A few other guys to add to the list: Wade Miley, 2012-Was actually a rookie this year, and a damn good one. Came in second in ROY voting. No-hit my Indians recently, and may make a second All-Star team this year. Nate McLouth, 2008-One of many forgotten Pirate All-stars of their wilderness years, he was a pretty good ballplayer, making an All-Star team and winning a gold glove this year. It could be argued in hindsight that his defense was overrated due to sabremetrics finding him to have far below average range, but he still had a phenomenal year at the plate. Mike Williams, 2002 & 2003-A 2-time All-Star, is on here because not only is he forgotten, but in 2003, he was maybe the worst All-Star of all time. Unfortunately, Baseball-Reference doesn't separate between 1st and 2nd halves, luckily, he was traded just after the All-Star break to Philly from Pittsburgh. His stats in Pittsburgh: 1-3 with a 6.27 ERA and 25 saves, and a WAR of -0.8. Yuck. Rather than send him to the All-Star game, I'd be sending him to Triple or even Double A. Brock Holt, 2015-Hit for the cycle that year, and then famously became the only player to do so in Postseason history in 2018. Jason Castro, 2013-Had a great year for the worst team in Astros history in getting to his only All-Star team, hitting .276 with 18 HRs and 56 RBIs and 4.2 WAR. Unfortunately, he stagnated after that and could never get back to that form. I could go further, but you get the point: there's many forgotten All-Stars, or at least guys people forget were All-Stars.
I like the story about how Nate McLouth made the effort to learn, and apparently, to become fluent in the dialect of Spanish spoken by his Dominican teammates, just so he could be a better teammate. I don’t speak Spanish, so I can’t personally attest to his fluency, but his teammates seemed impressed and appreciative: ruclips.net/video/W08B_Cqiblo/видео.html
@@thegoat2210 I'm not saying he wasn't a good ballplayer. I'm just saying that, in the modern era, outside of maybe Pat Seerey in 1948, Gennett was quite possibly the least likely guy to hit 4-HRs in a game and actually do it. And even Seerey had a lot of power for his day; he just struck out a TON.
I remember him. Dude was slugging and kept eventual Cubs legend Anthony Rizzo stuck at Iowa for a bit due to his ridiculous clubbing of the ball. Eventually the Cubs called up Rizzo when LaHair started to struggle and moved to the outfield with pretty poor results. I think LaHair eventually went to Japan after his MLB days and couldn't find consistency in the majors anymore.
My favorite is Derrick Turnbow, mainly because he had an ERA over 9.00 after the all star break. So he was an all star in a season where his final ERA was well over 6.00
I looked him up & he already had a 4.74 ERA by the all-star game! Most people probably thought "How is this guy an all-star?" when his stats came on screen.
Man, I remember Cahill very fondly from his time with the cubs. It was a breath of fresh air to see us take a chance with him and see him have success. A part of a very fun 2015 squad and even helped a bit in 16 getting a legendary ring
Eduardo Nunez, love that dude. Red Sox fan, he showed up to play everyday, even when he probably should've sat. Dudes knees were falling apart on him. I remember in particular one at bat where he just struggled to get through it because his knees were in rough shape. You could see it on his face and how he moved his legs. Tough guy for sure.
Pleased to see Saunders on here! A boy from my city! Him being selected to the all-star team was a proud for our baseball nation. I know that me and many other Canadians voted like crazy to get him on the squad!
Video series idea: reverse split smashers You go over a couple semi-unknown players who were way better against their same handedness pitchers in career rather than the opposite handedness (which is against what you would normally expect)
I remember when they signed him I was like holy shit they really want a ring 😂 like I remember thinking that, that Arizona team was gonna go far for some reason lol
Regarding Michael Saunders. The Jays pushed HARD for the fanbase to vote for him. Being himself Canadian, the fanbase was really behind Saunders and made it happen. Source : I'm a Canadian Jays fan
a suggestion would be derek norris of the athletics. he was never very good but had 1 strange all star season and then returned to being a below average player.
Growing up in toronto with that stellar and exciting bluejays roster, Michael Saunders was legitimately one of my favorite players in the majors. I had his jersey, a bobblehead, autographs, cards, he was awesome.
