Lakers being at the top of the B tier is laughable and disrespectful to most of the other teams in that tier. People gotta stop with the Bron riding. It's over.
I mean they still got Lebron and AD. The suns barely squeezed past them for the 6 seed. I think its reasonable, they aren’t winning a chip but they are definitely above average
@@MrShuggadaddy above average is 42 wins. he put them in the damn near 50 win spot. the lakers picked up bronny james (g league) and knecht but other than that they have lost role players and hired a rookie coach
Agreed. This guy and most others are sleeping on the Spurs and the CP3 and Harrison Barnes signings. VW will prove them wrong in Year 2. Watch France in the Olympics and see the future Spurs.
Big props to the Nets for throwing in the towel and fully rebuilding, better to be trash and try and get a great pick then be mid. And considering this upcoming NBA draft has some top tier prospects, it’s a great decision
Actually best time to blow it up i forget who decided to blow it up the offseason wemby got drafted instead of the one before😂 i think it was the blazers
Why? Their players from best to worst 1. Ja 2. Bane or Jaren Jackson 3. Bane or Jaren Jackson 4. Marcus smart 5. Probably end up being Edey 6. Brandon clarke 7. Luke kennard -most efficient 3 point shooter in nba for many years. 8 Santi aldama- 7’ euro young dude that is a goood role player 9. Vince Williams- a second year monster of a 2 way player 10. GG Jackson youngest nba player tons of Kobe records 11. Laravia- 3rd year dude that broke out last 15 games last season 12. Konchar decent plug and play 13. Derrick rose can still play 14. Zaire -then the g league they have Scottie pippen jr that is killed it last season. Put teams 1 through 8 up against Memphis. There are not a lot that go that deep.
To be fair, Memphis won’t try to win the regular season again, they are going to play their new people a lot and settle for 6th or 7th. This isn’t going to be their year but they are close.
Hornets are C imo. You don’t like hornets do you? lol I actually think getting more draft picks and getting Josh green for free and re signing bridges was great for hornets
I really dont like the 2025 nuggets, they dont disserve S tier in my opinion they have lost now 2 amazing crucial role players from that championship year in bruce brown and now KCP for basically nothing in return. the team still has no center depth, they have one of the worst benches in the nba now that Christian braun is in the starting lineup. This team is only made up of 5 guys and no one else, like who is their 6th best player ? Peyton watson ? if Pwat is your best player off the bench then you have some issues. They also have injury prone guys in Jamal murray and MPJ. As we saw with Minnesota all it takes to beat the nuggets is a good front court because they have shooting struggles without kcp or brown. that means teams like okc with chet and even menphis with JJJ can beat down Jokic.
Yup. I couldn’t believe how awful the Nuggets were without Bruce brown against Minnesota now they just lost KCP for nothing. First round exit and borderline play in team I’m predicting
Nuggets are heavily hurt on the loss of KCP. Porter’s big ass contract takes up all their cap space to pay for players like KCP. Now they gotta start Braun most likely.
@@kdt35503 nah the blazer would be way to op if yall got Flagg, the NBA cannot let that happen with all the young talent on your team. You have a bright furture, Congrats.
F for Charlotte, they will probably be a 25 win team at the end of the year and tanking to try and get a good draft pick. Too bad of a roster and praying Lamelo carries that sad roster to the play-in is not a recipe for success. Tidjane is a project who plays the same position as Miller so it's not even like you have much help coming this year. At best Miller takes a leap to get better and Lamelo plays like an all-star and Charlotte becomes like a 35 win team. Not what I would consider a C team.
@@kdt35503 i mean yeah but that's last season, you had some injured players as well. Look at how deep the roster is this year already, new additions in Clingan, Avdija. Your roster is deep. I'm not saying there gonna be a playoff team or anything, but if they can progress these guys and get Ayton to play like a center should, I think you will be better faster than you think.
charlotte should be c tier same for the spurs, bucks should go down a spot due to their aging roster and losing brook lopez and lakers should go down to the c tier cause they didnt get any better and just got older and they lost some good roleplayers, suns are a play in team and should go down to c tier
@@mikeoclong5538 the spurs fixed two of their biggest weaknesses on their roster, which is the lack of playmaking/point guards and having depth and veteran presence (harrison barnes) and they have wemby coming into his 2nd year, and clippers arent even good anymore they lost paul george, charlotte is in the same tier as those western teams cause theyre gonna be a play in team jsut like the rest of those teams, theyre not better but they'll end up in the exact same situation
Spurs are at least a C tier team cuz they were actually doing pretty well late in the last season even with injuries to vassel and sochan, and they fixed their 2 biggest holes at the 1 and 5 spots. At minimum Bulls over spurs is crazy tho.
Agreed on the majority of these. Some changes I'd make z A- Minnesota Timberwolves (they should be S tier- they improved- Dillingham and Ingles > K. Anderson) A- Memphis Grizzlies (this is bold, but not ludicrous. I'd move them down to B- they need A LOT to go right to be alongside the other teams you've placed in the A tier) C- Houston Rockets (there's no way they belong in the same tier as the Hawks- they also improved by adding Sheppard and AJ Griffin, they didn't lose any big names) D- San Antonio Spurs (at a minimum, C tier, drafting Castle, signing CP3 for a year are great moves) D- Chicago Bulls (this team has arguably the worst direction in the league, F Tier)
The thing about the thunder, is that they basically fixed every problem that prevented them from winning this year, size, rebounding, experience, improving their offense and defense, while not giving up any picks. They are easily the best team, I wouldn’t be shocked if they go 70-12
Gotta love the regular Charlotte disrespect. Charlotte won 7 more games than Detroit and as many as Portland with their two best players in Mark Williams and LaMelo only playing a quarter of the season. A healthy Charlotte team is probably better than the Hawks and Rockets.
