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They gang up and call him a no life loser, meanwhile he fucks off to get on with his life and they carry on for years trying to beat the same records, guess they were the no life losers after all!
the only certainties in life: -death -taxes -an unknown japanese person suddenly yoinking the top spot of a speedrunning community and then disappearing randomly
there was a german comment i once saw referring to the concept. i don't remember the entire comment but i do remember it reading at the end: _ein japaner besser kann_ (a japanese can do it better)
I kinda just wanna point out the INSANITY of the guy doing weekly update newsletters on Mario Cart ds, for years and years and years. The sheer dedication is insane. Through the highs and lows, dry spells and wr spam. Weekly updates on people's movements and activity. Props.
Well Sami Cetin has been doing it for Super Mario Kart since the 90s, he started up the entire thing. We still play IRL to this day, I even leave for Europe in 2 weeks. The commitment on the Players Site is total insanity
Shout-out to taiga's parents for recognizing their kid's abilities and making the effort to post those vids. I can imagine many other kids would have their parents brush it off and not realize the level of achievement
i never really apreciated it but my mom asked me once or twice if was really good at any of my games, i allways said no and dismissed her. a couple years ago i saw the history of DMC3 speedruning and i'm pretty sure i was years ahead the competition on 2010 (i had a beef with a cousin plaing it) but i didnt knew there was a speedrun comunity.
@@thekiran6176 nah i saw the level rigth now and it just reached levels of complexity that i just don't wanna get in to anymore, they are teleporting entire maps and shit now xd.
It was so nice to see my favourite game covered in a SummoningSalt's video, thank you for that! Also.. time really flies, can't believe it's been 16 years since I joined this community :o
@@wholelottawhale4103 I might be misremembering, but I do think he's done this bit before, just don't remember in what video. But I could also be straight up having false memories xD
It's gotta be disheartening for the Mario Kart 8 community and time trialers their game will never get a Summoning Salt video but tbh the game just doesn't have Aura
I like imagine Taiga and MKDasher both have a lot of fun competing against each other given how it's hard to be angry against Taiga since it's really impressive he's able to set world records as a literal child
I don't think you understand the definition of anger, nothing sound more infuriating than losing something you have put 10 years into to a literal child
It's kinda funny that twice in the game's history, the #1 spot was only in question because of literally one track someone had zero interest in playing.
I completely understand it - When I used to speedrun MK64 (at a much lower level), it was the same exact two tracks I never wanted to play: Moo Moo Farm & Rainbow Road. The old data is still there and they are literally my worst times 😅
Buahaha. Good point. Feels like, I don’t know, 8-10 years ago. We are all dying. Make sure you’re experiencing life and enjoying it. Before you know it Switch will 20 years old and so much will be behind us.
@@codymurp8766Dude, did you hear that they put out Ocarina of Time in 3D? I didn’t even think it was possible. I don’t think Nintendo could ever top this.
Hey everyone, Mark Jones here. People often ask me, “Mark, what's the secret to being a former Mario Kart DS world champion?” I think most expect my response to be something along the lines of “thousands of hours of grinding, years of developing calluses, the constant battle against carpal tunnel and having the mental strength to weather the unhoarding of times by your closest rivals.” But I am all about subverting expectations and it often surprises people when I tell them that the true secret to being a former Mario Kart DS world champion is
The way the community treated Sascha was just utterly childish. Just because he played a lot and loved to play, shouldn't be a cause to give him so much grief. Even amongst nerds, when somebody is "too much" of a nerd, they get shunned. It's really pathetic. I'm sure he felt really bad about how the other 3 competitors ganged up on him and caused him to quit. He must've felt really alone in that community, just because he was the best.
Did you even read his comments? dude was intentionally being smug to literally every other player. he had no interest in even lowering times unless someone else was ahead of him, he just wanted to make other people feel inferior with taunts and sarcastic comments. dude was asking for the community to hate him lmao
@@TheGhostThatWas tbf taiga was 11 years old when he joined and it was also in the 2020's so the standard for internet etiquette has changed since that being said, sascha's comments did indeed invite the community's disdain lmao
The issue seems to be more Sascha's smugness combined with the scarce amount of proof to back up his times. Not saying this justified the other players' actions, but my guess is that they felt like a lot of his times weren't legitimate and only posted just to take the wind out of other people's sails. That's a little more understandable to me than simply them being jealous.
Wait, a community of unhinged speedrunners acted childish? Say it ain't so. Do you cry when Elon Musk gets treated like trash? Sascha comes off as a turd and was literally treated as such.
The funniest part about the new shortcuts is it took us less than 5 hours from first having the idea of the Luigi's mansion shortcut to it being proven real by Guan and it was also my very first day with the game since playing as a child back in the day XD. Thank you for covering the greatest MK game, recently a technique to super bounce on flat ground was discovered by GOAT taser Suuper so more shortcuts may be on the way :)
@@biggiemac42 yep Suuper and some other old tasers are back, alongside lots of new people (like me). To be honest the best part of the whole shortcut revolution has been the revival of MKDS TASing in general
I'm in another discord with Guan and he mentioned that he was in the video. I thought he was just one of the background people in 3rd or something. When I watched the video however, I was shocked by how important that find was and it was really cool to realize that I was talking to someone legendary like that and didn't even know it. I'm glad you guys could put it together to make that shortcut happen.
Super cool to hear about. It makes sense that a game with a stronger non-sc scene could have great potential for remaining shortcuts even this far after release.
“He has no life” “all he does is play all day” My reaction watching the history of Lego Star Wars WRs when Salt talks about the kid that decided he had to go from 14 hour to 16 hour to 18 hour grinds
well i think that was more for speed running. back then there were a lot of degens who played all day but speedrunning wasn’t as popular so speedrunners didn’t do that
NAAAAA, they did my boy Sascha dirty as fuck. He kept up the competition for all of them. And he was left alone just to get stabbed in the back. RIP Sascha
I feel bad for Sasha, all his opponents went silent so he was playing alone and end up losing interest, just to find out they where playing together behind his back. That must be a giant sucker punch that just killed his interest in the game.
The idea of anybody thinking they should police how quickly or frequently times are submitted is a total joke to me. You get the best time, you're the best. That's it.
I already know who one guy is Imagine finding some person destroying a decade+ worth of records online and every interaction with him you find out its actually from his mother telling you what he's saying because she won't let him talk to strangers online since he's literally 13 years old. So all your records are getting destroyed by some guy half your age who can't even vote or drink or sign up yet
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> So all your records are getting destroyed by some guy half your age who can't even vote or drink or sign up yet Legal drinking ages are much lower in much of Europe, where many of our champions are from. (There are some limits on who can purchase alcohol, but it's typically fully legal for your parents to let you have small amounts of non-distilled alcohol, eg beer or wine. And even the ages limits on purchasing by yourself are much lower than in the US.) Edit: oh, you are talking about the eleven year old Taiga from Japan. Legal drinking age is 20 there.
i play in a band and we have been absolutely mogged live by a collection of 14 year olds doing a note-for-note perfect cover of megadeth's tornado of souls
fucking legend, in my game of choice rocket league the pro scene is dominated by 12 yr old prodigies and if you are over 18 your an old washed player its actually insane why are these kids sooo fucking good...
