Still strongly feel fuze is a crutch pick and they can only deal damage if the bring 100 nades. Rarely do I see fuze win gunfights... Lifeline is still better than Newcastle. Other than that good list
@@m7slayer784 I would say 9 times out of 10 a good Newcastle will provide more support than a lifeline because Newcastle can provide a lot more protection than her and he can be a lot more aggressive than a lifeline only problem is that Newcastle can’t shoot and he can provide fast resets but he makes up for that in my opinion because he can provide safe resets and safes rez as long as he has a purple knockdown he can get away sometimes if he has a blue
Ain't NO WAY you put Rev in B tier. His ult is a guaranteed 1v1 win and his pounce is great for chasing enemies. Conduit didn't make Rev strong, she made him BROKEN, now he's not broken he's just strong
Eh. At the end of the day, it's a team based game. And rev does nothing for your team and 3v3 situations besides chasing people you weaken which other legends can do while also bringing something to the table. I've found as long as your team knows what they're doing and doesn't get separated and moves, fights, and works together, he's not much of a threat
I dont think crypto is bad. He's a-tier, but he takes more skill to use and that makes him look bad because legends like bloodhound take less skill to use.
Almost every game you can get level 3 shields before round 1 closes and then push a team for an easy wipe with emp, then just rotate with the beacon info
I think people are underestimating wattsons fences. A setup wattson will be impossible to penetrate. Her fences can cover so much room in an area it's not even funny. Like the alter could breach the wall the avoid some of the fences but get zapped by a bunch that have been setup through the entire area
@mohamedzahaan8681 crypto is the only real counter to wattson but you don't see many of them and the only way their going to use an alter crypto meta is if wattson becomes way to meta which camping probably won't be a meta thing
@theanimeshack1373 Actually agree. In this case Watson crypto being meta means you don't have a need for alter, since pushing building would be nonsensical. You would pick a character to help you rotate instead (likely Valk but maybe wraith as well)
My favorite legend has been Newcastle for a while now, anytime I try someone else I keep going back to him. His versatility to be defensive and also offensive in a variety of ways has so much team value.
Finally someone else that doesnt think this new champion is the best thing since bread. Shes so easy to counter everyone just isnt used to this new movement ability
Yeah I think people are catching on to that she’s just “decent” or situationally strong. Which is good for me because I love her kit as a methodical defensive player. So that means I can play her more
Not enough people use her Ult from what I've been seeing. Most randoms use her very selfishly. Yes, people are still getting her kit down but nevertheless, certain legends draw in certain mindsets. i think overtime she'll drop to B maybe even high C. Getting more predictable as each day passes. Is refreshing getting a new legend who isn't broken like conduit or rev reborn.
As a seer main I do agree on the buff part, it would really be nice to add the 10 dmg back, and the cancel heal and revive can go on the evo upgrades it would be a perfect balance, especially going up against conduit, lifeline, new castle, conduit, and other legends that involve healing or combat.
Personally as someone who does use seer a bit I would say bring back the slow it would give. Tbh I use seer kind of offensively and when I’m fighting someone that slow would be hella useful.
@@InZanelyOp true, what seer had back on release was way to much for just a new character. They made bro almost nothing now. Honestly if they want to buff him I say - widen tac just a bit ( by like 0.5 meters/ 1.6 ft ) - slow enemy on hit for 2 sec - 5 dmg upon hit - take away health scan but keep silence debuff - a change on how tac works ( functionally ): can switch between modes, going through walls or bouncing off walls ( like press q will activate it then deploy with the left mouse button or right mouse button will change how it works, r button for bounce, l button for wall pierce ) bounces off walls 2 times instead of going through walls, if it hits a wall on the 3 bounce or is at the end of its length creates a large dome of the micro drones ( think Deadlock ult from Val ) Also it shows a line on where the tac will go and bounce just to help Sry kind of long But honestly even this might be too much
@@blastburn150 yo actually that shit is very creative, clever if im honest. But it makes sense tho. I have some ideas but ik its too much or might be too little. The 5 dmg is what i’ve been saying to other people but i get no response back, but it is a good idea its not to much and not too little yk? And the wall bouncing, I never thought of that! I just do hope one day seer does get some attention he needs. Edit: and don’t worry about your sentences being too long, I like reading. 😁
Played apex quite a bit from season 6-14, but then randomly stopped. I’m finally getting back into it and have been watching your videos to get up to date with the current meta- as I was always in the loop back when I played. Anyway, ive always been a Wattson main and remember constantly seeing her at the bottom of tier lists- but remember her slowly making her way up just as I stopped playing. It’s crazy to come back now and see her in S tier!! Hopefully she’ll be just as fun to play for me as she was even when she wasn’t in the meta xD
i disagree with seer being d-tier, i think he's solidly b-tier. his passive is huge for gunfights because you can just pre-aim angles with the info it gives you, and his tac is pretty strong tbh. he just has an overall good kit and i just don't really see how he could be ranked any lower than b. just objectively looking at his kit, it's really solid.
I think the only reason why he is so low is because of how hard it is to hit the tac ( tbh it really isn’t just aim where you think enemy’s will be and it’s a 80/20 chance ) this is versus crypto and BLOODHOUND where you just chuck/ use the thing and you get info.
