Reviewing The Latest Food and Drinks Trends Vol.12 | Sorted Food
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- GET READY for another FOOD TRENDS episode where our chef and normal homecooks taste, debate and explore a bunch of interesting food products that caught our eye!
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I wish you were a bit more sceptical about the health claims for these foods.
EDIT: for example, I googled ‘adaptogenic' and learned from wikipedia that 'the term "adaptogen" cannot be used for marketing in the EU' because it has no scientific basis. Which seems like something you could usefully point out.
YES!
That is a very good point, considering how many new foods are sold on their supposed health benefits. Superfoods especially tend to be high in woo-woo content.
Absolutely this. Although the polite skepticism on Ben's face was pretty funny.
Yeah I would appreciate a bit more research and science too. They are not health experts or some such, I get that but they have a big audience that will look these claims and think them as credible because the guys are the ones saying these claims.
Skeptical*
I had to watch the adaptogenic mushroom "explanation" twice because it's was such concentrated nonsense that my brain refused to process it.
Magic mushrooms probably do more good then this nonsense
*supposedly* he said. Why are you so averse to learning?
And after watching it twice it still doesn't matter since it isn't in any way scientifically proven and just something the company claim to be true.
@@goldenghostinc you mean they AREN'T?! After hearing the founder brought them back from California, I was under the impression they had smuggled 'shrooms over and made them into beer 😂. I was wondering why it was legal to sell or even grow.
Did you like the origin story of the owner getting introduced to these mushrooms on her trip to Cali?
I don't know when your birthdays are, but I would love to see you guys make some personalised birthday cakes for each other sometime
James made Ben one during lockdown
Pass it on birthday edition? 😂🤗🥳
That or a “Sorted birthday” where they can do that and/or a challenge.
@@hasitdawnedonyou they have already done that a few months ago for the other chef that left can't remember his name now 😂😂
@@thomaslaing5854 already forgotten James? 😂😂
Glad the community has pointed out that some of these products need to be scrutinized more. If I wanted to find a bunch of pseudoscientific advertising nonsense, I'd read the product page.
Here! Here!
My thoughts exactly! Especially that "beer". Mushrooms will not "detox" anything because nothing needs detoxing!
I'm a 40+ year nurse, retired and pseodo-scientific medicinal bullshite is my pet peeve!
Community pushed back. THese advertisers still sold the snake oil!
@@rhijulbec1 Well, we DO need "detoxing".
And we have our liver and kidneys for that exact purpose. 😋
> I'd read the product page
Yourself. Afterall, that's all they're doing.
It's the person who is going to purchase the items responsibility, the title is reviewing trends.
Barry: “Try my sausage, it’s good.”
Ben: “I don’t have to be asked twice.”
Beeeeeeeen 🤮
@@SortedFood more like Beeeeeen 😳😚🤭
No hesitation at all 😂😭
@@SortedFood Sorted onlyfans when?
1:15 Meanwhile "trimming your bush" is a practice that millions of people around the world still do regularly🤪
As you guys have gone along I've seen a dramatic drop in the general skepticism you have towards 'trendy' products. Used to be that you really had a critical eye towards the realistic impact of the product and the claims it makes. Now though every fresh trend seems to be "the bees knees, an amazing concept, and what everyone should be doing". Too many of these products claims are simply accepted be they health claims or ecological impact. Just because a company says their bread will make you run faster and jump higher doesn't mean it will. Just because this farm or that farm has *the* sustainable, organic, eco-centric, shade grown, fair trade, method for the future doesn't mean they actually do.
While the comments seem to at least somewhat reflect my feelings on this, I personally would like to see a return to a bit of skepticism about the actual benefits and impact of these 'trend products'. I mean let's be honest, of the things you've assessed as "good" trend products over the past three to five years how many are even still operating let alone have evolved from a niche product for the bourgeois into something the general populace uses? I think the answer will sit somewhere between few and none.
They do seem very hesitent to criticise stuff nowadays im guessing its because the company is bigger so maybe more of a target for lawsuits from annoyed companies or just because they are trying to partner with more third party stuff and it doesnt look good for them to shit on stuff in that case.
The bee bread was especially non critical. It's basically just sugar, fat and some minerals. It's really not that good for you and won't do any of the things that the company is claiming it will.
@@David-ud9ju They're just quoting that the fermented bee bread is just "full of good stuff" and my mind immediately goes to, okay like what? How does it work beyond "bees are natural and nature is good thus this is good because nature".
right! i feel like now they would drink red bull and somehow make the argument it might just actually help you grow wings
#sponsored 🧐 ?
Oh my gosh… as a non-drinker from a country where we don’t have sloes, this is the first time I realized it was SLOE gin. I thought it was “Slow Gin” - as in, made with some kind of more meticulous, slower, artisan process.
Ahaha! Same! Like slow-cooked pork. XD
Same here! 😅😅
Sloe is another name for the blackthorn bush and is in the same family as roses. You might have them just call them something else. As far as I know they have been grown everywhere that support roses.
@@user-neo71665 yes, you’re right - it’s called blackthorn in Canada! But it’s not something commonly grown here. I’ve never seen it at any garden centre, although to be fair I haven’t looked especially hard lol.
