@@PanzerPlatform honestly your doing great , im not one usually to ask but can you do a vidoe about the replacement of intake manafold? Its the biggest ordeal with these cars and i dont want to pay an arm and a leg for it
@@TheAyas94 Unfortunately I haven't had to replace those yet. Both of my Panther cars are still on their original intake manifolds; 2004 Crown Vic civilian model 161K MIles. 2010 Grand Marquis 77K Miles. -Chuck
Right on Eric, Thanks for the kind words. I no longer recommend the use of resistors to prevent hyperflash. Check out this video here; ruclips.net/video/njQoWTsfBuk/видео.html -Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform thanks for letting me know. I have a question though? I have a 2003 mercury grand marquis is there still a valid recall for this issue? I've heard a lot about it and even went to the nhtsa website and can't find anything about my particular vin/vehicle ever even being serviced for it. I know I'm just a random guy on RUclips, I just found it strange and wonder if this is common? The lcm recall?
@@ericsfishingadventures4433 The recall is still ongoing to my knowledge. I get letters for my 2004 Vic every year. The Recall Number is 15S39. Here is a copy of it; static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2015/RCMN-15V861-0180.pdf - You might want to print all 16 pages, and take it with you, and your car to your local Ford dealer. If they are unable, or unwilling to perform the recall. You may want to call Ford Customer Service at 1 (800) 392-3673 -Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform oh my goodness! Thank you so much! You have been more than helpful, way more than you even know! I watched the first video you recommended and learned a lot and I greatly appreciate it. I've been watching the videos you've done about this particular experience and it's been an absolute wealth of knowledge. Again thank you, thank you, thank you! :)
the beginning of the video shows Chuck being undecided to either go to Autozone to the left, Harbour Freight to the right, or better press the brakes and stay home making another awesome video
It was this exact reason I went with the Lasfit ones! No extra wiring and they were sponsored! Time will tell how good they last. Great explanation though! Thanks Chuck!
Thanks for stopping by Jason. You don't know how right you are (adding resistors are a pain). In my research, I did find a way to fix the hyper flashing without adding a resistor. Vehicle's like the F-150 simply replace the stock flasher relay with one of a different spec, like this one called the "Novita EP27" for ($15); www.amazon.com/Novita-EP27-Flasher/dp/B000JZ33H8/ref=pd_sbs_263_t_0/131-0307258-1620270?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000JZ33H8&pd_rd_r=edcdb431-15de-4a0c-be46-749b6230d7b9&pd_rd_w=aVyp7&pd_rd_wg=AP2j9&pf_rd_p=5cfcfe89-300f-47d2-b1ad-a4e27203a02a&pf_rd_r=A5M69FMMQVY1KKEST49C&psc=1&refRID=A5M69FMMQVY1KKEST49C - However, on a Panther Vehicle after installing the EP27 Flasher, it requires cutting, and connecting a few wires in the LCM. And, I'm not exactly enthused about modifying the LCM. Especially since, my '04 is still on the original LCM, and I still haven't had the recall performed, (I don't want the recall performed until I actually have an issue with it. Sorry for making you read all this garbage. -Chuck
Really good video! When my 96 T-Bird comes out of the paint shop I'll be replacing the incandescent brake, reverse, parking and front turn signal lamps with Sylvania LED's.
Yo Dave, Thanks for watching. If you want to fix the hyper-flash there may be an easier way to fix it than adding resistors. It's called replacing the flasher relay with an LED compliant flasher. I'm not familiar with T-Birds. If they use a Lighting Control Module this video may be helpful; ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html - -Chuck
I went Zevo crazy on my car, 2011 Crown Vic, the interior feels like a much newer car simply from the different light temperature and the fact that they are are MUCH brighter than the stock incandescent bulbs. As for the turn signals and brake lights, the improvement is very noticeable. Take this with a grain of salt as results may vary based on the lens and reflector of the housing you're replacing the bulb for. Overall, these are worth the cost and considering their warranty, I haven't found better. Only warning is to make sure you can locate your factory turn signal relay so you can either replace it or bypass it with an LED compliant flasher module. If your electrical system had all incandescent to start with, it is expecting the resistance of incandescent bulbs. Switching to all LEDs will trigger the hyper flash of your turn signals which normally signals a burnt out bulb. This may vary but will most likely be the case.
Important note: If you put LED bulbs in the 3rd brake light (CHMSL), you will likely be unable to use your cruise control or remote starter if you have one installed. This happened to me. The problem is that the cruise control detects if the brake lights are on in a certain way that only works with incandescent bulbs. When you put in LEDs with significantly less resistance, the cruise thinks the brake lights are always on. (This does not affect the use of the actual brake light though). And most aftermarket remote starters, like mine, are wired in this same circuit to sense if the brake lights are on (to prevent theft while the car is running). Theoretically you may be able to solve it with resistors but I never tried. I had to put back the original bulbs in my 3rd brake light to get cruise and remote start back. But my other brake lights and turn signals are still LED with an LED flasher spliced in between the LCM (I didn't want resistors) and there are no other problems. As you said, the Sylvania ZEVO bulbs are the best for this application.
Hey Peter, Thanks for watching, and taking time to comment. I'm sure passers by will appreciate the good info. - What was the year, make, and model of the vehicle you did this on? -Chuck
It's my 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. It probably applies to all 92-11 Panthers. Ford even has a TSB for Panther cars stating that LED brake lights could interfere with cruise and aftermarket remote starters. See here: i.imgur.com/eWBl14f.png
Great video. Well produced. You provided very good, useful info. And with the install going years back, it provides me confidence to the same for my vehicle. The demo shows the lights do great at night. How do they stack up in the daytime? Thanks for the video!
