being spotted, focused and killed, while their support (or mine a majority of the time) can't offer the same support for many reasons. First that comes to mind in view of recent games is the unability of many players to hit a maneuvering Khasbarovk and the presence of radar ships, both increasing in numbers. You can hit the F3 key as many times as you want, if your support ships are missing the ennemy DD, or/and hiding behind little rocks limiting their firing angles while the other team is not (seen time and time again), guess who is going to win the cap and who's going to get deleted? Some players are getting funny about this, clicking like mad on the minimap for you to cap, (even firing at you when you won't), while they have access to the same information than you do. Team composition says: One or TWO Khabas plus a Gearing plus 1/2 radar ships on the other side and they want IJN DDs to "go fetch"? So if i can help (not sure about that but i'm looking for ways to go around the problem) by playing this Cruiser, tank a little and influx some form of dynamics in this static trend of game i will. Good info always welcome. Cheers.
This was a very useful review of the Zao
Great video as usual Flamu thanks for your videos they help a lot!
cant wait to get her im currently at mogami and like her so far still takes time to get used to beeing almost always against t8-10 bb's
One more thing, in view of clan size limits, can't WG allow 'mercenaries' (people who are not in clans) to participate in clan battles?
Do a CE guide on carriers... oh wait
Hey Flamu, what about Atago commentary? Been a while since you featured this ship
Chris Karge well you are wrong When it was released it didn’t have heal Was just a bigger and slightly changed Myoko or the old old Takao so yeah it changed a bit Still I find that a video can help people choosing their next premium ship
grate video flamu !! pls make the next one for the minotaur
Shimakaze need some love.....
I guess that any Zao build can be used for the Atago as well, or is there any important distinctions to make?
Hey Flamu, regarding the stealth; in random battles I am often bottom tier in my Atago/Mogami, and if possible (IE no DDs to outspot me) I stealth cap ALOT. Do you reccomend this in randoms and or CW? It is of course a trade between team DmG output and a cap
I'm actually thinking I'll run PM/Jack instead of vigilance, going to be enough torp spotting with hydro/fighter IMO.
What are those red yellow and green x that I see beside your ships
slapping a battleship by appearing at 10.2km with AP and attempting to get close with "you are already dead" F3's is fun... ballsweat inducing fear sure, but fun
Will you comment on the smoke screen changes please?
After testing it, i think it lacks too much gun range. Fire chances are awesome but it is not enough. If you need to engage you also got to get way too close in some situations, it's good around and on cap but in a normal game, it can be a tad suicidal, especially with radar ships breeding like rabbits those days. With my tIX Saint Louis i have 21.3 km range and still good dispertion at this range which allows me to engage BBs and dodge their shells with a fair chance of success, not as good a fire starter but you can pile up damages at max range. That's long range harassment, the Zao simply can't do that, anything below 19/20 km range is too short for open sea gunfights.
Can someone tell me what that black and red camo is? looks sick as balls
Most of the time pushing with a DD, he stop pushing and smoke up in cap, i get spotted and turn, he blame me for running, and he gets torped to death
McKenzie Walks
Great video. Could you please make a video again about Atago? From my point of view the Atago need to be improved in order to be competitive with other cruisers (UK line) on T8 level.
I have over 800 games on her, she does not need any help. She is by far the strongest Heavy Cruiser at T8, the only cruiser that is stronger than her is the Kutuzov
Chris Karge Atago get ripped by a Hindenburg until you get near the shooting range. This is my experience from the past few weeks
how do you deal with that low shell velocity. I am only have ARP Tako but I really struggle to hit things reliably at range.
2nd Best Tier 10 cruiser in game.
Tromp Freeway
Hows Hindenburg for competitive?
Centurio Macro
Very good allrounder
MEGAZAO
MINIZAO
FASTZAO
Zao : fucking OP ship. can play without brain and team
공민진
😂😂😂😂
You might not have noticed, but while going through the recommendations at the end you start referring to 'ranked' instead of Clan Wars.
