That was a very well thought out comparison. There were very slight differences between saddle materials. I thought the Vintage sounded a little quieter or muffled compared to the Standard saddle, and Brass sounded a little louder and brighter than the Standard saddle. The differences were small, some perhaps due a little to picking strength and location. Not worth obsessing over unless you're going for the last 1 or 2% of the best tone possible. I use my tone knob all the time, and change my picking location to suit my tonal preferences. Thanks!
Just discovered your channel, thanks it's awesome! Although I can't discearn that much of a difference between sounds through my speakers. Do you ever run your samples through software, to further show a visual difference of the wave form? I heard a slight difference in the nut video, for sure, as well as the obvious sustain difference. Thank you for doing this, these are all actual things I'm interested in learning! But there seems to be no one to turn to? Experienced players seem to be so overwhelmed with the mythos surrounding the instrument, that they either can't be bothered to answer, or bark some incoherent statement about buying American only. Thanks again, greatly appreciated! Would the Tusk or graphite saddles make a further difference in sound as well, or jut make the string more slidey over it?
I've had problems with the stamped vintage cheap guitars because little screw can fail or become twisted. I think I prefer the bigger chunks of steel in modern saddles. But I was wondering if there's a difference. I have read that people do say that the brass does wear. My current absurd hypothesis is that when you're playing through lots of distortion you want to eliminate as much of the harmonics as you can, and so something that sounds kind of interesting clean would not be so great to highly distorted. And so I think that's why you probably don't want brass or steel and probably want some kind of cheaper alloy which is often what the guitar comes stock with anyway!
On a tunomatic type bridge I installed brass saddles and haven't broke a string over the bridge since. Got them out of a 1970s Ibanez bridge and they fit perfect into a Gibson bridge.
Good 👍 test set up. The standard saddle has a lot of body but is kinda muddy in sound, the Vintage bent Steel saddle is very bright, but kinda hollow, noticably not 🚫 full in body, but the solid brass saddle has very full bodied in Tone and has a natural warmth and brightness 🔆🔅, best of both worlds. I'll say the brass...
Changed my cvt to an all brass bridge It made it warmer... and more sustain but I lost the edgy pickup sound.. I like the look and sustain so I use an eq pedal to bring back to top end
The brass definitely sounded like it had a bit more low end to my ears. But there wasn't as much difference than I thought there would be. Maybe in combo with another nut it would be more pronounced. Interesting video mate!
I don't know if it's necessarily "brighter" (meaning more higher frequencies), to me it sounds like there's a resonance peak thats in the upper mid range on the brass, and in the lower mid for the standard one. It definitely gives it a tighter sound because of that, but I could also see it being a little overpowering if the pickups were already kinda harsh, it's the same reason strat bridge pickups sound "icepicky", because they peak in right around that same range
brass saddles are fab... I love a chrome plated steel baseplate...not all are. A steel baseplate resonates around the bridge pickup; some are chrome plated brass, which sounds radically different
Brass has a "ringing" type frequency after the note has been struck. It's not there unless you listen for it. Brass vs steel vs tusq is as much a "how you use it" thing as it is a "sound and tone" thing.
Thanks for doing all this! Suggestion: redo this with high gain as all the small diferences will get amplified and easier to hear. As I'm a metal player i cannot use brass for that genre as it's so pokey and shrill. Steel or titanium are best for chugging. Brass for cleans, blues and solos is suitable.
Well done experiment! I don't think my ears are trained enough to distinguish difference, but I WANT to say brass sounded better to me? I guess best lesson for me is that no matter how much work I put into modify or build some guitar, they only sound good if actual guitar player makes use of them...and NOT me. 😂 Now...about this giant guitar pickup you are constructing 😮😮😮...when will it be fitted to giant guitar? Because if you don't build giant guitar, Sniffer Customs is going to build giant guitar now. 😈🤘🤣
I prefer the brass saddles but the difference is slight. Not really enough to warrant me changing any bridge saddles. Good shout on the huge pickup. I wasn’t planning on doing that but it would be hilarious so I may have to
Is it just me or do they all sound about the same on attack, but the brass "blooms" where the others do not? IE: normal = boowwww and brass = bowaaAAaaoowwww".
That was a very well thought out comparison. There were very slight differences between saddle materials. I thought the Vintage sounded a little quieter or muffled compared to the Standard saddle, and Brass sounded a little louder and brighter than the Standard saddle. The differences were small, some perhaps due a little to picking strength and location. Not worth obsessing over unless you're going for the last 1 or 2% of the best tone possible. I use my tone knob all the time, and change my picking location to suit my tonal preferences. Thanks!
That’s a really good point. Where you pluck the string makes a far bigger difference than almost anything else
There is a pitch bending effect on the standard one. Brass stands longer until it “bends”
Brilliant. Thank you
Just discovered your channel, thanks it's awesome!
