HD: 4/13/15 CSX Train Derailment In O'Fallon, IL
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2015
- On Monday April 13, 2015 CSX Q204-12 derailed while entering the siding in O'Fallon, IL. Between 7-9 cars loaded with pickup trucks derailed off the tracks, but didn't fall on their side. I didn't know a train derailed in O'Fallon, IL. The derailment must've happened between 11am-12pm while I was on my way to my girlfriends house to go fishing. But like I said I didn't know a train derailed while going into the siding until I heard a train crew tell the CSX Dispatcher that 7-9 cars are on the ground. UP 8932 was the leader on CSX Q204-12. Later on that afternoon my girlfriend and I went to the derailment sight to get pictures and video of the RJ Corman crew cleaning up the mess. An eastbound CSX train which was CSX K803-12 which is a Phosphate or Molten Sulfur train was tied down west of O'Fallon, IL. They got done cleaning up the derailment around 10:30pm. The first train to run was the CSX K803-12 which probably came through O'Fallon around 11:30 that night and CSX Q204-12 which was the train that derailed in O'Fallon, IL changed to X204-14. CSX X204-14 probably left O'Fallon around 4am. That was my first time seeing a derailment in person.
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RJCorman are the pros in handling derailments,my hats off to them.
Looks like a mess at first but those guys will have those racks on their way in no time.
Wow this is interesting how they can do that.
To think, RJ Corman started with a young kid with a pickup truck and a dream.
And tons of smarts.
Knew RJ WELL. HE WAS A GOOD MAN. GREAT LOSS WHEN HE PASSED.
My son was operating the Cat on the right.
Coooooooooooooooooool
Wow 👏
Yes RJ Corman Did A Great Job On This Derailment Hats Off To Them👍
I believe that if you set up a roach coach at these derailment sites that sold cigarette's along with food, and drinks; you could retire in a couple of years.
I'll attest to that.
When I was a kid, about 16 or 17, I did running to the local C-store (convenience store) for the guys that were doing major right-of-way work tk one of the local mainlines. (We had four back then)
I made a lot of extra money in those weeks.
If I had been over 18 at the time, I probably would have made more, and the maintenance crews probably would have gotten the work done a bit faster.
The alcohol crap, and I do mean CRAP, didn't have such a hard hit back then.
WOW! That's an amazing process they have to perform and very time consuming, thank you for the great footage - I Liked & Subscribed 😎👍
Interesting watching them rerail the cars. Thanks for posting!
Thanks Nick! Great video.
Great job. Professional quality video! Awesome insight.
Interesting video! Thank you. Could they not allow the molten sulfur train to pass on the other track?
Derailed cars in foul of the other train? Were any pickups damaged?
wow i never would have thought the suspension travel was that great on the cars.
That is so ironic because it derailed in O'fallen! XD
O’Fallon off the rails! Lol great video!
Great to see Professionals at work !
I could watch this for hours.
Great video....
One thing that puzzles me about American railways is the loading gauge... The trains just seem too big for the track...
They are not to big, for the track, it's just if you fo to fast in a curve you'll derail.
They are not to big, for the track, it's just if you fo to fast in a curve you'll derail.
This is no job for the faint of heart. Congratulations and best wishes to those who do the hard and dangerous work.
Which method of running a railroad is cheaper?
A.) Having RJ Corman re-rail your trains?
B.) Railbed maintenance?
A
Sometimes it's A. Sometimes doing B will still cost you A. Not everything is black and white.
With tens of thousands of miles to maintain out in the elements with human and mechanical failure always a possibility, more answers are needed than your simple A and B
Yep and PTC's not going to fix B.
@@maxshelltrack6131 PTC was never meant to fix 'B'. Surely you know that. Don't you?
You would think that as they cleared the cars, they would break the track at the rail joints, temporarily stand it back up, temporarily spike it down, so that they didn't have to drag the cars so far along. That has got to be bad on the wheel sets.
They need to make a rail shackle to put at the head of the split. This will keep the split from expanding down the line as the drag the stock back onto the rail.
RJ Corman is a awesome company! See them a lot here in Decatur, IL but it’s their switching division I believe.
