Only Polyphonic can convince me that a chicken nugget singing "Ge da ga dee ge da go da do" is a contribution to the rich, centuries-old history of folk music and tradition
Are you fn kidding me? Calling someone brown on the outside and white on the inside? Assuming you're white on the outside and trash on the inside. Stellar human alert. #sarcasm
@@andersjjensenuhm actually 🤓👆Skibidi rizz mog sigma chungus is the peak of human evolution , our minds have reached a point so high that evolution itself has plateaued due to us reaching the peaks of evolution, Skibidi rizzlers 🤓👆
You saying "What in the Skibidi Rizz is going on here" with a straight face while staring at the camera made me lose it. Absolutely iconic storytelling, and a fantastic Video Essay as always!
@@noneofyourbusiness4616on the contrary I read it and was waiting for that line the whole time. Still no idea what it means but my kids found it hilarious 😂
My nine year old grandson was singing Cotton Eye Joe when he visited a few weeks ago. I pulled out my banjo and played it for him. We were both amazed that the other knew it. Then I showed him Rednex on RUclips. Lol. He couldn't believe his eyes and ears.
Hey Noah, I know that it took a lot from you to leave your previous format behind, but I gotta say, while the visual component was amazing, most of the value of your essays is still very much present. Your genuine love for music, your keen eye for a good story, and your excellent writing are still shining through in this new format. Plus it has the added bonus of your personality and humor peeking through. I hope you find it much more manageable to keep making videos like this, and keep your channel alive, because it’s not just content to a lot of us. Cheers mate. Have a great day!
@@kasperprindal-nielsen4983If chief means head, this implies "Stick your head in the microwave and get yourself a tan." -Weird Al, "Dare to Be Stupid"
Likely cremated. It isn't uncommon to buy a coffin for the veiwing but have the body burned in a cardboard box, or no box. He probably kept it, intending it to be a memento mori, and decided to make it into an instrument. It is fictional though, so maybe it isn't that thought out.
This just sent me into a nostalgia spiral and had to immediately look up the original song. Thank you from this often pessimistic 30 something. It warmed my heart for a few mins
As an Irish dancer, I grew up constantly listening and dancing to the Cheiftan's version. Always loved it, but love it even more knowing more about the history of the song
This song dates back to the 1850's America where West African music met Irish immigrants. It was always a dance song. I have heard traditional versions. All were line and square dances with calls derived from French long after the English gave up French call dances. Kinda helped that there were French Creole and Cajun communities in parts of the South. In 1980 I had to learn dances to this song along with 7th grade girls as both an athletic event and cultural education. The middle school band had to learn an Oohm Pah Pah waltz and mortify us again both as an athletic event and to respect cultural heritage. Note Cotton Eye Joe was considered to represent both white and black culture.
Nina Simone’s version of Cotton Eyed Joe is my favourite. It’s heartbreakingly gorgeous, and I was taken aback when I first heard it. Also I wasn’t familiar with Karen Dalton until now. What a beautiful voice. Thank you sharing part of her story with us.
Meanwhile here in Texas we just kept dancing this both black and white without anyone knowing anyone ever knew it was a thing. Big thing was Urban Cowboy having a version of this. Everyone knows that more than Rednex.
I was not expecting this to be an enlightening essay but I’ll be darned I am inspired by this. Folk has always been an interest of mine and this showed me that the culture is still alive, even if it has a different face. Thank you Polyphonic, thank you very much!
Thank you for spending some time covering Karen Dalton. She's unfortunately been relegated to "your musician's favorite artist" status, similarly to Blaze Foley and Townes Van Zandt.
I had this realization the other day that the version of the song "Dirt Man" by Carter Vail where Vail sings a verse and chorus and then the screen flashes "Your turn" is another way digital technology and social media are revolutionizing folk music. So instead of someone else adding a verse to your song at the singalong or drum circle, now millions of people are doing it remotely, creating infinite versions of the song. And that's fucking awesome!
Ok but this makes me think how it IS fascinating to consider what folk culture is in an hyperconnected era. Folk culture still exist irl, but analyzing what constitutes online folk culture from a sociological standpoint is relevant and interesting. There's so much to look for: memes, specific music trends, microcosms in forums, even folktales (maybe creepy pastas and fake tumblr posts?) And how all this interacts with previous/current offline folk culture
'50's-'70's folk musicians often led interesting, but frought, lives. Look up Tim Buckley, Nick Drake, Townes Van Zandt, Phil Ochs, and Connie Coverse if you ever feel like your day is going too well.
So nice to see you having fun in this more relaxed format. Humor is a welcomed addition to Poliphonic's deep dives in music history and the reflection about it's cultural, social and political meaning. And you keep on wax poetic'ing the hell out of any subject you want! That's the beauty of Poliphonic for me.
@@minacarolina7671 Wait, I think the lyrics actually say "...I'd been married long time ago." not "I'd have/I'd've been". So, I guess the lyrics would work. Right?
I’m near the end of the video, and you cracking up at trying to say "gegagedigedageda-O" (I copied and pasted that from Wikipedia because I had no idea how to type it out) was so hilarious and joyful! 😂 Also I totally agree with your points about how remixes and memes like this introduce new generations to the origins of songs, and that’s a beautiful thing. I’m an older millennial, and I was really into hip hop and r&b as a kid in the 90s. When I realised that most of the songs I loved were sampled from older songs, I’d look up the originals. I’d study the liner notes on my CDs, find out where the samples came from, and go crate digging for the originals. 70s funk and soul are probably my favourite genres to this day, and 90s hip hop and r&b were my introduction to them. When gen Xers and millennials complain about gen z “ruining great music”, just remember the boomers said exactly the same thing about the songs we loved when we were kids.