One guy that could be a forgotten allstar could be Justin Duchscherer of the Oakland Athletics. Sure he won it twice so I'm not too surprised he wasnt on here, but I'm sure if you were to mention his name, no one would know who you'd be talking about
Ron Coomer deserves a shout out in a video like this, dude looked like a furniture salesman on a beer league softball team and had the biggest “happy to be here” grin on his face at the ‘99 All-Star Game
the only reason I know Trevor Cahill was an all star is cuz of OOTP, I come across him often for some weird reason also his FIP that year he was an all star was 4.19, so most people were surprised but if people looked a little deeper they'd understand why he never matched that year.
Spot on - he was a sinker baller with a low strikeout rate; plus, he threw a lot of innings real young, I think he was only 22 that All Star year Basically, everything was pointing to a downfall, if you know what to look for
As a Red Sox fan, I believe that Brock Holts 2015 all star season and Steven Wright (the knuckleballer) in 2016 are pretty forgotten all star seasons if you decide to do a part 2
@@JollyOlive I’m going to leave my comment up bc I’m embarrassed and deserve it lol, I was watching the vid with low volume when I was getting ready this morning. Respect for the great videos tho 🔥
Hey Jolly! This is a good video idea. Thanks for the content. Also, I left a video idea in the comments of your last stream, could you tell me what you think? If not thats fine :) Have a good day
Derrick Turnbow: All Star in 2006, maybe one of the WORST all star seasons of all time, posted a 6.87 ERA in 64 games, but managed to amass 24 saves. Had a war of -2.4. Aaron Cook: Considering his teams home field had a higher elevation than Shipett stadium, he did fairly well, 16-9, 3.96 era, but had only 96 Ks in 211 IP 😯 Everth Cabrera: Now this was a name I have not heard of in a while! 2013 all star, .287 average with 4 homers and 31 rbis, stole 37 bags, not too shabby. Kyle Freeland: He hasn’t really been the same since 2018; rough 2019 (3-11, 6.73 ERA in 22 starts) and a mediocre 2020 and 21 (not bad for a Rockies pitcher tho), but had an incredible (17-7, 2.85 ERA, 4th in cy young voting) season all things considered.
I remember Eduardo Nunez because I went to a Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees game shortly before his call-up. They're not the same memories of seeing former Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Red Barons on the 2008 World Series champion Phillies (Chase Utley on my 8th birthday and Ryan Howard on a school field trip) or even Gleyber Torres the day before he got called up, but memories nonetheless.
I'm watching an old baseball game from 2004 and I found a true gen for this list. Junior spivey won a ring, named to the all-star game a year later and 3 years after that out of the leavue
Milton Bradley could've made this list too. He started in the 2008 All-Star Game for the American League, it was the only All-Star selection of his career.
Eduardo Nunez was my favorite player when he was on the Red Sox and I was at his 2 home run game in 2017 and at WS game 1 when he hit the 3 run homer so I feel like I was responsible for those moments
Evan Meek is also the pitcher who gave up Derek Jeter's final home hit Also would be cool if you could do a video on guys who didn't really deserve to be there but were there cause of the rule that every team needs a rep. Edit: Never mind, you mentioned the hit. Scrolled through the vid trying to see the names and didn't see footage lol. Can't believe the guy was an All-Star.
New to the channel but if you haven't made a video on this, cozart is a great kickstart to this video idea; Mediocre players who cashed in on free agency or Below average players with above average contracts due to walk year success! I wouldn't know how to title it haha
On top of all the great things Cozart got in his all star season. He also got a donkey from Votto for making the all star team. Could probably do a video like this based solely on Reds. Jack Armstrong, Alfredo Simon, Felipe Lopez, just off the top of my head. Nice series though.
(5:02) i think the most impressive fact of THE ENTIRE VIDEO is that he was arrested with 20 bricks and only got 3yrs🤔 and after googling apparently his late wife was a popular Mexican singer who was one of the first females that sang Narcocorridos(Spanish songs that basically give shout outs and praises to the cartels)apparently she was really plugged in😅
I was so hyped when the Yankees traded for Loaiza. Fun fact Esteban was married to a Mexican-American mega-pop star Jenni Rivera, before her death in a plane crash. E. Nunez! Us Yankee fans always dogged him for his defense. Hence the E. Nunez nickname. We did love that his helmet seemed to fly off everytime he ran,
An inevitable consequence of the rule that every team has to have an All-Star. Some teams don't have MLB-quality players, but the best of the worst is still an All-Star.