No way but "BLOODHOUND" is first pick of every pro player..This legend has done a magic.. meanwhile i am a revenant main but whenever i saw there is a bloodhound in enemy squad i literally get scared..
I'd say this list is more of his preference to which legends he likes to play with. Ash is super underrated. It's hard to third-party a good crypto. Ballistic provides way more support then Bangalore for fights. Unlimited ammo plus faster reloads not to mention being able to null your opponents fire? And your whole team gets it. Put ballistic with seer and say rev or ash and you know how to play the characters then it's hard to win.
I would put Crypto in A tier, he’s debatably the best if not 2nd best Recon legend. Drone scans for entire team, emp, grabbing banners/survey beacon scanning remotely.
mirage soo underrated holy shit no way is he last. I guarantee u still shoot his bamboozels and the ult will win u a fight everytime if u don’t suck(i’ve never played him💀)
It took awhile for Bangalore to climb to god tier??? She was literally always that good just severely slept on lol. It took pros playing her for people to realize she’s S tier lol. Even in the very early days of Apex I said bang and blood were a meta combo
@@TimProVision that’s a fair point and I can respect that. Getting caught/scanned in your own smoke can still hurt her in today’s meta. Ultimately I just feel like Bangalore always paired well with scan legends and feel like it took a lot of players a while to realize that. But at the end of the day (as you’ve said before) Apex does have a healthy dose of legends that can be viable in their own way
With Ballistic even if you're not in the fight tag a person and your teammate as long as they hit every shot they auto win that match of TTK. You tag a person your mate is pushing then go take another Opp so his mate fights 1's. He has two of these, not to mention his ult gives speed and reload to the team. He provides team with buffs and ttk priority all the while winning majority of his own Putting him below REV?! Rev is only good with his ult, his passive is subpar and his jump is outclassed by Vantage, Paths and Horizons tac.
@@jonesyxxiv it impossible to lose 1v1's with him. Bullet hit is 20 DMG, Overheat is 30 so that's 50 difference in shield aswell as TTK advantage. Ppl really be sleeping 😴
Your underestimate how good rampart can be in battle and is great with her cover build. Her mini gun has cleared many squads and trios easily especially in tough situations
Personally, I don’t think Wraith deserves to be an A tier legend like at all. She’s has a great potential while playing solo. Q for escapes and Ult for a faster movement/rotations/something like that. But the thing is, this game is not really about being a solo player. If you wanna relocate your team from one place to another, you may just pick valk/octane/pathfinder or just an evac tower. Small hit box is not enough for an A tier
Appreciate the video and like the list, but it would have been really helpful to see examples of what you were describing with abilities, rather than just gun fights. There were some bits, but it would have been better to see the specific abiities in action to showcase their benefits.
Definitly make more lists dude. Ranked list for sure and make this again mid way through the season, I’ll rewatch even if it basically the same thing over again
Seer main here: Though i disagree with him being ranked as low as he is, i absolutely agree he desporately needs either a rework or a major tweak or two.
honestly, rampart can keep up pretty well, it just requires a lot of micromanaging but if you do that it’s near impossible to get caught out, if we’re talking full potential then i’d argue A tier but for someone who just picks her up then i can agree with B even drop it down to C
I agree a good rampart is incredible. A bad one is absolutely useless more so than most legends if someone is bad. Her kit isn't as forgiving. It's literally all about setup and micromanagement like you said.
@@wyattstorm98 bro if they changed her reload perk to work for her entire team or just took it away and extended her passive to other weapon classes like ARs or shotguns she’d be insane
Alter just a delivery loot legend when you play vs her. If you see her tactical, just use shotgun and grab a kill. If you see her ult, just wait one minute and grab three kills. She so bad legend.
like the list, i’m bumping up rev to high A tier tho, and ik this probs goes for all legends, but if you have an amazing newcastle on your team w the right pieces, he’s without a doubt S tier
This is based on team viability in both ranked and pubs ( mentioned in another comment and should at least be in the description ) tbh octane should be in c but mirage should be in c but gets out beaten by a lifeline or Newcastle revive
Buff Ash Ult cooldown to Mad Maggie and Octane cool down time and she's a solid A tier. Her ult isn't one of the strongest so it wouldn't be broken to buff it. Ofc I'm bias as she was the first legend I solo Q'd to D2 with when she came out.
Honestly I don’t think the cooldown should be the change. I think the ultimate should be reworked or at least buff the range on this thing to have the same long range as say pathfinders zip line, that would make it a lot more viable and be a good rotation tool. When they changed paths zip to do that he became such a better legend, there is no reason why ash’s ult should only cover the horizontal range of revenants pounce, it’s an ultimate, the range should go farther…
Its nice that you put wattson in s Tier I changed last Season from rev Main to a wattson Main and this was my best decision. 😁 I think your ranking and your opinion is a 9/10 😊
@@TimProVision i mean yeh sure, but come on bro... Every legend shines in different aspects now. Im not bothered personally since i agree with most of your picks but I just dont understand why the consensus is that there needs to be a bad tier in every video. The legends are really balanced
@@je36youtube some legends are just more equal then others its like if everyone is broken being balanced means being bad when there are horizon bloodhound conduit etc. ballistic is just bad it might be balanced but its still trash
@@dogukanckr3618 im sorry but once again ballistic and mirage have their areas where they are really good and i wouldnt consider them bad at all. You might just be bad with them
I will say this ballistic does not deserve an A tier or s tier which we can almost all agree on. But I would pit him on a solid B tier. He's an easy to use legend and (In my opinion) is viable in ranked as long as you put the right legend combos (like ballistic rev combining both ults. Ballistic with faster reload and a small speed boost with revs bubble ult which could be a great tanking strat).