Arrr Matey, Thanks for watching. That is an excellent question. One of the most difficult things about upgrading factory halogen turn signal bulbs with LED is the difference between the "low brightness", and the "high brightness" especially during daytime conditions. I'm pleased to report these quality Sylvania Zevo's tick all the boxes, in all the categories. They are my most favorite LED bulb in terms of longevity, brightness, and price. However, they do not work in all vehicle's reflector housings. This is because there are so many different variations that car manufacturer's use to "style" their turn signal assemblies. So unfortunately these "bulbs" fall into the same category as all other LED bulbs in the terms of "buy & try". So I only recommend buying LED bulbs from a trusted retailer that has a no hassle, no restocking fee, free return policy. Based on this most all my bulbs come from Amazon (30 day return period), and Walmart (90 return period). Ebay, and local auto parts stores, or "premium" LED retailers like diode dynamics, or lasfit DO NOT have a no hassle return policy. So choose wisely. -Chuck
I just installed these bulbs in my 99lx. I accidently created sequential tailights lol. I forgot there is two tail light bulbs per side and i only bought one two pack of Sylvania led bulbs. So i just installed one new LED bulb on each side. Now the faster reacting led bulb pops on first then the original comes on second. Lol
Right on ATL, Thanks for watching. I learned my lesson not to quote colored wires because they can differ from year to year. I recommend you have a basic understanding of electrical before you attempt adding resistors to prevent hyperflash. You just need to connect the resistor in parallel to the circuit for each turn signal bulb. I apologize if that's vauge, and confusing. But it's the simplest way to describe how it works. And you'll need to do a little more research to determine what will work for your application. -Chuck
Right on Tac, Thanks for watching, and the good feedback. I no longer recomend the use of resistors. I found a "better, safer, cheaper, easier" way to fix hyperflash. Check out this video here; ruclips.net/video/njQoWTsfBuk/видео.html - -Chuck
I will say this. U did mention Almost all led bulb replacements from sylvania zevo to Formula J87. But u haven’t mention what led bulb reverse lights u have. It would also be nice if u show us what led reverse light bulb u have, and why u choose as a settled and forgetted led bulb reverse lights?
Chuck do you happen to have an infrared thermometer? I'm curious how hot those resistors get. I think you are 100% right about mounting to the metal that has helped with the heat. thanks
I do, let me see what I can come up with. However, I checked the heat of the resistor with my hand when I installed them, and there was no heat. I don't think it's an issue because how long do you have your turn signal engaged? 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute? I think heat malfunctions may have come from installation error by installin the resistor on the "contant" power wire of the parking lamp circuit, instead on the turn signal circuit that flashes, only when engaged. Also I no longer recomend the use of resistors anyway. Have you seen this video; ruclips.net/video/njQoWTsfBuk/видео.html -Chuck
Instead of drilling into the sheet metal in the trunk would it be possible to wrap the resistors in electrical tape to disperse the heat and just have the resistors hanging down in there underneath the trunk carpet?
Yo Minuteman, Thanks for watching. Based on my experience with these little guys, and depending on the varying applications of different vehicles these resistors may get hot enough to melt through any electrical tape. Here are the instructions from the manufacturer; "EASY TO MOUNT: Simply attach the SYLVANIA load equalizer to a flat metal surface for proper heat transfer, then attach wires to those of socket with provided clips." From my understanding the resistor must be attached to a flat metal surface, otherwise it will be unable to dissipate all its heat, and may even fail prematurely. I understand you do not want to drill holes in your trunk. This is why I no longer recommend this method of fixing the hyper-flash issue. I have a newer video discussing how fix hyper-flash in a Panther car without using any resistors. You can see it here; ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html - -Chuck
Smart to install the kit to avoid hyper flash. I was gonna do the same thing, but I kinda like it. Way more visible when it flashes faster. Am I crazy? Lol
Right on Clone, Thanks for watching. The purpose of hypeflash is to indicate a malfunction when a turn signal, or tail light bulb is burned out. If it's always hyperflashing, it will make it difficult to tell when you have a real malfunction. Also, since hyperflash indicates a burned out turn signal, or stop light bulb it gives law enforcement probable cause to initiate a traffic stop. -Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform absolutely! That thought did cross my mind as far as the law enforcement aspect of it. It wouldn’t really bother me because I’m a good law abiding citizen and I could just explain that they are LEDs, but in the state of Virginia you will be failed on inspection if you have LED bulbs in an incandescent housing. That being said an officer who knows his traffic laws might be able to citate me. I’m no stranger to electrical work as I am quite the audio enthusiast and amateur radio enthusiast so I might as well just put these resistors in I guess. I have got to say though, the LEDs look amazing in your crown Vic. What year is it? I drive a 2005 Ford 500 (the crown Vic’s chubbier cousin IMO) and I love my car to death. I’m going to drive that thing until it blows up. I have been thinking about getting a second car, and trying to find a crown Victoria that’s been owned by old people who took good care of it. Vic’s are awesome cars!