Ron Coomer, 1999 - Made the All-Star Game with an OPS+ of 82. Granted, SOMEONE on that godawful 1999 squad needed to be selected as a representative, but the fact that they picked Coomer and not Brad Radke (second-best bWAR among pitchers that year) will never not be hilarious to me.
What about 2x allstar Scott Cooper? Somehow he got Boston's charity slot in '93 over both Mo Vaughn and Danny Darwin (having probably the best year of his career)?
Love you and your work. I wish somebody would mix us up into some concrete and pour us into a deep hole so we could just talk baseball and never have to worry about anything.
How dare you think that I would forget the legend himself Eduardo Nunez
@Chris King No, that will always be known as Bartolo Colon
"Pinch Hit 3 Run Home Run, Nunez!"
- Boe Juck
A few other guys to add to the list:
Wade Miley, 2012-Was actually a rookie this year, and a damn good one. Came in second in ROY voting. No-hit my Indians recently, and may make a second All-Star team this year.
Nate McLouth, 2008-One of many forgotten Pirate All-stars of their wilderness years, he was a pretty good ballplayer, making an All-Star team and winning a gold glove this year. It could be argued in hindsight that his defense was overrated due to sabremetrics finding him to have far below average range, but he still had a phenomenal year at the plate.
Mike Williams, 2002 & 2003-A 2-time All-Star, is on here because not only is he forgotten, but in 2003, he was maybe the worst All-Star of all time. Unfortunately, Baseball-Reference doesn't separate between 1st and 2nd halves, luckily, he was traded just after the All-Star break to Philly from Pittsburgh. His stats in Pittsburgh: 1-3 with a 6.27 ERA and 25 saves, and a WAR of -0.8. Yuck. Rather than send him to the All-Star game, I'd be sending him to Triple or even Double A.
Brock Holt, 2015-Hit for the cycle that year, and then famously became the only player to do so in Postseason history in 2018.
Jason Castro, 2013-Had a great year for the worst team in Astros history in getting to his only All-Star team, hitting .276 with 18 HRs and 56 RBIs and 4.2 WAR. Unfortunately, he stagnated after that and could never get back to that form.
I could go further, but you get the point: there's many forgotten All-Stars, or at least guys people forget were All-Stars.
I like the story about how Nate McLouth made the effort to learn, and apparently, to become fluent in the dialect of Spanish spoken by his Dominican teammates, just so he could be a better teammate. I don’t speak Spanish, so I can’t personally attest to his fluency, but his teammates seemed impressed and appreciative: ruclips.net/video/W08B_Cqiblo/видео.html
Damn...you beat me to Brocky Brock Red Sox Holt....thats the first one that jumped in my mind
looked up mclouth and holy crap, he won a gold glove with -2.1 dWAR.... that's gotta be around a record for worst dWAR to win a gold glove doesn't it?
ill drop the biggest wtf all star, 09 Zach Duke, 4.0 era, 16 loses, 200ip, 110ks
Wade and Castro aren't surprising
Can add Scooter Gennett to that Red's forgotten all-star team too!
Also quite possibly the least likely 4-HR game guy ever. At least in the modern era. Like seriously? Scooter Gennett?
@@RealBlueony Idk man, scooter gennett was legit for a few years. Surprised he hasn’t played since 2019
@@thegoat2210 I'm not saying he wasn't a good ballplayer. I'm just saying that, in the modern era, outside of maybe Pat Seerey in 1948, Gennett was quite possibly the least likely guy to hit 4-HRs in a game and actually do it. And even Seerey had a lot of power for his day; he just struck out a TON.
Scooter was a stud
Former Brewer great Scooter Gennett
Gotta add Brian LaHair to a list of forgotten All-Stars.
who?
@@TP35YT exactly
I remember him.
Dude was slugging and kept eventual Cubs legend Anthony Rizzo stuck at Iowa for a bit due to his ridiculous clubbing of the ball.
