Oil Burner Repair .. Explained!!
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- Successful Oil Burner Repair and Explained!! too on this old Riello oil Burner. I had 3 non working incomplete old burners and made 1 working burner from the bits of all 3. No waste oil in this one but a cheap / free repair with parts I had laying around. These Riello RBD burners are very reliable usually but some are used in outside cabin pak enclosures that can let the bad winter weather get to them. Lots of information in this video on how to get it all going again. Cheers Gerry
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Hello Gerry. Thank you for taking the time and trouble to explain this. Obviously a man who knows his stuff inside out with no need for a ckeck sheet, just a competent engineer. It really helps when someone shows you the practical side as opposed to words and diagrams. I now know what a flame from a working burner looks like!
Brilliant, straightforward video, Jerry. Just what I was looking for. I'm an engineer but not ever looked at an oil boiler burner unit. Now I know the principles, of what does what, and where it all fits. Fantastic Mister! Now... to find out WHY has my own burner has started making "screeching" noises?? A failed bearing in the Pump? A foreign object that has wormed its way past the oil filter? All shall be revealed. And a Big Thank You from a very Windy and Wet Wiltshire, England.
Great vid Gerry! You love tinkering...
Thanks Garden Angel 👍👍
Fantastic demonstration!
Thank you, I learnt a lot from this video!
Well done Gerry. Cheers!
Doc
Hi Martin. I'm installing the heating and hot water on the cheap. Burner and boiler free and I always have miles of pipe and lots of fittings so hard to put a price on but Cheap 🤣 Thanks Doc for taking the time to comment Cheers Gerry
Watching this for schooling here in the united states. Very informative! Great video, thumbs up!
another top vid from gerry
Thanks Dave 👍👍
First of all...Hi from North West Missouri, USA. Love your channel Gerry. Very informative and helpful. I've been tinkering with the idea of a waste oil burner for my garage. Just haven't locked in on what I want for sure yet. But, you're giving me some great ideas on what direction to go. Thanks.
Hi Sam. I get many Subscribers and comments from all over the States and all over the world for that matter. I don't know much about Missouri yet other than Jefferson is the capital and I can point to it on a blank map Yay! Really appreciate the comment Cheers Gerry 👍
Hello Gerry
Good to see you. Havnt seen a video for a while.
I'm still on the mend from my paramotor accident. Walking now and still using my wheel chair when the legs get tired.
I sold my paramotor and have decided to give up the sport :(
I did buy a 4 wheeler and am enjoying it immensely. Good to get out and about after a year and a half.
Hope all is well on your side of the pond. All the best...be well....
Hi Joey. Great to hear from you and that you are at least on the mend. Jesus you have been through it and the paramotor thing in spite of all the ads and videos saying how safe it is can be just the opposite and very unforgiving. I am delighted that you can get out now and can walk. Sadly I have friends from the paragliding community that can't walk and I was nearly there too. There are lots of other sports that are safer and as much fun and I am glad that you can have the craic on your 4 wheeler. Good on you mate and well done getting this far. Must have been really hard. Pity we don't live close I would love to get you a pint and talk 😃 Good luck from a very cold Emerald Isle Cheers Gerry 👍👍
Love your videos, sir ... I prefer to repair than replace Happy holidays
Great video
Thanks.... Nice job
enjoyed that Gerry
That was very interesting
Wishing I had one for my little workshop, here in the US. I'm in the northwest, where it gets mighty cold in the winter.
Hi Stanley. These burners are great and retail here in Europe for about 300 but there are many available second hand. I am connecting this up at the moment so more to come on underfloor heating, hot water etc. If I said that its a damp and cold day here at 7°C / 44.6°F
you would laugh. 😜Thanks for commenting Cheers Gerry 👍
That's still motorcycle weather ware im from lol. Northeast USA here to. Pennsylvania/new york border. Love the diy oil burner stuff. Keep it up!
Thanks Gerry I have the same floor heat in my shop. Have you ever tried to get one to run on waste oil. I built a drip feed but would be nice to have auto start t-stat controls
Hi it would be great if you could show the oil pump inside and the repair if possible.
very helpful. handy to know how to swap out a burner pump. its can be very expensive to pay someone to do it.
Yes but dont forget you need a fuel pump gauge to set the pressure and a combustion analyser to set it up after
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I'm jealous! You have TWO extensions and the manifold with the pressure gauge! I only have the little nut covering the pressure port. Oh for a bleed screw!