Portland was extremely injured as well. Their young core is unfortunately going to be too good to win the Cooper Flagg lottery, expecting a 28-32 win season out of them this year, barring injury of course. I also don't think the Blazers roster is complete right now, as they try to figure out how to navigate Anfernee Simons, Jerami Grant, Rob Williams, DA trade opportunities. Blazers essentially have 4 centers signed in Timelord, DA, Clingan, and Duop Reath. Someone's got to go.
@@connergilley8 their perimeter defense is going to be so bad lmao they definitely did not get better. Klay ain’t that guy anymore. Losing djj is a HUGE loss.
@@connergilley8 he’s really not though. He can’t agitate players like sga like djj could. And Klay will probs be playing 30 minutes a night and yall will be wrecked during those minutes.
Lakers kind of getting the benefit of the doubt. They could very well miss the play in if AD or Lebron miss significant time. They are probably around the Golden State tier since Kings and Pels got significantly better and you can debate Suns or Lakers.
@@ajevans1422 the lakers best 2 players are better than any player from any team you just mentioned just to start. Kings added a dude that cant shoot 3's and is on the upper side of 35, not sure how much they makes them better. Suns have absolutely no bench depth and Beal is washed. Pelicans lol. Zion has played 1 season worth of games in the past 5 years brother. McCollum overrated asl and Ingram doesn't even want to be there lmfao. Just say you dont like the lakers or something haha.
@@drumxrDeRozan being 35 but averaged 24 points a game. There are only 6 games last year that he scored lower than 15 points. He also doesn't get injured. He's been in 96% of his games in his last 11 seasons. Also, for a guy that doesnt shoot 3s, he only scored 86 points less than Steph Curry.
@@drumxr lakers were a play in team with great health from AD and Bron. You can talk about the high end talent all you want but those teams you are talking about minus the Suns have depth, that is how you compete in today’s NBA. You can’t just say “oh we have Lebron and AD” when the rest of the roster is a microwave combo guard no team wants, a SoCal Kevin Huerter, and forward depth made out of other team’s failed projects. Lebron is going into his Kobe retirement tour phase while the rest of the league is going toward youth and depth. Dont take it from me; take it from every marquis free agent, coach or trade target the lakers were after.
Because while Dallas can beat Minnesota, they have worse odds of beating other Western teams. If this was ranked on direct matchups then sure, but if its ranked as title favourites, then id argue Minny has a much better shot of beating Boston than the Mavs do for example.
@@epicgamersvv1582 But Dallas just beat all the West teams (except Denver). I’ll admit OKC got a lot better. But Denver got worse, the Clippers got worse, and the Wolves stayed the same. So from my standpoint, the Mavs are better against other west teams than the Wolves are right now.
The Pacers are one of the deepest teams in the NBA. Their backup pg was cooking when Hali was out. Not to mention Mathurin will be healthy. Cavs are a weird mish mash of players lead by an injury prone volume scorer.
Orlando had a good offseason, doubled down on defence and added shooting, their young core will be a year better and you have them going from the 5 seed to the play in tournament... Make it make sense! They're in the Knicks/Sixers/Bucks category for me
"toronto was a good second half team" our all star player misses 22 games and we had so many injures and a player who is being criminally charged with a federal felony for trying to lose.
Why are the mavericks not even in the same tier as the thunder, they literally just beat them in the playoffs and the mavericks are only gonna get better thanks to Luka Doncic a proven performer
@@positivityman7385 i wont be surprised if they gonna be top 3 seed in the west if healthy but yeah okc is for sure better talent wise but for denver i dont think so because they just lost kcp that is a huge blow for them
My personal tier list ranking S: Celtics, twolves, okc, Knicks, nuggets A: mavs, bucks, 76ers, Pacers, Pelicans B: kings, cavs, magic, Grizzlies, Clippers C: heat, lakers, warriors, Rockets, raptors, D: hawks, spurs, jazz, bulls, Pistons F: Hornets, blazers, Nets, wizards I think I mightve missed a team. Also I tried putting an even amount of teams in each tier.
Agreed with most of this. The only thing that stands out to me as a disagreement is the Hornets. If they are healthy they will be decent. Lamelo Ball, Brandon Miller, Grant Williams, MIles Bridges, Mark Williams... and some bench pieces.
I''m a Raptors fan and I think Toronto is in the C category. They do still have a lot to prove with 3 or 4 new Rooks coming in and most likely losing Gary Trent but tonnes of potential with what they have. It can only get better from here, and now they've secured Barnes, Barrett and Quickley.
As a Jazz fan, if they somehow don't finish bottom 5 in the league with their current roster I'd be stunned and would want Will Hardy extended for 10 years. If they do trade Lauri then they could be looking at 15 wins for the year.