When products in these types of videos are making wild health claims, I'd really prefer that you guys just said 'the brand makes some claims about the health benefits of X.' I agree with lots of the comments here expressing disappointment with how you're approaching these products. I get that you're not a science channel, but elsewhere on your channel you're much more skeptical/balanced. I'd really like to see you stay away from food trends that focus on health claims unless they're really huge trends (like charcoal in foods, which you couldn't get away from for a while) - and then if you're going to cover them, pay a researcher to get some balance rather than parroting the product website. That's an important part of assessing the trend. Alcohol free drinking is a huge trend (much more so than this adaptogenic woo) that I'd love to have heard you speak more about!
"Pay a researcher" is literally how all of these claims get both made and debunked. I don't believe it should be their job to make up our mind. Same with the sustainability trends/gadgets. They present a thing and then it's up to us to decide useless or not.
@@cftyftyufyfuyfty But they have a food team and lots of other 'behind the scenes' people working on this channel. One doesn't have to have a PhD in Molecular Biology to do some basic research and see if there have been scientific studies or not. Ebbers used to be touted as a the science 'super geek' which he clearly never was and surely isn't now, but anyone with an actual science background could be on the team - or added to the team - and research this type of thing, and get paid like the whole team does.
@@cftyftyufyfuyfty I am sorry, but I disagree.
"Paying a researcher" should not be seen as "paying them of to tell the world what suits you". tarren (I presume) suggests to get a scientist involveld who has experience with reading, unterstanding and explaining the current state of knowledge on a specific topic to put these claims into context.
"They present a thing and then it's up to us to decide useless or not." - This is fine and fun when it comes to pretentious ingredients but potentially harmful and misleading when it comes to half-true claims.
When claims are not backed up by evidence based science, appropriate methods and reproducable results, testimonials should not be presented as facts! Especially not on youtube, by a reputable channel, to a young audience that trusts the creators.
100% agree. My biggest gripe with these guys is they uncritically swallow any marketing material put in front of them that they can't directly test themselves.
I mean they literally promoted a full-on MLM before, they do 0 research at all. I enjoy their cooking challenges, but these trend/pretentious/"ooh look at this expensive crap" videos are getting really tedious at how manipulative they are.
The seemingly passive acceptance of the non-scientific anti-intellectual marketing claims for some of these products is quite unbecoming.
I am SO glad (in a way...) to find all these critical comments here! I really hope they consider changing their approach to these things!
@@Zimmerschluessel I was expecting to, actually. Know your audience, really. I recall we've had this kind of debacle before, and people lit into them just the same. I wish there were more dislikes.
Yeah, I’ve given up on these guys. With the state of the world right now there's no need for more science denial.
Honestly makes it look a bit like an advertisement, as opposed to a review. Surely Sorted isn't selling out and becoming evil...
Next time, please watch the video before commenting.
"They claim", "they are claimed", "supposedly", "they say", etc. No one made any claims about these products. They said what the companies claim, and nothing more, nothing less.
Show me the science behind adaptagenics because it sounds like more holistic mumbo jumbo.
TIL that holistic is mumbo jumbo
TIL that holistic is mumbo jumbo
That's because it is. And there is no science. "Adaptogenic" is a made up thing without a gram of proof.
ho·lis·tic
/hōˈlistik/
adjective
PHILOSOPHY
characterized by comprehension of the parts of something as intimately interconnected and explicable only by reference to the whole.
MEDICINE
characterized by the treatment of the whole person, taking into account mental and social factors, rather than just the symptoms of a disease.
@@liesalllies Your point is? The colloquial use of the term is used to describe bullshit masquerading as medicine.
I agree with a lot of the comments on here about some of these 'health' claims. I think you used to be better at discussing and cautioning around untested food, and you seem to have lost a bit of rigour which really set you above other food channels with that.
I think they figure that their audience knows better by now, given the availability of more info.
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@@Uncle_Smidge did you just wake up after spending the past 5-10 years in a coma? all signs point to audiences being completely incapable of recognizing fact from fiction. never before has the availability of false info been more widespread. and everyday it becomes harder to sort through the haystack of misleading and maliciously false information in order to locate a sliver of factual information.
"And if you look at the back it will tell you all of the botanicals that they pick from the hedge row that go into their gin" (3:42) As someone who has a very uncommon allergy to something that a lot of craft distilleries like to put into their gins, lavender, I am always so happy when companies do this. Makes trying out new gins way less stressful as then I know whether not I'll possibly die from trying it.
We believe in 100% transparency, and we are more than happy to answer any queries regarding what botanicals have been used. Protecting those with allergies is incredibly important.
@@sloemotiondistillery6428 Great stuff! Always happy to see this, especially after I've had other places tell me they consider it a trade secret and they won't reveal ingredients (which baffled me).
I'm also allergic to lavender! It's so hard to tell if it's in products when they don't list all the ingredients individually.
The generic "spices" listing in ingredients can cause problems for my sister and her food issues since often the "spices" can include MSG which makes her sick. I have to read ingredients carefully as well since I have a date fruit allergy. So awesome that a liquor company is making certain that the free from crowd knows what's what.