Although I can't discearn that much of a difference between sounds through my speakers.
Do you ever run your samples through software, to further show a visual difference of the wave form?
I heard a slight difference in the nut video, for sure, as well as the obvious sustain difference.
Thank you for doing this, these are all actual things I'm interested in learning!
But there seems to be no one to turn to?
Experienced players seem to be so overwhelmed with the mythos surrounding the instrument, that they either can't be bothered to answer, or bark some incoherent statement about buying American only.
Thanks again, greatly appreciated!
Would the Tusk or graphite saddles make a further difference in sound as well, or jut make the string more slidey over it?
nicely done.
To the point !! Shows very well the (small) differences !. I would say brass sounds a bit more lively, but that's listening through my cellphone...
Thanks mate. I couldn’t agree more and I was in the room while it happened
I've had problems with the stamped vintage cheap guitars because little screw can fail or become twisted. I think I prefer the bigger chunks of steel in modern saddles.
But I was wondering if there's a difference. I have read that people do say that the brass does wear.
My current absurd hypothesis is that when you're playing through lots of distortion you want to eliminate as much of the harmonics as you can, and so something that sounds kind of interesting clean would not be so great to highly distorted. And so I think that's why you probably don't want brass or steel and probably want some kind of cheaper alloy which is often what the guitar comes stock with anyway!
On a tunomatic type bridge I installed brass saddles and haven't broke a string over the bridge since. Got them out of a 1970s Ibanez bridge and they fit perfect into a Gibson bridge.
That’s a great tip. I’ve bought brass saddles for a tune o matic and they didn’t fit. How did you source a 70s Ibanez bridge ?
I actually love black string savers, I love the tone.
Good 👍 test set up. The standard saddle has a lot of body but is kinda muddy in sound, the Vintage bent Steel saddle is very bright, but kinda hollow, noticably not 🚫 full in body, but the solid brass saddle has very full bodied in Tone and has a natural warmth and brightness 🔆🔅, best of both worlds. I'll say the brass...
Changed my cvt to an all brass bridge
It made it warmer... and more sustain but I lost the edgy pickup sound.. I like the look and sustain so I use an eq pedal to bring back to top end
The brass definitely sounded like it had a bit more low end to my ears. But there wasn't as much difference than I thought there would be. Maybe in combo with another nut it would be more pronounced. Interesting video mate!
Thanks mate. Shooting a comparison today of brass nut and saddle combinations
@@PherotoneStudios Awesome!! Look forward to seeing your findings!
I don't know if it's necessarily "brighter" (meaning more higher frequencies), to me it sounds like there's a resonance peak thats in the upper mid range on the brass, and in the lower mid for the standard one. It definitely gives it a tighter sound because of that, but I could also see it being a little overpowering if the pickups were already kinda harsh, it's the same reason strat bridge pickups sound "icepicky", because they peak in right around that same range
brass saddles are fab... I love a chrome plated steel baseplate...not all are. A steel baseplate resonates around the bridge pickup; some are chrome plated brass, which sounds radically different
I've played on brass nuts, not saddles, but the difference was noticeable.
Brass has a "ringing" type frequency after the note has been struck. It's not there unless you listen for it. Brass vs steel vs tusq is as much a "how you use it" thing as it is a "sound and tone" thing.
Bros sacrificed his Tele for us. Can we give him a hand. But also daphuq is that humbucker doing on the side of the axe ?
Thanks for doing all this! Suggestion: redo this with high gain as all the small diferences will get amplified and easier to hear. As I'm a metal player i cannot use brass for that genre as it's so pokey and shrill. Steel or titanium are best for chugging. Brass for cleans, blues and solos is suitable.
Well done experiment! I don't think my ears are trained enough to distinguish difference, but I WANT to say brass sounded better to me? I guess best lesson for me is that no matter how much work I put into modify or build some guitar, they only sound good if actual guitar player makes use of them...and NOT me. 😂 Now...about this giant guitar pickup you are constructing 😮😮😮...when will it be fitted to giant guitar? Because if you don't build giant guitar, Sniffer Customs is going to build giant guitar now. 😈🤘🤣
I prefer the brass saddles but the difference is slight. Not really enough to warrant me changing any bridge saddles.
Good shout on the huge pickup. I wasn’t planning on doing that but it would be hilarious so I may have to
Is it just me or do they all sound about the same on attack, but the brass "blooms" where the others do not? IE: normal = boowwww and brass = bowaaAAaaoowwww".
I completely agree. That’s what I heard. I now try and put brass saddles on everything
If you didn't keep muting the strings we might of had the sustain
Brass all day bb
I don't hear the difference...