when you press the notes during focus strike on beat it each one does damage and if you do every note on beat you get a better finisher for your focus strike.
Fun fact: you can use offset melody during a performance without breaking it. You can load three songs, play two, use off set, the finish with the third, all without breaking the performance
6:16 If you queue up multiple songs, you can press Triangle + Cricle after playing a song to immediatly play the encore and end the performance early. This way you don't have to play all the songs you have in queue, if you only want to play one or two of them.
I was actually so disappointed when playing rise, when my performances were removed. While i did like some kind of hyperarmor/dodge move there was just something missing. But now we get the best of both worlds with normal performacnes/encore AND offset attack. Bubble is also SO NICE. when not having queued up a high value/high dmg song, but the monster was downed, i can lay a bubble and simultaneously queue up a song, and then go right into performances/encore. Dooting has never beend this fun. feeling the weight on each hit. Also the whole timing aspect both for the wound/bubble AND performance mode raises the skill ceiling, and gives a statisfying feeling. Now I still kind of suck at timing the performanc inputs, but its still so much fun though.
Two things I'd like to add: 1.The timing to the focus strike is a bit delayed. You have to hit the notes when the red waves enter the mouth of the saxophone in this case. If you get them all 5 of them right you get the big finisher. 2.Echo bubble has hyper armor right at the end of the animation. I love the changes they made here. World's HH pales in comparison.
9:02 You can play different notes with these moves btw. You don't have to play the same note again. If you press forward + circle and then press triangle you can play red+white in one move. Same for the yellow one.
Wilds combines the best of World horn with the best of Rise horn with a bunch of cool stuff like finally giving performances flavor and I'm here for it
@@UnaPinata yeah rise was a bit too far into the simplicity and speed, world horn was great but sometimes you end up just sitting there playing melody without being super active, this is such a great change to make it more active without erasing its identity
@@100_pesosassuming proportional star levels, difficulty rankings for me go like this 1 - (Hardest) 4- (Easiest) It goes like this: 1) Doshaguma 2) Rey Dau 3) Balahara 4) Chatacabra
This is the best it’s ever been, no joke. Also the most complicated. I learned all kinds of stuff hunting Chatacabra at sub 30 fps with lowest possible graphics (no PS1 graphics, thank you RAM)
when you do direction input and red note you can cancel the second hit in case you see the monster gonna attack or you arent positioned right. also you can hold the offset melody after you press it. good if you know a move is coming and you wanna wait for it before releasing it
@@HiImRiv same and I’m almost bothered by this haha I’m a hammer main in world but have my 2nd most hours in HH I barely touched hammer , I actually don’t like it as much anymore but that’s for a different video I’ve been going HH all the way!
At least from my experience, part of the difficulty of the Echo Bubble is that it seems to default to Dodge if you push the buttons while actually moving in a direction. I need to check, because on PC you can bind special Combo buttons for keyboard, if that problem still happens with that, because if so then it may just be down to timing. But in my experience doing the Echo Bubble is much more consistent if you stop moving first. Which if you're a dooter you need to start practicing stopping and turning around anyways so you can hit monsters on the Back-Swing of your Double Note, aka The Grifted.
Slight correction. The trigger pulls during performance are "performance beats". Encore is done at the end of the performance by using the yellow note.
@placeholder24678 the performance beat puts the buffs into level 2. Encore will trigger the offensive ones again. It's a very different division from world or rise.
@daishzen it seems that encore plays both buffs and attack songs again when triggered. Performance beats don't play the songs again during the performance unless triggered after the last song then it acts like an encore. I think playing an encore with the 3 echo waves queued will combine all 3 waves into one attack, useful for wake ups.
@@placeholder24678 yes, but if you've done the performance beats, then playing the buff so gs again doesn't really have an effect in encore since you'll already be at level 2 of the song. The damage ones will actually give a benefit in the encore with all that bonus damage
Idk if this is already confirmed but I hope echo bubbles buffs differs between all hunting horns. Like this one gives you speed up and another hunting horn gives you an elemental attack up!