43:27 Ok…that was actually a pretty funny bait-n-switch. Kinda cool that Ben, who had been there for almost the entire time, was able to get the top spot after years of sitting in the background of the top players
I went "Imagine it's Mark oh wait oh s--- HAHAHA" and then stopped paying attention for a couple of seconds so when I went back and saw Ben I was like "ah yeah classic salt"
0:49:48 thats me there at rank 24. Salt, I want to thank you so much for what you do. Watching your MK64 videos introduced me to speedrunning. Now more than 5 years in this great community its come full circle. PRB is nice, but I am a NON-PRB player, currently ranked 6th. Maybe one day ill be the NON-PRB Champion lol.😂
As someone who competed against Sascha in the German scene, it felt good to know that he was a beast even on a global scale. Dude never talked about it in the local scene. He was pretty shy and friendly. Winning every single tournament, even by late 2007. Absolutely sucks what they did to him. Sascha deserved better.
@Mychron93 I think it's just the generally poor treatment he got from the community while he held the PRB title. The whole "loser who only plays mkds" thing. Even if you're bar-none the best at something, hearing someone, or a group of people denigrate you because of that accomplishment can take a real mental toll. Sascha might have been coy with how he interacted with the community (😎 and not providing videos), but seeing people you at least respect enough to compete with constantly just go to personal criticisms and attacks hurts.
It's so upsetting to me the more I hear about it because he seemed like they were mad he was just better than everybody. That's so exciting for a player to be that good, it makes me so mad what they did.
Yeah it feels shitty, like yeah he plays a lot but that’s how you become the best in the world. And for a world record holder 6 hours a day really isn’t that insane. But he got bullied off the server and probably didn’t come back because of that poor treatment and how the community responded to the record coup, which was undoubtably a really shitty move.
i appreciate that you got closer to the real pronunciation of "david roldan" instead of going with the full english pronunciation most people do. It's really the small details that make these videos really great :D
Not posting video footage (hiding strats) is super frowned upon though. There should've been a rule to require video footage. But that doesn't excuse bullying.
Assuming Sasha used his real name and it had an ‘ä’ instead of the ‘a’ in ‘Brauninger’, wich would be the normal german spelling, he might have stopped because he had just started a physics degree and is now a PHD in physics, lol.
@@JE281 Neither are common, but ‘Bräuninger’ or ‘Breuninger’ you can at leat find a decent amount of. ‘Brauninger’, while technically a valid spelling, would be REALLY rare. If you look it up in the phonebook for example, there’s 148 results for the Various spellings of ‘Bräuninger’, but not a single one for ‘Brauniger’.
I was curious to see if this was really the case. Comparing his old speedrunner photo with the ones I saw on Google Image, it seems he's more of a senior project manager in a Pricing and Product Management team.
ty as always for making these, the way u put these videos into story arcs with peaks and falls its genuinely so well done its my favourite content to watch
The first player to do the Luigi's Mansion shortcut right here, and one of the three players to find the rest. Thank you for your contributions to history! 👍
Its an argument a lot of people make at grassroots level competition. "Natural talent vs nerd". Obviously its not a legitimate criticism but its funny how often that mentality cropped up in the early 2000s
@@pokeman123451100%. I used to hear it in Smash all the time. You couldn’t play the game too much or take it too seriously back in the mid 2000s. That being said, I also don’t care for the sweaty, optimize-the-fun-out-of-every-game approach that we have now, so who knows what’s really best.
@@kode-man23 As long as the goal is to win, people will find a way to remove the fun out of any game be it video games or actual sports for the sake of optimizing your play. It doesn't have to be in a tournament setting for it to be the case either. Since the only fun that matters is you winning.
Being part of the Mario Kart DS community since 2006 has been so fun, and seeing the game get its chance in the spotlight has been such a pleasure. Thank you for sharing our community's story with the world!
43:30 I literally ROFLMAO'd after that whole thing with Mark Jones' name being zoomed in, signaling his return, just to inmediately shift to Ben Stoneman's right there 🤣 Amazing video! I really enjoyed it, keep it going !
Mentalities were different back then. Gaming was not something you could be doing full time, if you did, you were considered a loser by society no matter what. I think this comment somewhat translates to "not fair you have free time to play because you have no life"
Thank you for covering our community’s history so meticulously! Mario Kart DS has been a huge part of my teenage years; I’m proud to have served it with times and news updates for the PP back in the day, and I’m thankful for all the memories this game and its amazing players have given me. As we used to say back then: MKDS will never die :)
"They said that Sascha had no life, that Mario Kart DS was his own passion". The irony of saying this while currently arguing in the Mario Kart speed running forums 😭
@@CommissarMitch Did you watch the video at all??? The others actually submitted video proof of all their records. It's not a coincidence that soon after action replays enabled proper gameplay videos that he stopped getting new records. Then when the other three posted all of theirs, he just up and left the community without a trace.
You’re clearly in a class of your own. Basically inventing this genre of content. The opening tone of your vids is a unique signature, and yet it gives me pangs of nostalgia.
Taiga is gonna grow up NEVER touching grass but will still probably make millions as a pro gamer/speedrunner. Good for him!!! Thank you for making this video! I'm not a speedrunner by any means, but it's mesmerizing watching others play so smooth and fast in games I've played and don't play. So fascinating. Keep up the amazing work and showcasing some of the most interesting run histories from every game, no matter how small! (I'm quiet partial to mario kart tbh lol)
23:10 moments like this always give me goosebumps. Seeing just a long blue line appear on a graph, but understanding that behind it lay YEARS of a single player dominating the competition - absolutely jaw-dropping... and the epic music as a cherry on top. Great video as always!
That long stretch of blue would be mad impressive if he didn't bully the player that was clearly better than him. He eliminated the better player rather than beat them.
Super cool video!! Taiga was really something else. I remember when he got a world record on Wario Stadium where each of the 3 laps was the best known split, and then did it again a month later or something. And his Figure-8 Circuit record that was within 2 frames of the sum of best known splits, which he has since beaten twice. And of course, his 1+ second lead on Bowser Castle that persists to this day. My jaw dropped at every video he uploaded. It makes it all the crazier that MKDasher was still- though barely- just better than him. It shined brightest with these shortcuts, MKDasher is a FREAK at those.. I remember when he hit 3/3 Luigi's Mansion shortcut, no one else had even hit it one time. Having top players like these two playing the game is such a treat, to me they are the best players of all time in any Mario Kart game. Thank you so much for this video!! I'm glad this story can be shared with more people :) and it was cool to learn more of the history of the game as well!!