It brings me joy that the Nina Simone's version is the one that inspired you. Anything she does puts chills on my body. Her version of this song makes me tear up every time.
"If it hadn't been for Cotton Eyed Joe, I would've been married a long time 'go." I only made sense of the first part, because it made the most sense with the second part.
I feel like we as a society need to start talking about child marriage as the horror show it is. She didn't get married at 15. Her father sold her to another man to be his child housemaid and sex slave at 15. She was r4p3d repeatedly before the age of 21 and had 2 children with the man who bought and molested her. She finally escaped to New York City where she played the blues and found a home and survival income in the folk-punk scene. She tried to self medicate her PTSD and depression with street drugs due to a lack of psychiatric care services and contracted HIV due to the deliberate exacerbation of the crisis by the New York Police and the Regan Administration. Eventually dying from complications of her disease in 1992 because Regan blocked the FDA and CDC from approving or researching known effective treatments as a weapon to try and exterminate queer people, people with mental health issues, and people with addiction issues by weaponizing HIV. It's far more cruel and tragic of a life than you depicted by sugar coating the reality of child marriage, Evangelical conservative culture & policy, and the brutality of the times in which she lived.
Strange, yet cool, how memes can introduce younger listeners to some classic stuff! Case in point- I was playing my album of Yes' "Fragile" and told my son to get a listen to this classic song, "Roundabout"- but he'd already heard it (and OF it) from a meme that I had no idea existed. His comment: "Cool! THAT'S where it originally came from!"
Years ago I read that cotton eyed joe was the backroads doctor who got girls out of trouble, often at their peril. A girl with complications might never be able to get married.
I remember the story was when the song came out was that "cotton-eyed Joe" was an... infected one-eyed trouser snake. "If it wasn't for the fact that I have pus coming out of the ... well, I'd be married."
Never regret clicking a Polyphonic video! Keep being you my guy! And seeing you for the first time, you can ascend to the pantheon of bald, bearded, bespectacled RUclipsrs!
I'd always thought 'Cotton eyed Joe' was about someone with eyes that are soft like cotton, rather than the more literal interpretations presented in this video. It's crazy to think there are other interpretations of the song I'd never considered! I also wanted to say I saw your recent video, and I really like the new content style. It's really nice to see a blend of the wonderful polyphonic editing and your more simple and personal, filmed parts. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do in the future :)
Same, even when I heard it the first time when I was 14 (the Rednex version) I just assumed it was a guy with big, soft eyes, stealing the ladies with his gentle charms from more hard-ass cowboys.
So basically the song has always been a viral two-minute ear worm with an associated dance… TikTok seems like a perfectly logical next step in its journey
Why are you making me cry at 7 am on a Saturday? I only became aware of this song cuz I'm a musician who plays day gig and suddenly kids were asking me to play this tune. And yep it fills the tip jar. But after your video I think I love this song. Thanks man! Great video.
This is what I find so great about your channel, I would've never thought twice about Cotton Eye Joe and now I've discovered that there's a whole world to history of this song! I find the topics you cover to be genuinely fascinating!
My grandparents are bluegrass musicians and I grew up with a deep respect for folk music, the way that people and time have taken and adapted music is beautiful!
On the note of folk. How come there are so many American folk songs that became an international sensation only after non-Americans covered them? My two biggest examples are Cotton-Eye Joe and House of the Rising Sun, but there are others. It's a bit uncanny how Americans are not able to capitalize on their own folk music.
In other countries/cultures, folk music is traditional music. It is not meant to change or be adapted. It is passed down, unchanged from generation to generation. American music, including folk music, is always changing and always adapting. Considering the population of the world- more non-Americans love American music, than Americans love American music. (6 billion compared to 300 million?)
Nirvana did release "Where Did You Sleep Last Night?" on their Unplugged In New York album in 1994. This was based on "In The Pines" by Leadbelly which was likely adapted from an older folk song.
@@Redmenace96 I highly disagree. Folk music, by its very nature, is in continuous change. Instruments change and disappear. New music genres are introduced that change what's popular. At least in my country, folk songs have as many interpretations as people alive here. Let's take a simple example, Bella Ciao from Italy. The song is around 200 years old and has as many versions with different orchestrations and different lyrics. The only thing folk songs seem to keep is the emotional tone of the piece. Similar to how Cotton Eye Joe was a dance song in the beginning and most reinterpretations are also dance songs. Or how Bella Ciao is a song for the people against oppressors. And even that can change for specific interprets.
Black Betty . It seems to be traditional to usurp culture with a modern viewpoint. However, isn't that progress, development and evolution? Without those things society would be stagnant. I think.
This video absolutely made me DIE laughing while also teaching me about something I'd never had known about otherwise Thank u for what you do polyphonic
Asleep at the Wheel. Maybe that's why Rednex' version felt familiar when it came out - used to hear a fair bit of 'em on WSCP back in the late 80s/early 90s.
I live in Tennessee and wondered at the time "why is there a techno song about and old folk song from around here?" Never knew the meme existed until this second that I'm typing this comment... Asleep at the Wheel also has the best version of Hot Rod Lincoln. lol
@@anthonyrowland9072 YES! I grew up on their version of Hot Rod Lincoln. Oh, and even though Brooks and Dunn wrote it, Asleep at the Wheel did Boot Scootin' Boogie first and better.
Talking about the Sea Peoples on History forums and groups, this song comes up. No one knows where they came from for sure, no one knows where they went after they wrecked the Bronze age civilisations around the Mediterranean, much like Cotton Eye Joe...
I had forgotten that you are now an on camera person at times and i was caught off guard haha. I like the new format. Excellent video, fantastic research, and the editing was flawless.