@@asmith8692 MSG sensitivity has been scientifically proven to be a myth. The original paper "discovering" MSG sensitivity was written by a racist trying to hurt Chinese-American immigrants, many of whom worked in Chinese food businesses which use MSG in their food.
Tomatoes or ketchup, soy, mushrooms, cheese, literally any meat or seafood, nuts, grape products, broccoli, corn, beans, cabbage, eggs, etc etc... it would be easier to list foods which DON'T naturally contain MSG. If she's fine eating any of the above without issue she only thinks she's sensitive to it.
That said, if your doctor has directed you to have a low sodium diet, this IS a legitimate health concern which means you need to limit MSG. It's in the name, mono SODIUM glutamate.
"This product claims super health benefits, live longer, fight harder, cyber implants last longer. Free ranged turnips from the Norfolk hills of southern Alabama in the US picked by Madagascar farmers raised in the Buddhist mountains of Brazil. How much is that 100g bag worth to you? A couple quid you say? Well it's 75 pounds per 100gram."
"That seems reasonable given what it takes to make"
I thought I was the only one who was getting baffled by how often they now just claim a product as being "totally excellent and worth the value". Like that gin. Four tiny bottles for nearly 20 pounds? At that price its going to remain a niche product for well off people or gin enthusiasts. Which is fine but let's not pretend its going to suddenly blow up.
@@UnspokenOldOne I mean it was meant as a gift to give to somebody or try out a couple different brands so honestly that price doesn't seem to outrageous.
@@Drcats69 Well sure if we're discussing it like an every once in awhile gift. That being said, I imagine if I saw it in a liquor store it'd be priced premium and the growth/size of the brand would be reflective of it being a niche, premium product.
Just my thought.
@@UnspokenOldOne yeh those bottles seemed tiny, i was actually contemplating getting it to let one of my co workers try who loves gin but he'd barely get anything out of those things.
@@Aalnius Yeah, as Ebbers said it was a fun little flask thing to take on a hike with him for the occasional sip but it would basically be a glasses worth of drink. I actually think that Barry's glass was that entire bottle.
Eb: "You can buy Queens off the Internet."
This explains Janice.
Mushroom beer sounds like extreme bunk, especially the "adaptogenic" thing.
Mushrooms definitely can have some beneficial effects on the human body, but I question how much of that remains in beer.
Also, be careful with mushroom supplements. Chaga mushrooms can give you kidney stones, or even permanent kidney damage.
With supplements you have to trust they tested the mushrooms etc.. And if you're eating the mushrooms in original form - how do you know how much of anything they contain?
Glad I'm not the only one whose noticed how willing they are these days to just take whatever is being quoted at them as being gospel truth.
@@UnspokenOldOne im all for trying new things, but yeah they give way to much credence to these woo woo products
Well i mean...It Is something from California...what did you expect?
@@deviousmile669 It's made it Britain, the owner was in California and brought some of the mushrooms back and played around with them.
@@terriatca1 i meant the idea
The anti woo-woo sentiment in this comment section has rekindled my hopes for humanity. Stay safe and sane folks, and thank you!
The “adaptive” mushrooms sound very sudoscience to me. Far to much made up magic health improving foods in the food industry.
95% of new health benefits of food is mostly bullshit. And if it ain't bullshit you could almost always get the same nutrient/help/benefit from a random fruit or a vegetable at the super market instead of wasting 5-10$/Pound
Pseudo-science... it's not science done on a Linux machine.
"We've all been trimming our bushes TOO MUCH"
Jaime: do not laugh. do not laugh. do not laugh.
Well you guys got proper scorched in these comments, and rightly so. Good to see the community in action.
*lindsay ellis being guillotined by her own community intensifies*
I dislike how this series has kind of devolved into ads for the product, rather than a more critical assessment of them.
Interesting point... Tbh, we do so much research into them (independently and we buy them ourselves) so that we can be honest. But we don't think there's much point in wasting your time on rubbish stuff... So only the good ones make it to screen!
@@SortedFood That's fair, I guess. I just kind of wish more of that research was on the show. Hearing Barry talk about bee bread, and how great it is, just comes off as the company's schepiel about the product, without any citations to prove the claim that bee bread is nutritious for humans, say.
@SORTEDfood I am sorry, I hope that this will not be you final statement about this? I really, really hope you take the time to read the critical comments and discuss them in your team (even though the dislikes on the video do not show how many people were really disappointed...) !
If you think that this reaction is an over-reaction and if you really did do 'so much research' into these completely pseudoscientific claims, then I can only conclude that you don't care about putting misinformation out there. You are a very well produced channel and you build a loyal fanbase over the years - your viewers are used to trusting you!!
I understand that I approach this from a very specific position (MSc in biology) and I know that it can be overwhelming to do (online) research on topics that you are not educated on. BUT this is my point exactly! You run a highly produced channel and built a loyal audience over the years, that is used to beliving you. Most viewers don't do their own research of published, reviewed and real scientific data and you are murking the waters considerably by just reading the claims that these companies make (because they want to sell their stuff).
You lend a huge amount of credibility to these unproofen statments!
IF you actually did your research, I have to say that it looks like you are not great at it - WHICH IS TOTALLY OKAY ! But please be aware of this and either get help from actual scientists that can put stuff like that into perspective (for you, your team and your audience) OR you could just stop promoting trendy clickbaity products.
