I just Ordered mine yesterday. Any tips on doing plastics the proper speed and power settings would be appreciated. Maybe some extra information on the software would be nice.
I wish I'd have found you when I owned my business. You do awesome work - and I can imagine the cool products you could have engraved for me. Keep up the great work!
Just a quick note - 70mm is 2.75 in not 3.5 so the engraved area is smaller than you mentioned. Still can do coasters and such but only a 2.75 inch image on the larger surface. 90mm is more like 3.5 inches. The spec sheet you show at (9:48 says 7cm); the 2.76" they show is only true if you go out to 4 decimal places 🙂
Can I download a copy of the software before buying it? I’m so used to using light firm, but it doesn’t look too bad can you? Go over the alignment for small objects like that screwdriver again thanks .
Hey Sam. Thanks for this video. I bought one of these a week ago and love it so far. you CAN actually adjust the focusing lasers to line up with the cutting laser. Remove two screws from under the head near the lasers. Slide the plate with the LED off (careful of the LED wires, and there you will see the laser mounts with the set screws. I only loosened the inner ones to move them. The only small side effect if there is a little hazing from the lasers on the bed but its minimal. This is caused from the thickness of the cover plate but there is no interference from it. Just thought youd like to know this :) keep up the good work. Dave
@@vrobert94 imo the software is fine. It's done everything I need it to. I don't see a need in spending $200 on Lightburn for galvos but it may benefit some
These are getting very useful but 70x70mm is just a little too small. 100x100 will do coasters and metal business cards. Will a different lens change to area?
Bet money it's not just a leadscrew, but also one or 2 linear rails inside that channel, especially with how sturdy it is. And NOW you've got 2 Galvo's, and here I'm stuck with zero, I'm definitely jelly, LOL.
I'd also suggest getting some coin blanks for testing on these things, I'd be interested to see how the Atomstack and the Genmitsu etch on those, how deep they'll engrave, etc.
Very interesting idea on the coins! I'll have to see about trying some out. Another channel I follow recently did a video on them and their US-based source. I'll have to comb my history to see if I can find it. :)
@@Samcraftcom If you just want a pick up a few to test with, there's always Amazon. Definitely not the cheapest, but could get you some quick samples to play with.
No doubt about it that is a neat little fiber laser. I have a Cloudray 50 watt that will engrave on a 11.5 x 11.5 inch area. I found out you can melt the heck out of slate so doing coasters I run the power way back and the speed way up. The laser rabbit hole is a lot of fun.
@@Samcraftcom I just got finished putting my logo and contact information on the back of 51 coasters in 22 minutes. I have a bunch to make for keepsakes for my 50 year high school reunion. I designed a graphic to put on the coasters and stainless steel tumblers.
Is the software compatible with Apple or just Windows only I have plenty of computers laying around so I'm not worried about it but it'll be nice to have it on my Mac.
Only for the small 7x7cm working area I'm forced to look elsewhere. I'm looking at ComMarker 20w with two Lens: 110*110mm 150*150mm working size! Do you have any thoughts on that? I wish someone could send you this laser for a review. - Informative and great content. Thank you Best Regards from Norway
ok got it 4watts? how does this compare to a 20/30 watt laser?. I need to mark parts. Mild steel, painted. I used a friends 30 w. to scribe a series of numbers 2 lines 3mm tall, did 120 parts in...maybe 2 sec each. i have 200 more parts to mark and want to have my own laser to do it.
The new xTool F1 is showing the most promise on accessories and wide functionality so far. Check out my newest videos on the channel to see it in action.
I just bought this but the software isn't showing up with dxf, I was wondering if you knew how to get that set up? At this point i am going to uninstall and reinstall it but any tips would be helpful. Thanks !
Talk about timing! I was JUST about to buy an Atomstack based on you other video when I caught this one less than 10 minutes later. Now I have food for thought. Trying to talk myself into the $400 price difference and how that will pan out over time.
This link will get you 10% off any purchase from SainSmart (it's my referral link). 423sainsmartcom.refr.cc/samcraft I would say that yes, this machine is worth $400 more. The z-height alone is a great difference. But also the software experience is so much better, too. I'm planning a head-to-head comparison video between this laser and the Atomstack M4 very soon.