Charlotte should be in C. Lamelos health is still a concern but on paper barring injuries they’re at least a play in team especially in a weak eastern conference
Charlotte should be a D. What is your starting 5? Tre Mann, Lamelo Ball, Brandon Miller, Miles Bridges and Nick Richards? With Grant Williams, Gordon Hayward and Tidjane Salaun off the bench? That's like a 25 win team unless Lamelo Ball can reach his all-star level again. Even if he does it's what a 35 win team? Then again it shouldn't be hard getting 10th in the east next year considering they should be ahead of Detroit, Wash, Brooklyn and Chicago.
@@GregRJohnson736starting 5 is Lamelo Ball Josh Green Brandon Miller Miles Bridges Mark Williams. W/ grant Williams, Tre Mann, Nick Richards off the bench lol
@@Dungbeetlestrikesback not in 24, and i def have played 2k, after loosing dejounte murray they are ass until like 2 yrs in they randomly become the first seed without trae
as a sixers fan who hates the celtics it annoys me that they’re always mid /low playoff team in the sim. Like the disrespect and lack of realism is crazy.
@@mikeoclong5538 Sarr couldn’t even start on a shrty Australian team in a not good league. He will be good defensively but his offense will prob be rough. He’s very overhyped and on a team that will flare his flaws. Idk how castle could turn out but he’s won on highest level and has a much better floor
Great list man. Only issue I have is I would give the respect to Dallas as a S tier team because they did just win the west a couple months ago and also beat OKC and Minnesota in that order. Not to mention added Klay Thompson. Great content keep it up
if the nuggets are s tier The bucks are s tier team the nuggets got way worse with the loss of kcp and reggie Jackson their bench sucks The bucks got better with Delon Wright and Prince
Yeah but the Bucks head coach alone puts their ceiling at A. Doc is one of the most overrated coaches of all-time and always finds a way to lose. He flat out sucks.
People often succumb to recency bias. How quickly they forget that they were literally a top 6 team in the east during the 2021-2022 season before the team got the injury bug and Miles Bridges decided to beat his wife.
You're sleeping on the Spurs. Watch France in the Olympics and you'll see they are a 6th seed in the West. AND, the Spurs have the Hawks UNPROTECTED #1 pick in a deep 2025 draft. Spurs will be "A" tier a year from now.
Idk. Spurs will benefit from tanking a bit more. They need more drafting. Also by 2027 most of the teams that are "win now" (Boston LA Dallas Denver Milwaukee Philly etc.) will be underwater
no way they are 6th in the west. they won 22 games last year. suns were 6th last year and had 49 wins, complete delusion if you think they will rise to 6th by next year
What did the Spurs do to you bro? Do you honestly think CHI is better than SAS right now? Thats a wild take lol CHI i would have as F tier and SAS in C
can someone explain how the clippers are going to be good next year. their top 3 scoring options are Leonard Harden Powell and if Loenard gets hurt they're a bottom 3 or 4 team in the west
The reason I keep Atlanta in C tier over a team like Toronto is i think Atlanta will absolutely go for it all season. Not having their pick they have no incentive to tank. Toronto may call a lid on the season after the trade deadline this year, and go for draft pick west is just insane. i think there are 12 teams in the west who would be playoff teams in the East, and at most 8 can go
I think your overestimating teams like the Warriors / Lakers. The Lakers should be a high C tier, same for the Warriors. The Rockets however, should be in B tier and the Raptors should be in C tier ( i think that they will be better than the Warriors ) + Minnesota & Denver & the Knicks should be in S tier ( all contenders )
Mavs last season: -Kyrie Lively THJ Green and Exum injured 1st half of season still won 50games -best post trade deadline record from 10th to 5th seed in just 1 month -top 5 defense post trade deadline record after acquiring Gafford and Washington and switching the starting lineup -beat 3 50+ win teams in Clippers OKC Wolves convincingly with just Luka and Kyrie having playoff experience in starting lineup Mavs this season: -traded THJ:Klay, DJJ:Marshall, Green: Grimes basically an upgrade in everything they wanted. They added length, defense, playmaking and shooting with the cost of -1 lobthreat in DJJ and still ranked lower to OKC and Wolves?
The disrespectful shots at Raptors for no reason Matt? Damn. I mean the core we have now could mess around and be better than Atlanta with team chemistry and upside. I would’ve kept them in C tier.
Honestly if Embiid and Maxey are healthy, and PG plays like the good PG, they will be competing with Boston for number 1 in the east, you gotta remember they were dominating last year before Embiid got hurt, and they had Tobias Harris.
Atlanta is to high. They should be in F or D tier. How do you get the number 1 overall pick and lose Dejounte Muarry but somehow get better??????? I don’t really see it
Sac swept the Lakers last year why the hell do have the Lakers so high In that B tier. Davis is hurt all the time and Austin Reeves is semi Decent Lebron is getting old. Doesn't make sense. Get the national media narrative.
cavs are at least a tier, they’re better than the lakers and clippers by a bit. They haven’t really been able to stay healthy but they’re not their level
I hope Toronto is as bad as you think as a fan that wants good draft picks. Unfortunately they probably have too much talent, they were pretty strong when actually healthy at the end of last season.
@vulcanraven9701 scottie was a 3rd year all star and still has lots of room for improvement, there are very few players you would rather max. Could be all-nba next season
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Bros a victim of the media putting lakers that high
Lakers being at the top of the B tier is laughable and disrespectful to most of the other teams in that tier. People gotta stop with the Bron riding. It's over.