As someone who researches historical works for a living, I'd disagree that the dialect depicted in Diddie, Dumps and Tot is racist. It is fairly accurate as to how slaves spoke in those days. They did in fact have their own dialect(s), regionally. Most slaves and former slaves didn't have access to formal education, and like many insulated groups they developed their own ways of speaking. I am glad that we have these things to show us how actual people spoke in those days. It isn't racist to record these ways of speaking. We cannot erase things that might make us feel slightly uneasy, as subjects like slavery should make us feel. And while perhaps the dialect depicted here may be overdone, it does shed light on how many real people spoke back then. In fact it gives them more if a voice than if their words had been written down conventionally. The fact that it isn't written in perfect English from the perspective of a black person in those days makes sense, because most didn't, and probably didn't want to, speak perfect English. Outliers exist of course, and there actually some were well educated slaves and former slaves who did speak perfect English, but that was far from what they would have considered "normal". Not a criticism, at all. I understand where you are coming from and I agree with the sentiment which is well intentioned I'm sure. And the essay itself it marvelous.
Michelle Shocked did a great version of Cotton Eyed Joe on her Arkansas Traveller, adding verses where Joe is a drunk doctor who performs a botched abortion in a cornfield. It is pretty powerful.
Thank you for mentioning this. When hearing the "Rednex" version for the first time I was pretty sure they had "borrowed" the idea from her. Great song, definitely worth checking out. "Arkansas Traveler" the song is called "prodigal daughter".
Which makes for an interesting meaning of “had not have been for Cotton Eyed Joe, I’d been married a long time ago”… (Just wanted to comment on the same song. I really like Arkansas Traveller and it’s take in classical folk songs)
Interesting, never knew the origin of that Rednex song goes so far back. There's other pop/dance songs with a long history too. For example "Sabres of Paradise - Wilmot" (1994) is based on a 1931 (!!) calypso song "Black But Sweet" by Wilmoth Houdini. Also, the origin of "House Of The Rising Sun" by The Animals (1964) dates all the way back to at least the 19th-century.
Freak me out! We learned and sang a version of this song EVERY YEAR when I was grade school in the early 70s. For some reason, remembering our class singing it has been running through my head for a couple of weeks. And now you've done a whole thing about it. Way more complicated history than I ever would have guessed.
It's rare for a RUclips video to take me on a strongly emotional and fascinating journey about something I've completely discounted as trash many years ago. As much as I'll reject the Redneks (and the current) interpretation of the song, Cotton Eye Joe is legendary, and now I know that. Thank you.
The ballad versions of the song don't work for me. It's the name - Cotton-Eyed Joe is too silly of a name for me to take the rest of the song seriously. It's like writing a heart-drenched love song about Spongebob Squarepants. The two things just don't go together.
Pausing at 7:10 and comparing the two, Seeing the ‘black language’ version next to the actual version orally kept from plantations makes the stereotyping and racism very plain
This song has a very specific place in my heart because while I don’t know of any line dances to it as you imply there are several circle dances to it and when I was in dance class our instructor picked an especially difficult one of them to teach us that involves switching from moving forward to rapidly running backwards while dancing and back every time the time signature changes(8 times) and whenever we were being unruly or goofing about too much nothing would be said but the song would be put on and we would have to run to form a circle and do the dance and it was exhausting but it was also such a playful light hearted memory for me of being young and silly and pushing limits until the music came on
5:40 as a millennial myself, lets stop putting down the newer generations like the older generations have done. We all have our own brain rot. Remember Nyan Cat,Numa Numa, Peanut butter jelly time. Etc.
As Gen X myself, I need to sarcastically point out that you had to put down older generations to make your point about not putting down newer generations.
Great video - so interesting. You popped up in my feed and I'm really happy about that. Just Subscribed and now I'm going to pop into your back catalogue!
i like that meme😩🤣 17:46 i don't know how you didn't break into laugh before!!! As a hispanic gen-z i only knew about the redneck and meme version, it sounded to me like some folk song when i was little and well, i was rigth. Thank you for talking about the other versions, interesting video
As a Hispanic Millennial ('94)I hadn't heard the meme version only the others, but it slaps frfr, now I'm going to listen to a 10-hour Loop while I play dead by daylight LOL
something i love about this song is that it's still being reintroduced in new styles *even within folk music*. Listen to the version by Pawns or Kings, it's a radically different, potently dark version of the song and yet it still feels appropriate.
I've loved your presentations ever since I saw the one about John Bonham. And your point about folk rewriting standards, and cultrue not really caring about intellectual property rights can also be used in defence of Led Zeppelin's appropriation of blues "standards" which were often acredited to a specific musician but were almost always, themselves, reinterpretations of songs that were often around long before Robert Johnson first recorded them.
Where did you come from where did you go where did you come from cotton eye joe i really find cotton eye joe over played i was born in the 2000s i know a lot of modern Day music Noah i don't know what the jiberish is saying it is hard to understand and even in the song
Came over from Nebula to leave a comment. I appreciate the changes you're making in presentation style - while I don't want every video to be include bits like the gadagedgo at 17:45, it worked well here. Thanks for what you do, appreciate the interesting history!
Thanks a lot for this one! I'm a huge Karen Dalton fan so I hope this video gets her some deserved attention. Your video on the House of the Rising Sun is one of the best videos on RUclips and seeing the background behind these folk traditionals is endlessly fascinating. Thanks!
Friendly tip from Europe: the s in "gravitas" does get pronounced. This is because it's a latin word, not French, though I understand it might look like it.
Ill retract my comment if I see what ur talking about but, in American English "gravitas" is it's own word and the "s" is definitely pronounced, lol. Nobody says "gravitas".