Understandable, and doesn't bother me as I won't be playing, but thought I'd point it out.
Cheers
p.s. give them a link to the "Conqueror: Nerf this Stupid F@#king Ship Already" vid as a bonus.
Steeltrap Yes they should put that in the client instead of videos that teach players how to survive the broken meta.
I hope they nerf conqueror by the time clan wars have started. It would be a celebration in a way :/
Ebert Villages
Torrance Mission
Love you so much...:3 You teach me the new way to play Zao. Thank you!!
Estefania Flat
Mod name?
Emmitt Fort
I reached 30, 000 000 credits today *boi am I rich* - looks at the Flamu's 480, 000 000 *THE FUK :O*
Goran Radosevic Because I sold old ships to buy new ships I have unlocked 7 T10s and only have 1 in port and my credit is always below 1 million, fml.
Begged with 12.77mil here! Need moar for Khabarovsk
buy a Missouri and all your credit problems are solved FOREVER!
with max credit boosts u will earn 1M-2M PER GAME.
i also had 1 T10 for a long time but i saved a LOT of credits (around 150M) and then bought 9 T10 during the recent massive discounts. now im saving more for the next discounts while unlocking the rest of the T10
cobrazax
Nahh Tirpitz is more fun to play
but it earns much less, even when im sure its fun, AND u cant get it for free!
Surprised how you didn't mention Zao gets away with showing lots of broadside. Battleships rarely gets citadels or even full penetrations on Zaos, especially at mid to close range. It's usually either bounces or overpens. But I guess this guide is kind of for potatoes so not telling them this is also a valid choice...
Yah I'm not gonna be encouraging brand new t10 cruiser players to sail around full broadside
Simon Cheng he probably didn't mention it on purpose, it would cause even more potato gameplay
Edit: dammit, flamu was faster
I see what are you trying here no juicy broadsides for you :D
Simon Cheng
It can get away with it against BBs once angled, but a flat broadside WILL invite devstrikes, especially when slowed down.
Against cruisers, it absolutely cannot get away with a broadside except at point blank (drive by) range. If a Moskva or Des Moines sees a broadside Zao, I guarantee the captain will cream his pants
Conqueror HE doesn't care.
You're running TAM, as I've suspected for a long time, as it's like a Sonar with Vigilance. Using AA module is a perfect synergy since you spots these torps at the moment they're launched; at 00:03:00 you spot the torps at nearly 5km without Sonar. Impossible if you're not using TAM. I've soncsidered this on the Hindy too, but the concealment is atrocious. Still, the Hindy has such high fire rate that it is lit up about 100% of the time anyway.
As a sidenote; Concealment module/CE is overrated on BB's. I've been several time accused of using "wall hacks" as I approach smokes with my GK and spots the poor RN Cruiser way before they expect it.
Your builds is not what you show people later, as I've suspected for a very long time (hence why you never show the distances on your minimap). Well, I guess, the best magicians don't show their tricks, eh?
His goal is to help people improve at the game you dumbfuck
In the past I hate zao the most because it's like a he-spam braindead ship and it doesn't help anything to the team, the zao players just burn down enemy bbs and watch the ""big damage output" increases. Also the armor of this ship is so "scientific" so that bbs can't do any damage to it when the zao is spamming his he 16or 17km away. And even u hit the zao, all u get possibly is just infinite over-pens, not to mention the geat concealment and perfect rudder as IJN cruiser's nation specialty. But since WG fix the invisible firing and we have conquer, I decided to use my friend's zao and burn every Conquer i seen. Let all patato Conquer players know the pain when u just fixed 2 fire by using the damage control and the enemy set 3 fire on you.
But, aren't CV's banned from CW for being way too hard for potatoes?
Why AA range?
He used it for randoms
22seconds ago :)
Dammit 5th
Nth
Poi