@@clone1137 Right on, I no longer recomend the use of resistors to fix hyperflash. Theres is a better way by replacing the flasher with an LED compliant flasher like this; ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html - I have two Panther Cars, 2004 Crown Vic, 2010 Grand Marquis; ruclips.net/video/IE3Hh4xuGpw/видео.html -
Yo Archie, This is an excellent question. I no longer recommend the use of resistors. I made a video all about it. I'll leave a link to the video in a separate comment. To answer your question; No, I've never worried about them starting a fire. I've been running this set up in my '04 Vic since 2012 and my '10 Grand Marquis since 2018, and have not seen any signs of overheating. I believe that is due to the quality Sylvania Brand Name resistors, and having them mounted directly to the car's sheet metal to dissipate heat properly. -Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform hey Chuck I really appreciate the quick and informative response...I'll be looking into this asap...thanks again and you have a new subscriber....
Hello, im french and i have a crown I must do this modification for the French legislation so I want some advise to do this myself I must do this for the front turn signal to Thanks Tom
Right on Chris, Yes, and no. Some Fords like F-150 you can pop out the flasher relay from the fuse box under the dash, and replace it with an LED compliant flasher to correct hyperflash. Unfortunately all Panther cars 1992-2011 the flasher relay is soldered inside the LCM (lighting control module). But there is a way to bypass it. I disscus how to to it here; ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html - Just skip to the chapter called Advanced Level Fix. -Chuck
I tried to utilize your setup on my 2011 CVPI. With the resistors installed I still had hyperflash on my turn signals. If I removed the led brake bulb and replaced it with the halogen, the hyperflash went away. I thought it might be a defective resistor so I used the same one on the passenger side rear turn signal. Same result if the halogen bulb wasn't installed in the brake light. On my 2011 the wires have the same color code designation. Orange for blinker, black for ground and brown for brake. No idea what I'm doing wrong.
Right on Morgan, Thanks for the good question. You need one resistor per bulb. For the rear, there are four bulbs, you need four resistors. How many resistors did you install? -Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform I installed one resistor per bulb. But after repeated attempts to get the brake light to stop hyperflashing (checking over my work to make sure everything was wired correctly) I ended up removing the LED bulb from the brake light and replacing it with the original halogen. The turn signal still has it's resistor and LED bulb and everything works fine.
@@drevildruid I'm confused. Do you know have LED turn signals in the REAR operating properly without hyperflash? Also what bulbs do you have in the front turn signals, (LED or Halogen)? I forgot to mention those will have an effect on the rear turn signals.
@@PanzerPlatform I now have rear turn signals operating properly without hyperflash (as long as I have halogens in the brake lights). If I try to put LED in the brake light I get hyperflash. I also thought of what you're suggesting in regards to the front turn signals. I will get hyperflash in the front and rear ONLY when an LED is installed in the rear brake light. When it's halogen there is no hyperflash in either the front turn signals nor the rear. I have these Sylvania Zevo LED 3157R (the same as in your video). I have no explanation for it. It doesn't make any sense, it should work.
@@drevildruid OK, I understand. What brand of resistors are you using? The sylvania, or the no brand name from amazon, or ebay. Do you know how to use a multimeter? I would measure the resistance of each resistor to make sure each one is 6 ohms. Another possibility is you attached the resistor to the wrong wire. You need to attached the resistors on the + positive wire for the turn signal bulb circuit. If you installed the resistor on the + positive wire for the parking lamp circuit, the resistors will have no effect.
Yo USS, Thanks for the kind words, *UPDATE* I recommend adding an LED Compatible Relay Flasher instead of resistors. Here's my video about it; ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html - -Chuck
Yo Mr. Singh, Thanks for watching, and taking time to comment. Most likely yes. If you don't want to add resistors, depending on your vehicle you may replace the flasher relay, with an LED compatable flasher. -Chuck
@PantherPlatforn When u installed sylvania - load equalizer resistors to the tail lights, was it enough to have one pair of the resistors to stop the hyperflash? Or do we need another pair for the front as well to get rid of the hyperflash completely? I feel like one pair of 50 6ohms of the sylvania resistors or any of the resistors will be enough to get rid of the hyperflash by mounting them either front OR rear turn signals.
@@PanzerPlatform I see. I’m guessing that putting them on older vehicles that doesn’t have high tech or more tech on a vehicle would possibly require more resistors. But low tech or basic vehicle that doesn’t have lots of tech. Maybe and hopefully this should be enough for a pair. Any issues of ur sylvania - load equalizer resistors?
@@PanzerPlatform wow that’s very impressive. I’m glad these sylvania resistors works wonders very well. They should of also make these as a plug and play version. Meaning like a resistors with connectors of 3157,1156/1157,7443,7440. That would of been a true plug and play, if sylvania makes them. But it still great to have those T-tabs that u can sandwich them together and get rid of the hyperflash. Rather than cut and splice the wires together.
I have a 09 crown Victoria and due to your videos I am going to completely upgrade the lighting your videos are far better in terms with explaining how to do stuff and the rite type of product to use love it is there a led for the third brake light available?