@@dantedefault2331 huh.... Yea.... You are right. I guess I got Mandela'd cuz I could swear that OP said it was NOT pronounced. Oh well, no biggie, thanks for the correction! The both of you.
If I recall correctly, my father (whose family is from around Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, and Tennessee) thought the "cotton" in "cotton eye" was the same as in "cotton to" and meant that Joe was pleasing to the eye.
Where did this Content Creator Polyphonic come from? And where will he go??? Enjoyed this one a lot, and yes it's still very much art as far as I'm concerned
My personal favorite version of the song is the one they made for Swiss Army Man. It was the first “slow” version of the song I’d ever heard, and much like the rest of the music in the film, it is atmospheric, dreamy and friggen beautiful.
Two things: 1. That Rednex version of the song was a very, very common part of all the Bar and Bat Mitzvahs I attended in the late '90s. 2. Thank you for introducing me to the Nina Simone version -- I didn't know it existed and I'm definitely gonna enjoy listening to it now.
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Only Polyphonic can convince me that a chicken nugget singing "Ge da ga dee ge da go da do" is a contribution to the rich, centuries-old history of folk music and tradition
While also referencing brain rot in the same video.... let's not forget that little tidbit :P
😂
I’m sure the hoity toity of their time was bitching about the Brian rot that was 1920’s cotton eye Joe.
Are you fn kidding me? Calling someone brown on the outside and white on the inside? Assuming you're white on the outside and trash on the inside. Stellar human alert. #sarcasm
@@andersjjensenuhm actually 🤓👆Skibidi rizz mog sigma chungus is the peak of human evolution , our minds have reached a point so high that evolution itself has plateaued due to us reaching the peaks of evolution, Skibidi rizzlers 🤓👆
You saying "What in the Skibidi Rizz is going on here" with a straight face while staring at the camera made me lose it. Absolutely iconic storytelling, and a fantastic Video Essay as always!
Since your comment is the top one, sitting directly under the video, the joke was ruined for me.
@@noneofyourbusiness4616on the contrary I read it and was waiting for that line the whole time. Still no idea what it means but my kids found it hilarious 😂
17:43 Well, the straight face was less so towards the end… 😅
Tbh, I still have no idea what that means
Yeah, I thought I was having a stroke.
My nine year old grandson was singing Cotton Eye Joe when he visited a few weeks ago. I pulled out my banjo and played it for him. We were both amazed that the other knew it. Then I showed him Rednex on RUclips. Lol. He couldn't believe his eyes and ears.
This meme is unironically going to get some kids into bluegrass music and as a bluegrass native I absolutely love that.
Hey Noah, I know that it took a lot from you to leave your previous format behind, but I gotta say, while the visual component was amazing, most of the value of your essays is still very much present. Your genuine love for music, your keen eye for a good story, and your excellent writing are still shining through in this new format. Plus it has the added bonus of your personality and humor peeking through. I hope you find it much more manageable to keep making videos like this, and keep your channel alive, because it’s not just content to a lot of us. Cheers mate. Have a great day!
hear hear!
I did not know that a shift happened, did something go wrong with his channel?
Gid Tanner and his skillet lickers has got to be the greatest band name in the last 96 years. Who would have thought 1928 was so epic
Only surpased by The Chief Tans 😂
@@kasperprindal-nielsen4983If chief means head, this implies
"Stick your head in the microwave and get yourself a tan."
-Weird Al, "Dare to Be Stupid"
I found a band called Oedipus and the Momma's Boys, and I think that might be the funniest names I'd ever heard
The best one I've thought of would be for a punk band. The Skeeter Tokens
Well the song their known for isn’t lmao its titled “run (hard r) run” and the lyrics are much worse sadly
Having only known the Euro dance version, hearing Cotton-Eyed Joe slowed down tittels my brain.
haha yeah I totally get what you mean
ha, we have same name
I didn't expect you to look like Vsauce
Hey, VSauce! Polyphonic here.
Chubby Vsauce
And yet I'm not overly surprised
theyre both just standard millenials lol, just go to a craft beer tasting or a Tame Impala concert and you'll see tons of Vsauces and Polyphonics
@@danielktdoranie the thicker the sauce... the sicker the toss?
It’s so crazy how I’ve made a character in my head based on your voice and you ACTUALLY look like a totally different character for real wow
Same here! I'm like, who's that guy with Polyphonic's voice??? 😅
@@Zzyzzyx right? I expected a wirey, pointy, clean shaven guy with black hair. Like a villain, now I think of it 😂
Hahaha same here
@@DrippyWaffler Yeah I 100% had thin Canadian twink in my mind's eye.
If that dude played a fiddle made from his dead child's coffin.... what the hell is the kid buried in then?
Yeah, I wondered that too.
Maybe it was the wood left over from making a small coffin?
a cello, obviously
The ground.
Likely cremated. It isn't uncommon to buy a coffin for the veiwing but have the body burned in a cardboard box, or no box. He probably kept it, intending it to be a memento mori, and decided to make it into an instrument.
It is fictional though, so maybe it isn't that thought out.
I love Polyphonic so much that wasn't even thinking about Cotton Eye Joe until 2:57 despite clicking because of the title and thumbnail.
The switch from the chicken nugget singing nonsense to suddenly hearing Nina Simone a few minutes later gave me a coughing fit.
Now do the song behind “the Hamster Dance.”
I always thought it was just that one opening song from Robin Hood😭
@@Lemieux_channel I mean yea, but that ain't enough for a you tubes!
This just sent me into a nostalgia spiral and had to immediately look up the original song. Thank you from this often pessimistic 30 something. It warmed my heart for a few mins
Oh Lord no! I had to suffer with that song for a decade. Small kids in the car will do it to you.