Eventually the Cubs called up Rizzo when LaHair started to struggle and moved to the outfield with pretty poor results.
I think LaHair eventually went to Japan after his MLB days and couldn't find consistency in the majors anymore.
@@YaowBucketHEAD he went to Indy ball first in the atlantic league, then went to korea if memory serves
Alfredo Simon was an all-star with the Reds in 2014.
My favorite is Derrick Turnbow, mainly because he had an ERA over 9.00 after the all star break. So he was an all star in a season where his final ERA was well over 6.00
I looked him up & he already had a 4.74 ERA by the all-star game! Most people probably thought "How is this guy an all-star?" when his stats came on screen.
That Michael Saunders, Franklin Gutierrez and Ichiro Seattle outfield was real fun to watch
shoutout to Steve Delabar who was the last man voted in on the AL in 2013
Yosmany Tomas hit 30 hr with the d-backs in 2016 and hasn’t been the same since maybe next vid
I'll never forget the GOAT Trevor Cahill
Yep
Man, I remember Cahill very fondly from his time with the cubs. It was a breath of fresh air to see us take a chance with him and see him have success. A part of a very fun 2015 squad and even helped a bit in 16 getting a legendary ring
Eduardo Nunez, love that dude. Red Sox fan, he showed up to play everyday, even when he probably should've sat. Dudes knees were falling apart on him. I remember in particular one at bat where he just struggled to get through it because his knees were in rough shape. You could see it on his face and how he moved his legs. Tough guy for sure.
Pleased to see Saunders on here! A boy from my city! Him being selected to the all-star team was a proud for our baseball nation. I know that me and many other Canadians voted like crazy to get him on the squad!
Video series idea: reverse split smashers
You go over a couple semi-unknown players who were way better against their same handedness pitchers in career rather than the opposite handedness (which is against what you would normally expect)
I remember Micharl Saunders and I think I was actually in Canada part of that summer
I remember mainly because my buddy is a jays fan
I remember when they signed him I was like holy shit they really want a ring 😂 like I remember thinking that, that Arizona team was gonna go far for some reason lol
Regarding Michael Saunders.
The Jays pushed HARD for the fanbase to vote for him. Being himself Canadian, the fanbase was really behind Saunders and made it happen.
Source : I'm a Canadian Jays fan
a suggestion would be derek norris of the athletics. he was never very good but had 1 strange all star season and then returned to being a below average player.
Yooooo thanks for using my Eduardo Nunez suggestion!!
Another banger as always! Thanks for putting a smile on my face and brightening my day!
Growing up in toronto with that stellar and exciting bluejays roster, Michael Saunders was legitimately one of my favorite players in the majors. I had his jersey, a bobblehead, autographs, cards, he was awesome.
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@@JollyOlive wheres the norm video
You want a guest feature? Im outlining it now
Video suggestion: Francisco Rodriguez's forgotten 60 save season. I hope he gets into the Hall of Fame
This is p good
Sarcasm?
One guy that could be a forgotten allstar could be Justin Duchscherer of the Oakland Athletics. Sure he won it twice so I'm not too surprised he wasnt on here, but I'm sure if you were to mention his name, no one would know who you'd be talking about
Miguel montero(2014), justin Smoak, ricky Romero, adam duvall, grant Balfour, and ross stripling
Another name would be Vincente Padilla. Both him and Randy Wolf were aces of the Phillies in the early 2000s
Randy Wolf is my favorite pitcher of all time😍😍😍
Ron Coomer deserves a shout out in a video like this, dude looked like a furniture salesman on a beer league softball team and had the biggest “happy to be here” grin on his face at the ‘99 All-Star Game
Ah Cozart……another great Angels signing by the front office #pain
Could’ve had mike moustakas to play third for cheap that offseason
Don’t forget we also signed Trevor Cahil too
2018 miles mikolas is a good, but recent one. he was on my fantasy team that year
Most forgotten all star of the 2000’s has to be Gil meche. Expect to see him in volume 2
Zack Greinke’s mentor
I remember the guy because of how the Yankees used to blow chances to score off the guy in the early 2000s.