LMFAO yeah that shit over
lakers at the top of B is laughable
Luagable since teams like Golden State who actually made roster changes and moves. Rockets will get better.
I mean they still got Lebron and AD. The suns barely squeezed past them for the 6 seed. I think its reasonable, they aren’t winning a chip but they are definitely above average
@@MrShuggadaddy above average is 42 wins. he put them in the damn near 50 win spot. the lakers picked up bronny james (g league) and knecht but other than that they have lost role players and hired a rookie coach
@@levyyy9478 lakers coming off 47 wins, an above average team. And they literally only lost Taurean Prince lmao
@@levyyy9478 and a rookie coach has decent odds of being better than Darvin Ham. Who did he rank below them in the West that you would put above them?
Drink every time he says "on paper"
I would be a sober man.
Bulls over spurs is criminal, spurs should be end of C tier or top of D tier. Of all D tier teams they’re the only team with play in potential.
Nah, the Hornets could easily be a play in team if they are healthy. Have you seen the east?
Do they have play in potential? I feel like the west is too stacked
Spurs, Hawks, and Rockets are all definitely in the same tier now
Agreed. This guy and most others are sleeping on the Spurs and the CP3 and Harrison Barnes signings. VW will prove them wrong in Year 2. Watch France in the Olympics and see the future Spurs.
@@TheMilitiaGuy Will their defense be good enough? Aside from Victor, who will probably win DPOY, they don't have any other good defenders
“On paper” is the buzz word here
That’s two words, he does say “on paper” probably over 40 times
on paper i agree
Big props to the Nets for throwing in the towel and fully rebuilding, better to be trash and try and get a great pick then be mid. And considering this upcoming NBA draft has some top tier prospects, it’s a great decision
Also getting their pick back to tank is huge
The nets deserve no praise after that trade a decade ago😂 gifting Tatum and brown to Boston
@@dboii9741 Haha for real tho
Actually best time to blow it up i forget who decided to blow it up the offseason wemby got drafted instead of the one before😂 i think it was the blazers
Facts
Memphis at A tier is nasty work
Not really
Why?
Their players from best to worst
1. Ja
2. Bane or Jaren Jackson
3. Bane or Jaren Jackson
4. Marcus smart
5. Probably end up being Edey
6. Brandon clarke
7. Luke kennard -most efficient 3 point shooter in nba for many years.
8 Santi aldama- 7’ euro young dude that is a goood role player
9. Vince Williams- a second year monster of a 2 way player
10. GG Jackson youngest nba player tons of Kobe records
11. Laravia- 3rd year dude that broke out last 15 games last season
12. Konchar decent plug and play
13. Derrick rose can still play
14. Zaire
-then the g league they have Scottie pippen jr that is killed it last season.
Put teams 1 through 8 up against Memphis. There are not a lot that go that deep.
To be fair, Memphis won’t try to win the regular season again, they are going to play their new people a lot and settle for 6th or 7th. This isn’t going to be their year but they are close.
Casual
Did you start watching nba in 2023 lol
Hornets getting hella disrespected
A healthy hornets team is c tier
You know ball
💯💯💯
Y'all keep sleeping on Charlotte bruh
How
brandon miller is like that and melo back
Hornets is very underrated imo
Hornets are C imo. You don’t like hornets do you? lol I actually think getting more draft picks and getting Josh green for free and re signing bridges was great for hornets
If Mark and Lamelo stay healthy, they're absoultely C tier. If it's the same as last year and both miss most of the season, probably looking at D/F.
The hornets hate is always motivation
no hate, just fate. this franchise has never had success
I really dont like the 2025 nuggets, they dont disserve S tier in my opinion they have lost now 2 amazing crucial role players from that championship year in bruce brown and now KCP for basically nothing in return. the team still has no center depth, they have one of the worst benches in the nba now that Christian braun is in the starting lineup. This team is only made up of 5 guys and no one else, like who is their 6th best player ? Peyton watson ? if Pwat is your best player off the bench then you have some issues. They also have injury prone guys in Jamal murray and MPJ. As we saw with Minnesota all it takes to beat the nuggets is a good front court because they have shooting struggles without kcp or brown. that means teams like okc with chet and even menphis with JJJ can beat down Jokic.
Yess finally someone said it
Yup. I couldn’t believe how awful the Nuggets were without Bruce brown against Minnesota now they just lost KCP for nothing. First round exit and borderline play in team I’m predicting
The Raptors last season were a Circus, from start to finish.
There was like 5 variation of the team, 4 of them being in the in 2024.
Coach needs to go and then theyll be C tier
Nuggets are heavily hurt on the loss of KCP. Porter’s big ass contract takes up all their cap space to pay for players like KCP. Now they gotta start Braun most likely.
Yes. There was no reason for MPJ to get a superstar sized contract, ever. Nuggets will probably be a one hit wonder team now. smh
Only hope for the nugs is that Strawther, Pickett, Braun or Watson take a leap next year. Possible, but not probable
C for Charlotte , I have a feeling we’re gonna try and see how the season goes hopefully without injuries 😅 .
As a Blazers fan, I really hope you do lol I want Flagg for next year and I'm a big fan of Miller's game.
@@kdt35503 nah the blazer would be way to op if yall got Flagg, the NBA cannot let that happen with all the young talent on your team. You have a bright furture, Congrats.