YES YES YES
As an Irish dancer, I grew up constantly listening and dancing to the Cheiftan's version. Always loved it, but love it even more knowing more about the history of the song
Their live version with Ricky Skaggs is one of my favorites. You can tell just how much fun he’s having.
This song dates back to the 1850's America where West African music met Irish immigrants. It was always a dance song. I have heard traditional versions. All were line and square dances with calls derived from French long after the English gave up French call dances. Kinda helped that there were French Creole and Cajun communities in parts of the South.
In 1980 I had to learn dances to this song along with 7th grade girls as both an athletic event and cultural education. The middle school band had to learn an Oohm Pah Pah waltz and mortify us again both as an athletic event and to respect cultural heritage. Note Cotton Eye Joe was considered to represent both white and black culture.
Nina Simone’s version of Cotton Eyed Joe is my favourite. It’s heartbreakingly gorgeous, and I was taken aback when I first heard it. Also I wasn’t familiar with Karen Dalton until now. What a beautiful voice. Thank you sharing part of her story with us.
I didn't know about Nina Simone's version until I saw this comment.....thank you 💚
Meanwhile here in Texas we just kept dancing this both black and white without anyone knowing anyone ever knew it was a thing. Big thing was Urban Cowboy having a version of this. Everyone knows that more than Rednex.
@@crysbrown80 You’re welcome, but they mention it in the video and play a snippet!
I was not expecting this to be an enlightening essay but I’ll be darned I am inspired by this. Folk has always been an interest of mine and this showed me that the culture is still alive, even if it has a different face. Thank you Polyphonic, thank you very much!
Thank you for spending some time covering Karen Dalton. She's unfortunately been relegated to "your musician's favorite artist" status, similarly to Blaze Foley and Townes Van Zandt.
And so many more ...
Dalton abandoned her children for a life of sex and drugs. Not someone to admire.
@@AderynBach42She also got married at 15. The world was, is, a wacky place.
RIP Drunken Angel
@@AderynBach42appreciating their music is different than admiring them as someone to aspire to be
4:36 was the craziest thing I’ve ever heard or seen from a polyphonic video💀
Skibahdeerizz
I had this realization the other day that the version of the song "Dirt Man" by Carter Vail where Vail sings a verse and chorus and then the screen flashes "Your turn" is another way digital technology and social media are revolutionizing folk music. So instead of someone else adding a verse to your song at the singalong or drum circle, now millions of people are doing it remotely, creating infinite versions of the song. And that's fucking awesome!
Ok but this makes me think how it IS fascinating to consider what folk culture is in an hyperconnected era. Folk culture still exist irl, but analyzing what constitutes online folk culture from a sociological standpoint is relevant and interesting. There's so much to look for: memes, specific music trends, microcosms in forums, even folktales (maybe creepy pastas and fake tumblr posts?) And how all this interacts with previous/current offline folk culture
In all actuality, I did indeed click for cotton eye joe lore, however now I'm much more interested in Karen dalton at 3:26
'50's-'70's folk musicians often led interesting, but frought, lives. Look up Tim Buckley, Nick Drake, Townes Van Zandt, Phil Ochs, and Connie Coverse if you ever feel like your day is going too well.
At 6:12, how badly did you want to say "The story of Cotton Eye Joe begins a long time ago"?
So nice to see you having fun in this more relaxed format. Humor is a welcomed addition to Poliphonic's deep dives in music history and the reflection about it's cultural, social and political meaning. And you keep on wax poetic'ing the hell out of any subject you want! That's the beauty of Poliphonic for me.
I called one of my impossibly fast tarantulas cotton eye Joe: ie where did you come from where did you go
If it hadn't been for him, would you have also "been married long time ago"?
@@NightsReign that is where the lyrics fail as I did get married a long time ago
@@minacarolina7671 Wait, I think the lyrics actually say "...I'd been married long time ago." not "I'd have/I'd've been".
So, I guess the lyrics would work. Right?
I’m near the end of the video, and you cracking up at trying to say "gegagedigedageda-O" (I copied and pasted that from Wikipedia because I had no idea how to type it out) was so hilarious and joyful! 😂 Also I totally agree with your points about how remixes and memes like this introduce new generations to the origins of songs, and that’s a beautiful thing. I’m an older millennial, and I was really into hip hop and r&b as a kid in the 90s. When I realised that most of the songs I loved were sampled from older songs, I’d look up the originals. I’d study the liner notes on my CDs, find out where the samples came from, and go crate digging for the originals. 70s funk and soul are probably my favourite genres to this day, and 90s hip hop and r&b were my introduction to them. When gen Xers and millennials complain about gen z “ruining great music”, just remember the boomers said exactly the same thing about the songs we loved when we were kids.
It brings me joy that the Nina Simone's version is the one that inspired you. Anything she does puts chills on my body. Her version of this song makes me tear up every time.
Todd in the Shadows is the GOAT, and been doing the RUclips music essay thing for longer than pretty much anybody else.
can't believe the cotton eye joe video is 10 years old.. feels like a couple years ago i stg
How to tell if someone is a loser, they use the term GOAT
@@rocoe9019 I think we all know who the real loser here is.
@rocoe9019 yeah, they use it like you used it 😂 here take this L, you've earned it💯
Is it when someone needs to belittle others for no reason?? @@rocoe9019
I'm giving this a like because the ad was at the end. Thank you sir
19:09 SHOW THE PUPPY 😭
SECONDED. WE NEED THE PUPPY.
It's internet rules. If the pet exists (or a random animal, it doesn't even need to be cute), it is shown.
The pet tax must be paid
I would like to see the puppy.
The tax must be paid!
"...and Ottawa Senators games"
I nearly spit my drink out laughing 😆
Holy smokes, is Polyphonic from Ottawa?