There is so much amazing cooking content on your channel and even more stuff that you could explore further. E.g. more vegetarian or vegan dishes, tips to keep your produce fresh, more info about food waste...
You are in the very, very privileged position to have a HUGE audience that listens to you and using this platform for actual, useful and sustainable information would sit a lot better with me.
Thank you for reading and I am sorry for the harsh words. Take care.
Eating honey to help with hay fever is a popular misconception. Most plants that cause hay fever or allergies are wind pollinated (that's why the pollen is in the wind and gets blown around to irritate your sinuses, etc.). They are not insect pollinated. The bees don't go to the wind pollinated plants so they don't pick up that pollen to bring it back to the hive to do the theoretical desensitization that some people claim as the basis for this misconception.
I've tried bee pollen once from a local bee keeper. Yeah, it made me miserable. I wasn't expecting it to do that...but, it did. So, I'm thinking there's something in pollen that can make people sick or unwell.
Just because some pollen gets picked up by the wind, does not mean none stays in the flower, for bees to harvest. And it really depends upon what one is allergic to. A lot of us with "hay fever," aren't allergic to just one plant, or even type of plant.
On top of that taking bee pollen like that can cause allergic shock. So not only is the 'cure' an old wives' tale, it's potentially dangerous. You wouldn't tell someone with a nut allergy to go suck on some Nutella to get desensitized. So why do that with bee pollen because of some superfood woo woo?
With the mushroom beer, is the trend you're looking at "Health foods that are total BS"? Because if so, you've definitely found several in these food trend videos. Yet have never expressed any doubt about their efficacy.
The whole "free from" conversation as well, that 1 in 4 based on medical advice... I'd like to see that study.
A LOT of people say their doctor told them to be free from where they actually just had it suggested as one of many different options to try and fix the problem. "Try this, try that, and this and that and see if any of those work"
Coeliac disease must be one of the most (wrongly) self diagnosed physical diseases out there.
@@StabbyJoe135 I took him as meaning out of all the people choosing to be "free from " something, only 1/5 had medical advice , so 4/5 were self diagnosing
@@brianskanes1 To be fair, in some countries (e.g. anywhere poor) it's impossible to get a diagnosis, and in others (e.g. the US) you won't be getting a diagnosis without very good and expensive private insurance and $30,000 in the bank to cover the co-payments.
The tragedy of modern medicine is that for many people self-diagnosis is all they can possibly hope to afford.
Also, I feel it necessary to point out that some food intolerances are rare only in northern Europe. Lactose intolerance is the prime example; nearly everyone of east Asian, west African, indigenous North American, etc. ancestry over the age of five is lactose intolerant, but lots of northern Europeans (including the English) don't think lactose intolerance exists because it's rare there.
6:00 "They adapt to whatever is wrong with your body and fix it."
Yeah that is not how that works, but I am curious to see if they actually have some medicinal properties. Mushrooms are generally very healthy, well.... except for the toxic ones of course.
Mushrooms in general are healthy because they're good sources of B vitamins, minerals, and soluble fibre; in fact, they're the best easily accessible source of selenium, and are also rich in copper and potassium.
I'm not sure if mushroom ferment does any of that.
I did a quick google on it and it basically works on the biological pathway that is related to stress and from that I conclude (as a 3rd year biomedical student) that in the right amounts it can reduce the harmful effect of stress.
@@megamert2848 You described the effects of Vitamin B6.
They're healthy and will have a positive effect if your diet isn't including those already. Better fix would be to actually balance your diet a bit.
The term they use is also illegal in marketing in the EU, the FDA has sent warning letters to companies using it and a bunch of Asian countries gave up on research in the 80's because they couldn't find any evidence on the term "adaptogens".
It's a scam unless you're not eating properly. At which point, you won't fix it with drinking that for a few months before forgetting it exist.
@@simmerke1111 Like I said it was only based on what a quick google said it was supposed to do and then basing on what it is supposed to do what the options of it possibly helping where (thought that that was clear).
@@megamert2848 Most of the comment wasn't specifically directed at you. My bad for not making that clear.
I just wanted to add my voice to the other comments asking for you guys to be more sceptical of the health benefits of the things that you show. These types of episodes have an air of infomercial about them that is really off-putting. By the looks of it, you weren't paid to promote any of these products which makes it more confusing you would basically read out their press releases verbatim - though to be clear it would be much worse if you were being paid to spruik junk science. I'd love to see an episode where you got an expert in to debunk these health benefit buzzwords like 'adaptogenic'. I don't think "this product makes x claim, but we won't comment on that' really cuts it any more. You are promoting these products by virtue of selecting to have them on your show. That carries with it some responsibilities which you haven't been meeting.
I agree with you. This video made me confused if it was actually sponsored or not.
Exactly, they're giving these products a platform and exposing all of their audience that bothers to watch to these "claims".
Agree!
yep, quite off putting
Same. There is no proven benefit to "adaptagenics" . Mushrooms are good for you but not because of some psuedoscience appeal to the ancients bullshit.