Same here
That is a great idea
Thanks Fixing it Blind. Cheers Gerry 👍
Any chance of doing a video on changing a oil burner bearing? Keep up the good work 👍
I normally use a multimeter to test all components
NICE
Thanks Joe. Cheers Gerry 👍👍
I want to see a waste oil burner heating water in a boiler type system that is producing steam that runs a generator of some sort. IE Using waste oil to produce electricity to charge a battery bank that runs a home. :)
The vent is actually located on the aluminium cover of the pump
I love your videos, they've made learning and fixing my own ancient Oil Burner almost fun!
Still can't stop the booming start though!
I followed your links for parts/tools on another thread, but unable to justify the 100£ for pressure gauge.
I don't suppose you are able to recommend a 'budget' version. No worries if not, thanks for all these videos regardless
Keep up the great work
Bob
Hi Bob. You can get a gauge for just a few euro You need one with up to 20 bar and big enough to see. A garage air gauge will do. An extension vent like in the video Riello sell these. Just add a couple of copper or aluminium washers and you have a way of reading the pressure for cheap. Don't tighten the gauge until all the air comes out of it's thread and you will have vented the line and pump. Hope this helps Cheers Gerry 👍
@@GerrysDiy Blimey Gerry, you are absolutely awesome.
@@GerrysDiy Gerry, is there anyway that the oil could be starting before the ignition?
My G5bf, in an even older boiler, starts with loud whooomph - always!
I cannot hear the clicking of the electrodes before it starts like on all these demo videos - at all.
I hear the pump, the fan, then verrrwhooophhh and vibrates the outbuilding.
It really does sound like there's fuel build up before ignition.
It's not explosive though!
I have tried your other suggestions
I have increased and decreased the air until outside wall black with smoke debris
Thanks Gerry I was wondering if you ever tried getting one to work on waste oil
Great vid. There are 3 wires coming out of burner to bench test how do you wire it to supply assuming only 2 wires are used. Cheers
Hi Gerry, good videos. but as its a tutorial, would like to see you check power to coil and valve lift before changing pump.
Fair point but I guess Gerry proved the coil was OK since it worked on the replacement oil pump.
hello, Great video I have a Nuway nol 5 burner i changed the pump filters nozzle i got a new Honeywell 830 controller but the solenoid is not receiving messages to electrify the solenoid What would you think is the problem? thanks
Gerry could you show me how to connect the new handy oil system as im getting rid of tank and i bought the handy oil.
Good stuff ,question on oil pump plate u see arrows + and - what's that's for maybe stupid question
Good Evening. If there is smoke in the diffuser what is the cause? 1 the air in the diffuser is less and the turbulence takes place near it. 2 the burner injector is too deep; When it mentions 4 or 5 mm depth does it depend on the angle of the injector or is it the limits?
thanks..
my burner is olymp 80 DV
Hi Gerry
I have a boiler Gerkros and I bought it second hand .
The burner I took out of it was 27 year old and I put a new one in to it.
Riello 40 gr3
Problem I have now is thick black smoke coming out of boiler flue.
I have adjusted the air flow all tru its range and it makes no difference.
I can’t clean boiler inside as everything is rusted.
Burner has no smoke off it when it’s running outside the boiler .
Burner gets black with soot after a few hours use .
Thanks for any help
Hey Gerry, I love your waste oil burner videos, do you have any interest in converting these kero burners to waste oil ? I've had a quick browse through your channel and couldn't spot any. I'd be massively interested if you do.
Gerry, have you figured out a way to make this type of burner run waste oil or waste vegetable oil?
Do you have a video where you talk about exhaust, fumes and poisonous gas from oil burning? Also into the workshop, if you know what i mean. Thanks
Well Gerry ive a new pump installed but still cant get any oil from the high pressure 4mm pipe heading to nozzle.i took it out like u did there and still no flow it could be solenoid i think?
Why didn't you test the resistance of the solenoid windings? If the coil had failed you would have changed the coil first, before changing the pump.
Hello Gerry I have grant vortex 15-26 I have to press the reset button to get the fan to fire up all the time any help would be appreciated mickee
Cover the blast tube to stop any light triggering the cell
Can you suggest a channel to talk about the same topic to learn from??
Thanks for advance
@saadhassan2244 I can't name any channel that would be specific to this or these faults, but can answer any questions to the best of knowledge
Hey Gerry have you ever gotten one of these fuel oil burners to burn waste oil? If so howd you do it
Would be interesting to see
Hi Racer 85 That's a yes no answer. It wont work by pumping the waste oil with this pump and the nozzle is not suited either BUT you can add compressed air with a syphon Nozzle like this one amzn.to/37vRnG4 I plan on doing a build in a few weeks once I get time. I did have some success a few years ago but didn't mess with it since. The plan today is to get this burner working in the boiler and heating the water and the underfloor heating next door. More on that soon. Thanks for commenting Much appreciated Cheers Gerry
I was going to ask the same question. Interesting I must look into it. The best I personally managed was a 70/30 mix of kero/oil on the standard jet. It ran(badly) but ran
@@terryb9851 Did you try pre-heating it (the fuel/oil)? Still probably won’t work great, just curious how much it would help.