Seer slander is insane. Had a teammate with me for two games in a row where we ran Bangalore, Seer and Vantage and putting enemies in the smoke and being able to see their footsteps made Seer a crucial part to winning two times games ina row.
bro, my squad and i went up against an alter and we won? we got trapped, she placed a portal in the ground under a building and then it closed while my team and i were down there. we were down there as one of the last surviving squads but then the ring got us. absolutely ludicrous Alter shenanigans
In my opinion as an Mirage player they need to had to her kit the option to being able to change you for one of their decoys. Like Loki on Marvel Rivals
@@TimProVision the best would be buff and push all legends below a tier to A and then tweak a little the s one to make them A, but its ea and we know they only care bout money so it will never happen
it is interesting to see your opinion on certain characters compared to how I see them (being a filthy casual) Loba to me seemed like such a redundant pick outside of the fact that she's a support because in the way I see it, you can just know what location loot spawns and check every one since areas are generally not that large. (unless we're talking broken moon's wide ass size) Vantage was a pretty fun pick for me for some time because she was basically a "jack of all trades" legend, having intel gathering with her passive and survey beacons, movement with her tactical, and damage with her ult. but at the cost of being slightly worse in every department than other legends and lastly, seeing ballistic be ranked so low because he doesn't provide the things other legends do is pretty amusing considering his smart bullet can just negate the ability from your opponent to fight back and that's not even considering his ultimate that makes himself and his entire team better at shooting (I understand why you'd rank him that low but it goes to show how strong other legends are when such a substantial buff to yourself and de-buff to the enemy just won't cut it in higher levels of play)
Season 16 seer was the best legend in my opinion. You could use his ult for many things and a good one was knowing if you can revive your teammates. His tactical could cancel heals and revives which made him super strong for 3v1s or just in general. Seer is now just a fragment of what he used to be. I hope Alex adds his ability to cancel heals and revives back and maybe some other things.
Absolutely alter is overhyped just like loba was when people thought teleporting was broken. You're just not used to it. Bang ult is S tier final circle and pushing or defense. Her entire kit has multiple uses that aren't too skill reliant just requires a bit of game sense and character knowledge. Alter requires some serious big brain thinking just to make a 25 second cooldown ability feel broken which once everyone realizes how to play against her she won't be as good. Plus there's a bug rn where she instantly goes through the portal without phasing and has her weapons ready faster than intended. She will be a great secondary fragger no doubt but she will have her place in the meta eventually and everyone will come to their senses. I haven't had a game yet, ranked or pubs, where she was like a huge threat. You can hear the portal with good audio, you know she's either coming through, or she's not. If you think she's about to come through play a good position with cover if you're able to and she just positioned herself inside with you and your team. Honestly if them pushing was the difference between you guys winning or losing the fight, you lost already.
@@jozeferickson85 Bangalore is locked in S tier permanently. Even if they would remove her perks, passive and ult ENTIRELY without replacements, even if tactical would have a minute CD with one charge, she would still be S tier character. Because smoke is the most essential tactical in the entire game. It's the best tac in the game with no close second. Because it's a SMOKE GRENADE in heavy team info reliant game. Person at Respawn that thought "We should give smoke to only one character in the game and not provide any other sources of this insanely powerful effect" is a moron who must not balance any other game in his lifetime. Just imagine what would happen in CS if only one person in the entire team could get smoke, this person would be the most valuable player every single round. Same with Apex, just to a bit lesser extent
My problem with alter is that i kinda dont know what is she supposed to be. Its just like yeah u can grab from death boxes, breach building and teleport back after 2,5 years. She does entrying,supporting and anchoring at 50% and its not really that good
Crypto is easily the best recon and its not even close, his passive info is leagues beyond bloodhound since he has a constant safety net of knowing when teams are within 200m
He also has the fastest Evo farming in the game able to hit multiple beacons while being completely safe which is vital on broken moon with how spread out harvesters are
Why does everyone think that gibby is mid because of maggy? Yeah she's fast with shotguns and counters the bubble, but he still has a bunch of health, and his ult is still good. Also, you said that Fuse was A tier even though his entire kit is countered by wattson.