This channel is awesome!!! keep it up
the only reason I know Trevor Cahill was an all star is cuz of OOTP, I come across him often for some weird reason
also his FIP that year he was an all star was 4.19, so most people were surprised but if people looked a little deeper they'd understand why he never matched that year.
Spot on - he was a sinker baller with a low strikeout rate; plus, he threw a lot of innings real young, I think he was only 22 that All Star year
Basically, everything was pointing to a downfall, if you know what to look for
As a Red Sox fan, I believe that Brock Holts 2015 all star season and Steven Wright (the knuckleballer) in 2016 are pretty forgotten all star seasons if you decide to do a part 2
Fun piece of trivia! Evan Meek was the pitcher on the mound for Jeter’s walk off RBI in his last game at Yankee Stadium
I say that in the video lul
@@JollyOlive I’m going to leave my comment up bc I’m embarrassed and deserve it lol, I was watching the vid with low volume when I was getting ready this morning. Respect for the great videos tho 🔥
Hey Jolly! This is a good video idea. Thanks for the content. Also, I left a video idea in the comments of your last stream, could you tell me what you think? If not thats fine :) Have a good day
Keep up the good work Olive
Derrick Turnbow: All Star in 2006, maybe one of the WORST all star seasons of all time, posted a 6.87 ERA in 64 games, but managed to amass 24 saves. Had a war of -2.4.
Aaron Cook: Considering his teams home field had a higher elevation than Shipett stadium, he did fairly well, 16-9, 3.96 era, but had only 96 Ks in 211 IP 😯
Everth Cabrera: Now this was a name I have not heard of in a while! 2013 all star, .287 average with 4 homers and 31 rbis, stole 37 bags, not too shabby.
Kyle Freeland: He hasn’t really been the same since 2018; rough 2019 (3-11, 6.73 ERA in 22 starts) and a mediocre 2020 and 21 (not bad for a Rockies pitcher tho), but had an incredible (17-7, 2.85 ERA, 4th in cy young voting) season all things considered.
My dad and I used to call Cahill "Meatball" in AZ, not because he's tubby, but because he couldnt avoid the middle of the dish lol
7:45 That A's uniform...ouch! I love the yellow jersey. But matching pants??? Yeesh.
2014 Eric Aybar (SS) and 2015 Hector Santiago (P) are a few random Angels All Stars from recents years
Tommy LaStella belongs on that list of Mike Trout’s legendary teammates.
loved Aybar, met him at a triple-a game once and got a picture with him
Good ol Tim Wakefield in 2009
I remember Eduardo Nunez because I went to a Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees game shortly before his call-up. They're not the same memories of seeing former Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Red Barons on the 2008 World Series champion Phillies (Chase Utley on my 8th birthday and Ryan Howard on a school field trip) or even Gleyber Torres the day before he got called up, but memories nonetheless.
Steven Wright is probably a good example of this as well
Jordan Walden - Angels (2011)
Jack Cust needs to be in one of these videos
I'm watching an old baseball game from 2004 and I found a true gen for this list.
Junior spivey won a ring, named to the all-star game a year later and 3 years after that out of the leavue
Great vid!!
Domonic Brown in 2013. He had 1 good month of May, made the all star team, then his production fell off a cliff.
Jesse Crain, Dominic Brown, Everth Cabrera, Jason Castro, Marco Scutaro, Steve Delabar, Jeff Locke
Devin Mesoraco DAMN
Milton Bradley could've made this list too. He started in the 2008 All-Star Game for the American League, it was the only All-Star selection of his career.
George Sherill. And his clutch pitching in the 08 ASG
Eduardo Nunez was my favorite player when he was on the Red Sox and I was at his 2 home run game in 2017 and at WS game 1 when he hit the 3 run homer so I feel like I was responsible for those moments
If you do another one of these you should add daniel vogelbach
I really think that has more to do with the 2019 Mariners than it does to him.
Evan Meek is also the pitcher who gave up Derek Jeter's final home hit
Also would be cool if you could do a video on guys who didn't really deserve to be there but were there cause of the rule that every team needs a rep.
Edit: Never mind, you mentioned the hit. Scrolled through the vid trying to see the names and didn't see footage lol. Can't believe the guy was an All-Star.