Offset melody is a stance, you can activate the stance and prep for the attack. Doesn’t need to be immediate that you swing, you will remain the stance for a couple seconds it seems
Someone's probably mentioned it already but you can hold offset melody and then time it. You go into this cool final f as ntasy like stance and you can hold it for a pretty long time!
If you are having trouble timing the weapon flash, I found it easier to watch the flash on the music measure on the upper left. There's a more distinct animation flash there.
I plan on using HH in conjunction with Gunlance since I intend to utilize the buffs to further enhance my character and Gunlance playstyle. But having this guide in mind will assist me if I do plan on getting adept with the weapon as a secondary choice for combat.
Not sure if people know with the offset move. when you want to use it, If you hold the input buttons, the hunter will do the first part of the move then stay there so when you release the buttons he will do the smash part. makes it easier to time the attack.
Yeah, me too. Seeing the state of IG on Wilds, I moved to my secondary weapons and I am having way more fun with HH and Lance. Heck I even wanna try to get better with other weapons because they feel so nice compared to Iceborne or Sunbreak. Big off that IG was shafted so bad it didn't even get an offset move
The game is phenomenal. Sadly none of my mates will be able to play this any time soon. I wonder how much worse it's going to be with Denuvo. I capped my frames at 70, 2k with DLAA+Framegen and it's pretty solid, only drops when entering the tents and any type of transition like that. I've a 4070 ti, though... anything below that range is going to struggle. AMD users have it worse, FSR looks nasty as hell.
I'm starting to get it, but those whole extra notes and offset melodies will take a while! But m/kb made things difficult for me in mhw because of my mouse side buttons, they just added an extra layer of confusion. Like one of them was repeat or something Idk. So I just played a lot and figured out what worked for weapons, but the HH was very confusing for me in world. Thankfully that's not a problem inWilds so far lol. This is a great guide, thx!
Before the beta I was divided between gunlance and switch axe, but after I stunlock chatacabra without practice with this weapon I realised that I`m going to be a bard.
Yeah Echo attack was good but I like it better now that it's leaning more into the musical sound waves. Can't wait to get the Horns with that massive Echo blast.
Note even though it says the echo bubble hits every note it is actually every swing. Double note moves like flourish and smash will only proc the bubble once. This isn't GU you don't need to find a small monster to set up a song.😂
Hey Rurikhan !! Theres a Pole Vault attack idk if youve found out how to do, its an easy monster mount, ive accidentally done it like 4 times. It was at 54 seconds of the hunting horn reveal aswell
(As can be seen in the replies, I have been proven wrong on this.) If I remember correctly, I don't think the buffs stay active on yourself once you swap weapons
I've tried pocket horning and I just can't be bothered. The only time I pocket horn is with multiplayer and buffing while riding on seikret between areas.
I've played hunting horn for so long now that when I try to use any other weapon I just can't, or I'm way worse. Super fun weapon to master, I recommend Deus' old guides from world he either was or still is on Team Darkside and is my defacto Hunting horn player like how rurikahn is my defacto Gunlance player.
It does look fun, but there's no way I can remember and properly use so many mechanics. Just the directional attacks are almost too much (I tried in World and couldn't even do melody combos against the training dummy).