He's too unforgiving, bad bubble will lose you the game, bad ult will make you die to third party plus it has a 5 year cooldown so you have to be extremely selective with it, Newcastle and caustic are both much better if you're going to pick a fortified legend
@@MC-ns8gb i think you're thinking of the old ult. plus, everyone likes bang and her ult actually has a longer cooldown. Plus, a good gibby rarely does bad bubbles, and it's worth it to try because a good bubble is really good
Rip time cheers for Wattson comp winning another LAN proving how strong, viable and will go down as one of the best comp legends/characters and also for the list loved it! ⚡️💙🌬
We need a classic playlist. No shields or helmets on drop, wingman having 12 rounds in the mag with a purple heavy mag, kraber and mastiff only in care package, and lifeline shield when reviving. No damage counters. Quality! Classic kings canyon. Where legends were made. Not this Mickey Mouse crap we got everyone gets participation shields we got now.
Weird choice with mirage given every person including people in ranked are slotting mirage a bit higher this time. His decoys still make a lot of noise that confuses experienced players
I've been running cat this season in ranked and she's been decent so far but there's more fuses and Maggie's running around which can be a pain😅. I like her wall for cover and rotations but I'm wanting to see if there's someone better for ranked, I can play? I like being the defense player on the team, or someone that has an ability to help end game. I've been running cat, caustic, and blood the past couple seasons but again, not sure which direction to go or stick with.
Im gonna be really annoyed if they nerf alter. Not only is she not too powerful but shes fun asf to play. Havent had this much fun with a new legend in a long time.
They VERY carefully balanced her. They even said in forum discussions they spent extra time balancing her because they knew she could be too strong with the theme. I don’t see any part of her needing a nerf.
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I began maining crypto and got several wins with him. Highly undrated
Still strongly feel fuze is a crutch pick and they can only deal damage if the bring 100 nades. Rarely do I see fuze win gunfights... Lifeline is still better than Newcastle. Other than that good list
@@m7slayer784 I would say 9 times out of 10 a good Newcastle will provide more support than a lifeline because Newcastle can provide a lot more protection than her and he can be a lot more aggressive than a lifeline only problem is that Newcastle can’t shoot and he can provide fast resets but he makes up for that in my opinion because he can provide safe resets and safes rez as long as he has a purple knockdown he can get away sometimes if he has a blue
@@noot4041 I've yet to see a good new castle in game. But if you insist...
Revvy-Boi = 100%
Ain't NO WAY you put Rev in B tier. His ult is a guaranteed 1v1 win and his pounce is great for chasing enemies. Conduit didn't make Rev strong, she made him BROKEN, now he's not broken he's just strong
So true dude
Yeah that was a horrible take rev is A tier minimum for sure
Eh. At the end of the day, it's a team based game. And rev does nothing for your team and 3v3 situations besides chasing people you weaken which other legends can do while also bringing something to the table. I've found as long as your team knows what they're doing and doesn't get separated and moves, fights, and works together, he's not much of a threat
Team game, Rev does nothing for the team really.
Bad players use Revenant as a crutch and still melt them every time lol
Stopped playing around season 11 from burnout. Came back for this season and absolutely love the changes. Primarily to the shield system and crafting.
That change happened last season
@@romanrules007 and?
@@romanrules007ok? The guy said he stopped playing season 11 and just came back.
@@romanrules007 so what?
@@kamrenwilliams2103 why is everyone so pressed, I was just educating the guy 😭
mirage has been pretty good lately, especially with the fine control of clones and the chaos of his ult
Nah
Enjoying mirage alot getting weird revives off and bamboozles
Tbh Mirage is sooo underrated especially in pubs or solos. OMG he's so annoying especially a good mirage who will wait for you to shoot a decoy..
I hope he gets a nerf
I dont think crypto is bad. He's a-tier, but he takes more skill to use and that makes him look bad because legends like bloodhound take less skill to use.
Literally anyone who thinks crypto isn't top 5 just doesn't know how to play him
Almost every game you can get level 3 shields before round 1 closes and then push a team for an easy wipe with emp, then just rotate with the beacon info
the thing with crypto you need to be really good or you need a premade
I love to just leave my drone behind me and potentially emp any 3rd parties i scan
I think people are underestimating wattsons fences. A setup wattson will be impossible to penetrate. Her fences can cover so much room in an area it's not even funny. Like the alter could breach the wall the avoid some of the fences but get zapped by a bunch that have been setup through the entire area
alter tp
Crypto Ultimate and the whole setup in kaboom
@mohamedzahaan8681 crypto is the only real counter to wattson but you don't see many of them and the only way their going to use an alter crypto meta is if wattson becomes way to meta which camping probably won't be a meta thing
@@mohamedzahaan8681crypto the legend with one of the lowest pick rates a d is one of the most situational recon in the game yep ur bronze
@theanimeshack1373 Actually agree. In this case Watson crypto being meta means you don't have a need for alter, since pushing building would be nonsensical. You would pick a character to help you rotate instead (likely Valk but maybe wraith as well)
Ash is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo slept on
Tac + arc star
Using ashes tactical when someone follows u up a zipline is broken
@@prizma9022that’s so situational
Ash op ion care
I wish Ash OP. She needs a broken season like every other legend has had besides maybe two
My favorite legend has been Newcastle for a while now, anytime I try someone else I keep going back to him. His versatility to be defensive and also offensive in a variety of ways has so much team value.