Yo Miguel, I specifically do not make "How To Videos". All I can say is; "Attach the resistor in "parallel" in the circuit". Everyone has a different skill level. You should have a basic understanding of electrical circuits before you attempt this modification. -Chuck
Yo Miguel, Thanks for the kind words. Since your going that far, I do not recommend the use of resistors to fix hyper flash in a Panther car. I recommend you install an LED Compliant Flasher Relay. I made a video about. You can see it here; ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html - The bulbs I recommend for the center high mounted third brake light is the Sylvania Zevo 168 RED. Your third brake light fixture takes two bulbs. Here is a link to the bulbs, but you can buy them anywhere; www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-ZEVO-Bulb-Contains-bulbs/dp/B07J5YTB8C/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=zevo+168+red&qid=1590597410&sr=8-3 - They're very expensive at $20 a pair, but they have a lifetime warranty. -Chuck
Right on Chris, Thanks for watching. Trouble free since 2012. For our Panther cars you only need resistors on the turn signals. Here's a video that goes into more detail; ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html - -Chuck
Did you loose cruise control after installing the LED third brake light? I read a comment mentioning something like that. Thinking about converting my Grand Marquis to LED
Yo Dirty, Thanks for watching, very good question. That is very true, but it depends on model year. My Vic is a 2004, and my Grand Marquis is a 2010. I have LED's in both third brake lights, and both cruise controls function properly. If I remember correctly it's the older model years. I wanna say 1998-2002, or maybe even older. I usually advise to buy LED bulbs from retailers that do not charge a re-stocking fee for returns for a bulb that does not function properly. That usually means Walmart, or Amazon in my location. I've had push back trying to return LED bulbs from ebay, AutoZone, O'Reilly, and Napa. When I'm converting halogen, to LED I want to be able to do it hassle free, and at no risk of being stuck with a bulb that will not work for my application. -Chuck
Did you experience hyper flash when you installed the LED bulbs? or was it something that happened over time? I just installed the LED bulbs with no resistors and there's no hyper flashing. thinking of returning the resistors. could use the $30 for LED amber turn signals instead.
Yo Retro, Thanks for watching. It depends on the LED bulb. I have experienced both issues you describe. In the end, they still required resistors to prevent hyperflash. -Chuck
there is another option is.... change out ur FLASHER UNIT that is made for LED's i did that on my 95 aerostar with all LEDS all around it got rid of the highper flash and "NO RESISTERS" too
Right on Aero, Thanks for watching. These cars do not use a replaceable flasher relay. They use a Lighting Control Module (LCM). So it's just a little more difficult, to install an LED compliant flasher relay. -Chuck
Right on H, Thanks for watching. Unfortunately yes. You need a resistor for every turn signal bulb you replace with an LED, (6 total, 2 front, 4 rear). I no longer recomend using resistors to fix hyperflash. I recomend using a single Electronic LED Compliant flasher as seen here; ruclips.net/video/njQoWTsfBuk/видео.html - -Chuck
@@heisenbergII Not sure what you're talking about. Please do your research, and know what you're doing. Read the instructions for the resistors. If you make an electrical mistake you can start a fire, and burn your car down.
Lets take a moment to appreciate how organized and clean you are , codos
Yo Ayas,
Thanks for watching, and the kind words.
"It's a gift, and a curse"
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform honestly your doing great , im not one usually to ask but can you do a vidoe about the replacement of intake manafold? Its the biggest ordeal with these cars and i dont want to pay an arm and a leg for it
@@TheAyas94
Unfortunately I haven't had to replace those yet.
Both of my Panther cars are still on their original intake manifolds;
2004 Crown Vic civilian model 161K MIles.
2010 Grand Marquis 77K Miles.
-Chuck
@@TheAyas94
Have you seen this?
ruclips.net/video/H4ca7P0udl4/видео.html
One of the best put together and professional videos I have found on how to do this type of job on a led swap with a panther of this Era. Thank you!
Right on Eric,
Thanks for the kind words.
I no longer recommend the use of resistors to prevent hyperflash.
Check out this video here; ruclips.net/video/njQoWTsfBuk/видео.html
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform thanks for letting me know. I have a question though? I have a 2003 mercury grand marquis is there still a valid recall for this issue? I've heard a lot about it and even went to the nhtsa website and can't find anything about my particular vin/vehicle ever even being serviced for it. I know I'm just a random guy on RUclips, I just found it strange and wonder if this is common? The lcm recall?
@@ericsfishingadventures4433
The recall is still ongoing to my knowledge.
I get letters for my 2004 Vic every year.
The Recall Number is 15S39.
Here is a copy of it; static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2015/RCMN-15V861-0180.pdf
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You might want to print all 16 pages, and take it with you, and your car to your local Ford dealer.
If they are unable, or unwilling to perform the recall.
You may want to call Ford Customer Service at 1 (800) 392-3673
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform oh my goodness! Thank you so much! You have been more than helpful, way more than you even know! I watched the first video you recommended and learned a lot and I greatly appreciate it. I've been watching the videos you've done about this particular experience and it's been an absolute wealth of knowledge. Again thank you, thank you, thank you! :)
the beginning of the video shows Chuck being undecided to either go to Autozone to the left, Harbour Freight to the right, or better press the brakes and stay home making another awesome video
Hi-Yo Silver,
Man, this is an old one.
One of my first videos.
-Chuck
It was this exact reason I went with the Lasfit ones! No extra wiring and they were sponsored! Time will tell how good they last. Great explanation though! Thanks Chuck!
Thanks for stopping by Jason.
You don't know how right you are (adding resistors are a pain).
In my research, I did find a way to fix the hyper flashing without adding a resistor.