I love thse episodes, but you really should mention when the "health benefits" of products haven't actually been scientifically proven. Even if you say they "claim to" have these benefits, you need to actually point out that there is no research to support it. Also, while there doesn't seem to be any studies to support bee pollen as allergy medicine, it may give you a bad allergic reaction instead, so please be careful.
Especially when such woowoo hasn't just not been proven to work, but actually proven to NOT work as advertised.
Yep, mentioned a casual "supposedly" is not gonna cut it. You are better than that guys!
I mean, isn't that the whole point of using 'claim'? "Claim" to me means "This is all bull, but it's what they say." Otherwise they would say 'It does this'.
The adaptogenic mushrooms sounds like straight up panacea bs. I like the idea of non-alcohol beer, but why can't it just be sold as that? The strange health benefit stuff is just quackery.
@@BioYuGi that would work in theory. But even the video shows how just saying "claims" or "supposedly" doesn't work when after giving a bunch of claims about the mushrooms. It's followed with, "so they're smart mushrooms?"
"Smart mushrooms, yeah"
You guys really need to be better about checking and adding addendums to the health claims which are coming up more frequently on your show. Some seem really spurious.
Imagine if after the "trimming the bushes" part, they'd throw out the "this video is sponsored by manscape". Such a missed opportunity
I concur fully.
Can we get an allotment tour? Would love to see everything Ben has rolling in there
He talks about it a lot on his Instagram
@@rae-el-gee thanks. I don't think I follow him, I'll make sure I do
Guys, low alcohol or no alcohol beers are wonderful in social drinking situations, situations where someone is trying to cut back on alcohol, and just a lovely part of craft beer.
Mixing that with mushroom woo really detracted from several valid points as to why that product was good, and I would love to hear or see a disclaimer statement when y'all are quoting the claims these brands make about their products, as some of your more impressionable viewers may take these claims as gospel.
Entertaining video, but hearing you spout ad copy that would have been scoffed at on a pretentious ingredients video but here instead was taken at face value, was disappointing. Love your channel, take care!
You've hit the nail on the head - when products in these types of videos are making wild health claims, I'd really prefer that they just said 'the brand makes some claims about the health benefits of X.' I think they need to stay away from food trends that focus on health claims - and if they're going to cover them, pay a researcher to get some balance rather than parroting the product website. Like you say, alcohol free drinking is a huge trend (much more so than this adaptogenic woo) that I'd live to have heard them speak more about!
As soon as they started on the mushroom beer, I stopped watching the video. As a reformed "fall for BS health claims" person, I blurted out an expletive when I heard the word "adaptogenic"; seriously, that claim is scientifically IMPLAUSIBLE! It's right up there with "antioxidants" on my BS metre.
@@jessica-mariegervais9800 is it foods claiming to have antioxidants or antioxidants themselves. Because antioxidants are a real thing scientifically proven to counteract oxidative stress(a source for cell damage). The only real concern is whether they are helpfull when consumed by the general population in large amounts. IMO they are better thought as a minor curative to people exposed to excessive free radical sources, like people who work in the sun, are around smoke(smoker or not), exercise extensively, or a combination of all three. They shouldn't be thought of as a preventive measure for like cancer, and they certainly shouldn't be used excessively. I compare it to milk or carrots, yes it can help certain things mildly but they don't give you steel bones and eagle vision.
Very well said.
Those impressionable viewers need to take responsibility for themselves. If they can't then they shouldn't try anything. Time for people to grow up.
The health claims from that fungi beer sound very snake-oily
The fact they used the phrase 'vegan beer' solidified the bulls*it for me
Sounds utter shite and I wish they wouldn’t advertise this kind of thing it’s pretty unflattering to their brand
@@annother3350 last time I checked beer is vegan anyways 😂
Next you'll be telling us CBD is snake oil too. Get with the times, why are you people so averse to learning new things?
@@fran3646 Exactamundo Fran
Barry initiating the ‘Bush’ conversation and Ben running with that theme. Yeah, I’m going to hide now 😂
And Jamie processing and then visibly thinking "I'm gonna stay out of this one"
I've been a fan of your videos for several years by now, but lately, this parroting of alleged "health benefits" as an undisputed positive feature of a food product and being this unsceptical about such claims (not to mention rather questionable collabs with & praising of companies like BASF!) has become... **exhales sharply** not a good thing.
The BASF thing really rubs me the wrong way as well...
It's also not surprising that the mushroom beer "suddenly" became a trend in the UK. Considering that the term "adaptogenic" is *_illegal_* to use in marketing under EU law as it's recognized as pseudo-scientific nonsense. But guess who isn't a part of the EU anymore...?
I absolutely love your videos and am a Sorted Club member. However, please stop presenting claims of "health benefits" from products if you haven't confirmed that these products actually do what they say on the tin. And I mean really made sure. E.g. a lot of nutrient supplement companies will claim that vitamin (insert pretty much any vitamin) has significant health benefits, which it does. What they fail to tell you is that as long as you have a good diet you're already likely getting this vitamin and you don't need to eat a supplement (and in fact your body may not be able to absorb more of it or it may actually be harmful to get too much) meaning that you're just wasting your money.
To this point, a quick Google search tells you that there's no consensus on health benefits from adaptogenics and the same seem to be the case for bee bread.