F for Charlotte, they will probably be a 25 win team at the end of the year and tanking to try and get a good draft pick. Too bad of a roster and praying Lamelo carries that sad roster to the play-in is not a recipe for success. Tidjane is a project who plays the same position as Miller so it's not even like you have much help coming this year. At best Miller takes a leap to get better and Lamelo plays like an all-star and Charlotte becomes like a 35 win team. Not what I would consider a C team.
@@Didauy- wym OP lmao we got beat by 60 points twice last season 💀
@@kdt35503 i mean yeah but that's last season, you had some injured players as well. Look at how deep the roster is this year already, new additions in Clingan, Avdija. Your roster is deep. I'm not saying there gonna be a playoff team or anything, but if they can progress these guys and get Ayton to play like a center should, I think you will be better faster than you think.
charlotte should be c tier same for the spurs, bucks should go down a spot due to their aging roster and losing brook lopez and lakers should go down to the c tier cause they didnt get any better and just got older and they lost some good roleplayers, suns are a play in team and should go down to c tier
Charlotte and SAS with the clippers lakers suns???? Ur shitting me😂
@@mikeoclong5538 the spurs fixed two of their biggest weaknesses on their roster, which is the lack of playmaking/point guards and having depth and veteran presence (harrison barnes) and they have wemby coming into his 2nd year, and clippers arent even good anymore they lost paul george, charlotte is in the same tier as those western teams cause theyre gonna be a play in team jsut like the rest of those teams, theyre not better but they'll end up in the exact same situation
@@ITC961 mmm alr i hear u i respect it
@@mikeoclong5538First and foremost, Clippers are insanely overrated 😂
Spurs are at least a C tier team cuz they were actually doing pretty well late in the last season even with injuries to vassel and sochan, and they fixed their 2 biggest holes at the 1 and 5 spots. At minimum Bulls over spurs is crazy tho.
Agreed on the majority of these. Some changes I'd make z
A- Minnesota Timberwolves (they should be S tier- they improved- Dillingham and Ingles > K. Anderson)
A- Memphis Grizzlies (this is bold, but not ludicrous. I'd move them down to B- they need A LOT to go right to be alongside the other teams you've placed in the A tier)
C- Houston Rockets (there's no way they belong in the same tier as the Hawks- they also improved by adding Sheppard and AJ Griffin, they didn't lose any big names)
D- San Antonio Spurs (at a minimum, C tier, drafting Castle, signing CP3 for a year are great moves)
D- Chicago Bulls (this team has arguably the worst direction in the league, F Tier)
Bro cooked with this not gonna lie
AJ won’t touch the court for the rockets i promise you
Unless Ant can address his cardio issues A tier is their ceiling.
@@iMixMaSteR1ant doesn’t have cardio issues he may get tired but that’s cause he actually plays defense
@@jack-2813 If he's getting tired that cardio......
The thing about the thunder, is that they basically fixed every problem that prevented them from winning this year, size, rebounding, experience, improving their offense and defense, while not giving up any picks. They are easily the best team, I wouldn’t be shocked if they go 70-12
Gotta love the regular Charlotte disrespect. Charlotte won 7 more games than Detroit and as many as Portland with their two best players in Mark Williams and LaMelo only playing a quarter of the season. A healthy Charlotte team is probably better than the Hawks and Rockets.
Portland was extremely injured as well. Their young core is unfortunately going to be too good to win the Cooper Flagg lottery, expecting a 28-32 win season out of them this year, barring injury of course. I also don't think the Blazers roster is complete right now, as they try to figure out how to navigate Anfernee Simons, Jerami Grant, Rob Williams, DA trade opportunities. Blazers essentially have 4 centers signed in Timelord, DA, Clingan, and Duop Reath. Someone's got to go.
I think the kings are better than the lakers.
lowballed the mavs
They got way worse lol
@@samgrassman859Klay is a huge upgrade over Timmy, Q Grimes for Green is a downgrade but I still think the mavs got better.
@@connergilley8 their perimeter defense is going to be so bad lmao they definitely did not get better. Klay ain’t that guy anymore. Losing djj is a HUGE loss.
@@samgrassman859 Naji is just as good as ddj on defense, only question is how many minutes will he get with Klay playing the 3
@@connergilley8 he’s really not though. He can’t agitate players like sga like djj could. And Klay will probs be playing 30 minutes a night and yall will be wrecked during those minutes.
Bro thinks detriot and portland will be better than charlotte this season 💀
Detroit’s roster is pretty different from last season, and they hired a more competent head coach. They could get around 30 wins
@@obi3924 could is the right word as they wont get anywhere close 🤣🤣
Bulls over Utah, San Antonio and Charlotte is crazy
they still have talent.
Lakers kind of getting the benefit of the doubt. They could very well miss the play in if AD or Lebron miss significant time. They are probably around the Golden State tier since Kings and Pels got significantly better and you can debate Suns or Lakers.
Ranking teams based on if they get hurt is low iq. What if Zion gets hurt again? What if KD gets hurt again? What if Fox gets hurt again?
@@drumxr how did the lakers get better compared to the west
@@ajevans1422 the lakers best 2 players are better than any player from any team you just mentioned just to start. Kings added a dude that cant shoot 3's and is on the upper side of 35, not sure how much they makes them better. Suns have absolutely no bench depth and Beal is washed. Pelicans lol. Zion has played 1 season worth of games in the past 5 years brother. McCollum overrated asl and Ingram doesn't even want to be there lmfao. Just say you dont like the lakers or something haha.