@@earlwashburn1002 dunno, not especially curious 😅
@@earlwashburn1002 Pretty obscure reference to drop otherwise, I'd say.
I unironically did not know they were saying “if it hadn’t been for Cotton eyed Joe” I just kinda figured it was a vocal scat
Not that hard to hear.
@@Aeneiden hindsight…hind-hearing? Is 20/20
When I was a kid I thought they were saying "bit off a limb for Cotton Eye Joe" 😅
"If it hadn't been for Cotton Eyed Joe, I would've been married a long time 'go." I only made sense of the first part, because it made the most sense with the second part.
2:49 Why am I looking at the midjourney result for “Anthony Fantano and Vsauce’s genetically engineered child” right now. And why is it speaking
DUDE I THOUGHT THE EXACT SAME THING
I feel like we as a society need to start talking about child marriage as the horror show it is. She didn't get married at 15. Her father sold her to another man to be his child housemaid and sex slave at 15. She was r4p3d repeatedly before the age of 21 and had 2 children with the man who bought and molested her. She finally escaped to New York City where she played the blues and found a home and survival income in the folk-punk scene. She tried to self medicate her PTSD and depression with street drugs due to a lack of psychiatric care services and contracted HIV due to the deliberate exacerbation of the crisis by the New York Police and the Regan Administration. Eventually dying from complications of her disease in 1992 because Regan blocked the FDA and CDC from approving or researching known effective treatments as a weapon to try and exterminate queer people, people with mental health issues, and people with addiction issues by weaponizing HIV.
It's far more cruel and tragic of a life than you depicted by sugar coating the reality of child marriage, Evangelical conservative culture & policy, and the brutality of the times in which she lived.
looking forward to the 20 minute follow up on Old Pop in an Oak
I just want to understand the fucking lyrics
Strange, yet cool, how memes can introduce younger listeners to some classic stuff! Case in point- I was playing my album of Yes' "Fragile" and told my son to get a listen to this classic song, "Roundabout"- but he'd already heard it (and OF it) from a meme that I had no idea existed. His comment: "Cool! THAT'S where it originally came from!"
I remember the Rednex version back in the 90s. I was still a kid and the song was pretty catchy. I had the whole album as a cassette later on
Years ago I read that cotton eyed joe was the backroads doctor who got girls out of trouble, often at their peril. A girl with complications might never be able to get married.
I remember the story was when the song came out was that "cotton-eyed Joe" was an... infected one-eyed trouser snake. "If it wasn't for the fact that I have pus coming out of the ... well, I'd be married."
Lost it while he was trying to “say it in polyphonic” lmao
Never regret clicking a Polyphonic video! Keep being you my guy!
And seeing you for the first time, you can ascend to the pantheon of bald, bearded, bespectacled RUclipsrs!
I'd always thought 'Cotton eyed Joe' was about someone with eyes that are soft like cotton, rather than the more literal interpretations presented in this video.
It's crazy to think there are other interpretations of the song I'd never considered!
I also wanted to say I saw your recent video, and I really like the new content style. It's really nice to see a blend of the wonderful polyphonic editing and your more simple and personal, filmed parts. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do in the future :)
Same, even when I heard it the first time when I was 14 (the Rednex version) I just assumed it was a guy with big, soft eyes, stealing the ladies with his gentle charms from more hard-ass cowboys.
“We have been here before. “
The “ties that bind “
What a precious moment to acknowledge.
All are precious to me.
Jeremy
So basically the song has always been a viral two-minute ear worm with an associated dance… TikTok seems like a perfectly logical next step in its journey
Why are you making me cry at 7 am on a Saturday? I only became aware of this song cuz I'm a musician who plays day gig and suddenly kids were asking me to play this tune. And yep it fills the tip jar. But after your video I think I love this song. Thanks man! Great video.
This song was played through my middle to high school dances for at least six years straight. As a millennial.
This is what I find so great about your channel, I would've never thought twice about Cotton Eye Joe and now I've discovered that there's a whole world to history of this song! I find the topics you cover to be genuinely fascinating!
I respect your respect for Todd in the Shadows. He's an og for real. Skibidi.
On god
He's a truly skibidi sigma
No cap
My grandparents are bluegrass musicians and I grew up with a deep respect for folk music, the way that people and time have taken and adapted music is beautiful!
On the note of folk. How come there are so many American folk songs that became an international sensation only after non-Americans covered them?
My two biggest examples are Cotton-Eye Joe and House of the Rising Sun, but there are others. It's a bit uncanny how Americans are not able to capitalize on their own folk music.
In other countries/cultures, folk music is traditional music. It is not meant to change or be adapted. It is passed down, unchanged from generation to generation. American music, including folk music, is always changing and always adapting. Considering the population of the world- more non-Americans love American music, than Americans love American music. (6 billion compared to 300 million?)
Nirvana did release "Where Did You Sleep Last Night?" on their Unplugged In New York album in 1994. This was based on "In The Pines" by Leadbelly which was likely adapted from an older folk song.
@@Redmenace96 I highly disagree. Folk music, by its very nature, is in continuous change. Instruments change and disappear. New music genres are introduced that change what's popular.
At least in my country, folk songs have as many interpretations as people alive here.
Let's take a simple example, Bella Ciao from Italy. The song is around 200 years old and has as many versions with different orchestrations and different lyrics.
The only thing folk songs seem to keep is the emotional tone of the piece. Similar to how Cotton Eye Joe was a dance song in the beginning and most reinterpretations are also dance songs. Or how Bella Ciao is a song for the people against oppressors. And even that can change for specific interprets.
Black Betty . It seems to be traditional to usurp culture with a modern viewpoint. However, isn't that progress, development and evolution? Without those things society would be stagnant. I think.