Great video. There's one thing that I don't understand. When I had a railroad and rolling stock went off the track a giant hand would come down from the sky to put the rolling stock back on the track. I don't know why these people don't use a giant hand from the sky to do the same. :D
EdWittenable very funny it certainly would be faster cleanup.
Yeah, model railroaders call it the “0-5-0 switcher”! 😁
@@williamsquires3070 yeah, or in the UK we call it "the hand of God".....! Alan
Great video!
GREAT VIDEO!!!
Usually, derailments like this are due to poor maintenance. I have seen many loose spikes (which hold the rail down on ties) that need re-hammering to secure the rail better. I can imagine those cars with all that weight going down that slight slope on a switch with loose rail spikes flipped the rail over. That's my best bet of that happened.
+Bassotronics I guarantee that when a train derails, the railroad isn't thinking poor maintenance as the cause. The FIRST thing they do is piss test the crew. Railroads are ready and willing to give the crew a rip and blame it on "human error".
+Bassotronics How about concrete sleepers? There are fully automated machines to replace sleepers. Just run one of these down the line.
Richard van Pukkem
Some subways use concrete sleepers.
Bassotronics I have never seen a subway with wooden sleepers ;-) Here in Europe at least in every single country it's all concrete. Often not even sleepers, but just rail straight onto the concrete floor.
This line through O'Fallon has since been closed by CSX. Probably a good thing considering I was playing Pokemon GO with some friends on the tracks and I was able to pull a few spikes out with my hand with little effort..
better if adding 2 more lifter for avoiding extra damage on train
CSX has recently pulled up this siding. Line has been out of service since 2015.
CSX and a collapsed rail... Wonder if speed had anything to do with this derailment?
Now I know why derailments are so expensive.
That appears this occurred near Karl Place on the CSX Illinois Subdivision. It appears it occurred between the State Street [FRA Crossing Number 153041C] and Obemuefemann Road [FRA Crossing Number 153042J]. This is in the range of Mile Post 320, 321. and 322. I am a former quality auditor for a vendor of theirs.
What will normally happen after a derailment is the auto racks will be unloaded, the wheel sets off the cars will be removed, broken down and inspected. Repairs will be made to the components (wheels, bearings, e.t.c) then placed back into service. From the looks of the incident, when the train entered the siding, the first joint on the outer rail broke causing the rail to lie on its side causing the derailment. That is all I have at this time. I hope this helps.
A friend of mine got killed working for rj in illonois not to long ago. His older brother got him the job, then about 3 days later accidentally hit him with a crane hauling rail. he was pronounced dead on the scene. He was just 21 years old i think with a baby boy, life just sucks sometimes...
Great Teamwork for U.S. Railway Workers !!!!
Wow what is up with all these derailments man!?!?!?!?
Poor maintenance you can see were the track as just bent over a guess is loose rail spikes and on a straight peace of track
That is common at csx
Is this derailed on the mainline or the siding ?
This has to cost thousands of dollars per hour or maybe tens of thousands of dollars per hour with all of that manpower and heavy equipment.
They needed a couple more guys to make this more gooder!
At 13:50, I'm surprised they would drag the car with the truck like that. It looks like they're trying to cause further damage to it.
+trainmanj I'd guess they only had the two cranes. At that speed, very little damage *should* occur to the truck, and the rail is already toast.
you can learn a lot about hand signals from this, ground man 21:08 want pizza?... operator 21:09 yes please... operator 21:14 bring the pizza forward... Other ground man. 21:49 Only one slice left!
Show de bola parabéns
According to Google Maps it looks like the line has been abandoned
Good going CSX..
Union Pacific 2010 Fan
csx
It could have been my first time too but I didn’t go
I wonder how many of the pickup trucks got totalled inside the autoracks... ?
8:39 uhhh yeah not me buddy!
At least you got a swedish loader...
lol nice to know , that im not the only one who's gotta eat while working..!
I bet RJ Corman was having fun cleaning this up! :P
Rj corman.are the best!
Big problem!..
What caused that autorack train to derail
This looks just like the area here where I live in Ky.
wow... was it just the one rolling stock that derailed ?
Great video.
О! Tractor Volvo!
at 21:19 time for dinner!
They need a physgun to re-rail that..