If you haven't got the time to research this, please add disclaimers or something of the like to say that these claims from companies or beekeepers associations should not be taken as fact. That way you can still review the food aspect of it without getting into whether these companies are disingenuous or not. The trick is all in the wording:
"Many Olympic athletes eat bee bread, as they believe it strengthens their immune system, increases oxygen intake, boosts performance and helps them recover quicker after training."
Because an Olympic athlete believes that these effects are real doesn't mean that they are. It also doesn't mean that they aren't. They're not scientists after all. But the way you're presenting it makes it seem like these are tangible health benefits and in many cases this just isn't the case.
At best it's misleading to review these products in this way without actually discussing the efficacy of them and at worst it can be downright dangerous. It's disappointing to see that you haven't been more responsible when dealing with these types of products and I hope you will do better in the future.
I totally agree with you and thank you for that excellent reply! I was struggeling to put it into word and you nailed it!!
I am so disappointed that these types of videos are increasing on the channel - I hoped that the pandemic and all the horrible misconception around vaccinations and the virus in general REALLY highlighted the importance of the appropriate communication of science...
I do not want to exaggerate the impact or importance of this video, but the trend of wrong and misleading info on the channel is disheartening :/
Seriously haven’t you got anything better to do if you didn’t like it them simply don’t watch it if you could have done better then you make your own video on this yourself
@@charlotteadderley2949 "Don't like, don't watch," has never worked in context. By definition you first have to have watched something in order to have a problem with it. By extension, the recent attitude of Sorted to "review" products by parroting the marketing then coming up with lazy comments on a product is ruffling feathers - as can be plainly seen in this comment section.
You guys need to give us both a tour of the studio and introductions to the food team! We hear so much about them but never really meet them 😂
You get to meet the food team more over on our social channels. We often do Instagram Lives with them.... keep an eye out for ones popping up in the near future :)
@@SortedFood aight, you got yourselves a deal! 👊🏻
Oh yes PLEASE
Can we take a moment to appreciate the fact that Jamie always seems to give Ben the chance to show off the various things coming out of his allotment. Pretend all you want, we can see the proud friend showing through.
You guys should do a badge challenge where you lay out some ingredients and tells the guys to cook a dish but not tell them what the badge is for so they overthink everything trying to figure it out.
We do love a good torture video 😄
Strongly agree
YES!
Make it so
so basically you're suggesting a mystery badge challenge
I’ve just realised how lovely the new setup looks, will we get a new kitchen picture or tour?
We had the tour during the live event
@@TaeBaker is there a way to see it now if we missed the live show
This has been highly requested, and i've passed your comment onto the team. There was a segment with the new kitchen on the PIO Live, however we know that not everyone managed to catch the LIVE event :)
@@SortedFood very excited for this! Do we have a working sink now?
@@mistressvoon Same question here 😁
This is a weird comment but I miss the “I’m gooey in the middle baby let me bake”
I miss it because it was goofy and fun. Lately, I find the videos just preachy.
One word: Gout.
Peas, beans, lentils, many kinds of legumes are not very healthy to eat in the same amount that many eat their wheat. Purines. If you're switching from wheat to alternatives that raise your purine intake, be aware that you have to shrink down your portion size and cut out other foods you usually eat that contain purines. Gout is hell to endure, and many have to get on a medication to relieve it for the rest of their lives. If you have no medical reason to not eat wheat, it's better to just be mindful about what buying products made with sustainably sourced wheat.
As a person who suffers HEAVILY with gout and is now on Allopurinol for the rest of my life. Thank you for this.
How right you are! Thank you so much for adding your knowledge
The number of people who refuse to eat wheat in the UK versus the number of people with genuine medical reasons to avoid it is insane. So many knobs blindly following fads.
Reading online about gout it seems meats and seafoods are the biggest problem as well as beer. Not many places mention legumes, most mention that purines in vegetables actually don’t seem to affect gout as much as meat based purine. All that said, for anyone suffering with gout take all advice from your doctor or nutritionist.
@@fabe61 It makes them feel special and gives them something to talk about at parties.
I really like Sorted but even some of the broader trends of food media pervade here. I wish food media was more willing to eschew quasi-protectionist veneration of local ingredients to a respect for whatever country or region can make something the best or most efficiently. Food is not medicine but some of the health claims made by some brands certainly seem medical. We should be much more skeptical of the claims made by particularly small food producers.
A little louder for those at the back: "FOOD IS NOT MEDICINE."
that's kinda offensive and racist ngl, food has been used as medicine in indigenous tribes and communities for 1000's of years,- your racism is showing 🤮
@@graceskinner2820 Grace, I'd suggest researching the definition behind the word 'racism'. Misuse of such a word dilutes it's impact.
@@GoodKingMort Well said.
“Maybe as old as Ebbers.”
I love how he is the youngest one, yet they make us all believe he isn’t. 😂
maybe he's the youngest technically, but emotionally he's about 89
I reckon he got stuck at 69 years old and will stay at that age for a while.
Is he? I always thought he was the oldest.
Well, given that half of his references make him seem like he lives in a Ghibli movie cottage somewhere doesn't help his case...
@@MarieGarrett. I think he's born around '88.