I am finally a college student. Watched the Tetris one just before coming to college. I am depressed beyond belief. Had to withdraw from 1 class and am borderline failing another. But this song still hits different with all the emotions coming out. Thank you for what I expect to be another fantastic video about speedrunning. You have made my and many others lives better and for that I thank you.
The MKDasher reveal near the middle of the video had me double taking at my screen irl like some insane plot twist in a video game. That was insane, love the video
I genuinely think your voice and the way you edit is the only combo in the world that could get me to watch an hour long documentary on a game that I could not care less about. Legend.
i have had a really rough month and honestly being able to watch this and eat my noodles really helped me calm down so i can focus on finding a new job thank you man
Pretty cool to see some of the early champs and top players be ancient melee players like Stelzig, Azen and Zgetto. Great video salt, this was a really cool spin on what you usually do. Was also nice to see a big focus on the people moreso than the game this time around, you're good at keeping people engaged no matter the topic
omg ricky :O as someone who got into melee and mkds at around the same time it was really weird to see that there was overlap between the players XD was gonna say hello at ESA this winter this year but I was just very busy :P
My man Sascha was bullied relentlessly, then ganged up on by 3 other players, who left the game and drained all the fun of playing from it, before coming back to take the record with vaulted videos. Insane to me that anyone was okay with this, let alone encouraged it. Only in 2007 ig
to be fair, as explained in the video, they were practically taking down everyone's records, always commenting on them as a kind of mock towards others with the constant emojis and that feel of overconfidence that surrounded them. also, we don't really know what happened to them after that comeback from the other top players all those years before, aside from a comment that clearly takes the movement with joy and a hint of a comeback from their part, so saying that it drained the fun out of them may be a bit of a stretch.
@@sushyhacecosasNone of what Sascha posted was anything more than friendly banter lol. If they got butt hurt over that they all need therapy. Normal human beings don't get offended by "thanks for the new strat 😎"
First response here is accurate. I think there would be less antagonism if he was less snarky about it. Also a lot of his times had no proof whatsoever, so there is a chance when push came to shove he actually couldn't beat their times and actually gave up because of that.
another thing that makes me a little bit more ok with it is that Sascha wasn't submitting runs with video proof either, and clearly at some point the emojis pissing people off would have made it clear that he was being seen as a villain and if he didn't want that he could have stopped with it. problem is that he kept doing it. Thomas doing it is still underhanded but I also don't think Sascha was entirely blameless, at least from the stuff in this video.
I rly like your videos and I could rewatch them like once in 2 weeks (all of them), for me, it is neutral gaming journalism and you are very well informed. I don't even mind if you bring up a video once in a month or so, the videos are that good and that entertaining that it is worth the waiting. So like you are saying "Thanks for watching" I have to say thanks for uploading your work!
One of my absolute favorite things about these gaming docs is the inevitable crossover between communities. Hearing Azen's name (6:50) and then seeing Zgetto's tag and name shortly after (7:56) was a welcome surprise (very accomplished Melee players, Azen was probably 2nd in the world around the time he held the champion title). Great piece as always, continues the streak of fantastic MK stories from you.
@@mikewebsters4119 was he doing anything beyond poaching peoples times and using emojis like he showed in the video? cause if the 2-4 runners spent genuine time shit talking him and then intentionally colluded to box him out because he was better than them and bragged about it that's not a fun speedrunning story that's just loser shit.
@@maruwapofilms815 That is a toxic way of looking at it. They didn't collude to "box him out," they colluded to challenge and inspire each other to better themselves because they loved the game and were healthily passionate about the competition. You also must not forget that Sascha's records were lacking in proof while theirs weren't. It is absolutely wrong of you to believe that Sascha has any sort of moral high ground here it's both wrong and hypocritical of you to accuse his rivals of "loser shit."
Idk man it feels more ‘loosery’ for you and your top leaderboard buddies to go offline, collude and grind records together without anyone knowing then drop them all at once to box someone out bc you got upset you couldn’t beat records or keep pace. Maybe it was weird Sasha didn’t have record proof at times, but this was pre 2010s WR which was common, and the emojis didn’t read passive aggresive to me. I think it’s Lame someone got pushed out bc three whole people couldn’t just take a challenge on the chin.
When I heard "for the last 20 years.. " I realized my childhood is going away and I appreciate you for making these videos! Keep up the good work and keep these banger back round song around :)
the Mario Kart docs are my absolute favorites! just when I think they’re over, a new one pops up a few months later. thank you so much @summoningsalt … I hope there are more Mario kart topics to be covered in the future 😎
As someone that played Mario Kart DS's online a LOT in the 00s, I really appreciate this video. I remember hoping to rank up against the best of the Mario Kart DS scene back in that era, and whilst I don't know if I ever did, it was still a meaningful thing to've done. I never was that good at the time trials though, hahaha.
I’m glad Summoning Salt acknowledged that what happened at 21:29 would be completely unacceptable by today’s standards, this immediately made me think of the Matthias MK64 video where the rival ended up hiding his records to post them all at once and avoid competition
@@Loalrikowki Yeah, In speedrunning today if anyone posts a claim about a new record and there's no video proof, at best they get a 'cool story, bro' and at worst they get banned for trying to deceive people.
Yeah, I thought of that controversy too. That was one hell of a mess. Though it looks like MR is back to setting times again, he recently got world records on Kalimari Desert and Yoshi Valley for Non-SC 3Lap, which is pretty nice
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Legends say that Sascha has all 64 world records, he is just waiting for the best moment to release them.
It would be epic.
They gang up and call him a no life loser, meanwhile he fucks off to get on with his life and they carry on for years trying to beat the same records, guess they were the no life losers after all!
@@inthefadeIt would be awful in 64 different ways.
😄😎
We all know they killed sascha
the only certainties in life:
-death
-taxes
-an unknown japanese person suddenly yoinking the top spot of a speedrunning community and then disappearing randomly
Roses are red
Violets are blue
There is always an Asian kid
Better than you
Lmao
I was expecting a Matt Turk reference lol
there was a german comment i once saw referring to the concept. i don't remember the entire comment but i do remember it reading at the end:
_ein japaner besser kann_
(a japanese can do it better)
@@panos21sonic LOL so true
I kinda just wanna point out the INSANITY of the guy doing weekly update newsletters on Mario Cart ds, for years and years and years. The sheer dedication is insane. Through the highs and lows, dry spells and wr spam. Weekly updates on people's movements and activity. Props.
Nothing makes me happier than when people find a passion project
Right? I'm honestly just shocked that the forum is still around at all nearly 20 years later. Absolutely insane.
Thought the same thing, shoutouts to the people running the site!
Well Sami Cetin has been doing it for Super Mario Kart since the 90s, he started up the entire thing.
We still play IRL to this day, I even leave for Europe in 2 weeks.
The commitment on the Players Site is total insanity
Thanks! It's easier when you know that other people also care and that somebody is reading them.