Hey Sam, Great Review as always! One question... have you, by any chance, tried to engrave with this new laser on Polycarbonate or Nylon. I manufacture OEM Safety Glasses for some of the biggest brands and sometimes they need a quick, logo'd, pair of eyewear as a sample. I have been looking for a solution. Thanks so much in advance!
@samcraft I was thinking about laserengraving sunglasses. So the glasses themselfs, make custom logos etc. Do you think im better off with this machine or should I buy a Xtool F1?
I would buy the xTool F1. The laser head itself is very similar between the two, but the xTool accessories are what really set it apart. Check out my channel's newest videos to see the F1 in action.
Great job Sam! I am interested to get one Z5-1 but before I want to be sure to be able to use TCP control mark on the BslApp 5.2.6. From the demo BslApp I saw the functionality in the menu "Advanced Application(Y)" and then in the "TCP control mark". But I can not read the html help about "Packet Format Description" and expecially the 2.14 "Set the position, text content, and position of the specified graph". Can you said us if this funcionality is working with the Z5-1, please Best
They both essentially have the same laser capabilities, but this laser is much better than the Atomstack M4. I use this laser daily for my business. The only complaint I have with it is the small 70mm x 70mm working size. Otherwise it's great!
I can't decide what to get. Will you be reviewing the new xtool f1 in the near future?. I don't know if i should just save up for a Real 20w fibre jbt laser because there not really that much more expensive
I don't have plans to review the xTool F1 yet. I do have a cheaper fiber laser review coming up soon-ish... the ComMarker B4. I received it in my workshop about a week ago and am learning and using it now. The working size limitations for these smaller 1064nm units are their biggest drawbacks.
I’d love one of these to use to engrave the circuit numbers on the outlet plates in my shop, but the price is a little much just to satisfy my finicky, organized self.😊
Can you engrave a few wrenches and tools and post in new video? I really would love to see some hand tools such as wrench, hammer, etc engraved real time. Very interested in this machine currently listed $500 off for this one purpose for work. Been following you for many years now, great site! Love your videos.
Does it have a mobile app for it. Like laserpecker fibre machine. If this have a app like laserpecker app. This would be perfect. Because its cheaper. Than laserpecker
Interesting machine so much so that I've ordered one. I wonder how much power it will draw, maybe it could be used on an inverter at markets etc if shielded. adequately. I will probably review it on my channel at some point..
You're going to like it! I use it daily in my workshop for my small business. I'm sure the power draw is reasonable too. I've run my Ortur gantry diode and tablet from a small battery pack before.
Got excited then saw the price, yikes! Maybe you need to do a best bang for the buck laser video or explainer on what drives cost of different laser types.
The price is steep when you compare them to other diode lasers, but nothing compared to other lasers that most engraving businesses are using... especially those of the fiber class (this is not a true fiber laser though).
They're part of signed agreement and contract partnerships for video production work on my channel. I do my best to be honest in showing the good & bad on every machine -- just as I would had I purchased them myself. Only the machines or companies I would consider buying on my own are ones I partner with -- I'm not going to make content for a product I myself would not consider buying.
Sam, I don’t doubt your candor and honesty in this review, or any others. But you should be completely transparent and mention the contract/agreement in your review and the video’s description. Keep up the great work.
Sam, I need help! I ordered a z5-1 but it won’t connect to my computer! There is “no driver” even though I ran the driver install. Did anything like this happen for you?
@@martinbermudez2398 I had to get a windows computer to run it. It apparently has to do with the processor in the Mac. It’s janky and the program is awful. I just got an xtool F1 and it is way easier.
So, yet another 1064nm laser advertised as a "fiber" laser which is not. It is probably a DPSS laser, and similar to, if not the same as, Atomstack M4 and Enjoywood M4. The base and tower distinguish this machine, and also the shields, assuming the orange acrylic actually shield at 1064nm, which I'm a little wary of. It would be cool to see this machine lasering onto shield to assess the protection. Very interesting that the SeaCAD version is better.
SAM LOOK UP LASER PECKER L2 IT WILL SHOW ALL LASER THEY MAKE. GOOD FOR MAKING SIGNS IF SOME BODY ASK FOR IT ADDING TO YOUR INCOME. JUST A THOUGHT PRESTON
I have worked with prior models of the Laser Pecker and was not very impressed. Their terms of use with their app had some questionable areas. The machine was also very under powered.