Vehicle's like the F-150 simply replace the stock flasher relay with one of a different spec, like this one called the "Novita EP27" for ($15);
www.amazon.com/Novita-EP27-Flasher/dp/B000JZ33H8/ref=pd_sbs_263_t_0/131-0307258-1620270?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000JZ33H8&pd_rd_r=edcdb431-15de-4a0c-be46-749b6230d7b9&pd_rd_w=aVyp7&pd_rd_wg=AP2j9&pf_rd_p=5cfcfe89-300f-47d2-b1ad-a4e27203a02a&pf_rd_r=A5M69FMMQVY1KKEST49C&psc=1&refRID=A5M69FMMQVY1KKEST49C
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However, on a Panther Vehicle after installing the EP27 Flasher, it requires cutting, and connecting a few wires in the LCM. And, I'm not exactly enthused about modifying the LCM. Especially since, my '04 is still on the original LCM, and I still haven't had the recall performed, (I don't want the recall performed until I actually have an issue with it. Sorry for making you read all this garbage.
-Chuck
Yo Jason,
This comment did not age well. Lol
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform sadly not!
these bulbs are bright,, i use a led turn signal flasher it works with my 3157 zevo bulb
Right on Jim,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
Looks freakin awesome sir! I'm just afraid to do the resister thing I kind of don't feel capable of it.
Yo Deap,
Thanks for watching, and taking time to comment.
-Chuck
Really good video! When my 96 T-Bird comes out of the paint shop I'll be replacing the incandescent brake, reverse, parking and front turn signal lamps with Sylvania LED's.
Yo Dave,
Thanks for watching.
If you want to fix the hyper-flash there may be an easier way to fix it than adding resistors.
It's called replacing the flasher relay with an LED compliant flasher.
I'm not familiar with T-Birds. If they use a Lighting Control Module this video may be helpful;
ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html
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-Chuck
I went Zevo crazy on my car, 2011 Crown Vic, the interior feels like a
much newer car simply from the different light temperature and the fact
that they are are MUCH brighter than the stock incandescent bulbs. As
for the turn signals and brake lights, the improvement is very
noticeable. Take this with a grain of salt as results may vary based on
the lens and reflector of the housing you're replacing the bulb for.
Overall, these are worth the cost and considering their warranty, I
haven't found better. Only warning is to make sure you can locate your
factory turn signal relay so you can either replace it or bypass it with
an LED compliant flasher module. If your electrical system had all
incandescent to start with, it is expecting the resistance of
incandescent bulbs. Switching to all LEDs will trigger the hyper flash
of your turn signals which normally signals a burnt out bulb. This may
vary but will most likely be the case.
Yo Topher,
Thanks for watching, and the good feedback.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform no problem Chuck, keep putting out the quality videos!
@@christopherwilladsen2004
Yeah right.
If you're looking for quality, keep looking. lol
Can you share which zevos you installed on the interior?
A Gentleman and Scholar, thank you
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
Excellent video and excellent install too. I was going to install the same setup back in 2014 and the reason I didn't go the same route was the cost.
Right on JT,
I no longer recommend this set up.
Have you seen this; ruclips.net/video/njQoWTsfBuk/видео.html
-Chuck
Nice was wondering about this, now time to go to the junkyard and get some extra harness and add resistors thanks.
Hey Mafiatron,
Thanks for stopping by.
That's a terrific idea.
Thanks for letting us know.
-Chuck
I mounted my sylvania resisters on the external sheet metal behind the taillights on the vic and haven't had an issue with weather since March of 2021
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
Important note: If you put LED bulbs in the 3rd brake light (CHMSL), you will likely be unable to use your cruise control or remote starter if you have one installed. This happened to me.
The problem is that the cruise control detects if the brake lights are on in a certain way that only works with incandescent bulbs. When you put in LEDs with significantly less resistance, the cruise thinks the brake lights are always on. (This does not affect the use of the actual brake light though). And most aftermarket remote starters, like mine, are wired in this same circuit to sense if the brake lights are on (to prevent theft while the car is running). Theoretically you may be able to solve it with resistors but I never tried.
I had to put back the original bulbs in my 3rd brake light to get cruise and remote start back. But my other brake lights and turn signals are still LED with an LED flasher spliced in between the LCM (I didn't want resistors) and there are no other problems.
As you said, the Sylvania ZEVO bulbs are the best for this application.
Hey Peter,
Thanks for watching, and taking time to comment.
I'm sure passers by will appreciate the good info.
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What was the year, make, and model of the vehicle you did this on?
-Chuck
It's my 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. It probably applies to all 92-11 Panthers. Ford even has a TSB for Panther cars stating that LED brake lights could interfere with cruise and aftermarket remote starters. See here: i.imgur.com/eWBl14f.png
Good to know.
Thanks for the speedy reply.
This video helped me alot With my 2007 Ford Explorer. And make me want a 2nd Gen CV lol
Yo Skinny,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
Another great video! I’m gonna tackle this tomorrow I’ll let you know how it goes.
Right on PD,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
Great video. Well produced. You provided very good, useful info. And with the install going years back, it provides me confidence to the same for my vehicle. The demo shows the lights do great at night. How do they stack up in the daytime? Thanks for the video!
Arrr Matey,
Thanks for watching.
That is an excellent question.
One of the most difficult things about upgrading factory halogen turn signal bulbs with LED is the difference between the "low brightness", and the "high brightness" especially during daytime conditions.
I'm pleased to report these quality Sylvania Zevo's tick all the boxes, in all the categories.
They are my most favorite LED bulb in terms of longevity, brightness, and price.