@@drumxrDeRozan being 35 but averaged 24 points a game. There are only 6 games last year that he scored lower than 15 points. He also doesn't get injured. He's been in 96% of his games in his last 11 seasons. Also, for a guy that doesnt shoot 3s, he only scored 86 points less than Steph Curry.
@@drumxr lakers were a play in team with great health from AD and Bron. You can talk about the high end talent all you want but those teams you are talking about minus the Suns have depth, that is how you compete in today’s NBA. You can’t just say “oh we have Lebron and AD” when the rest of the roster is a microwave combo guard no team wants, a SoCal Kevin Huerter, and forward depth made out of other team’s failed projects. Lebron is going into his Kobe retirement tour phase while the rest of the league is going toward youth and depth. Dont take it from me; take it from every marquis free agent, coach or trade target the lakers were after.
You have Minnesota 2 spots ahead of Dallas when Dallas just destroyed them in a gentlemen's sweep a few months ago and have since added Klay Thompson?
Klay Thompson isn’t gonna help them as much as people say they now have no perimeter defense in their starting lineup that’s a good spot for yhrm
Because while Dallas can beat Minnesota, they have worse odds of beating other Western teams. If this was ranked on direct matchups then sure, but if its ranked as title favourites, then id argue Minny has a much better shot of beating Boston than the Mavs do for example.
@@MileStoopswe’ll se about that bro
@@maticerzen9331 yes we will
@@epicgamersvv1582 But Dallas just beat all the West teams (except Denver). I’ll admit OKC got a lot better. But Denver got worse, the Clippers got worse, and the Wolves stayed the same. So from my standpoint, the Mavs are better against other west teams than the Wolves are right now.
In what world are the Pacers better than the Cavs? Because they beat 2 teams in the playoffs without their top 3 scorers? 😭💀
Pacers are better its not a crazy take.
The Pacers are one of the deepest teams in the NBA. Their backup pg was cooking when Hali was out. Not to mention Mathurin will be healthy. Cavs are a weird mish mash of players lead by an injury prone volume scorer.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 how? They are a terrible defensive team and get killed by the Cavs almost every time they play
@@iMixMaSteR1 Haliburton has been injured 3 straight seasons 😂💀 and their defense sucks
Pacers are better any day lmao
I had to stop the video when you said Jazz might be better than Charlotte. Bro ... Wth lol
Having the Hornets between F and D tier just shows your absolute ignorance. Clownshow
Orlando had a good offseason, doubled down on defence and added shooting, their young core will be a year better and you have them going from the 5 seed to the play in tournament... Make it make sense! They're in the Knicks/Sixers/Bucks category for me
"toronto was a good second half team" our all star player misses 22 games and we had so many injures and a player who is being criminally charged with a federal felony for trying to lose.
He said: *Not a good second half team*.. He even explainend, why Toronto had a bad second half..
Lmao at our all star. Your injury replacement that could have been 5 other players just as easily. Injury replacement ain’t shit
@@grapeape1965 so scottie was picked over those other 5 guys why? he was an all star. cry about it
MID 3
My algorithm read my mind, was literally wanting to find a video like this 🔥😮
Why are the mavericks not even in the same tier as the thunder, they literally just beat them in the playoffs and the mavericks are only gonna get better thanks to Luka Doncic a proven performer
Mavs are easily S tier. They made the finals with Luka on one leg and got significantly higher upside players on to their roster
the dallas disrespect is crazy
Top 5 seems fair to be talent wise they r no where near close to the teams above them I’d argue every team has more talent
@@positivityman7385 i wont be surprised if they gonna be top 3 seed in the west if healthy but yeah okc is for sure better talent wise but for denver i dont think so because they just lost kcp that is a huge blow for them
@@maticerzen9331 Dallas okc and Minnesota should be top 3 seeds. Denver honestly could be a playin team.
@@lie2473 exactly
My Prediction is OKC 1st seed Minnesota 2nd seed and Dallas 3rd seed.
My personal tier list ranking
S: Celtics, twolves, okc, Knicks, nuggets
A: mavs, bucks, 76ers, Pacers, Pelicans
B: kings, cavs, magic, Grizzlies, Clippers
C: heat, lakers, warriors, Rockets, raptors,
D: hawks, spurs, jazz, bulls, Pistons
F: Hornets, blazers, Nets, wizards
I think I mightve missed a team. Also I tried putting an even amount of teams in each tier.
You missed the suns, but good list
Hornets in F tier is laughable. Theres no way you seriously think the Jazz, Spurs, Hawks, Pistons, Raptors and Bulls are better teams.
@@darynfriesen8433 Switch Bulls and Hornets and I agree
Agreed with most of this. The only thing that stands out to me as a disagreement is the Hornets. If they are healthy they will be decent. Lamelo Ball, Brandon Miller, Grant Williams, MIles Bridges, Mark Williams... and some bench pieces.
I''m a Raptors fan and I think Toronto is in the C category. They do still have a lot to prove with 3 or 4 new Rooks coming in and most likely losing Gary Trent but tonnes of potential with what they have. It can only get better from here, and now they've secured Barnes, Barrett and Quickley.
nuggets at S and mavs at A is criminal
Mavs being disrespected yet again
You know how it is
C tier! We're moving up 🎉
As a Jazz fan, if they somehow don't finish bottom 5 in the league with their current roster I'd be stunned and would want Will Hardy extended for 10 years. If they do trade Lauri then they could be looking at 15 wins for the year.