Shout-out to taiga's parents for recognizing their kid's abilities and making the effort to post those vids. I can imagine many other kids would have their parents brush it off and not realize the level of achievement
i never really apreciated it but my mom asked me once or twice if was really good at any of my games, i allways said no and dismissed her. a couple years ago i saw the history of DMC3 speedruning and i'm pretty sure i was years ahead the competition on 2010 (i had a beef with a cousin plaing it) but i didnt knew there was a speedrun comunity.
@@josue1996jc be the ben stoneman of dmc3, you probably still have what it takes to compete
@@thekiran6176 nah i saw the level rigth now and it just reached levels of complexity that i just don't wanna get in to anymore, they are teleporting entire maps and shit now xd.
It was so nice to see my favourite game covered in a SummoningSalt's video, thank you for that!
Also.. time really flies, can't believe it's been 16 years since I joined this community :o
well hello there
Legend
un genio David
OH MY GOD ITS MKDASHERRRR BEJEGDJDND
Damn it's the GOAT himself
The fact that you included Mark Jones in the overall graph is really sweet, at the end he was the one starting the website so I think he deserves it
he's the best player in this entire video, of course he was going to feature!
Bro really had me all hyped up about a possible comeback at 43:28 lol
Yeah, that fakeout was the best part. 😹 Actually had me believe the founder had a inspiration moment complete with a Rocky montage.
To be fair, he's *still* active in Mario Kart speedrunning, setting a personal best on a track 4 months ago in MK64, not to mention the site work.
Taiga just casually became world champion while still in middle school, what a legend
I can see him being champ into adulthood too
Chad recording his footage with his phone pointed at his DS.
His parents are legends as well for supporting him as he sets those records
wait.....
THAT TAIGA?? The Vtuber??
@@colossaldonut51903DS
Still can't believe Sascha moved to Japan and had a child who he trained to play Mario Kart DS
true redditor mentality
I was thinking that too lol
the only other good kind of grooming
project lebron but for mario kart ds
Project MKDS
"That's right, it was Ben Stoneman" absolutely killed me.
I swear to God when he started zooming in I said mark Jones like a scooby doo gang when they unmask a villan only to be bamboozled
I don’t think summoning salt has ever done that before, good bit was v funny
@@wholelottawhale4103There was that Matt Turk fake out in the SM64 video...
@@wholelottawhale4103 I might be misremembering, but I do think he's done this bit before, just don't remember in what video. But I could also be straight up having false memories xD
I half expected him to say "That's right, it was Matt Turk"
In before Sascha is revealed to be Taiga’s dad who disappeared to train his son for revenge.
The Mario Kart DS Axis.
Ah, yes, the Jos Verstappen mk.2. This time without life scarring abuse, hopefully
@@costantinocarnevale3289Taiga has been setting all of his WRs from outside a petrol station
The story of MKDS is peak
The long con strategy
Thank you so much for covering Mario Kart DS! It's a huge honour for our community. Still can't believe the game is nearly 20 years old now.
Shits almost as old as I am and I played that bitch haha.
No way I only started watching your world record videos just days ago. And now you're in the newest SS world record video 💀 You're legendary
It's gotta be disheartening for the Mario Kart 8 community and time trialers their game will never get a Summoning Salt video but tbh the game just doesn't have Aura
Me neither, time flies a lot, Abel
Mkds was my childhood. I still play just for fun. Happy almost 20th anniversary for all of us!
44:00 That's gotta hurt. Losing World Champion, not because your biggest competitor did something, but because a third party displaced you.
Michael and Miguel is like some sort of Mario/Wario naming scheme for rivals lmao
I kept reading it as Michael with a G
They’re the same name
makes sense, it is mario kart after all
@@ww草racist
Also Miguel is just the spanish translation of the name Michael in english
MKDasher having beef with a middle schooler is the funniest takeaway from this video
And he is most likely like a 30-40 year old too😭😭
this is really wholesome tbh.
@@white6505 I think it’s sick I mean I wish I was good enough at a game to be grinding in my 40s
Yeah haha that's wild (In a good way ofc) 💀
Tbh the fact that he can still keep up with a kid this young is really impressive. Children have INSANE reaction times compared to adults.
Taiga: the only reason you were the strongest, is because I wasn't born yet
dude was born to be king 👑
if god had wanted you to win he would not have created HIM
@@TheGhostThatWasBeing honest be Should have not been, MkDasher Truly was
JJK reference 🙌🏼
@@Flareonboiihmmm nah
I like imagine Taiga and MKDasher both have a lot of fun competing against each other given how it's hard to be angry against Taiga since it's really impressive he's able to set world records as a literal child
I don't think you understand the definition of anger, nothing sound more infuriating than losing something you have put 10 years into to a literal child
It's kinda funny that twice in the game's history, the #1 spot was only in question because of literally one track someone had zero interest in playing.
fucking rainbow road, too
"I I had a nickel for every time-"
I have to admit, I love Thomas' nonchalant attitude about it that he held on to for the longest time.
for TB it was like 3 i think but mainly rainbow road
I completely understand it - When I used to speedrun MK64 (at a much lower level), it was the same exact two tracks I never wanted to play: Moo Moo Farm & Rainbow Road. The old data is still there and they are literally my worst times 😅
Was not at all mentally prepared for that "for the last 20 years.. " part of my brain still thinks of the DS as new.
the 3DS is still cutting edge technology you can’t tell me otherwise
@@codymurp8766to this day, the 3DS makes my brain sneeze its own guts out like how the hell do you put all that _space_ in there and make it _move_
we're so old now
Buahaha. Good point. Feels like, I don’t know, 8-10 years ago.
We are all dying.
Make sure you’re experiencing life and enjoying it. Before you know it Switch will 20 years old and so much will be behind us.
@@codymurp8766Dude, did you hear that they put out Ocarina of Time in 3D? I didn’t even think it was possible. I don’t think Nintendo could ever top this.
Newtons 4th law of motion:
If any player seeks to take all mario kart world records. An Anti 1 Alliance will naturally be created.
The price of the number one headband.
But only if no.1 is a german
@@BarakZero who has an arch nemesis with the initials DB
Hoping someday Salt will go back and cover MK64 and what came to light after his original video
@@jeffsauer4114 What came to light? :O
You got me!
Genuinely thought Mark Jones was making a comeback - great editing 😂
For some reason, every time Salt said "But there was a new name entering the picture..." part of me still expected it to be Matt Turk.
It probably still is
Can you prove it *ISN'T* Matt Turk?
Lmao
"...and that racer ... Was me."
@@BradMeyerlive Nah, this isn't Karl Jobst.
Hey everyone, Mark Jones here. People often ask me, “Mark, what's the secret to being a former Mario Kart DS world champion?” I think most expect my response to be something along the lines of “thousands of hours of grinding, years of developing calluses, the constant battle against carpal tunnel and having the mental strength to weather the unhoarding of times by your closest rivals.” But I am all about subverting expectations and it often surprises people when I tell them that the true secret to being a former Mario Kart DS world champion is
@@dntn31 nobody else will ever be first. The GOAT
@@dntn31 oh hi mark
@@dntn31 Its THE Mark Jones??