Boy that would be nice but for 1400 dollars I don't think so. I do this stuff for a hobby. I cannot see how you can get a good return on these real expensive lasers unless you are really jamming on the sales world. Nice video on it though.
I just Ordered mine yesterday. Any tips on doing plastics the proper speed and power settings would be appreciated. Maybe some extra information on the software would be nice.
Hi Sam, would be keen to see how it goes engraving a copper clad circuit board.
Love your videos.
Workshop looks so nice.....organized and the decor is interesting and cool
Thank you so much 😊 But I assure you, behind the camera it's pure chaos! LOL
Great review, I picked up one of these. Do you mind sharing the settings on how you got the dark lettering on steel? I cant seem to get that to work.
Thanks for the great review. I just saw this channel and your first video got me hooked. Keep up the great work.
Welcome aboard!
How does this work with doing cups and round objects? Is there an optional? Cup roller.
I wish I'd have found you when I owned my business. You do awesome work - and I can imagine the cool products you could have engraved for me. Keep up the great work!
Wow, thank you!
Just a quick note - 70mm is 2.75 in not 3.5 so the engraved area is smaller than you mentioned. Still can do coasters and such but only a 2.75 inch image on the larger surface. 90mm is more like 3.5 inches. The spec sheet you show at (9:48 says 7cm); the 2.76" they show is only true if you go out to 4 decimal places 🙂
Can you use a roller with this
Can I download a copy of the software before buying it? I’m so used to using light firm, but it doesn’t look too bad can you?
Go over the alignment for small objects like that screwdriver again thanks .
How did you do the speed test?
Hey Sam. Thanks for this video. I bought one of these a week ago and love it so far. you CAN actually adjust the focusing lasers to line up with the cutting laser. Remove two screws from under the head near the lasers. Slide the plate with the LED off (careful of the LED wires, and there you will see the laser mounts with the set screws. I only loosened the inner ones to move them. The only small side effect if there is a little hazing from the lasers on the bed but its minimal. This is caused from the thickness of the cover plate but there is no interference from it. Just thought youd like to know this :) keep up the good work. Dave
Awesome, thanks Dave!
What about the software? still crap?
@@vrobert94 imo the software is fine. It's done everything I need it to. I don't see a need in spending $200 on Lightburn for galvos but it may benefit some
May the Lord bless and protect you and your family
Great video! Can you tell me how fast (how many seconds) he need to engrave some numbers on a house key?
Is there an affordable co2 galvo?
I see the holes in the base are threaded. What's the thread?
These are getting very useful but 70x70mm is just a little too small. 100x100 will do coasters and metal business cards. Will a different lens change to area?
Have you done and 2.5d/3d coins with it..
Bet money it's not just a leadscrew, but also one or 2 linear rails inside that channel, especially with how sturdy it is. And NOW you've got 2 Galvo's, and here I'm stuck with zero, I'm definitely jelly, LOL.
I'd also suggest getting some coin blanks for testing on these things, I'd be interested to see how the Atomstack and the Genmitsu etch on those, how deep they'll engrave, etc.
Very interesting idea on the coins! I'll have to see about trying some out. Another channel I follow recently did a video on them and their US-based source. I'll have to comb my history to see if I can find it. :)
@@Samcraftcom If you just want a pick up a few to test with, there's always Amazon. Definitely not the cheapest, but could get you some quick samples to play with.
No doubt about it that is a neat little fiber laser. I have a Cloudray 50 watt that will engrave on a 11.5 x 11.5 inch area. I found out you can melt the heck out of slate so doing coasters I run the power way back and the speed way up. The laser rabbit hole is a lot of fun.
Very cool! I'll have to look into Cloudray. These little guys are nice for their niche, but I need something bigger for my small business!
@@Samcraftcom I just got finished putting my logo and contact information on the back of 51 coasters in 22 minutes. I have a bunch to make for keepsakes for my 50 year high school reunion. I designed a graphic to put on the coasters and stainless steel tumblers.
How many watts?
Sam. I tried to engrave using this machine on metal, but it did not come through. Is there a specific setting I need to adjust?
me too. cant engrave on metal. im a newbie. still learning
Is the software compatible with Apple or just Windows only I have plenty of computers laying around so I'm not worried about it but it'll be nice to have it on my Mac.