Can't wait wait for DB! Cause I've randomly picked them up after not touching them since FU. I'm having fun, but I don't know what the fuck I'm doing half the time lmao
with PC players becoming a dominant majority of the community its probably a good idea to take a peek at the fighting games community when describing combos just saying "xy/ab/triangle O" with all the joysticks out there is just confusing and lets not forget you can remap controls just saying light, heavy, special is so much better and works for every console and joystick there are
@@rurikhan i only have a switch controller around so putting those inputs for reference in case i got something wrong on the PS controller example for GS PS: O - horizontal slash Triangle - vertical slash R2 - block/tackle R1 - focus mod/gimmick SWITCH: X - horizontal slash A - vertical slash ZR - block/tackle R - focus mod/gimmick universal input nomination: L(ight) - horizontal slash H(eavy) - vertical slash S(pecial) - block/tackle G(immick ) - focus mod/gimmick where the special is usually reserved for your blocks kinsect commands etc. [L] input inside square brackets means charge ]L[, input inside reverse square brackets means release charge... we dont have those in MH but for the sake of completion its there there isnt a good way to go with the focus since its a gimmick and in the next game it will be different so that why im suggesting to call it for what it is but dont think its going to be very confusing if we go with F(ocus mod) D(dash/dodge) & I(interact) & U(use) - these 3 are completely unnecessary but in case someone brings the up its here... no idea what the slinger during unsheathe weapon is on a controller but for PC its 'G' + scroll press so since im not sure if the sling is the new normal or still just a gimmick lets call it either SG for sling gimmick or just SL for sling all of this is just a suggestion and subject to changes as the stuff the FGC are using are not exactly translatable 1 to 1 but regardless i think we can learn something from them if you are interested on the topic here is the title of a youtube video that explains it well: "Speak & Learn Numpad Notation from 2A to 63214Z -- Fighting Game Language Guide" no link since youtube doesnt like putting links in comments but it should be the first suggestion in the search i would be interested to hear what other creators think of this as well so if you bring the topic in one of the 3rd fleet podcast or khan's anvil that would be great
when you press the notes during focus strike on beat it each one does damage and if you do every note on beat you get a better finisher for your focus strike.
Also when making bubbles
Does the note order matter or is it purely a time thing?
@@kenpachiramasama1139 purely time based
It’s any note, for Focus strike, echo bubbles, for Hilt stab, or snuck in after the two long notes (the ones not used for Self-improvement)
Fun fact: you can use offset melody during a performance without breaking it. You can load three songs, play two, use off set, the finish with the third, all without breaking the performance
6:16
If you queue up multiple songs, you can press Triangle + Cricle after playing a song to immediatly play the encore and end the performance early.
This way you don't have to play all the songs you have in queue, if you only want to play one or two of them.
That's huge, thanks
10:54 you can hold down R2 and the hunter will stay in like a ready stance until you release R2. Makes it easier to time the actual attack sometimes.
Jesus, that's so helpful. Thanks a ton mate!
only up to a few seconds. and they say the starting animation has some
I'm so glad they put more shortcut for the notes
HH going back to more like the world version is a delight. It’s ridiculously fun now!
I was actually so disappointed when playing rise, when my performances were removed. While i did like some kind of hyperarmor/dodge move there was just something missing.
But now we get the best of both worlds with normal performacnes/encore AND offset attack.
Bubble is also SO NICE. when not having queued up a high value/high dmg song, but the monster was downed, i can lay a bubble and simultaneously queue up a song, and then go right into performances/encore.
Dooting has never beend this fun.
feeling the weight on each hit.
Also the whole timing aspect both for the wound/bubble AND performance mode raises the skill ceiling, and gives a statisfying feeling. Now I still kind of suck at timing the performanc inputs, but its still so much fun though.
Two things I'd like to add:
1.The timing to the focus strike is a bit delayed. You have to hit the notes when the red waves enter the mouth of the saxophone in this case. If you get them all 5 of them right you get the big finisher.
2.Echo bubble has hyper armor right at the end of the animation.
I love the changes they made here. World's HH pales in comparison.
9:02
You can play different notes with these moves btw. You don't have to play the same note again. If you press forward + circle and then press triangle you can play red+white in one move. Same for the yellow one.
Wilds combines the best of World horn with the best of Rise horn with a bunch of cool stuff like finally giving performances flavor and I'm here for it
@@UnaPinata yeah rise was a bit too far into the simplicity and speed, world horn was great but sometimes you end up just sitting there playing melody without being super active, this is such a great change to make it more active without erasing its identity
I think we shouldn't be worried about the dificulty level of the game any more. Still can't choose which wapon to play, all are to much fun
To be honest, even a 4 star Doshaguma was giving me some trouble. I'm not worried about difficulty at all, especially for the endgame
@@rainer9931 5 star Dosha is harder than the 5 star Rey Dau IMO.