Absolute legend
Dang. I think his battery died
while he was writing his comment.
“Mark Jones wasn’t particularly good at Mario Kart DS, but became world champion by default”
My kind of Matt Turk
I wasn't particularly good at MKDS and I'm still not particularly good at MKDS.
Mark Jones caught so many strays in this video
@@dntn31 holy shit, are you Mark Jones?
@@justtrying44 👍
"By default! My Favourite way to win!"
The way the community treated Sascha was just utterly childish. Just because he played a lot and loved to play, shouldn't be a cause to give him so much grief. Even amongst nerds, when somebody is "too much" of a nerd, they get shunned. It's really pathetic. I'm sure he felt really bad about how the other 3 competitors ganged up on him and caused him to quit. He must've felt really alone in that community, just because he was the best.
Did you even read his comments? dude was intentionally being smug to literally every other player. he had no interest in even lowering times unless someone else was ahead of him, he just wanted to make other people feel inferior with taunts and sarcastic comments. dude was asking for the community to hate him lmao
also you didn't see the community bully Taiga, Abel or even Thomas just because they were ahead
@@TheGhostThatWas tbf taiga was 11 years old when he joined and it was also in the 2020's so the standard for internet etiquette has changed since
that being said, sascha's comments did indeed invite the community's disdain lmao
The issue seems to be more Sascha's smugness combined with the scarce amount of proof to back up his times. Not saying this justified the other players' actions, but my guess is that they felt like a lot of his times weren't legitimate and only posted just to take the wind out of other people's sails. That's a little more understandable to me than simply them being jealous.
Wait, a community of unhinged speedrunners acted childish? Say it ain't so. Do you cry when Elon Musk gets treated like trash? Sascha comes off as a turd and was literally treated as such.
I loved the "little kid beats up several grown men who have been playing for years" saga. hilarious.
ruclips.net/video/a3_PPdjD6mg/видео.html
You know its a good video when a relevant plot point is "preteen plays Moo Moo Meadows"
@@fosterdawson7339farm not meadows
Local child good at game designed for his age range
@@-AirKat- I mean yeah but that doesn't mean it is reasonable to expect that a child would also do better than adults at that game
43:31 Dude the way you mislead us to think it was Mark Jones was so evil. "That's right, it was Ben Stoneman" 10/10 writing
I laughed pretty hard 💀💀💀
I shouted 'fuck you' at my screen after that fake out. I jokingly said 'its gotta be mark jones' and with that slow fade in, i thought it was.
They had us in the first half not gonna lie.
And here I was thinking it would be Matt Turk.
I was expecting it to be the SummoningSalt himself, fresh from conquering MTPO
The funniest part about the new shortcuts is it took us less than 5 hours from first having the idea of the Luigi's mansion shortcut to it being proven real by Guan and it was also my very first day with the game since playing as a child back in the day XD. Thank you for covering the greatest MK game, recently a technique to super bounce on flat ground was discovered by GOAT taser Suuper so more shortcuts may be on the way :)
oh no way suuper is back! That is exciting. I remember popping off at his tick tock clock shortcut
Geez, that’s insane
@@biggiemac42 yep Suuper and some other old tasers are back, alongside lots of new people (like me). To be honest the best part of the whole shortcut revolution has been the revival of MKDS TASing in general
I'm in another discord with Guan and he mentioned that he was in the video. I thought he was just one of the background people in 3rd or something. When I watched the video however, I was shocked by how important that find was and it was really cool to realize that I was talking to someone legendary like that and didn't even know it. I'm glad you guys could put it together to make that shortcut happen.
Super cool to hear about. It makes sense that a game with a stronger non-sc scene could have great potential for remaining shortcuts even this far after release.
Yo, imaging Sascha sees this video and comes roaring back 😂
Dropping world records for every course at the same time, as revenge for what happened to his title reign
No.
I love how each game's community has their own methods of documentation, leading to a very different style of Storytelling each video
*Bro says a name I’ve never heard before*
Me: …
*Bro says a name I’ve never heard before but with intense synth behind it*
Me: LETS GOOOOOOO
19:14 you understand times have changed when 6 hours a day of gaming is considered abnormal
Yeah, 6 hours a day in the speedrunning community is abnormal now as well, just abnormally low.
“He has no life” “all he does is play all day”
My reaction watching the history of Lego Star Wars WRs when Salt talks about the kid that decided he had to go from 14 hour to 16 hour to 18 hour grinds
8 hours is now considered normal lol
well i think that was more for speed running. back then there were a lot of degens who played all day but speedrunning wasn’t as popular so speedrunners didn’t do that
A couple hours a week on the internet used to be considered addicted
NAAAAA, they did my boy Sascha dirty as fuck. He kept up the competition for all of them. And he was left alone just to get stabbed in the back. RIP Sascha
I feel bad for Sasha, all his opponents went silent so he was playing alone and end up losing interest, just to find out they where playing together behind his back. That must be a giant sucker punch that just killed his interest in the game.
@@RealCutieMutie EXACTLY! Amen brother
Eh, to me he just got hit with his own move, it was pretty funny and with just the context of this video, he didn't seem the greatest at being humble
That guy sounded like he was just an asshole tbh. Zero humility and bragging 24/7. Maybe they were all kids back then, lacking in maturity. Still
The idea of anybody thinking they should police how quickly or frequently times are submitted is a total joke to me. You get the best time, you're the best. That's it.
"These are the best players to ever touch MarioKart DS"
Mark Jones: 🥶
43:30 I was joking about Mark Jones with the comeback and for a second I thought I just made the craziest prediction in my life lmao
@@matthewroth4078me 2 haha
I like to imagine that Sascha has been silently grinding for 17 years just building up the records to release them all at once.
Sascha and MKDasher: "Oh I...thought you were dead?"
Thomas Bolton: "My death was...greatly exaggerated."
"but at least... Thomas Bolton...!"
"...is dead?"
thomas, guilio, fabien: we're back b-tch
Somehow, Thomas Bolton returned.
he should've been banned for his underhanded tactics
@@rich.wishesseems odd to ban someone for something that wasn't against the rules and was tolerated and encouraged by a majority of the community.
I’m glad that MKDasher and Taiga are the champions. They play fair and they’re good sports. Hope Sascha can make a return.
I already know who one guy is
Imagine finding some person destroying a decade+ worth of records online and every interaction with him you find out its actually from his mother telling you what he's saying because she won't let him talk to strangers online since he's literally 13 years old. So all your records are getting destroyed by some guy half your age who can't even vote or drink or sign up yet
> So all your records are getting destroyed by some guy half your age who can't even vote or drink or sign up yet
Legal drinking ages are much lower in much of Europe, where many of our champions are from. (There are some limits on who can purchase alcohol, but it's typically fully legal for your parents to let you have small amounts of non-distilled alcohol, eg beer or wine. And even the ages limits on purchasing by yourself are much lower than in the US.)