Sorry the end "I think" sounds a little arrogant. I should have said " in my opinion"
As a huge fan of this channel and Todd in the Shadows, it is nice to see you reference him.
This video absolutely made me DIE laughing while also teaching me about something I'd never had known about otherwise
Thank u for what you do polyphonic
I grew up dancing Cotton Eye Joe(usually the Asleep at the Wheel version) and that was traditionally followed by Frenchie’s Schottische
Asleep at the Wheel. Maybe that's why Rednex' version felt familiar when it came out - used to hear a fair bit of 'em on WSCP back in the late 80s/early 90s.
I live in Tennessee and wondered at the time "why is there a techno song about and old folk song from around here?" Never knew the meme existed until this second that I'm typing this comment...
Asleep at the Wheel also has the best version of Hot Rod Lincoln. lol
@@anthonyrowland9072 YES! I grew up on their version of Hot Rod Lincoln. Oh, and even though Brooks and Dunn wrote it, Asleep at the Wheel did Boot Scootin' Boogie first and better.
Talking about the Sea Peoples on History forums and groups, this song comes up. No one knows where they came from for sure, no one knows where they went after they wrecked the Bronze age civilisations around the Mediterranean, much like Cotton Eye Joe...
This made me realize how few blind people you see today. There were many blind musicians in the 60’s and 70’s, but I can’t think of any now.
Stevie Wonder
Well, here you go. I’m not famous but still. I’m a blind guy who likes to make music lol
@@jeffreybollman6186 and Ray Charles. But yeah, OP makes a great point. Blind representation in modern music is pretty low
@@pensivepenguin3000Jeff Healey (RIP)
You trying to... scat? gives the video a whole different twist. Gotta love it
If there's a Nina Simone version of anything, that's the best version.
Millennials had hamster dance, it's the same nonsense as the chicken nugget lol
But then, who got Badger Mushroom?
Exactly. There is nothing new under the sun, just let the kids have their fun.
I had forgotten that you are now an on camera person at times and i was caught off guard haha. I like the new format. Excellent video, fantastic research, and the editing was flawless.
"Ol' pop in an oak.. Ol'pop in an oak... whytschigidilaerzshwuuu... "
As someone who researches historical works for a living, I'd disagree that the dialect depicted in Diddie, Dumps and Tot is racist. It is fairly accurate as to how slaves spoke in those days. They did in fact have their own dialect(s), regionally. Most slaves and former slaves didn't have access to formal education, and like many insulated groups they developed their own ways of speaking. I am glad that we have these things to show us how actual people spoke in those days. It isn't racist to record these ways of speaking. We cannot erase things that might make us feel slightly uneasy, as subjects like slavery should make us feel. And while perhaps the dialect depicted here may be overdone, it does shed light on how many real people spoke back then. In fact it gives them more if a voice than if their words had been written down conventionally. The fact that it isn't written in perfect English from the perspective of a black person in those days makes sense, because most didn't, and probably didn't want to, speak perfect English. Outliers exist of course, and there actually some were well educated slaves and former slaves who did speak perfect English, but that was far from what they would have considered "normal".
Not a criticism, at all. I understand where you are coming from and I agree with the sentiment which is well intentioned I'm sure. And the essay itself it marvelous.
I can remember learning to square dance in the mid 90's to this song and knowing some of the history on it is pretty cool.
Oh man, great video as usual but I got really excited to hear the Polyphonic intro 😢 I need it in my soul
Superlative analysis and history...
I always know I'm in for a special treat with your Vessays 🤗
So a Swedish group took an Irish version of an American song and made it world famous
Love it
Michelle Shocked did a great version of Cotton Eyed Joe on her Arkansas Traveller, adding verses where Joe is a drunk doctor who performs a botched abortion in a cornfield. It is pretty powerful.
Thank you for mentioning this. When hearing the "Rednex" version for the first time I was pretty sure they had "borrowed" the idea from her. Great song, definitely worth checking out. "Arkansas Traveler" the song is called "prodigal daughter".
Which makes for an interesting meaning of “had not have been for Cotton Eyed Joe, I’d been married a long time ago”…
(Just wanted to comment on the same song. I really like Arkansas Traveller and it’s take in classical folk songs)
@@JaimeBuelta-yx5ej Exactly, I think that’s the line she riffed off in coming up with that interpretation.
Man. Burl Ives... the magnificent rolling narration of my childhood, good lord. Him and Thurl Ravenscroft, we'll never see their equal again.
Interesting, never knew the origin of that Rednex song goes so far back. There's other pop/dance songs with a long history too. For example "Sabres of Paradise - Wilmot" (1994) is based on a 1931 (!!) calypso song "Black But Sweet" by Wilmoth Houdini. Also, the origin of "House Of The Rising Sun" by The Animals (1964) dates all the way back to at least the 19th-century.
Yeah didn't Polyphonic do a video on House of the Rising Sun some time back?
Freak me out!
We learned and sang a version of this song EVERY YEAR when I was grade school in the early 70s. For some reason, remembering our class singing it has been running through my head for a couple of weeks. And now you've done a whole thing about it.
Way more complicated history than I ever would have guessed.
What the Skibide rizz is unc talking about
New fear unlocked: polyphonic saying "skibidi rizz"
Polyphonic defending meme culture as folk culture means that, logically, SiIvagunner is a hub of folk culture.
I like that.
It's rare for a RUclips video to take me on a strongly emotional and fascinating journey about something I've completely discounted as trash many years ago. As much as I'll reject the Redneks (and the current) interpretation of the song, Cotton Eye Joe is legendary, and now I know that. Thank you.