@@100_pesos how can you find 5 star dosha?
@@100_pesosassuming proportional star levels, difficulty rankings for me go like this
1 - (Hardest)
4- (Easiest)
It goes like this:
1) Doshaguma
2) Rey Dau
3) Balahara
4) Chatacabra
I kinda agree I think it’s easier to manage dodging some of the larger monsters. I found myself healing way more often with doshaguma
This is the best it’s ever been, no joke. Also the most complicated. I learned all kinds of stuff hunting Chatacabra at sub 30 fps with lowest possible graphics (no PS1 graphics, thank you RAM)
you can hold stand pose of offset melody. just hold down the buttons and release them when you need to
when you do direction input and red note you can cancel the second hit in case you see the monster gonna attack or you arent positioned right. also you can hold the offset melody after you press it. good if you know a move is coming and you wanna wait for it before releasing it
Love this weapon. Not even bothering to use my second weapon in the beta
That’s honestly probably a good call
Double Horn might be one of the best same-type weapon duo because u can carry two song lists 😵💫
@@HiImRiv same and I’m almost bothered by this haha
I’m a hammer main in world but have my 2nd most hours in HH
I barely touched hammer , I actually don’t like it as much anymore but that’s for a different video
I’ve been going HH all the way!
Dude im gonna go with another horn! hahah
Playing HH is a mini rhythm game now and I love it.
Doot doot, hunters!
At least from my experience, part of the difficulty of the Echo Bubble is that it seems to default to Dodge if you push the buttons while actually moving in a direction. I need to check, because on PC you can bind special Combo buttons for keyboard, if that problem still happens with that, because if so then it may just be down to timing. But in my experience doing the Echo Bubble is much more consistent if you stop moving first.
Which if you're a dooter you need to start practicing stopping and turning around anyways so you can hit monsters on the Back-Swing of your Double Note, aka The Grifted.
Nice one. I've been a horn player forever, but I totally didn't discover all this stuff in the beta, can't wait till my next chance to play it now.
Slight correction. The trigger pulls during performance are "performance beats". Encore is done at the end of the performance by using the yellow note.
This. It's a pretty important distinction since the encore is for repeating the melodies while performance beat is for damage.
@placeholder24678 the performance beat puts the buffs into level 2. Encore will trigger the offensive ones again. It's a very different division from world or rise.
@daishzen it seems that encore plays both buffs and attack songs again when triggered. Performance beats don't play the songs again during the performance unless triggered after the last song then it acts like an encore. I think playing an encore with the 3 echo waves queued will combine all 3 waves into one attack, useful for wake ups.
@@placeholder24678 yes, but if you've done the performance beats, then playing the buff so gs again doesn't really have an effect in encore since you'll already be at level 2 of the song. The damage ones will actually give a benefit in the encore with all that bonus damage
Idk if this is already confirmed but I hope echo bubbles buffs differs between all hunting horns. Like this one gives you speed up and another hunting horn gives you an elemental attack up!
It is actually confirmed/explained in the ingame Play Guide. They will have different buffs/echo bubbles.
Attack up echo bubble gonna be broken @@godtiermullet
Offset melody is a stance, you can activate the stance and prep for the attack. Doesn’t need to be immediate that you swing, you will remain the stance for a couple seconds it seems
Someone's probably mentioned it already but you can hold offset melody and then time it. You go into this cool final f as ntasy like stance and you can hold it for a pretty long time!
If you are having trouble timing the weapon flash, I found it easier to watch the flash on the music measure on the upper left. There's a more distinct animation flash there.
Bonk and doot! Love seeing these new updates to the best weapon in the game. You bullied that little dude into being your coat! Bravo! "Encore"!
Patiently waiting for your Lance guide Ruri 😊😊
All 15 of us, Lance mains
Very nice. I love this weapon so much and I really like what the devs are doing with this.
You can hold the trigger for the offset and hold it ! it's so much easier tu pull it off !