Great job as usual, love watching your videos Sam.
Thanks so much!
Can you please provide a link to the grid file or picture? Thank you
What’s the main difference from this and the X-tool F1. I am looking to engrave dog tags and things like air pods case.
Only for the small 7x7cm working area I'm forced to look elsewhere.
I'm looking at ComMarker 20w with two Lens: 110*110mm 150*150mm working size!
Do you have any thoughts on that?
I wish someone could send you this laser for a review.
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Informative and great content. Thank you
Best Regards from Norway
I'm completely with you on the small working size. It's the biggest down side to this machine and is my #1 limitation with my business.
Can I do cups without a cup? Roller.
ok got it 4watts? how does this compare to a 20/30 watt laser?. I need to mark parts. Mild steel, painted. I used a friends 30 w. to scribe a series of numbers 2 lines 3mm tall, did 120 parts in...maybe 2 sec each. i have 200 more parts to mark and want to have my own laser to do it.
Great video, head to head comparison would you take this or the Atomstack M4?
This one is much better than the Atomstack, but the new xTool F1 is better than both of these... the technology is changing so fast!!
Do you have any recommendations on what is the frontrunner for galvo lasers right now? Can any of them use a rotary attachment?
The new xTool F1 is showing the most promise on accessories and wide functionality so far. Check out my newest videos on the channel to see it in action.
I just bought this but the software isn't showing up with dxf, I was wondering if you knew how to get that set up? At this point i am going to uninstall and reinstall it but any tips would be helpful. Thanks !
Does not work with a MAC?
How deep is this able to engrave aluminum (or steel for that matter). Hoping to get a decent depth, rather than just marking the surface.
Talk about timing! I was JUST about to buy an Atomstack based on you other video when I caught this one less than 10 minutes later. Now I have food for thought. Trying to talk myself into the $400 price difference and how that will pan out over time.
This link will get you 10% off any purchase from SainSmart (it's my referral link). 423sainsmartcom.refr.cc/samcraft I would say that yes, this machine is worth $400 more. The z-height alone is a great difference. But also the software experience is so much better, too. I'm planning a head-to-head comparison video between this laser and the Atomstack M4 very soon.
@@Samcraftcom Thanks. I was curious as to when it might be available for iOS. I'm a no-go until it is. RATS!
@@shannondefriese9598 the only lasers I have seen to be iOS compatible are only small hobby style ones and usually not the greatest.
Shannon, if you're still in the market for this, I have an extra one that I'm looking to offload.
Great review Sam. Thanks
Hey Sam, Great Review as always! One question... have you, by any chance, tried to engrave with this new laser on Polycarbonate or Nylon. I manufacture OEM Safety Glasses for some of the biggest brands and sometimes they need a quick, logo'd, pair of eyewear as a sample. I have been looking for a solution. Thanks so much in advance!
Would you happen to be interested in one of these still? I have an extra one.
@samcraft I was thinking about laserengraving sunglasses. So the glasses themselfs, make custom logos etc. Do you think im better off with this machine or should I buy a Xtool F1?
I would buy the xTool F1. The laser head itself is very similar between the two, but the xTool accessories are what really set it apart. Check out my channel's newest videos to see the F1 in action.
@@Samcraftcom thank you so much for replying! Def will look into it then.
Great job Sam!
I am interested to get one Z5-1 but before I want to be sure to be able to use TCP control mark on the BslApp 5.2.6.
From the demo BslApp I saw the functionality in the menu "Advanced Application(Y)" and then in the "TCP control mark".
But I can not read the html help about "Packet Format Description" and expecially the 2.14 "Set the position, text content, and position of the specified graph".
Can you said us if this funcionality is working with the Z5-1, please
Best
Thanks Sam!
Sam, how do you think this compares to the atom stack M4? Which one is better for engraving on silver and gold?
They both essentially have the same laser capabilities, but this laser is much better than the Atomstack M4. I use this laser daily for my business. The only complaint I have with it is the small 70mm x 70mm working size. Otherwise it's great!
Thank you for the info! Can this laser cut as well? How does it compare to the laserpecker 3?