So Kool love it rock and roll
Possible ugly day for the railroad if any the the cars are loaded and full of auto's that got damaged. Looking at it think that train was moving to fast to take that junction basically rolling the outer rail due to to much force.
Well they put together such long trains now days, so if you put a quarter on the rail and after train goes by, you must be careful coz that quarter will be hot to the touch. So OK with trains so long, just think of the heat buildup between rails and wheels, I think it eventually weakens the rails strength, after a while. It's just my option, I could be wrong. That and wash out areas under the ties when it rain also. After all a Lotta weight, steel to steel, plus long long trains can build up a Lotta heat. Or inspect all rails more often.
Well they put together such long trains now days, so if you put a quarter on the rail and after train goes by, you must be careful coz that quarter will be hot to the touch. So OK with trains so long, just think of the heat buildup between rails and wheels, I think it eventually weakens the rails strength, after a while. It's just my option, I could be wrong. That and wash out areas under the ties when it rain also. After all a Lotta weight, steel to steel, plus long long trains can build up a Lotta heat.
Suprised The axles didnt come loose out of the trucks when it was rising dont they just sit up in there
Curious why they only pick the cars up on one side (either front or back),. and than drag it for a while.. seems like they're destroying the tracks like that by having it bumping against the rails all the time
On Monday AUGUST 13,2015???.....WOW today is June 8,2015... I guess I can stop this accident from ever happening. .LOL.. JK great video:)
Is CSX self insured against such incidents?
My guess a regular insurance would be too expensive.
In general Class I railroads are self insured
Boy that track is in poor shape
Holy... Those tracks sure look worn down far faaar beyond the point of replacement. Isn't there any form of entity responsible for keeping tracks in shape? Who's responsible for allowing tracks to become this worn down? Seriously. I haven't seen tracks that bad even in developing countries.
That is some really specialized equipment right there. Bet you can't buy those things like that from a big name manufacturer. I wonder who they had make them?
Made by Caterpillar. Used for pipeline construction and train wrecks.
Wonder how much damage the vehicles inside sustained lol
for decades, the vehicles on board any transport vehicle that touches the ground, are destroyed.
That's a hard job great job everyone
I believe that track is now gone. Removed a few years ago. History.
The line is still there and track is intact. CSX downgraded the line as a thru route and took it out of service several months after this derailment occurred. It was however briefly used again for railcar storage in 2017. The railcars were subsequently removed in March 2019. This was the most recent train activity on the line.
Never understood why the wheels weren't made wider
Debbie Darrah I believe it has something to do with friction and loss of power,which means more locomotives and more fuel and more engineers to hire and so on.
There goes the rail
Good luck with your video
Coming soon: the Scratch and Dent sale at the Truck Dealership lot.
It sucks that all those vehicles in the loaded auto racks that hit the ground will be buried somewhere.
Buried?
+mathue taxion I'm not sure about other railroads, but the BNSF digs a big hole and buries any vehicles that are in an autorack car that hits the ground. It's a liability thing, I imagine most railroads in the US have a similar policy.
Perhaps prior to the mid 1980's this was done, but certainly not today. Condemned, crushed and recycled.
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That's no longer the practice. Cars are often donated to technical schools or disposed of by professional scrappers.
hey give a few of them to me---i'll take a chance on em :)
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thank to all trains workers are doing great jobs and safety on the track...
but wood blocks are not good and not safety...
better must use all cement / concrete blocks on the track
Depends on where they are used and what they are used for. To say they are 'not good' and 'not safety' is in many cases simply flat out wrong.
must have been at this time when CSX began making decision to decommission the tracks and the line from Vincennes all the way into St Louis...
Do you know if the csx will open up that line again I would like to know thank you for your time
@@tonystarr8275 Tony, I've got a feeling because it's such a slow line compared to the other one that they use that you're probably going to see a rails to trail within the next few years. not only that you have no industry on the line to be served between their there's no factories or warehouses pretty much nothing and the track speed is so slow that you can't even like detour intermodal's on there and roll em through like Express..
it basically as it stands and has stood now with that last piece of industry gone along the line it is impractical in the year 2020
and with absolutely no industry to serve on it it wouldn't even make any sense for somebody like wabco or the Orange is the New Black Genesee & Wyoming to even come and try to buy it..
and where it goes through it's not even worth a Scenic like tourist railroad there's nothing to see on the thing
The wagons are much too heavy for the track; note how badly distorted it is-collapsed over onto its side.