@@god910 no not at the time, just mixed it up and ran it as normal. I've ordered a nozzle in the link Gerry provided so gonna have a play over the Christmas holidays with a pre heater and a few other ideas I have
Top video as always.
By using the original solenoid with the second pump you've proved the solenoid works but before replacing the oil pump could you have checked the solenoid was working or swapped it out? ie could the solenoid not lifting the pin have caused oil to not be pumped?
Just asking for anyone who doesn't have a spare oil pump to hand 😏
How would you test the solenoid?
I have an oil burner that is working fine on the bench when I fit it to the boiler it keeps cycling on and off
Hi Gerry,
Cool video. I never worked on an oil burner so it was also educational. I was wondering, if the solenoid was bad, could that have prevented the oil pump from running (what does the solenoid do)? Also, just before it fired, it looked like fog in the front. Was that a mist of oil spraying out? Thanks for the video!
-mike
Hi Mike. The solenoid magnetically opens a valve to allow the pressure to go through the nozzle. You can check them for resistance and you can put a screwdriver inside the ring and feel the screwdriver stick to the magnet when the power is on. I have 5 broken pumps here at the moment so I might do a video on repair. The fog was unburnt fuel because the electrodes weren't set yet and the nozzle was the wrong one and just for getting it going. In the next video I will be hooking it into and under floor heating system that I installed next door but powered from the shed. Thanks for commenting Mike Cheers Gerry 👍
Hello thanks for the great video but i didnt understand something
What do you mean by oil like its diesel or kerosene?
Thx .
Kerosene, perhaps red coloured as it's a requirement in Ireland?
Hi Gerry great vids, just wondering if you have any experience with fixing a waste oil burner called a Skyburner
as my one is currently giving bother ,thanks in advance
Hi Lorraine. Sorry I have not seen them yet.
Nice video as always. Given the amount of knowledge you have on burners. Why not convert these fuel burners to waste oil. Obviously you have created and shown us all how simple you waste burners are. Is it just creating more hassle?
Hi Terry. I will have some time in a few weeks to get into it. Have all the parts in the shed now 😃 Thanks for commenting Cheers Gerry 👍
A question. We test the burner placed ον the boiler, which continuously pours oil without having any sparks. Is there any chance after many tests when a spark appears an explosion occurs inside the boiler?
Yes, you need to purge(ventilate) for a while or remove the oil from the furnace after every start failure.
Greetings from UK. Love your videos. My Riello burner is making a noise. Sounds like dry bearing on the motor. Quitens down after a few minutes. I am planning on replacing the motor. I have got the part no. from Riello. Do you have a video on this? Is it just a straightforward strip and replace job?
Hi Seamus. Sorry I don't have a video on changing the motor or the bearing. Sometimes the pump bearing can do the screeching. You can disconnect the pump and run the motor to make sure. Easy enough to change the motor. Good luck with your project Cheers Gerry 👍
@@GerrysDiy Thanks Gerry. I will give it a go. Looks fairly straightforward
Hi Gerry, still around lurking this way, good to see another video from you.
A question please, in a oil burner stove is there an optimal height for the fuel tank to be at, and distance from the stove to be located
I want to put the fuel tank just on the outside of my room (we don't get snow in winter)
about 6ish feet from stove
Tony from Western Australia 🇦🇺
How are ye Tony. Just a couple of feet above the burner but it you have a drip feed with an observation port then a couple of feet above that as well. If the oil is not too cold 0 degrees it will flow but as the temperature rises your fuel will flow more quickly and could make the fire too hot. I saw on the news the other day that parts of Australia got to 42 c. You could cook dinner on the car 🤣 Great to hear for you Cheers Gerry 👍
@@GerrysDiy hi Gerry I heard yesterday of a 47c temp, where I live about 100 km n/e of Perth Western Australia, I'm in a valley and we see 45c at least a couple of times each summer.
We had a 39c here about 8 days back but thankfully we mostly have had mid 20s
The scorching temps for now are mostly over east
In winter her the coldest I have seen is -9c at 3am mostly it gets down between - 1 and about 5c at night during winter where I thought of putting the oil tank was in a corner outside so it would get a bit of cold protection also a bit of thermal mass from the house. It will be nice to be warm next winter!