Awesome video as usual. You are and continue to be hilarious, and I love that you are really leaning into ethical consumption. However, it would be great to see you note that the "adaptogenic" claims aren't substantiated by science, nor any other testing, nor do they have any robust explanation of how they claim this process happens. It seemed like you were communicating it as fact, as opposed to repeating what the product claims.
Obviously you guys are hilarious and talented but, what I love most about this channel is how much you make me think about where my food comes from and sustainability as a whole. I've been making better choices for my family since I subscribed in hopes that this message helps save the world. I'm really high right now but I mean every word. My loving thanks.
Jamie's facial reactions while Ebbers and Barry were talking about trimming bushes 😂
When Ben requested that we offer suggestions about exotic fruits in a previous video, I thought don't have any at first. But a few days ago thought some up.
Chokecherries, huckleberries, prickly pears, and as a switch to a vegetable nopales.
Perfect title doesn't exi...."IT'S THE EBBER-SODE"😂
"They sing together" Love it!
Jamie's face while Ben is talking about trimming bushes has be giggling first thing this morning. He is just imaging the comments section. LOL It's been a rough week. Thank you for that giggle guys!
Love you guys, but you’re getting really bad about straying from science when discussing these products and their benefits.
Science is only as good as the people funding the scientists. Surely you don't believe that researchers are divine incorruptible beings with absolutely no biases whatsoever? Also you might notice they say *supposedly* a lot. That covers the due diligence, unless you're fully braindead.
@@cftyftyufyfuyfty Literally no one is saying that scientists are unbiased. But that doesn't change the fact that making wild, unfounded health claims that could actually harm people is dangerous and harmful. "Supposedly" isn't enough. Casual viewers might even miss the word entirely.
"i've got an allotment" is the new "i've been to japan" or "i've taken a wine course"
More like, "My HeRb GaRdEb" has successfully evolved into "I've got an allotment."
You really need to collaborate with Atomic Shrimp, I'd love to see what weird foods the combo makes!
Yes that would be cool.
I'm all for trying new products and hearing how well they taste, but I would definitely recommend making it more clear in the dialogue when medical claims have not been (or cannot ever be) fully verified by the brand. Obviously they're going to market their product(s) however they can to make a sale, but it gets muddy if your team is also marketing it in the same way. Even just a pop-up graphic on the screen that says, "company claim" or something, I don't know. The risk of touting inaccurate medical claims is that it also then calls into question the accuracy of any other information you share with us (sustainable farming claims, environmental impact claims, etc.). As an American, I am begging you to be upfront with us whenever you share information that might be kind of iffy. We literally don't care if you repeat what other people are claiming; just please be extremely transparent about whether you're also backing up those claims with your reputations.
Hell yes to this!
That's why they said the brand claims x or supposedly is good for y that's not them supporting it all that is do your own research. These are just trends in food they're testing them they aren't scientists who specialize in health food claims
@@ayajade6683 - It's not enough to say "the company claims X".. if you then right after it wholeheartedly state "YES they ARE smart mushrooms."
EDIT: Also, they have over 2.5M subs. They have monthly paying members on their apps. They have merch sales. ... They can afford to pay a (food) scientist to have a quick look at these products and verify them. Hell, there are (food) science content creators that would collab with them on a little segment about it for free. Them not being scientists is NOT an excuse.
Jaime: "I know what that is because I *used* to have a cat."
Did Woody pass??
I wondered that, too! : o
Yes he did a while ago it’s on his Instagram page
SortedFood: did a whole sponsored series about food and sake pairings.
Barry @ 3:21: "When people talk about food and drink pairings, I'm always like yeaahhh suuure you're clutching at straws"
4:20
Echoes in the distance "Barry and Ben are the best of friends..... "
"Trimming your bush..." made me wonder if that was going to be a segue into a Manscaped ad XD
My sister works there lol. So buy their stuff.
Jaime: They adapt to whatever's causing you issues & fixes them.
Me: Oh, so it's horseshit?
Yeah, are we talking about mushrooms or nanites?
There are robots being developed now that will do that too.
Getting flashbacks to my elderly but active mum falling off a ladder while gardening, and at the hospital announcing to the doctor "I was just trimming my bush, it was in a terrible state..." How he kept a straight face I'll never know.
Jamie trying not to think about trimming bushes 🤣🤣
These lovely gents have taught me so much about food without being preachy. Absolutely addictive to watch. They are all made of very good stuff!
I'm shocked there are so many people in the comments thinking so critically. I'm a dietitian and this makes me so happy to see that not everyone is falling for these marketing traps.
Is actually so true. And honestly Sorted should be proud they’ve created a community like this and that holds them to such a high standard.
As a vegetarian, I love that these alternative pastas can be my protein source if I really just fancy a bowl of pasta. However, I don't think it replaces the satisfaction of wheat pasta in terms of chewiness ;)
Thank you for these episodes, truly a walk through the latest trends. Much appreciated.
that opening sound is just so satisfying i wish i could play it on loop
Just a heads up: Eating gluten free when you're not celiac increases your risk of getting diabetes. Alas, changing out your wheat pasta for legume pasta might have its benefits but going full gluten free doesn't.
it still baffles me that it became trendy to pretend to suffer from celiac
@@kingkarlito Did people really pretend, though? Didn't they seriously think that gluten made them ill? Only it turned out it was all the other shit they cut out of their diet at the same time that made them feel better.