Charlotte should be in C. Lamelos health is still a concern but on paper barring injuries they’re at least a play in team especially in a weak eastern conference
Nah
Right
Charlotte should be a D.
What is your starting 5?
Tre Mann, Lamelo Ball, Brandon Miller, Miles Bridges and Nick Richards? With Grant Williams, Gordon Hayward and Tidjane Salaun off the bench?
That's like a 25 win team unless Lamelo Ball can reach his all-star level again. Even if he does it's what a 35 win team?
Then again it shouldn't be hard getting 10th in the east next year considering they should be ahead of Detroit, Wash, Brooklyn and Chicago.
@@GregRJohnson736gordon Hayward is not even on the hornets anymore do you even watch nba?
@@GregRJohnson736starting 5 is Lamelo Ball Josh Green Brandon Miller Miles Bridges Mark Williams. W/ grant Williams, Tre Mann, Nick Richards off the bench lol
You’re way too high on the Lakers. What did they even do to improve?
Exactly that was probably his dumbest pic and most were pretty dumb lakers are c tier
Drafted Bronny James, the assistant head coach!
I’m glad you mentioned Clowney for BKN he is gonna be a beast
Hornets is C tier with Hawks
i dont think the timberwolves are the best A tier team, Dallas is better and with denver i think is even
If this was a 2k sim tier list:
S: Thunder, Knicks, Cavs
A: Mavs, Philly, Pelicans, Pacers, Pistons, Timberwolves
B: Heat, Bulls, Rockets, Kings, Portland, Raptors
C: Hawks, Hornets, Celtics, Bucks, Jazz, Magic, Nuggets, Warriors
D: Clippers, Lakers, Spurs, Grizzlies
F: Suns, Nets, Wizards
You obv have never played 2k because hawks win every dam time
@@Dungbeetlestrikesback not in 24, and i def have played 2k, after loosing dejounte murray they are ass until like 2 yrs in they randomly become the first seed without trae
as a sixers fan who hates the celtics it annoys me that they’re always mid /low playoff team in the sim. Like the disrespect and lack of realism is crazy.
@@smh-TV ikr, u cant fix it
grizz in d is crazy
Mavs in A tier is mental
Mos definitely underestimating the Warriors!
Ain’t no way the raptors better than the spurs lmao
Are you dum?
The grizzlies in A tier is absurd!!! Until proven otherwise they should not be ranked above any team in B or above
As a Nets fan I'm so excited we got our picks back, been fucking depressing.
Hornets a C They can actually finally sneak into da playoffs
Pacers in A
Hornets are going to make the play in at the very least (if healthy). shows that you have no ball knowledge
So many weird takes in this video, Pacers being lowballed the worst
As a jazz fan this has been a rough offseason. We had a ton of money before we resign lauri and we didn’t do shi w it. We had a great draft tho
The glazing is real with okc 😂
Because he said they were gonna be a play in team last time and they ended up number seed he’s not taking that chance again lol
Tf u mean??? R u a casual or what?
They are the best team in the Western Conference.
Agreed. They'll get cooked in the playoffs again.
@@iMixMaSteR1they didn’t get cooked they put up a good fight against a more experienced team
Just because of Wemby and CP3, spurs should be B team! Wemby and CP3 both hate losing and got dog in them. MARK MY WORD
CP3 is like 50 and the rest of the roster is full of scrubs😂😂😂😂
This guy hate the Raptors . 😂😂
Bro don’t be a dingmosh, spurs signed best player in draft, added decent vets, and added 3 picks in half a decade! That’s a win! Don’t be a dingmosh
Sarr is better than Castle buddy
@@mikeoclong5538 Sarr couldn’t even start on a shrty Australian team in a not good league. He will be good defensively but his offense will prob be rough. He’s very overhyped and on a team that will flare his flaws. Idk how castle could turn out but he’s won on highest level and has a much better floor
I think the Rockets will really surprise and have a big leap next year I would put them atleast at B tier if not A tier.
Totally agree. Rox can easily beats out a lot of these B tier teams
Rockets A tier 😂😂😂😂😂 good joke
@@kurtywjno chance against the Magic
Dude is always super high on the Knicks. Their first round exit next year is going to be hilarious to watch
Great list man. Only issue I have is I would give the respect to Dallas as a S tier team because they did just win the west a couple months ago and also beat OKC and Minnesota in that order. Not to mention added Klay Thompson. Great content keep it up
if the nuggets are s tier The bucks are s tier team the nuggets got way worse with the loss of kcp and reggie Jackson their bench sucks The bucks got better with Delon Wright and Prince
Yeah but the Bucks head coach alone puts their ceiling at A. Doc is one of the most overrated coaches of all-time and always finds a way to lose. He flat out sucks.
I believe the thunder and pels have made the best moves during this offseason.
Hornets are B tier when healthy
B is crazy
Amateur comedy hour?
People often succumb to recency bias. How quickly they forget that they were literally a top 6 team in the east during the 2021-2022 season before the team got the injury bug and Miles Bridges decided to beat his wife.