Tony
What makes burner fault?
Gerry, just came accross your channel, very good. I have a riello outside kerosene boiler. The problem I have is an electrical fault. When I turn on the boiler the fuse blows. There is power to the boiler. Do you think the control module is faulty? The are I live in has a lot of thunder and lightening.
Full power to the boiler but when I switch on the fuse blows in the boiler immediately
I changed the control unit, it had been damaged by moisture. All working now
I have a question for you. How would I go about building a waste oil burning stock tank heater? My Grandfather had one. I never saw it, only heard about it from my mother.
Hi Vicki I have hours of videos on making different types of waste oil heaters. These heaters can produce lots of heat and depending on the type of waste oil and where it's sourced the heat can be made for free too. Here's a link to one of my playlists ruclips.net/p/PLmQ5wJnkAIoJYDBgSOis9s1yDhcFdswtN Hope this helps Cheers Gerry 👍👍
Gerry this is the exact issue I'm having with mine. What was the reason for no fuel from high pressure outlet? Or what COULD be the reason?
The oil pump or the solenoid not lifting the the pin .
@@duber1439 A quick question for you ;-)... I accidentally removed the pressure adjuster from the pump looking for a bleed screw. There was a pin and spring behind it. Am I right in putting the spring in first and then the pin and the then adjuster?
Now the boiler doesn't work, all I have is fan and not spark or fuel... any ideas are much appreciated...
Nice VID Gerry, I have a Riello 40 the seal is gone on the hydraulic damper control, do you know if seal can be replaced or do I need get a new hydraulic unit, in Galway here, stay safe 👌
Hi Ray. Yes you can buy a seal and they are easy to change. When the ump comes on the pressure lifts the damper. When the seal goes it can leak alot of Kero or Diesel. Great to hear from Galway. Good luck with the repair Cheers Gerry 👍
Always thought the dampers were throw away parts. I have one i replaced recently lying about. Good to know.
Hi Gerry, I have a Riello burner( RBL RDB1 VCOM 26) it’s not starting properly and locks out. If I continually reset the lock out it will eventually start and run fine for an hour or two and lock out again. It sounds like the air purge on start up doesn’t run properly but after two or three resets it will start. The air setting is somewhere about 7 or 8 on the dial. Any thoughts appreciated.
Hi Mark. There are lots of variables but check your photocell is clean and that there is no soot in it's path to see the flame. If you have a way of checking pressure it should be about 8bar for Kero. Set the pressure of the burner to 8 and lower the air so that the flame is too yellow and then increase your air from there. It the unit is indoors then there are safety concerns so be careful. These riello high pressure pumps can get to 15bar or higher so playing with the pressure screw can dramatically change the burners ability to keep the flame attached and fuel rate. Best of luck with your unit Cheers Gerry
Thanks Gerry, il try that.
Hello What do you think, could one modify an ordinary oil burner to a waste oil burner?
Hi HP. It can be done but not with that pump and nozzle. The burner would need to be bit longer. I have all the bits here to make one work and will have a go at it in a few weeks when I get some time. Thanks for commenting Cheers Gerry 👍
What would cause one of these to smell strongly when on? I have one of these but it smells very bad of fumes then running ?
Needs servicing.. or door gaskets replacement...
As Vinny said - needs a service to set correct combustion - oil pressure/air/CO2/CO - with calibrated flue gas analyser etc.
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why did it light? would the photocell not have seen the garage light and wouldnt have fired?
Once made what do you do with it ?
Hi S JC. This particular burner will be making heat in a boiler to heat an underfloor heating system and hot water in the building next to my shed. Will be the star of the next video 😃 Cheers Gerry 👍
Just wanted to let you know
it is not wast oil burner , it is kerosene burner ?
Yes ehab radop;ogy these are just Kerosene burners for a domestic heating system. I do have waste oil burners that I make on this channel but not as sophisticated as these. Cheers Gerry👍
I think the flame is off
Yeah its easy when its not in a friggin aluminum box
Every time I see 1 thumbs down I think it must be an ex girlfriend.
Hi. On a video I did a few weeks ago there were 450 thumbs down. They all hate me 🤣 Great comment Cheers Gerry
@@GerrysDiy I found your channel while I was trying to figure out how I could burn vegetable oil in my small coal stove. It seems to work good through a 3/8 steel brake line with a needle valve. The line enters the stove through the stove pipe so it gets preheated. It works best if the veg is mixed with furnace oil/kerosene. The only problem is the bloody soot.