Edit: oh, you are talking about the eleven year old Taiga from Japan. Legal drinking age is 20 there.
🤓
i play in a band and we have been absolutely mogged live by a collection of 14 year olds doing a note-for-note perfect cover of megadeth's tornado of souls
fucking legend, in my game of choice rocket league the pro scene is dominated by 12 yr old prodigies and if you are over 18 your an old washed player its actually insane why are these kids sooo fucking good...
@@veryscaryreaper8883 I saw that video too 😭
"...but that was nearly 20 years ago"
The collective sounds of old bones crackling could deafen an entire stadium you don't gotta do us like that man
Perfect timing, I now have something to watch while procrastinating the 1000 things I need to do
real bro
I was worried for a minute I’d have to actually do some of my work.
What a coincidence ! Same here.
Time to play the mini games again
I should work on my video essays..
SS: "put these foolish ambitions to rest."
I cannot wait to see a Mario Kart Wii History. Tears will fall when I see that post notification
frfr it needs to happen, im expecting a pt 3 to ultra shortcuts bc many have been found!
Im waiting for the Reflex interview on Evul :D
It’s literally already out. You know maybe check his most popular video? Might be too much to expect from an influencer tho
@@ZainTheRapper5 year diference tho
Perhaps he meant as in a update me thinks
@@ZainTheRapperfor ultra shortcuts yeah. but not world record holders
43:27 Ok…that was actually a pretty funny bait-n-switch. Kinda cool that Ben, who had been there for almost the entire time, was able to get the top spot after years of sitting in the background of the top players
I was popping off haha
I was tweaking as the camera zoomed in and then died at the switch - very well executed
I was saying, "no fuckin way..." 😂
I went "Imagine it's Mark oh wait oh s--- HAHAHA" and then stopped paying attention for a couple of seconds so when I went back and saw Ben I was like "ah yeah classic salt"
Me: "No wayyyyyyyy......."
Me: "Ok that was good."
0:49:48 thats me there at rank 24. Salt, I want to thank you so much for what you do. Watching your MK64 videos introduced me to speedrunning. Now more than 5 years in this great community its come full circle. PRB is nice, but I am a NON-PRB player, currently ranked 6th. Maybe one day ill be the NON-PRB Champion lol.😂
Do it bro
You should go for it! It would be so cool!
Let's goo doc
Even 6th is mindblowing
Go for it!!
As someone who competed against Sascha in the German scene, it felt good to know that he was a beast even on a global scale. Dude never talked about it in the local scene. He was pretty shy and friendly. Winning every single tournament, even by late 2007. Absolutely sucks what they did to him. Sascha deserved better.
Why, what happened to him?
@Mychron93 I think it's just the generally poor treatment he got from the community while he held the PRB title. The whole "loser who only plays mkds" thing. Even if you're bar-none the best at something, hearing someone, or a group of people denigrate you because of that accomplishment can take a real mental toll. Sascha might have been coy with how he interacted with the community (😎 and not providing videos), but seeing people you at least respect enough to compete with constantly just go to personal criticisms and attacks hurts.
It's so upsetting to me the more I hear about it because he seemed like they were mad he was just better than everybody. That's so exciting for a player to be that good, it makes me so mad what they did.
Yeah it feels shitty, like yeah he plays a lot but that’s how you become the best in the world. And for a world record holder 6 hours a day really isn’t that insane. But he got bullied off the server and probably didn’t come back because of that poor treatment and how the community responded to the record coup, which was undoubtably a really shitty move.
Pretty hypocritical of them to accuse Sascha of having no life, whilst simultaneously caring so much about MKDS that they pulled a stunt like this.
i appreciate that you got closer to the real pronunciation of "david roldan" instead of going with the full english pronunciation most people do. It's really the small details that make these videos really great :D
Every time there’s a long pause before a name is revealed, I always expect it to be Matt Turk
The boogie man of speedrunning lol
"the amount sacsha plays isnt normal" ofc the amount a world record holder plays isnt normal lmao
Kinda felt bad for him. Sounds like a socially awkward person who got bullied out of the game.
Yeah hearing “he has no life and only plays the game” didn’t sit right with me. The whole point of competing for wr times is to master the game ???
@@benh5541 Yeah this was my first thought as well, feel bad for the guy.
Not posting video footage (hiding strats) is super frowned upon though. There should've been a rule to require video footage. But that doesn't excuse bullying.
Maybe because no one as a world record played as much as Sascha?
Assuming Sasha used his real name and it had an ‘ä’ instead of the ‘a’ in ‘Brauninger’, wich would be the normal german spelling, he might have stopped because he had just started a physics degree and is now a PHD in physics, lol.
That would be absolutely wild, if true. Is that a common name?
@@pineapplequeen13 no not really. Brauninger could also be a valid German last name
I want to believe this just because it's a hilarious payoff to the entire community telling him he no life beyond the game.
@@JE281 Neither are common, but ‘Bräuninger’ or ‘Breuninger’ you can at leat find a decent amount of.
‘Brauninger’, while technically a valid spelling, would be REALLY rare.
If you look it up in the phonebook for example, there’s 148 results for the Various spellings of ‘Bräuninger’, but not a single one for ‘Brauniger’.
I was curious to see if this was really the case. Comparing his old speedrunner photo with the ones I saw on Google Image, it seems he's more of a senior project manager in a Pricing and Product Management team.
ty as always for making these, the way u put these videos into story arcs with peaks and falls its genuinely so well done its my favourite content to watch
Thomas Bolton violated Swiss neutrality with that comeback
I was uh not expecting to show up in a Summoning Salt video anytime soon, I'm gonna be honest.
The first player to do the Luigi's Mansion shortcut right here, and one of the three players to find the rest.
Thank you for your contributions to history! 👍
@@hexacockadrom_7898 wowie thank you for the kind words!
It's funny how this channel has gone from videos about people Summoning Salt is a big fan of to videos about people who are big fans of Summoning Salt
@@tiger5869 it's crazy innit
Seeing "Guanlong" just reminds me of Guan in Fossil Fighters, and now I want to go replay that game lol
14:09 “you only win because you play the game more!!!” I don’t believe that poster thought that one through real well lmao
No fair, you just have better finger coordination than I do!
Its an argument a lot of people make at grassroots level competition. "Natural talent vs nerd". Obviously its not a legitimate criticism but its funny how often that mentality cropped up in the early 2000s
@@pokeman123451100%. I used to hear it in Smash all the time. You couldn’t play the game too much or take it too seriously back in the mid 2000s.
That being said, I also don’t care for the sweaty, optimize-the-fun-out-of-every-game approach that we have now, so who knows what’s really best.