Lakers are probably a D tier team, maybe C but definitely not B. I think Spurs are going to the playoffs and Detroit is still F tier
Minnesota was shown at the A tier, but they were skipped 💀
You're sleeping on the Spurs. Watch France in the Olympics and you'll see they are a 6th seed in the West. AND, the Spurs have the Hawks UNPROTECTED #1 pick in a deep 2025 draft. Spurs will be "A" tier a year from now.
As good as wemby is the spurs improved by a whopping total of 0 wins in is rookie year
spurs are not a 6th team in the west
Idk. Spurs will benefit from tanking a bit more. They need more drafting. Also by 2027 most of the teams that are "win now" (Boston LA Dallas Denver Milwaukee Philly etc.) will be underwater
no way they are 6th in the west. they won 22 games last year. suns were 6th last year and had 49 wins, complete delusion if you think they will rise to 6th by next year
6th seed in the west is a diabolical statement for a team that was bottom 5 last year 💀
Spurs in D is crazy, anyway this is mostly a W being a Timberwolves fan, grizzlies fan, and magic fan
Lakers B tier? What are you smoking?
What did the Spurs do to you bro?
Do you honestly think CHI is better than SAS right now? Thats a wild take lol CHI i would have as F tier and SAS in C
can someone explain how the clippers are going to be good next year. their top 3 scoring options are Leonard Harden Powell and if Loenard gets hurt they're a bottom 3 or 4 team in the west
You put the lakers too high. They’re probably b tier but they aren’t the highest of the b tier. They should be near the end of the b tier list.
I think the Clippers got better without Pg, they added so much depth.
Pacers "every game was close against boston"- swept
The reason I keep Atlanta in C tier over a team like Toronto is i think Atlanta will absolutely go for it all season. Not having their pick they have no incentive to tank. Toronto may call a lid on the season after the trade deadline this year, and go for draft pick
west is just insane. i think there are 12 teams in the west who would be playoff teams in the East, and at most 8 can go
Kings are A tier if we’re being honest could be the best offensive team in the league with monk and huerter off the bench
Nuggets in S is criminal
I think your overestimating teams like the Warriors / Lakers. The Lakers should be a high C tier, same for the Warriors. The Rockets however, should be in B tier and the Raptors should be in C tier ( i think that they will be better than the Warriors ) + Minnesota & Denver & the Knicks should be in S tier ( all contenders )
You should name these tiers. Champions, conference finals, play-offs, playin, lottery
Mavs last season:
-Kyrie Lively THJ Green and Exum injured 1st half of season still won 50games
-best post trade deadline record from 10th to 5th seed in just 1 month
-top 5 defense post trade deadline record after acquiring Gafford and Washington and switching the starting lineup
-beat 3 50+ win teams in Clippers OKC Wolves convincingly with just Luka and Kyrie having playoff experience in starting lineup
Mavs this season:
-traded THJ:Klay, DJJ:Marshall, Green: Grimes basically an upgrade in everything they wanted. They added length, defense, playmaking and shooting with the cost of -1 lobthreat in DJJ and still ranked lower to OKC and Wolves?
The disrespectful shots at Raptors for no reason Matt? Damn. I mean the core we have now could mess around and be better than Atlanta with team chemistry and upside. I would’ve kept them in C tier.
Denver lost a starter, didnt replace him, lost a bench player l,. didn't replace him.
How are the Lakers better then Sac and Phoenix
No ball knowledge
Honestly if Embiid and Maxey are healthy, and PG plays like the good PG, they will be competing with Boston for number 1 in the east, you gotta remember they were dominating last year before Embiid got hurt, and they had Tobias Harris.
B Ball Paul to Detroit
Atlanta is to high. They should be in F or D tier. How do you get the number 1 overall pick and lose Dejounte Muarry but somehow get better??????? I don’t really see it
Sac swept the Lakers last year why the hell do have the Lakers so high In that B tier. Davis is hurt all the time and Austin Reeves is semi Decent Lebron is getting old. Doesn't make sense. Get the national media narrative.
cavs are at least a tier, they’re better than the lakers and clippers by a bit. They haven’t really been able to stay healthy but they’re not their level
Allen Garland Mobley and Mitchell is a bad fit together. Having 2 front court guys who can't shoot in the modern NBA is not gonna work.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622worked enough for damn near back to back 50 win seasons
No shot. You dont beat any of those teams in A and would even lose to the Pacers.
Magic are better than the cavs this year
@@YourWorstNightmare3333 cavs just beat the magic, while hobbled. i think they’re better
bro always says this team is so good on paper
basketball isnt played on paper.
Memphis is over rated, should be B tier.
Chicago is F tier.
Charlotte is C tier.
Hornets are 🗑
@@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381 possibly, but a healthy Melo, 2nd yr Miller, returning Bridges, and healthy big man could have this team cooking.
@@boltblazer1670 melo and healthy in the same sentence is laughable
@@fgea234 I can't argue.
@@boltblazer1670 Cooking? lmao cookin ass
Do a video ranking every teams young core
I hope Toronto is as bad as you think as a fan that wants good draft picks. Unfortunately they probably have too much talent, they were pretty strong when actually healthy at the end of last season.
They gave Scottie Barnes of all people a max contract. I wouldn't trust that team with a $1 bill
@vulcanraven9701 scottie was a 3rd year all star and still has lots of room for improvement, there are very few players you would rather max. Could be all-nba next season