PLEASE make a LS guide, I know how much you love us LS mains
Y’all gonna be the last videos
@@phenomenonnarutokunhow it should be.
There's so many LS mains with videos out already. Ratataskor, PwarGaming, Dear Gamer etc.
you can use offset melody while performing i believe
Yes mid performance and it doesn’t remove your songs !!
Anyone else a bit annoyed that on keyboard the echo bubble key combo is R + space? (i keep starting a recital or rolling lol)
You can hold the offset attack. Pre load the first bit of the animation, makes it easier to time.
you can delay offset attack by holding button, its super useful if you miss your timing and start to soon
I plan on using HH in conjunction with Gunlance since I intend to utilize the buffs to further enhance my character and Gunlance playstyle. But having this guide in mind will assist me if I do plan on getting adept with the weapon as a secondary choice for combat.
Just a quick tip! You can hold the offset attack to time it better!
Not sure if people know with the offset move. when you want to use it, If you hold the input buttons, the hunter will do the first part of the move then stay there so when you release the buttons he will do the smash part. makes it easier to time the attack.
Tried HH during the beta and damn if it didnt feel amazing, most likely gonna main in in Wilds.
Yeah, me too. Seeing the state of IG on Wilds, I moved to my secondary weapons and I am having way more fun with HH and Lance. Heck I even wanna try to get better with other weapons because they feel so nice compared to Iceborne or Sunbreak.
Big off that IG was shafted so bad it didn't even get an offset move
The game is phenomenal. Sadly none of my mates will be able to play this any time soon. I wonder how much worse it's going to be with Denuvo. I capped my frames at 70, 2k with DLAA+Framegen and it's pretty solid, only drops when entering the tents and any type of transition like that. I've a 4070 ti, though... anything below that range is going to struggle. AMD users have it worse, FSR looks nasty as hell.
Yeah I turned that off immediately as I was playing polygon and ghosting: wilds when I first booted it up
Amd Radeon 7800xt
I'm starting to get it, but those whole extra notes and offset melodies will take a while! But m/kb made things difficult for me in mhw because of my mouse side buttons, they just added an extra layer of confusion. Like one of them was repeat or something Idk. So I just played a lot and figured out what worked for weapons, but the HH was very confusing for me in world. Thankfully that's not a problem inWilds so far lol. This is a great guide, thx!
Oh heck yeah, right on time for tonight when I can finally play the beta. This coincidentally is also my main weapon!
HH and GL feel specially great this time. Holy Moly
U can also press Triangle and O to do an Encore earlier
Before the beta I was divided between gunlance and switch axe, but after I stunlock chatacabra without practice with this weapon I realised that I`m going to be a bard.
I haven't seen the video through yet, but HH has a sick assblasting charge attack and I'm not sure if Ruri talks about it in the video but it's sick.
Echo Bubbles aren’t new, but I am loving the changes from World! I’ll dust off my horn skills now
arent echo bubbles in past games too?
Whats the difference btweem performance beat and encore?
They made the musical weapon even more musical
So what 2 weapons would work well together. i think the daggers and bow but it'll be my 1st time getting in to MH wilds
hey did they got rid of the spinning move the hunting horn use to do in world ?
Yes
@@rurikhan damn that was so satisfying to do
Yeah Echo attack was good but I like it better now that it's leaning more into the musical sound waves. Can't wait to get the Horns with that massive Echo blast.
hope we have a full demo soon I already miss my sax a boom
Note even though it says the echo bubble hits every note it is actually every swing. Double note moves like flourish and smash will only proc the bubble once. This isn't GU you don't need to find a small monster to set up a song.😂
Hey Rurikhan !! Theres a Pole Vault attack idk if youve found out how to do, its an easy monster mount,
ive accidentally done it like 4 times.
It was at 54 seconds of the hunting horn reveal aswell
As a nuub the hunting horn felt so good!
It's about time you show a guide for a real weapon. Thanks Ruri ... appreciated
(As can be seen in the replies, I have been proven wrong on this.) If I remember correctly, I don't think the buffs stay active on yourself once you swap weapons
They do. The developers even told me it was intentional.