Finally someone else that doesnt think this new champion is the best thing since bread. Shes so easy to counter everyone just isnt used to this new movement ability
Yeah I think people are catching on to that she’s just “decent” or situationally strong. Which is good for me because I love her kit as a methodical defensive player. So that means I can play her more
Not enough people use her Ult from what I've been seeing. Most randoms use her very selfishly. Yes, people are still getting her kit down but nevertheless, certain legends draw in certain mindsets. i think overtime she'll drop to B maybe even high C. Getting more predictable as each day passes. Is refreshing getting a new legend who isn't broken like conduit or rev reborn.
Tbh every legends is S tier in some moments and D in others, so it depends
But some legends have more s tier moments than others
Do you realize how dum dum you sound rn 🧸
Downloading Apex after 3-4 years off and mained Watson. Waiting for her to show up and very pleased to not see anything before S tier
As a seer main I do agree on the buff part, it would really be nice to add the 10 dmg back, and the cancel heal and revive can go on the evo upgrades it would be a perfect balance, especially going up against conduit, lifeline, new castle, conduit, and other legends that involve healing or combat.
And btw conduit needs a nerf for sure, when playing solos it is an unfair fight going against her.
Personally as someone who does use seer a bit I would say bring back the slow it would give. Tbh I use seer kind of offensively and when I’m fighting someone that slow would be hella useful.
@@blastburn150 yes that too but we should think about what is to much or not. Yk what I mean?
@@InZanelyOp true, what seer had back on release was way to much for just a new character. They made bro almost nothing now.
Honestly if they want to buff him I say
- widen tac just a bit ( by like 0.5 meters/ 1.6 ft )
- slow enemy on hit for 2 sec
- 5 dmg upon hit
- take away health scan but keep silence debuff
- a change on how tac works ( functionally ): can switch between modes, going through walls or bouncing off walls ( like press q will activate it then deploy with the left mouse button or right mouse button will change how it works, r button for bounce, l button for wall pierce )
bounces off walls 2 times instead of going through walls, if it hits a wall on the 3 bounce or is at the end of its length creates a large dome of the micro drones
( think Deadlock ult from Val )
Also it shows a line on where the tac will go and bounce just to help
Sry kind of long But honestly even this might be too much
@@blastburn150 yo actually that shit is very creative, clever if im honest. But it makes sense tho. I have some ideas but ik its too much or might be too little. The 5 dmg is what i’ve been saying to other people but i get no response back, but it is a good idea its not to much and not too little yk? And the wall bouncing, I never thought of that! I just do hope one day seer does get some attention he needs.
Edit: and don’t worry about your sentences being too long, I like reading. 😁
Played apex quite a bit from season 6-14, but then randomly stopped. I’m finally getting back into it and have been watching your videos to get up to date with the current meta- as I was always in the loop back when I played. Anyway, ive always been a Wattson main and remember constantly seeing her at the bottom of tier lists- but remember her slowly making her way up just as I stopped playing.
It’s crazy to come back now and see her in S tier!! Hopefully she’ll be just as fun to play for me as she was even when she wasn’t in the meta xD
I still cant get over the fact that new castle looks exactly like a train, but mabey 20lbs heavier
I really wanted to talk with someone about a tier list. I believe this season we have much more A tier legends than ever!
i disagree with seer being d-tier, i think he's solidly b-tier. his passive is huge for gunfights because you can just pre-aim angles with the info it gives you, and his tac is pretty strong tbh. he just has an overall good kit and i just don't really see how he could be ranked any lower than b. just objectively looking at his kit, it's really solid.
Seer strong af they sleep.
getting hit by his tactical is annoying af
I think the only reason why he is so low is because of how hard it is to hit the tac ( tbh it really isn’t just aim where you think enemy’s will be and it’s a 80/20 chance ) this is versus crypto and BLOODHOUND where you just chuck/ use the thing and you get info.
Oh no…TIM DID U FORGET WHAT HAPPENED LAST SEASON WHEN U DID THIS 😂
No way but "BLOODHOUND" is first pick of every pro player..This legend has done a magic.. meanwhile i am a revenant main but whenever i saw there is a bloodhound in enemy squad i literally get scared..
buying the bloodhound prestige skin then leaving the game for years just to come back to bloodhound being 'god tier' is lovely
I'd say this list is more of his preference to which legends he likes to play with. Ash is super underrated. It's hard to third-party a good crypto. Ballistic provides way more support then Bangalore for fights. Unlimited ammo plus faster reloads not to mention being able to null your opponents fire? And your whole team gets it. Put ballistic with seer and say rev or ash and you know how to play the characters then it's hard to win.
I would put Crypto in A tier, he’s debatably the best if not 2nd best Recon legend. Drone scans for entire team, emp, grabbing banners/survey beacon scanning remotely.
I’m biased on him tho😅
I’d put him in A but if he’s mastered he’s viable for S
@@Professor_Finesser Preach Crypto is my favourite legend
mirage soo underrated holy shit no way is he last. I guarantee u still shoot his bamboozels and the ult will win u a fight everytime if u don’t suck(i’ve never played him💀)
It took awhile for Bangalore to climb to god tier??? She was literally always that good just severely slept on lol. It took pros playing her for people to realize she’s S tier lol. Even in the very early days of Apex I said bang and blood were a meta combo
Not really in my opinion. Excessive scans for a long time hurt her whenever you were in the smoke.