New to the channel but if you haven't made a video on this, cozart is a great kickstart to this video idea; Mediocre players who cashed in on free agency or Below average players with above average contracts due to walk year success! I wouldn't know how to title it haha
Joe Jimenez, he is not great now and had a few great months on those really bad Tigers teams
On top of all the great things Cozart got in his all star season. He also got a donkey from Votto for making the all star team. Could probably do a video like this based solely on Reds. Jack Armstrong, Alfredo Simon, Felipe Lopez, just off the top of my head. Nice series though.
(5:02) i think the most impressive fact of THE ENTIRE VIDEO is that he was arrested with 20 bricks and only got 3yrs🤔 and after googling apparently his late wife was a popular Mexican singer who was one of the first females that sang Narcocorridos(Spanish songs that basically give shout outs and praises to the cartels)apparently she was really plugged in😅
Evan Meek grooved the pitch to Jeter. I will die in this hill
I don’t want to hear the name Zack Cozart ever again
Ha ha you have trev in the thumbnail. I sat next to him in Physics and Calc Senior year in HS.
Awesome video keep it up
Bro you make great videos any advice ??
Damn I do remember Mesoraco.....he just vanished!
Aaron Crow comes to my mind
Love this guy
I was so hyped when the Yankees traded for Loaiza. Fun fact Esteban was married to a Mexican-American mega-pop star Jenni Rivera, before her death in a plane crash.
E. Nunez! Us Yankee fans always dogged him for his defense. Hence the E. Nunez nickname. We did love that his helmet seemed to fly off everytime he ran,
Loiza used to be my favorite player. It still breaks my heart thinking about how his life turned out
The only thing I remember him for is giving that walkoff hit to Big Papi
Greetings from 2022...be on the lookout for T. Cahill becoming the greatest pitching coach to ever do it!!
Jeff Locke is one that people forget from the 2013 All Stars. He was never that good in his career
How about 2011 Jordan Walden?
Everybody truly forget Mark Redman. That year the Royals needed a representation so he made the All-star.
great channel
Loaiza I remember watching him in Newark with the bears
An inevitable consequence of the rule that every team has to have an All-Star. Some teams don't have MLB-quality players, but the best of the worst is still an All-Star.
Texas traded Loaiza to TOR for Michael Young. Arguably the greatest Ranger of all time
Sorry I’m late I had a double header, but another person can be brad brach?
Derrick Turnbow in 2006 for the brewers
Odd option - Billy Grabarkewitz, the Lucky (1970)
I have an estaban loiza white Sox bobble head. One of my proudest possessions
Ron Coomer, 1999 - Made the All-Star Game with an OPS+ of 82. Granted, SOMEONE on that godawful 1999 squad needed to be selected as a representative, but the fact that they picked Coomer and not Brad Radke (second-best bWAR among pitchers that year) will never not be hilarious to me.
2011 Kevin Correia
Eduardo Nunez played briefly in Taiwan in 2021.
I remember Esteban Loaiza, Eduardo Nunez, Trevor Cahill
Is it bad that I remember all these guys?
Brock Holt wasn't just a final vote guy. He was the lone red sox all star one season somehow. Musta been a down year like 2015
What about 2x allstar Scott Cooper? Somehow he got Boston's charity slot in '93 over both Mo Vaughn and Danny Darwin (having probably the best year of his career)?
He's a bit too recent to have been forgotten, but Mike Foltynewicz (2018) for the Braves in his one good full season.
Love you and your work. I wish somebody would mix us up into some concrete and pour us into a deep hole so we could just talk baseball and never have to worry about anything.
This is an all time top 10 comment
Brandon Miss deserves to be on the list!
How about Ross Stripling in 2018?
I was gonna ask u this for a video forgot to request glad I did not have to lol 😂😂😂😂😆😆😆
Can't believe it is already that time. Wow.
Do you think our Mets make a splash at the TD?
I thought Evan Meek was a future great closer. I remember watching his first save and writing the line down because I thought he was a stud.
Video idea... All time one time all-star team
someone needs to learn him how to put a curve in his cap!
ken harvey from the royals in 2004
Zach Duke is an even bigger wtf all star!! dude led the league is losses, and had an era over 4 from that same 09 pirates
Jeff Locke is another one
I for sure thought that Nate McLouth was gonna be on this list