However, they do not work in all vehicle's reflector housings.
This is because there are so many different variations that car manufacturer's use to "style" their turn signal assemblies. So unfortunately these "bulbs" fall into the same category as all other LED bulbs in the terms of "buy & try".
So I only recommend buying LED bulbs from a trusted retailer that has a no hassle, no restocking fee, free return policy. Based on this most all my bulbs come from Amazon (30 day return period), and Walmart (90 return period).
Ebay, and local auto parts stores, or "premium" LED retailers like diode dynamics, or lasfit DO NOT have a no hassle return policy.
So choose wisely.
-Chuck
I just installed these bulbs in my 99lx. I accidently created sequential tailights lol. I forgot there is two tail light bulbs per side and i only bought one two pack of Sylvania led bulbs. So i just installed one new LED bulb on each side. Now the faster reacting led bulb pops on first then the original comes on second. Lol
Right on P-Dub,
That's sounds awesome. lol
-Chuck
Hi
Great video!
Just a quick question. So you connect each resistor to ground and red wire. Correct me if I’m wrong. Thank you
Right on ATL,
Thanks for watching.
I learned my lesson not to quote colored wires because they can differ from year to year.
I recommend you have a basic understanding of electrical before you attempt adding resistors to prevent hyperflash.
You just need to connect the resistor in parallel to the circuit for each turn signal bulb.
I apologize if that's vauge, and confusing. But it's the simplest way to describe how it works. And you'll need to do a little more research to determine what will work for your application.
-Chuck
T-Splice?? I've always called the Vampire Clips 😂😎
Right on DM,
I like that. Lol
-Chuck
Nice video, I buy the Sylvania resistors due that the signals of my Panther are controled by a box inside the dash and it has no relays (LCM)
Right on Tac,
Thanks for watching, and the good feedback.
I no longer recomend the use of resistors.
I found a "better, safer, cheaper, easier" way to fix hyperflash.
Check out this video here; ruclips.net/video/njQoWTsfBuk/видео.html
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-Chuck
Great video bro you doing it big with the Vic
Hey Shann thanks,
Sorry I haven't been by in a while.
I'll be back when you get your Vic running.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform bet get I ain't really got shit interesting right now
I will say this.
U did mention Almost all led bulb replacements from sylvania zevo to Formula J87.
But u haven’t mention what led bulb reverse lights u have.
It would also be nice if u show us what led reverse light bulb u have, and why u choose as a settled and forgetted led bulb reverse lights?
Here you go;
ruclips.net/video/41M053GBgsg/видео.html
-Chuck
I like your video. Well done on that, but a small correction. It is the Panther platform, not Panzer.
Right on George,
Thanks for watching.
"Panther Platform" was the original name of my channel.
I later changed it to Panzer. lol
-Chuck
Chuck do you happen to have an infrared thermometer? I'm curious how hot those resistors get. I think you are 100% right about mounting to the metal that has helped with the heat. thanks
I do, let me see what I can come up with.
However, I checked the heat of the resistor with my hand when I installed them, and there was no heat.
I don't think it's an issue because how long do you have your turn signal engaged? 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute?
I think heat malfunctions may have come from installation error by installin the resistor on the "contant" power wire of the parking lamp circuit, instead on the turn signal circuit that flashes, only when engaged.
Also I no longer recomend the use of resistors anyway.
Have you seen this video; ruclips.net/video/njQoWTsfBuk/видео.html
-Chuck
Interesting!!
I am new to the Crown Vic legion 😂 and I plan on updating all my lights to LED I have a 2006 crown Vic Ex interceptor panther✌️
Right on Alex,
Thanks for watching, welcome to the club.
-Chuck
Instead of drilling into the sheet metal in the trunk would it be possible to wrap the resistors in electrical tape to disperse the heat and just have the resistors hanging down in there underneath the trunk carpet?
Yo Minuteman,
Thanks for watching.
Based on my experience with these little guys, and depending on the varying applications of different vehicles these resistors may get hot enough to melt through any electrical tape.
Here are the instructions from the manufacturer;
"EASY TO MOUNT: Simply attach the SYLVANIA load equalizer to a flat metal surface for proper heat transfer, then attach wires to those of socket with provided clips."
From my understanding the resistor must be attached to a flat metal surface, otherwise it will be unable to dissipate all its heat, and may even fail prematurely.
I understand you do not want to drill holes in your trunk. This is why I no longer recommend this method of fixing the hyper-flash issue.
I have a newer video discussing how fix hyper-flash in a Panther car without using any resistors.
You can see it here;
ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html
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-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform awesome thanks for the info
Smart to install the kit to avoid hyper flash. I was gonna do the same thing, but I kinda like it. Way more visible when it flashes faster. Am I crazy? Lol
Right on Clone,
Thanks for watching.
The purpose of hypeflash is to indicate a malfunction when a turn signal, or tail light bulb is burned out.
If it's always hyperflashing, it will make it difficult to tell when you have a real malfunction.
Also, since hyperflash indicates a burned out turn signal, or stop light bulb it gives law enforcement probable cause to initiate a traffic stop.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform absolutely! That thought did cross my mind as far as the law enforcement aspect of it. It wouldn’t really bother me because I’m a good law abiding citizen and I could just explain that they are LEDs, but in the state of Virginia you will be failed on inspection if you have LED bulbs in an incandescent housing. That being said an officer who knows his traffic laws might be able to citate me. I’m no stranger to electrical work as I am quite the audio enthusiast and amateur radio enthusiast so I might as well just put these resistors in I guess.