@@kode-man23 As long as the goal is to win, people will find a way to remove the fun out of any game be it video games or actual sports for the sake of optimizing your play. It doesn't have to be in a tournament setting for it to be the case either. Since the only fun that matters is you winning.
@kode-man23 I mean its a competition. Thi is how every competition works, this is like telling athletes they're not as fun as they used to be
youre honestly such an amazing storyteller- the way you can literally make me gasp from seeing a few new pixels appear on a graph (?) is so impressive
Being part of the Mario Kart DS community since 2006 has been so fun, and seeing the game get its chance in the spotlight has been such a pleasure. Thank you for sharing our community's story with the world!
Since only 2006? What a noob. ❤
What’s your favorite track and character?
We miss you, Kmacc. 😢
@@dntn31 who are you
@@Ruinatior Mark Jones
Taiga showed up and straight up said "The future is now old man!"
43:30 I literally ROFLMAO'd after that whole thing with Mark Jones' name being zoomed in, signaling his return, just to inmediately shift to Ben Stoneman's right there 🤣
Amazing video! I really enjoyed it, keep it going !
43:31 I have to admit. When you zoomed into Mark Jones. I shouted "HE CAME BACK!?!"
The reveal that David Roldan was MKDasher literally dropped my jaw.
Damnit stop scrolling through the comments, me
@@Logboy2000relatable, i didnt get spoiled but i scroll through the comments before finishing a video for some reason
14:10
"Oh well, the only reason you're ahead is you're more dedicated!"
???
Mentalities were different back then. Gaming was not something you could be doing full time, if you did, you were considered a loser by society no matter what. I think this comment somewhat translates to "not fair you have free time to play because you have no life"
the irony of speedrunners of all people bullying a fellow speedrunner for having no life because they play the game so much lmao
This was back in 2005 - 2007ish games and gaming as a hobby was much different.
@@vapecattbut the point stands that speedrunners especially tend to no life a game to an extent to get to the top tier.
audio kicks in and its already epic - thank you for what you do - its so enjoyable to watch and experience!!
Thank you for covering our community’s history so meticulously!
Mario Kart DS has been a huge part of my teenage years; I’m proud to have served it with times and news updates for the PP back in the day, and I’m thankful for all the memories this game and its amazing players have given me.
As we used to say back then: MKDS will never die :)
good to see you Nicola!
IDOLO
hi Nicola
Nicola!
@@Mikeyekimaple Hey! ❤️❤️
"They said that Sascha had no life, that Mario Kart DS was his own passion".
The irony of saying this while currently arguing in the Mario Kart speed running forums 😭
And stockpiling records offline just so they could beat him.
Sasha may have been an ass in some regards but I do hope he is well.
He had no videos lol@@CommissarMitch
@@lotgxj9 So? Neither did anyone else in that time. I hope he is doing well.
@@CommissarMitch Did you watch the video at all??? The others actually submitted video proof of all their records.
It's not a coincidence that soon after action replays enabled proper gameplay videos that he stopped getting new records. Then when the other three posted all of theirs, he just up and left the community without a trace.
@@dddgaming885 Fair. Just find it silly in a way.
You’re clearly in a class of your own. Basically inventing this genre of content. The opening tone of your vids is a unique signature, and yet it gives me pangs of nostalgia.
23:15 bro was talking about how sascha had no life the proceeds to play more than him 💀
In 2008 Sascha submitted some times for Mario Kart Wii, but after that no signs of living
Hopefully he's living and thriving in whatever he does now
He was so good they literally killed his entire interest in mario kart.
@@pander3975 he could be playing with his children atm
@@ecciq
The more I think about it the more it makes me upset what they did. He was so insanely good that he was beating their records in 2 hours.
@@maruwapofilms815 Yeah they were nothing but bullies
That moment when a 11YO strolls in and casually destroys people who were doing WRs when he was still in diapers.
that's like Blue Scuti with tetris
It was kinda cathartic after they all had to collude and vault records to beat Sascha
@@terra_sussy255Tetris having 2 people under 18 playing the game completely is wild and amazing
"That was almost 20 years ago!" Yeah never say something like that to me again please
Taiga is gonna grow up NEVER touching grass but will still probably make millions as a pro gamer/speedrunner. Good for him!!!
Thank you for making this video! I'm not a speedrunner by any means, but it's mesmerizing watching others play so smooth and fast in games I've played and don't play. So fascinating. Keep up the amazing work and showcasing some of the most interesting run histories from every game, no matter how small! (I'm quiet partial to mario kart tbh lol)
23:10 moments like this always give me goosebumps. Seeing just a long blue line appear on a graph, but understanding that behind it lay YEARS of a single player dominating the competition - absolutely jaw-dropping... and the epic music as a cherry on top. Great video as always!
agreed
That moment was pathetic and gross and those three cowards should feel ashamed, as should anybody who sees glory in such scummy behaviour
That long stretch of blue would be mad impressive if he didn't bully the player that was clearly better than him. He eliminated the better player rather than beat them.
Super cool video!! Taiga was really something else. I remember when he got a world record on Wario Stadium where each of the 3 laps was the best known split, and then did it again a month later or something. And his Figure-8 Circuit record that was within 2 frames of the sum of best known splits, which he has since beaten twice. And of course, his 1+ second lead on Bowser Castle that persists to this day. My jaw dropped at every video he uploaded.
It makes it all the crazier that MKDasher was still- though barely- just better than him. It shined brightest with these shortcuts, MKDasher is a FREAK at those.. I remember when he hit 3/3 Luigi's Mansion shortcut, no one else had even hit it one time.
Having top players like these two playing the game is such a treat, to me they are the best players of all time in any Mario Kart game.
Thank you so much for this video!! I'm glad this story can be shared with more people :) and it was cool to learn more of the history of the game as well!!
I can't believe they made a video about the world champion of Mario Kart DS, me at 8 years old playing past my bedtime.
taiga?
I am finally a college student. Watched the Tetris one just before coming to college. I am depressed beyond belief. Had to withdraw from 1 class and am borderline failing another. But this song still hits different with all the emotions coming out. Thank you for what I expect to be another fantastic video about speedrunning. You have made my and many others lives better and for that I thank you.
Keep going strong! Things get better, trust me. Life is the best gift you have ever received. You will see this!
Taiga being 11 literally made me do a spit take
35:13 Shortcutting the word shortcut to make the video quicker? Salt, you cheeky lad! Yet another educational video from the best in the business.
The MKDasher reveal near the middle of the video had me double taking at my screen irl like some insane plot twist in a video game. That was insane, love the video
I genuinely think your voice and the way you edit is the only combo in the world that could get me to watch an hour long documentary on a game that I could not care less about. Legend.
i have had a really rough month and honestly being able to watch this and eat my noodles really helped me calm down so i can focus on finding a new job thank you man
Enjoy your noodles man, hope you find a new job soon, good luck to ya!
@@toneyblazethank you i’m actually doing much better now !