Loaded autoracks are not that heavy
@@cdavid8139 Oh, they just look heavy.
@@davidbutterworth5258 They are not exactly light....but wood like this weighs out lighter than many bulk products. At this speed even the heavier cars are fine for slow speed branch line operations.
Trucks up for auction
R J CORMAN TO TRAINS IS LIKE RED ADAIR IS TO OIL 🔥 FIRES👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🔥
I've o'fallon and I can't get up
Tip a car carrier and the insurance man has a nervous break-down.
What insurance man?
The train has o'fallon
What the hell
Would have been smarter to keep the train on the tracks to start with. Not efficient at all to pull it with a tractor.
This is supposed to be a first world country lol
It is.
vehicles in auto racks that are salvageable can they be auctioned off?
Peterson Anson Nope because of insurance issues..also the railroad is forced to buy every car. They in turn scrap everything because they can't sell it.
Vehicles are still owned by the company that made or bought them. They make the decision. In a derailment like this many of the cars will just go on. The cars are upright and secured in place. There will be an inspection and a decision made. Usually if there is any doubt whatsoever the railroad pays for the automobiles and they go to a professional scrapper. They will never be auctioned off however (at least in 2016 environment)
All the vehicles in derailed autoracks are written off by the manufacturer and either scrapped or used for firefighting/rescue training, even if the autoracks remained upright. As thetrainguy said, it's for insurance purposes; they won't knowingly put a potentially damaged vehicle on the road, because there might be damage that can't be discovered in a physical inspection.
@@tiladx not true. They will be repaired if possible. Only if there is A pillar damage will they scrap the cars. Railroads are self insured. They will buy the vehicles at scrap value and destroy them via an outside company. Repaired vehicles are billed back to the Carrier.
@John Siever I've got 20+ years of dealing with this. I know exactly what happens to them.
8:10 not givin a fuck
See what happens when you leave a penny on the track Kids?
Excuse me, I need a doughnut...
csx fast trans gates down get day
The hobo in one of those rn
I guess they don't inspect the tracks too often !! Those guy's working !! Did they just hire them off the street ? Jesus they all look lost ! lol
Typical BS railfan comment
I can't imagine how much RJ Corman charged for this..lol
Its approx. 8000.00 per hour. Cheaper to do with own employees, but CSX gets it as a tax write off.
8:55 Open hooks on a draw-chain? On a slope? No-one one the brake? No protection downhill for the other workers? I wouldn't trust this crowd of incompetents to empty water from a boot with the instructions printed on the sole.
+Anthony Smith sorry about the spelling. My enthusiasm got the better of me and I posted without checking. Must try harder in future. ;-)
So you can do a better job??
What a jackass. You know nothing, just assumptions. Go sit down, they know what they're doing.
That's enough stop being so mean to nlo114 what's the big deal about it?
The lake erie....division.....doesn't have this....happen.....ns....csx......wtfrig?
I don't how you did that but I'm azamed at it
Where in the world do you get experience to do what theses workers are acomplishing? 'VERY DANGEROUS JOB! c$100 BUCKS AN HR WOULDENT GET ME TO DO THAT!
You do have to stay alert. Bad things can happen quickly. But I've spent my career in the industry and love it.
Why didn't they bring in a track crew to fix the rails temporarily after re-railing 3 cars? Dragging the wheels and truck through that slag isn't good on the equipment. I hope those dozers had rubber blocks on their tracks.
They're pros. They know what they're doing.
@@cdavid8139 really? Then why did they buy that volvo front end loader? Caterpillar builds better equipment and keeps people working here in the US..
@@LuckyBaldwin777 Yes really
I love how everyone tells us how to do our jobs. Those wheels have to all be inspected anyways. Theres no additional damage being done.
@@LuckyBaldwin777 you're opinion and you dont pay the bills.
Kerjaan sembrono...indonesia..bangsanya pandai dan cepat klau urus kereta anjlok seperti itu.tidak seperti di video ini
i like train vidoes on youtube