The ballad versions of the song don't work for me. It's the name - Cotton-Eyed Joe is too silly of a name for me to take the rest of the song seriously. It's like writing a heart-drenched love song about Spongebob Squarepants. The two things just don't go together.
Last year I line danced to this song every month at my church dances, this song is still being celebrated and honored to this day.
Really appreciate this format and seeing you on camera.
When cotton eye joe comes on at the barn dances at my college (university of Illinois) the who place goes wild, people love it.
Still can’t believe that the euro dance worked with the folk song.
Someone says there’s a video about Cotton Eyed Joe that will make me tear up.
Me: “doubtful.”
They say it’s by Polyphonic.
Me: “oh, of course I will.”
Pausing at 7:10 and comparing the two, Seeing the ‘black language’ version next to the actual version orally kept from plantations makes the stereotyping and racism very plain
This song has a very specific place in my heart because while I don’t know of any line dances to it as you imply there are several circle dances to it and when I was in dance class our instructor picked an especially difficult one of them to teach us that involves switching from moving forward to rapidly running backwards while dancing and back every time the time signature changes(8 times) and whenever we were being unruly or goofing about too much nothing would be said but the song would be put on and we would have to run to form a circle and do the dance and it was exhausting but it was also such a playful light hearted memory for me of being young and silly and pushing limits until the music came on
5:40 as a millennial myself, lets stop putting down the newer generations like the older generations have done. We all have our own brain rot. Remember Nyan Cat,Numa Numa, Peanut butter jelly time. Etc.
As Gen X myself, I need to sarcastically point out that you had to put down older generations to make your point about not putting down newer generations.
As a millennial myself just shut the fuck up and stop worrying about it 😘
No
Great video - so interesting. You popped up in my feed and I'm really happy about that. Just Subscribed and now I'm going to pop into your back catalogue!
i like that meme😩🤣 17:46 i don't know how you didn't break into laugh before!!! As a hispanic gen-z i only knew about the redneck and meme version, it sounded to me like some folk song when i was little and well, i was rigth. Thank you for talking about the other versions, interesting video
As a Hispanic Millennial ('94)I hadn't heard the meme version only the others, but it slaps frfr, now I'm going to listen to a 10-hour Loop while I play dead by daylight LOL
Great work polyphonic, awesome video about a song that a didn't know I needed to know more about
Dude it’s Vsauce
His tulpa.
Simon Whistler(!)
Vsauce after pigging out on ribs and tamales
What's a Vsauce?
something i love about this song is that it's still being reintroduced in new styles *even within folk music*. Listen to the version by Pawns or Kings, it's a radically different, potently dark version of the song and yet it still feels appropriate.
I've loved your presentations ever since I saw the one about John Bonham.
And your point about folk rewriting standards, and cultrue not really caring about intellectual property rights can also be used in defence of Led Zeppelin's appropriation of blues "standards" which were often acredited to a specific musician but were almost always, themselves, reinterpretations of songs that were often around long before Robert Johnson first recorded them.
I had never heard of Karen Dalton, but I'm going to look up her albums now. Thank you.
Where did you come from where did you go where did you come from cotton eye joe i really find cotton eye joe over played i was born in the 2000s i know a lot of modern Day music Noah i don't know what the jiberish is saying it is hard to understand and even in the song
Came over from Nebula to leave a comment. I appreciate the changes you're making in presentation style - while I don't want every video to be include bits like the gadagedgo at 17:45, it worked well here. Thanks for what you do, appreciate the interesting history!
When will we have an essay on Tom Waits? I feel like people been sleeping on Tommy The Cat for too long
Who is sleeping on Tom Waits? Any self-respecting music nerd knows and appreciates him. He’s widely praised and recognized
Thanks a lot for this one! I'm a huge Karen Dalton fan so I hope this video gets her some deserved attention. Your video on the House of the Rising Sun is one of the best videos on RUclips and seeing the background behind these folk traditionals is endlessly fascinating. Thanks!
She could resent the comparison with Holiday all she wanted, but come on! It’s uncanny. At least Dylan admits he began by imitating Guthrie.
"... and Ottawa Senators games"
This is the kind of depth I look for in music video essays
Friendly tip from Europe: the s in "gravitas" does get pronounced. This is because it's a latin word, not French, though I understand it might look like it.
Ill retract my comment if I see what ur talking about but, in American English "gravitas" is it's own word and the "s" is definitely pronounced, lol. Nobody says "gravitas".
La-di-da Mr. Frenchman.
@@TrentRyanKatzenbergerThat's what he said, my guy
@@dantedefault2331 huh.... Yea.... You are right. I guess I got Mandela'd cuz I could swear that OP said it was NOT pronounced. Oh well, no biggie, thanks for the correction! The both of you.
Friendly tip from America: we fought and won several wars not to gaf.
"Where did you come from, where did you go, where did you come from?" "Copperhead road."
If I recall correctly, my father (whose family is from around Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, and Tennessee) thought the "cotton" in "cotton eye" was the same as in "cotton to" and meant that Joe was pleasing to the eye.
The assertion that "meme culture is folk culture" is the most insightful idea I've heard in years
Where did this Content Creator Polyphonic come from?
And where will he go???
Enjoyed this one a lot, and yes it's still very much art as far as I'm concerned
My personal favorite version of the song is the one they made for Swiss Army Man. It was the first “slow” version of the song I’d ever heard, and much like the rest of the music in the film, it is atmospheric, dreamy and friggen beautiful.
You look just like that dude from Vsauce... or am i just discovering I'm racist...
Nah, those two really do look alike.
Two things:
1. That Rednex version of the song was a very, very common part of all the Bar and Bat Mitzvahs I attended in the late '90s.
2. Thank you for introducing me to the Nina Simone version -- I didn't know it existed and I'm definitely gonna enjoy listening to it now.