The kitchen looks so good!!! Can’t wait to see the guys battle soon!
Always great topics to look into and I love it when they pair it with food.
I've been watching these guys since they started and they still manage to make me chuckle with their ability to plant innuendo in most things. This episode was chuck full of chuckles. Classic Sorted.
Black pudding sausage roll… I know what I’m making at the weekend !!
Don't forget to send us a pic of the sausage rolls over on Twitter or Instagram :)
I am with Jamie on the Bee Bread. I need more info. Personally I love honey, but do we have to take everything from the bee's?
No good beekeeper takes EVERYTHING from their bees, otherwise their bees would leave (since they're not leashed or tied down). Not saying we should take the bee bread, because I don't know enough about it to know if it's fair to take from the hive. But rest assured, that if you're buying bee products from a local beekeeper (and not the bear bottles from the supermarket), you can be sure they're good to their bees.
@@MissingmyBabbu I never buy the bear bottles. I only get local honey. It's great for my allergies.
@@cylversprings That's good! I but a local blend that's delicious, and I've noticed I haven't had reactions to the local plant pollen nearly as much/as bad.
Lithuanian here 🙋🏼♀️ I remember eating the bee bread as a child for health purposes like 10-15 years ago (and by eating I mean being forced by my mom to eat it cause I always hated the taste and thought it looked like animal droppings, sorry for that visual comparison). It’s quite interesting the way they now package it as a craft superfood and even export it. Back then, it was just something you could get if your grandma knew an aunty who knew another aunty who knew somebody who had bees 😅
That part about being in the bar and not drinking is becoming the norm for me and more interesting soft drinks are a must.
The Fourth Segment is literally ‘Too Bee or Not To Bee’.
Need to add a steal episode where the normals have a chance to steal anothers badge
The Agriculture Nerd in me geeked out when Ebbers talked about peas being nitrogen fixers in soil!!
The trends series is weakest because of the would instead of should. It is a 'try the band wagon out and focus on the companies claims and the taste' instead of 'does this do anything and is there a valid reason to do this'. I personally watch to see new techniques and ideas but when I see things I already know are a mouthful of marketing and not much else, it immediately damages the episode's credibility.
I love these solely for the puns 😅
It wouldn't be a SORTEDfood video without a good pun!
Never been this early ☺️ I love these guys so much
Barry and Ben tag teamed the innuendos in this one...what with all the bushes and the sausages...😂
Without a doubt, has to be in the top 3 bloopers of this year...
I didn't get the blooper, why it was so funny?
If Ebbers is a gin fan, there's a great one called Rare Bird, distilled in Malton, North Yorkshire, which just so happens to be a great foodie town too.
This sounds great - thanks for the recommendation :)
This has to be one of the most consistently, enjoyable channels on youtube. Quality work guys.
Besides the absolute pseudo science they were spouting this episode 😟
I love you guys! I’d love a video on each of you guys like y’all’s background and day in the life!!! Much love from NC, USA!
The kitchen lookin fancy 👀
Ebbers "I took bottles of gin on a hike"
also Ebbers "I don't like the reputation I'm getting"
I have the subtitles on and I love at 16:34, it says "[genuine laughter]" when Jamie is chortling :D
Love this video! I'm totally going to try the mushroom beer, honey pellet thingies, and pea pasta.
I love these it always starts me shopping
Baz, you didn't need a haircut at all. Love the cut but LOVE the longer look on you as well. Sorry not a comment about food but just complementing you!
Jamies comeback to Ben complaining about not liking the reputation he’s getting as Boozy Ben, was pure gold! 👍🏻
It would be really cool if you could do some tips on sustainable cooking. You always say you can use the whole animal but showing us how to use the whole animals, shopping seasonally growing your own. Maybe a tour of the allotment
ngl those black pudding sausage rolls look so good!
"Trimming your bush?"
"Try my sausage, it's good"
Boys, we're not even 5 minutes in
I'd love to see you guys review the new pasta shape, cascatelli, that recently came out!
Bee bread is the bee's protein. Nectar is the carbohydrates. It's fun to see the different pollens in the spring because they are all different colors.
Sloe Gin in food: I use it to make a glazing syrup to coat my blueberry pies. If I use frozen wild blueberries, I mix it with the blueberry juice, then reduce it.
Also great to make Game meats sauces in hinting season.
Oh wow! That sounds incredible! We'll definitely have to try that one.
It makes a wonderful sticky glaze for a roasted ham too if one is so inclined.
The important question is do they finally have running water
Like a lot of other comments here, my wife and I love sorted, watch every video, and even make quite a few of the recipes. HOWEVER, you need to stop reading out the health claims verbatim without at least a quick google on the validity. Either that, or just mention that it has unverified health claims.
These videos are coming across as endorsing increasing amounts of pseudo-scientific claims with regards to food products. We may start skipping the food trend videos if this continues.
You had me at "trimming the bush" 😂😍😂
Baz happily shouting 'I AM a lucky sausage' made my day!
Echoing all the other comments re: health "benefits" for these! Separately-Barry, do it! I'd love bee content!!