@@TimProVision that’s a fair point and I can respect that. Getting caught/scanned in your own smoke can still hurt her in today’s meta. Ultimately I just feel like Bangalore always paired well with scan legends and feel like it took a lot of players a while to realize that. But at the end of the day (as you’ve said before) Apex does have a healthy dose of legends that can be viable in their own way
I’ve been waiting for this vid lets gooooo
With Ballistic even if you're not in the fight tag a person and your teammate as long as they hit every shot they auto win that match of TTK. You tag a person your mate is pushing then go take another Opp so his mate fights 1's. He has two of these, not to mention his ult gives speed and reload to the team. He provides team with buffs and ttk priority all the while winning majority of his own
Putting him below REV?! Rev is only good with his ult, his passive is subpar and his jump is outclassed by Vantage, Paths and Horizons tac.
Easily the most slept on character this season. He is crazy strong right now. I’ve been winning tons of solo games and ranked games with him.
@@jonesyxxiv it impossible to lose 1v1's with him. Bullet hit is 20 DMG, Overheat is 30 so that's 50 difference in shield aswell as TTK advantage. Ppl really be sleeping 😴
I watch so often I might as well subscribe lol
Vantage's jump is extremely underrated imo. I'd argue that it's better than Rev's pounce in cooldown, startup speed, and controlling where you land
Your underestimate how good rampart can be in battle and is great with her cover build. Her mini gun has cleared many squads and trios easily especially in tough situations
Personally, I don’t think Wraith deserves to be an A tier legend like at all. She’s has a great potential while playing solo. Q for escapes and Ult for a faster movement/rotations/something like that. But the thing is, this game is not really about being a solo player. If you wanna relocate your team from one place to another, you may just pick valk/octane/pathfinder or just an evac tower. Small hit box is not enough for an A tier
i enjoy it when people sleep on my preferred characters. :)
Appreciate the video and like the list, but it would have been really helpful to see examples of what you were describing with abilities, rather than just gun fights. There were some bits, but it would have been better to see the specific abiities in action to showcase their benefits.
Definitly make more lists dude. Ranked list for sure and make this again mid way through the season, I’ll rewatch even if it basically the same thing over again
Seer main here:
Though i disagree with him being ranked as low as he is, i absolutely agree he desporately needs either a rework or a major tweak or two.
honestly, rampart can keep up pretty well, it just requires a lot of micromanaging but if you do that it’s near impossible to get caught out, if we’re talking full potential then i’d argue A tier but for someone who just picks her up then i can agree with B even drop it down to C
I agree a good rampart is incredible. A bad one is absolutely useless more so than most legends if someone is bad. Her kit isn't as forgiving. It's literally all about setup and micromanagement like you said.
Ya rampart underrated imo
@@wyattstorm98 bro if they changed her reload perk to work for her entire team or just took it away and extended her passive to other weapon classes like ARs or shotguns she’d be insane
Rampart is very underrated, but the other controllers just are a lot more viable rn
The video I’ve been waiting for😂
as a mag main i actively look for shotguns cause the speed you get while pushing someone is insane paired with a havoc
Alter just a delivery loot legend when you play vs her. If you see her tactical, just use shotgun and grab a kill. If you see her ult, just wait one minute and grab three kills. She so bad legend.
6:22 life down
Cryptos the best in the game (slightly some bias)
Great video btw
Love the content man
They have needed bang in every update practically. Now we want to put her in S tier? Why the smoke nerf after holo removed? That was OD
like the list, i’m bumping up rev to high A tier tho, and ik this probs goes for all legends, but if you have an amazing newcastle on your team w the right pieces, he’s without a doubt S tier
Been waiting on this💯💯
Hope you enjoy
So Mirage on D tier, and Octane on B tier... Is this a ranked tier list or a pubs one? cuz this doesnt make sense. no way jose
This is based on team viability in both ranked and pubs ( mentioned in another comment and should at least be in the description ) tbh octane should be in c but mirage should be in c but gets out beaten by a lifeline or Newcastle revive
Hey Tim, whenever everyone settles into their actual ranks (in about a week I assume) can you make another ranked tier list?
Buff Ash Ult cooldown to Mad Maggie and Octane cool down time and she's a solid A tier. Her ult isn't one of the strongest so it wouldn't be broken to buff it. Ofc I'm bias as she was the first legend I solo Q'd to D2 with when she came out.
Honestly I don’t think the cooldown should be the change. I think the ultimate should be reworked or at least buff the range on this thing to have the same long range as say pathfinders zip line, that would make it a lot more viable and be a good rotation tool. When they changed paths zip to do that he became such a better legend, there is no reason why ash’s ult should only cover the horizontal range of revenants pounce, it’s an ultimate, the range should go farther…
Glad to see the bang n blood combo is still goated
After the buffs, I think Crypto is A tier. Great list nonetheless, I agreed with most of it
Its nice that you put wattson in s Tier
I changed last Season from rev Main to a wattson Main and this was my best decision. 😁
I think your ranking and your opinion is a 9/10 😊
I think we need to get ris of d tier and below. No legend is bad or underwhelming now
Not in my opinion/my list.