@rurikhan oh. My bad then. Thanks for setting me straight
I've tried pocket horning and I just can't be bothered. The only time I pocket horn is with multiplayer and buffing while riding on seikret between areas.
ON-core, not on-CORE. the emphasis is on the first syllable! FYI!
I play saxophone IRL. I am so stoked for HH in Wilds. It's challenging, but i like it better than World.
I've played hunting horn for so long now that when I try to use any other weapon I just can't, or I'm way worse. Super fun weapon to master, I recommend Deus' old guides from world he either was or still is on Team Darkside and is my defacto Hunting horn player like how rurikahn is my defacto Gunlance player.
Very satisfying to use an offset attack to knock rey dau out of the sky with a friggin saxophone.
Is he playing on pc or console? Why does his game look so good
Doot! Nuff said.😊
I'm hearing a distinct Christopher Walken in how you talk.
It does look fun, but there's no way I can remember and properly use so many mechanics. Just the directional attacks are almost too much (I tried in World and couldn't even do melody combos against the training dummy).
It just takes practice we all start somewhere!!
Lance next???
Can't wait wait for DB!
Cause I've randomly picked them up after not touching them since FU.
I'm having fun, but I don't know what the fuck I'm doing half the time lmao
A button screen would be great, I can't follow for some reason
Top right.
Echo bulle = 3 notes
Focus strike = 5 notes
Have fun, HH is incredible
with PC players becoming a dominant majority of the community its probably a good idea to take a peek at the fighting games community when describing combos
just saying "xy/ab/triangle O" with all the joysticks out there is just confusing and lets not forget you can remap controls
just saying light, heavy, special is so much better and works for every console and joystick there are
What do I say for R1 which considered sheathe / run and now Focus Strike?
@@rurikhan i only have a switch controller around so putting those inputs for reference in case i got something wrong on the PS controller
example for GS
PS: O - horizontal slash
Triangle - vertical slash
R2 - block/tackle
R1 - focus mod/gimmick
SWITCH:
X - horizontal slash
A - vertical slash
ZR - block/tackle
R - focus mod/gimmick
universal input nomination:
L(ight) - horizontal slash
H(eavy) - vertical slash
S(pecial) - block/tackle
G(immick ) - focus mod/gimmick
where the special is usually reserved for your blocks kinsect commands etc.
[L] input inside square brackets means charge
]L[, input inside reverse square brackets means release charge... we dont have those in MH but for the sake of completion its there
there isnt a good way to go with the focus since its a gimmick and in the next game it will be different so that why im suggesting to call it for what it is but dont think its going to be very confusing if we go with F(ocus mod)
D(dash/dodge) & I(interact) & U(use) - these 3 are completely unnecessary but in case someone brings the up its here...
no idea what the slinger during unsheathe weapon is on a controller but for PC its 'G' + scroll press so since im not sure if the sling is the new normal or still just a gimmick lets call it either SG for sling gimmick or just SL for sling
all of this is just a suggestion and subject to changes as the stuff the FGC are using are not exactly translatable 1 to 1 but regardless i think we can learn something from them
if you are interested on the topic here is the title of a youtube video that explains it well:
"Speak & Learn Numpad Notation from 2A to 63214Z -- Fighting Game Language Guide"
no link since youtube doesnt like putting links in comments but it should be the first suggestion in the search
i would be interested to hear what other creators think of this as well so if you bring the topic in one of the 3rd fleet podcast or khan's anvil that would be great
How to make a Monster Hunter Wilds mixtape featuring Rurikhan
The offset parry seems so underwhelming. Long startup, can't hold it long enough.
ah so thats the way the game is supposed to look like xD
I was 100% sure the next one was the lance.... I guess is not in the heart of ruri anymore
Think to try horn😊
Performance is so bad in this game it's kinda killed my excitement
Wait it's usable now! OOOOOOOOhhhhhhh yeah
Wow he wasn’t kidding on that stream lol. Workaholic indeed. 4am release and then another now 😂