I can't decide what to get. Will you be reviewing the new xtool f1 in the near future?. I don't know if i should just save up for a Real 20w fibre jbt laser because there not really that much more expensive
I don't have plans to review the xTool F1 yet. I do have a cheaper fiber laser review coming up soon-ish... the ComMarker B4. I received it in my workshop about a week ago and am learning and using it now. The working size limitations for these smaller 1064nm units are their biggest drawbacks.
Chris, if you're still considering the Z5-1, I have one new in the box that I won't be using due to a business change.
@@SM_525 Hi, How much was you looking for? Only problem is I'm in the uk
I’d love one of these to use to engrave the circuit numbers on the outlet plates in my shop, but the price is a little much just to satisfy my finicky, organized self.😊
I could help you out with the outlet engravings if you like? Shoot me an email if you're interested: sam @ sam-craft . com :)
Can you engrave a few wrenches and tools and post in new video? I really would love to see some hand tools such as wrench, hammer, etc engraved real time. Very interested in this machine currently listed $500 off for this one purpose for work. Been following you for many years now, great site! Love your videos.
Does it have a mobile app for it. Like laserpecker fibre machine. If this have a app like laserpecker app. This would be perfect. Because its cheaper. Than laserpecker
Interesting machine so much so that I've ordered one. I wonder how much power it will draw, maybe it could be used on an inverter at markets etc if shielded. adequately. I will probably review it on my channel at some point..
You're going to like it! I use it daily in my workshop for my small business. I'm sure the power draw is reasonable too. I've run my Ortur gantry diode and tablet from a small battery pack before.
Which one would you go for Sam? Genmitsu or Atomstack M4?
Hands down, the Genmitsu Z5-1
Engrave the Tractor with the SAMCRAFT logo!!! :)
How dare you!! *GASP* I feel light headed now... LOLOL
Got excited then saw the price, yikes! Maybe you need to do a best bang for the buck laser video or explainer on what drives cost of different laser types.
The price is steep when you compare them to other diode lasers, but nothing compared to other lasers that most engraving businesses are using... especially those of the fiber class (this is not a true fiber laser though).
do you buy all these lasers? or are they mailed to you for a review?
Thanks
They're part of signed agreement and contract partnerships for video production work on my channel. I do my best to be honest in showing the good & bad on every machine -- just as I would had I purchased them myself. Only the machines or companies I would consider buying on my own are ones I partner with -- I'm not going to make content for a product I myself would not consider buying.
Sam, I don’t doubt your candor and honesty in this review, or any others. But you should be completely transparent and mention the contract/agreement in your review and the video’s description. Keep up the great work.
Sam, I need help! I ordered a z5-1 but it won’t connect to my computer! There is “no driver” even though I ran the driver install.
Did anything like this happen for you?
Having same issue was you able to get around this issue pls and thx
@@martinbermudez2398 I had to get a windows computer to run it.
It apparently has to do with the processor in the Mac.
It’s janky and the program is awful.
I just got an xtool F1 and it is way easier.
So, yet another 1064nm laser advertised as a "fiber" laser which is not. It is probably a DPSS laser, and similar to, if not the same as, Atomstack M4 and Enjoywood M4. The base and tower distinguish this machine, and also the shields, assuming the orange acrylic actually shield at 1064nm, which I'm a little wary of. It would be cool to see this machine lasering onto shield to assess the protection. Very interesting that the SeaCAD version is better.
A dpss is a better laser than fiber. Far more versatile.
No lightburn compatibility? That's a big bummer! Lightburn is basically the holy grail of all laser software.
Awesome video 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
Thanks 👍
No lightburn😬 , 70mmx70mm 😵
😃👍Danke für das Video
The 70mm engraving area is NOT “roughly 3 1/2”…not even 3 inches…not even in the U.S.
Well, yesr!!!🎉✌️💖🙏🇺🇲
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SAM LOOK UP LASER PECKER L2 IT WILL SHOW ALL LASER THEY MAKE. GOOD FOR MAKING SIGNS IF SOME BODY ASK FOR IT ADDING TO YOUR INCOME. JUST A THOUGHT PRESTON
I have worked with prior models of the Laser Pecker and was not very impressed. Their terms of use with their app had some questionable areas. The machine was also very under powered.
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Boy that would be nice but for 1400 dollars I don't think so. I do this stuff for a hobby. I cannot see how you can get a good return on these real expensive lasers unless you are really jamming on the sales world. Nice video on it though.
Can't do tiles, shame