Pretty cool to see some of the early champs and top players be ancient melee players like Stelzig, Azen and Zgetto. Great video salt, this was a really cool spin on what you usually do. Was also nice to see a big focus on the people moreso than the game this time around, you're good at keeping people engaged no matter the topic
omg ricky :O
as someone who got into melee and mkds at around the same time it was really weird to see that there was overlap between the players XD
was gonna say hello at ESA this winter this year but I was just very busy :P
I just learned of Sascha’s existence and I already miss him.
I think Salt's videos are some of the best on RUclips in regards to content creation. Consistently top star presentation man
“….Ben Stoneman.” 🤣🤣 That took me out!
The slow pan to Mark Jones was PERFECT
Usain Bolt and Thomas Bolton. Perfect names for competitive racers.
43:30 Nah man, this transition was vile🤣
"They aren't good they just play all the time!" Yeah, that is generally how people get really good at things.
My man Sascha was bullied relentlessly, then ganged up on by 3 other players, who left the game and drained all the fun of playing from it, before coming back to take the record with vaulted videos.
Insane to me that anyone was okay with this, let alone encouraged it. Only in 2007 ig
to be fair, as explained in the video, they were practically taking down everyone's records, always commenting on them as a kind of mock towards others with the constant emojis and that feel of overconfidence that surrounded them. also, we don't really know what happened to them after that comeback from the other top players all those years before, aside from a comment that clearly takes the movement with joy and a hint of a comeback from their part, so saying that it drained the fun out of them may be a bit of a stretch.
@@sushyhacecosasNone of what Sascha posted was anything more than friendly banter lol. If they got butt hurt over that they all need therapy. Normal human beings don't get offended by "thanks for the new strat 😎"
@@rh7474sounds like you're butthurt 😎
First response here is accurate. I think there would be less antagonism if he was less snarky about it. Also a lot of his times had no proof whatsoever, so there is a chance when push came to shove he actually couldn't beat their times and actually gave up because of that.
another thing that makes me a little bit more ok with it is that Sascha wasn't submitting runs with video proof either, and clearly at some point the emojis pissing people off would have made it clear that he was being seen as a villain and if he didn't want that he could have stopped with it. problem is that he kept doing it. Thomas doing it is still underhanded but I also don't think Sascha was entirely blameless, at least from the stuff in this video.
Gotta love a new Summoning Salt video
22 second-old video, never been this early. But for Summoning Salt, you drop it all ❤️
Damn right lol, im telling my boss im sick
Sure do. I commented the same this. I know what's important in life. Man. What a time to be alive.
Only creator I have notifications set on for
Yeah I just told my gf "sorry I know what I'm doing for the next hour."
This game left a permanent callus on my thumb from so much drift boosting.
I rly like your videos and I could rewatch them like once in 2 weeks (all of them), for me, it is neutral gaming journalism and you are very well informed.
I don't even mind if you bring up a video once in a month or so, the videos are that good and that entertaining that it is worth the waiting.
So like you are saying "Thanks for watching" I have to say thanks for uploading your work!
43:30 half expected you to say Matt Turk 😂😂😂
I'm always hoping for a Matt Turk appearance.
It should totally be a running joke to say Matt Turk in every video lol
i hated that i waited for that too lmao
One of my absolute favorite things about these gaming docs is the inevitable crossover between communities. Hearing Azen's name (6:50) and then seeing Zgetto's tag and name shortly after (7:56) was a welcome surprise (very accomplished Melee players, Azen was probably 2nd in the world around the time he held the champion title).
Great piece as always, continues the streak of fantastic MK stories from you.
Ahaha i knew it. I just commented asking a few minutes ago. Thats sick.
Damn I never noticed that azen was there I knew he was just good at games but did t expect this one
43:31 the zoom in on mark then the cut to ben made me audibly laugh😭😭
[2nd, 3rd, and 4th place players all disappear]
Sascha: "Those chickens are up to something…"
Can't get over how Sacha was so good the top 3 had to band together and bully him out of playing forever 💀
He was acting like a jackass so its cool💪💪
@@mikewebsters4119 was he doing anything beyond poaching peoples times and using emojis like he showed in the video? cause if the 2-4 runners spent genuine time shit talking him and then intentionally colluded to box him out because he was better than them and bragged about it that's not a fun speedrunning story that's just loser shit.
@@maruwapofilms815 That is a toxic way of looking at it. They didn't collude to "box him out," they colluded to challenge and inspire each other to better themselves because they loved the game and were healthily passionate about the competition. You also must not forget that Sascha's records were lacking in proof while theirs weren't. It is absolutely wrong of you to believe that Sascha has any sort of moral high ground here it's both wrong and hypocritical of you to accuse his rivals of "loser shit."
Idk man it feels more ‘loosery’ for you and your top leaderboard buddies to go offline, collude and grind records together without anyone knowing then drop them all at once to box someone out bc you got upset you couldn’t beat records or keep pace. Maybe it was weird Sasha didn’t have record proof at times, but this was pre 2010s WR which was common, and the emojis didn’t read passive aggresive to me. I think it’s Lame someone got pushed out bc three whole people couldn’t just take a challenge on the chin.
I'm so upset with Thomas. That was so mean
An excellent video and a beautiful documentation of what makes our community great. Thanks for making this!
When I heard "for the last 20 years.. " I realized my childhood is going away and I appreciate you for making these videos! Keep up the good work and keep these banger back round song around :)
the Mario Kart docs are my absolute favorites! just when I think they’re over, a new one pops up a few months later. thank you so much @summoningsalt … I hope there are more Mario kart topics to be covered in the future 😎
It's like when you're playing a shooter like CoD and some 10yr old kid pops out of nowhere and destroys everyone.
As someone that played Mario Kart DS's online a LOT in the 00s, I really appreciate this video. I remember hoping to rank up against the best of the Mario Kart DS scene back in that era, and whilst I don't know if I ever did, it was still a meaningful thing to've done.
I never was that good at the time trials though, hahaha.
Do you remember your name and win losses? Perhaps we played :)
I’m glad Summoning Salt acknowledged that what happened at 21:29 would be completely unacceptable by today’s standards, this immediately made me think of the Matthias MK64 video where the rival ended up hiding his records to post them all at once and avoid competition
Sascha posting zero proof of any of his records and being able to use that as a tech advantage would also be totally unacceptable today.
@@Loalrikowki Yeah, In speedrunning today if anyone posts a claim about a new record and there's no video proof, at best they get a 'cool story, bro' and at worst they get banned for trying to deceive people.
Yeah, I thought of that controversy too. That was one hell of a mess.
Though it looks like MR is back to setting times again, he recently got world records on Kalimari Desert and Yoshi Valley for Non-SC 3Lap, which is pretty nice
isnt that exactly what sacha was doing though, seemed like he was time hoarding like the tetris video just not called out on it
@@6letterss it's the opposite (at least early in the video). Mf breaking records instantly the moment someone else did