@@TimProVision i mean yeh sure, but come on bro... Every legend shines in different aspects now. Im not bothered personally since i agree with most of your picks but I just dont understand why the consensus is that there needs to be a bad tier in every video. The legends are really balanced
@@je36youtube some legends are just more equal then others its like if everyone is broken being balanced means being bad when there are horizon bloodhound conduit etc. ballistic is just bad it might be balanced but its still trash
@@dogukanckr3618 im sorry but once again ballistic and mirage have their areas where they are really good and i wouldnt consider them bad at all. You might just be bad with them
There isn't a bad tier in this video. Stop making random stuff up
I will say this ballistic does not deserve an A tier or s tier which we can almost all agree on. But I would pit him on a solid B tier. He's an easy to use legend and (In my opinion) is viable in ranked as long as you put the right legend combos (like ballistic rev combining both ults. Ballistic with faster reload and a small speed boost with revs bubble ult which could be a great tanking strat).
My girl Wattson getting the love she deserves ❤🎉
Seer slander is insane. Had a teammate with me for two games in a row where we ran Bangalore, Seer and Vantage and putting enemies in the smoke and being able to see their footsteps made Seer a crucial part to winning two times games ina row.
Or you can just use Bloodhound, and see their whole body lol
Loba’s bracelet is amazing!
no bro your just horny *i am too - I main loba :)
bro, my squad and i went up against an alter and we won? we got trapped, she placed a portal in the ground under a building and then it closed while my team and i were down there. we were down there as one of the last surviving squads but then the ring got us. absolutely ludicrous Alter shenanigans
Should i main loba over horizon
Mirage is actually useful, I fought off 4 parties and only died to the 5th party and got 6 kills 6 assists
I’m literally always watching your vids so I’ll sub🤷🏾♂️
Wait why were digital threat sights removed? :(
I believe they didn't like the how the meta was shifting around a sight.
In my opinion as an Mirage player they need to had to her kit the option to being able to change you for one of their decoys.
Like Loki on Marvel Rivals
That ballistic shot their hands so it hit both of them that’s crazy
Do a ranking for legends in solo’s. Now that it’s out it would be cool to see who is meta by themselves
maybe biased but ballistic tac is underrated esp with purple upgrade. it's like extra bullets in the mag
My girl wattson finally back in s tier 🎉🎉🎉🎉
do u think that to get a balanced game would we need to make all legends b tier legends or push all of them to s tier legends
Probably everyone at A imo.
@@TimProVision the best would be buff and push all legends below a tier to A and then tweak a little the s one to make them A, but its ea and we know they only care bout money so it will never happen
love the bit where you used an actual tier list
Alter ult is really good for saving knocked teammates
it is interesting to see your opinion on certain characters compared to how I see them (being a filthy casual)
Loba to me seemed like such a redundant pick outside of the fact that she's a support because in the way I see it, you can just know what location loot spawns and check every one since areas are generally not that large. (unless we're talking broken moon's wide ass size)
Vantage was a pretty fun pick for me for some time because she was basically a "jack of all trades" legend, having intel gathering with her passive and survey beacons, movement with her tactical, and damage with her ult. but at the cost of being slightly worse in every department than other legends
and lastly, seeing ballistic be ranked so low because he doesn't provide the things other legends do is pretty amusing considering his smart bullet can just negate the ability from your opponent to fight back and that's not even considering his ultimate that makes himself and his entire team better at shooting (I understand why you'd rank him that low but it goes to show how strong other legends are when such a substantial buff to yourself and de-buff to the enemy just won't cut it in higher levels of play)
Tbh they should add you as a legened in the game
Season 16 seer was the best legend in my opinion. You could use his ult for many things and a good one was knowing if you can revive your teammates. His tactical could cancel heals and revives which made him super strong for 3v1s or just in general. Seer is now just a fragment of what he used to be. I hope Alex adds his ability to cancel heals and revives back and maybe some other things.
He was literally gamebreaking, why the fuck would anyone want that trash back in the game
@@biggiecheese2004 because he was game breaking
Tim pro or Mango? Who’s ranking is better iooono
No way alter is just a and Bangalore is S after all the nerfs
Absolutely alter is overhyped just like loba was when people thought teleporting was broken. You're just not used to it. Bang ult is S tier final circle and pushing or defense. Her entire kit has multiple uses that aren't too skill reliant just requires a bit of game sense and character knowledge. Alter requires some serious big brain thinking just to make a 25 second cooldown ability feel broken which once everyone realizes how to play against her she won't be as good. Plus there's a bug rn where she instantly goes through the portal without phasing and has her weapons ready faster than intended. She will be a great secondary fragger no doubt but she will have her place in the meta eventually and everyone will come to their senses. I haven't had a game yet, ranked or pubs, where she was like a huge threat. You can hear the portal with good audio, you know she's either coming through, or she's not. If you think she's about to come through play a good position with cover if you're able to and she just positioned herself inside with you and your team. Honestly if them pushing was the difference between you guys winning or losing the fight, you lost already.