I have got to say though, the LEDs look amazing in your crown Vic. What year is it? I drive a 2005 Ford 500 (the crown Vic’s chubbier cousin IMO) and I love my car to death. I’m going to drive that thing until it blows up. I have been thinking about getting a second car, and trying to find a crown Victoria that’s been owned by old people who took good care of it. Vic’s are awesome cars!
@@clone1137
Right on,
I no longer recomend the use of resistors to fix hyperflash.
Theres is a better way by replacing the flasher with an LED compliant flasher like this;
ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html
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I have two Panther Cars, 2004 Crown Vic, 2010 Grand Marquis;
ruclips.net/video/IE3Hh4xuGpw/видео.html
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Were you ever worried about the carpet catching fire after you installed the resistors???
Yo Archie,
This is an excellent question.
I no longer recommend the use of resistors.
I made a video all about it.
I'll leave a link to the video in a separate comment.
To answer your question;
No, I've never worried about them starting a fire.
I've been running this set up in my '04 Vic since 2012 and my '10 Grand Marquis since 2018, and have not seen any signs of overheating.
I believe that is due to the quality Sylvania Brand Name resistors, and having them mounted directly to the car's sheet metal to dissipate heat properly.
-Chuck
Here is what I recommend instead of using resistors;
ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html
@@PanzerPlatform hey Chuck I really appreciate the quick and informative response...I'll be looking into this asap...thanks again and you have a new subscriber....
@@archiemoore1980
Right on Archie.
Welcome to the club, prepare to be disappointed.
-Chuck
Hello, im french and i have a crown
I must do this modification for the French legislation so I want some advise to do this myself
I must do this for the front turn signal to
Thanks
Tom
Right on Tom,
Please upload a short video showing your Ford Crown Victoria, and please describe what you need help with.
-Chuck
Doesn't Ford have Relay fuse for these types of issues or even for blinkers with LED lighting and Hyper Flash issues etc etc?
Right on Chris,
Yes, and no.
Some Fords like F-150 you can pop out the flasher relay from the fuse box under the dash, and replace it with an LED compliant flasher to correct hyperflash.
Unfortunately all Panther cars 1992-2011 the flasher relay is soldered inside the LCM (lighting control module).
But there is a way to bypass it.
I disscus how to to it here;
ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html
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Just skip to the chapter called Advanced Level Fix.
-Chuck
I tried to utilize your setup on my 2011 CVPI. With the resistors installed I still had hyperflash on my turn signals. If I removed the led brake bulb and replaced it with the halogen, the hyperflash went away. I thought it might be a defective resistor so I used the same one on the passenger side rear turn signal. Same result if the halogen bulb wasn't installed in the brake light. On my 2011 the wires have the same color code designation. Orange for blinker, black for ground and brown for brake. No idea what I'm doing wrong.
Right on Morgan,
Thanks for the good question.
You need one resistor per bulb.
For the rear, there are four bulbs, you need four resistors.
How many resistors did you install?
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform I installed one resistor per bulb. But after repeated attempts to get the brake light to stop hyperflashing (checking over my work to make sure everything was wired correctly) I ended up removing the LED bulb from the brake light and replacing it with the original halogen. The turn signal still has it's resistor and LED bulb and everything works fine.
@@drevildruid
I'm confused.
Do you know have LED turn signals in the REAR operating properly without hyperflash?
Also what bulbs do you have in the front turn signals, (LED or Halogen)?
I forgot to mention those will have an effect on the rear turn signals.
@@PanzerPlatform I now have rear turn signals operating properly without hyperflash (as long as I have halogens in the brake lights). If I try to put LED in the brake light I get hyperflash. I also thought of what you're suggesting in regards to the front turn signals. I will get hyperflash in the front and rear ONLY when an LED is installed in the rear brake light. When it's halogen there is no hyperflash in either the front turn signals nor the rear. I have these Sylvania Zevo LED 3157R (the same as in your video). I have no explanation for it. It doesn't make any sense, it should work.
@@drevildruid
OK, I understand.
What brand of resistors are you using?
The sylvania, or the no brand name from amazon, or ebay.
Do you know how to use a multimeter?
I would measure the resistance of each resistor to make sure each one is 6 ohms.
Another possibility is you attached the resistor to the wrong wire.
You need to attached the resistors on the + positive wire for the turn signal bulb circuit.
If you installed the resistor on the + positive wire for the parking lamp circuit, the resistors will have no effect.
God Bless You Sir
Yo USS,
Thanks for the kind words,
*UPDATE*
I recommend adding an LED Compatible Relay Flasher instead of resistors.
Here's my video about it;
ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html
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-Chuck
Will there be hyper flash if I use Sylvania Zevo Amber Led bulb as a turn signal light in my old model Suzuki Omni Cargo Van ? Plz reply
Yo Mr. Singh,
Thanks for watching, and taking time to comment.
Most likely yes. If you don't want to add resistors, depending on your vehicle you may replace the flasher relay, with an LED compatable flasher.
-Chuck
@PantherPlatforn
When u installed sylvania - load equalizer resistors to the tail lights, was it enough to have one pair of the resistors to stop the hyperflash?
Or do we need another pair for the front as well to get rid of the hyperflash completely?
I feel like one pair of 50 6ohms of the sylvania resistors or any of the resistors will be enough to get rid of the hyperflash by mounting them either front OR rear turn signals.
It depends on the vehicle.
My car needed 1 resistor per LED bulb.
@@PanzerPlatform I see. I’m guessing that putting them on older vehicles that doesn’t have high tech or more tech on a vehicle would possibly require more resistors. But low tech or basic vehicle that doesn’t have lots of tech. Maybe and hopefully this should be enough for a pair.
Any issues of ur sylvania - load equalizer resistors?
@@toyotabrony
I installed them on this car in the video back in 2012.
They are still working today.
@@PanzerPlatform wow that’s very impressive.
I’m glad these sylvania resistors works wonders very well.
They should of also make these as a plug and play version. Meaning like a resistors with connectors of 3157,1156/1157,7443,7440.
That would of been a true plug and play, if sylvania makes them.
But it still great to have those T-tabs that u can sandwich them together and get rid of the hyperflash. Rather than cut and splice the wires together.
At 15:03 I am trying to figure out how you placed the t taps into the wire
Yo Miguel,
Thanks for watching.
There's no wrong way to do it.
Attach the resistor in "parallel" in the circuit.
-Chuck
So one goes into the negative and the other one into the blinker rite
I have a 09 crown Victoria and due to your videos I am going to completely upgrade the lighting your videos are far better in terms with explaining how to do stuff and the rite type of product to use love it is there a led for the third brake light available?
Yo Miguel,
I specifically do not make "How To Videos".
All I can say is;
"Attach the resistor in "parallel" in the circuit".
Everyone has a different skill level.
You should have a basic understanding of electrical circuits before you attempt this modification.
-Chuck
Yo Miguel,
Thanks for the kind words.
Since your going that far, I do not recommend the use of resistors to fix hyper flash in a Panther car.
I recommend you install an LED Compliant Flasher Relay.
I made a video about.
You can see it here;
ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html
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The bulbs I recommend for the center high mounted third brake light is the Sylvania Zevo 168 RED.
Your third brake light fixture takes two bulbs.
Here is a link to the bulbs, but you can buy them anywhere;
www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-ZEVO-Bulb-Contains-bulbs/dp/B07J5YTB8C/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=zevo+168+red&qid=1590597410&sr=8-3
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They're very expensive at $20 a pair, but they have a lifetime warranty.
-Chuck
Have you had any problems at all ? Do you need to add resistors when swapping over the interior lights to leds ?
Right on Chris,
Thanks for watching.
Trouble free since 2012.
For our Panther cars you only need resistors on the turn signals.
Here's a video that goes into more detail;
ruclips.net/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/видео.html
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-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform thank you very much
Did you loose cruise control after installing the LED third brake light? I read a comment mentioning something like that. Thinking about converting my Grand Marquis to LED
Yo Dirty,
Thanks for watching, very good question.
That is very true, but it depends on model year.
My Vic is a 2004, and my Grand Marquis is a 2010.
I have LED's in both third brake lights, and both cruise controls function properly.
If I remember correctly it's the older model years.
I wanna say 1998-2002, or maybe even older.
I usually advise to buy LED bulbs from retailers that do not charge a re-stocking fee for returns for a bulb that does not function properly.
That usually means Walmart, or Amazon in my location.
I've had push back trying to return LED bulbs from ebay, AutoZone, O'Reilly, and Napa.
When I'm converting halogen, to LED I want to be able to do it hassle free, and at no risk of being stuck with a bulb that will not work for my application.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Thanks for the info! My Grand Marquis is a 2010 as well so hopefully it won't affect the cruise control.
Did you experience hyper flash when you installed the LED bulbs? or was it something that happened over time? I just installed the LED bulbs with no resistors and there's no hyper flashing. thinking of returning the resistors. could use the $30 for LED amber turn signals instead.
Yo Retro,
Thanks for watching.
It depends on the LED bulb.
I have experienced both issues you describe. In the end, they still required resistors to prevent hyperflash.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Cool thanks for the quick response chuck. Cheers!
there is another option is.... change out ur FLASHER UNIT that is made for LED's i did that on my 95 aerostar with all LEDS all around it got rid of the highper flash and "NO RESISTERS" too
Right on Aero,
Thanks for watching.
These cars do not use a replaceable flasher relay.
They use a Lighting Control Module (LCM).
So it's just a little more difficult, to install an LED compliant flasher relay.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform ok thanks for the info
If I already have resisters for my front amber leds would I also need resisters for the back lights too?
Right on H,
Thanks for watching.
Unfortunately yes.
You need a resistor for every turn signal bulb you replace with an LED, (6 total, 2 front, 4 rear).
I no longer recomend using resistors to fix hyperflash.
I recomend using a single Electronic LED Compliant flasher as seen here; ruclips.net/video/njQoWTsfBuk/видео.html
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-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform witch plug are the resisters connected to? It’s kinda hard to tell and it looks like both are connected to the same clamp
@@heisenbergII
Not sure what you're talking about.
Please do your research, and know what you're doing. Read the instructions for the resistors.
If you make an electrical mistake you can start a fire, and burn your car down.
@@PanzerPlatform I ended up getting it installed properly however the right turn signal still has hyper flash
Chuck, my wife is starting to dislike you 😜😜
Hey Mark,
Thanks for stopping by.
Tell her she can start a support group with my ex's. lol
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform LMFAO You are the best.
@@midgetmayo
Hey Midget,
Thanks for stopping by.
-Chuck