I can honestly see her settling in high B tier in her current state.
@@jozeferickson85 Bangalore is locked in S tier permanently. Even if they would remove her perks, passive and ult ENTIRELY without replacements, even if tactical would have a minute CD with one charge, she would still be S tier character. Because smoke is the most essential tactical in the entire game. It's the best tac in the game with no close second. Because it's a SMOKE GRENADE in heavy team info reliant game.
Person at Respawn that thought "We should give smoke to only one character in the game and not provide any other sources of this insanely powerful effect" is a moron who must not balance any other game in his lifetime.
Just imagine what would happen in CS if only one person in the entire team could get smoke, this person would be the most valuable player every single round. Same with Apex, just to a bit lesser extent
@ilyakusenco8151 yeah exactly and it has many uses aswell. My point though is that she's overhyped. People need to adjust and she will die down
My problem with alter is that i kinda dont know what is she supposed to be. Its just like yeah u can grab from death boxes, breach building and teleport back after 2,5 years. She does entrying,supporting and anchoring at 50% and its not really that good
bro flexed so hard he confused every new player
Dripto is superbly accurate lol
Was literally in the middle of watching a different tier list video and thinking “man this ain’t good”
Crypto is easily the best recon and its not even close, his passive info is leagues beyond bloodhound since he has a constant safety net of knowing when teams are within 200m
He also has the fastest Evo farming in the game able to hit multiple beacons while being completely safe which is vital on broken moon with how spread out harvesters are
Tim is my go to cc for apex ratings, everyone should sub and like
As a wattson main, I think will forever be the best legend ever
Why does everyone think that gibby is mid because of maggy? Yeah she's fast with shotguns and counters the bubble, but he still has a bunch of health, and his ult is still good. Also, you said that Fuse was A tier even though his entire kit is countered by wattson.
Wattson is a fairly low pick rate legend. So that somewhat gets factored in.
@@TimProVision I will never understand why Wattson has pretty much never been hard meta
He's too unforgiving, bad bubble will lose you the game, bad ult will make you die to third party plus it has a 5 year cooldown so you have to be extremely selective with it, Newcastle and caustic are both much better if you're going to pick a fortified legend
@@MC-ns8gb i think you're thinking of the old ult. plus, everyone likes bang and her ult actually has a longer cooldown. Plus, a good gibby rarely does bad bubbles, and it's worth it to try because a good bubble is really good
Bangalore getting the love she deserves I’ve been using her since I started playing
Mirage my favorite rn
Bro balistic is either a or b tier he’s my main and im so good with him
I watched this while pooping. I love you ❤
Also so glad you put the handshake collateral in lmao
The best😫
Are you gonna do a solos version? Bc I find ash and conduit very good in solos
Probably not since solos isn't permanent yet
@@TimProVision awww darn
Rip time cheers for Wattson comp winning another LAN proving how strong, viable and will go down as one of the best comp legends/characters and also for the list loved it! ⚡️💙🌬
As a Newcastle main, we cookin this season 😈
Yurrr
We need a classic playlist. No shields or helmets on drop, wingman having 12 rounds in the mag with a purple heavy mag, kraber and mastiff only in care package, and lifeline shield when reviving. No damage counters. Quality! Classic kings canyon. Where legends were made. Not this Mickey Mouse crap we got everyone gets participation shields we got now.
the fact that bangalore and bloodhound(my boy😭) is getting some nerfs is hella funny to me
except for bloodhound cause hes my boy
What is best fov in console
110 for me, i have 27' monitor
What skin is that for loba asking for a friend 😅
As a new player and a passive player I’m debating whether I should Get catalyst, loba, or caustic. Any suggestions?
Caustic imo is the best of these!
@@TimProVision alright! Thank u
@@TimProVisionbut for a newer player Loba is a lot easier to learn the guns and stuff
Gibraltar should be able to break his dome by pressing the tactical button again
Weird choice with mirage given every person including people in ranked are slotting mirage a bit higher this time.
His decoys still make a lot of noise that confuses experienced players
The mirage disrespectf😢
No it's common place he is garbage stop saying stupid shit
I’m a fuse main and he can be insane with his ult
Bangalore was great in the beginning of apex, then they nerfed her smoke grenades to two instead of 3 and I can’t play her anymore 😭
Feel like Crypto is an absolute sleeper pick this season
I've been running cat this season in ranked and she's been decent so far but there's more fuses and Maggie's running around which can be a pain😅. I like her wall for cover and rotations but I'm wanting to see if there's someone better for ranked, I can play? I like being the defense player on the team, or someone that has an ability to help end game. I've been running cat, caustic, and blood the past couple seasons but again, not sure which direction to go or stick with.
Im gonna be really annoyed if they nerf alter. Not only is she not too powerful but shes fun asf to play. Havent had this much fun with a new legend in a long time.
They VERY carefully balanced her. They even said in forum discussions they spent extra time balancing her because they knew she could be too strong with the theme. I don’t see any part of her needing a nerf.
Hadda take this with more than one grain of salt