She didn't save old cryo characters, but she still save cryo. Because now you have a reason to play forward melt and freeze again, which are teams that have cryo. You don't get the point of the vid.
@@adityadobhal8351 not necessarily. eula is getting a huge buff out of citlali. between shatter, supraconduct and freeze, eula was already one of my best char, in my "ice queen" team. with citlali, such a team is much better then my rosalia can make it. the electro is ei and the hydro is furina, if wondering, although nillou sometimes take furina's spot for the aqua rig, if the ennemies are hitting to hard, since furina would halves the teams health. also, if the ennemy is always with hydro applied (ex: hydro blobs), i either swap the hydro char for charlotte or for layla. it generaly depends if i need healing more then a shield, but layla's artefact make it so her burst buff the whole team, making her a support as well, which my charlotte ain't. still, if it's about buffing only, with citlali on the team, rosalia would do a better job at it hen layla.
Citlali feels very similar to Navia, both we're expected to quote on quote save their elements when they came out, but both chose alternative paths to make themselves stand out among their elements roster and find their own spot in the meta inspite of their element
Now I feel we just need an actual cryo subdps (high off field cryo dmg, all of the cryo off fielder units only have good application but low damage) to complete the cryo archetype. we have everything else
I wanted so badly to get mavuika. I pulled for citlali with the excuse that mavuika will rerun soon. I don't regret it now and now that I think of it I'm proud to make such a great decision (f2p with no special cryo units and no built cryo units).
me too, I already have some strong dps who can clear f12 and other contents easily so skipping mavuika now and wait until her rerun is not a big deal for me. I'm just happy that we finally got an awesome melt buffer
Huh, I thought they don't have much synergy. Mainly because hutao applies too much pyro, same case with yanfei. I do play her with Gaming tho. Every plunge can be melt unlike the pyro girls
@@RoseSmell2005 They can but only on the known double hydro (yelan,XQ,Furina) with Citlali as the flex slot. She definitely does not apply enough cryo to provide melt for Hu tao, and I even used layla with her and it's still not enough.
@@RoseSmell2005 I totally agree. To me the fast attacking pyro chars use make better use of vape than melt as we have very fast hydro application. Melt is for big nukes like mavuika which is why forward melt has been neglected she is the first to do that massive melt with little to no set up. I will use citlali with my arlechinno just because i like both but im rather sure i would get more value from Yelan or xingqiu. Also as a side note you could play Hu Tao with i guess by going and playing vape than sometimes melts. something along the lines of Hu Tao, Citlali, Yelan/Xingqiu and Furina that should do but is quite the premium team to have also nowadays people have Xilonen everywhere so yeah. Double Hydro due to Hu Taos Hp scaling of course
I can still clear abyss with my ayaka f2p dps lol she had smaller snapshot numbers but her overall dps is really good tho my team is an expensive one kazuha shenhe and kokomi so yea
I would give anything to get a cryo revival. At this point cryo is an insignificant element in the Meta. Please mihoyo for the love of liyue we need a fucking revival dammit.
I think she saved Cryo by just existing, since Cryo had been abandoned entirely from banners. Now we just have to wait another 400+ days for her rerun.
Citlali my baby is perfect 🥰🥰 I would consider myself lucky not having cryo dps, but have the support characters. Esp Granny Itzli. It's like she brought new meta for pyro dps
I feel like this is about a save for Cryo as Navia was for Geo.. It makes one use that specific character more do technically yes it boosts the element usage rate but doesnt help the overall units of the element
How exactly is Citlali replacing Shenhe. I keep seeing that sentiment but to me it doesnt make sense. Yes through cinder city you get 40 cryo dmg but thats kinda it no? I feel Shenhe provides way more with her resistance shred and Cryo specific dmg bonus. To me Xilonen makes more sense if you want a Natlan char in a Ayaka team.
she is not great tho, as sub dps she is little better then others, only thing that she do better then others is buff hyro and pyro, currently no hydro unit need her cause there are better units from her for support, diona give good amount of em rosiria give crit and good overall damage etc, cyro is dead till next region..
Got Mavuika first for her sick bike and then got (bought a lot of primogems) Citlali for her cutesy apperance and styles as well as the fact that she's cryo. I really love the cryo element like a lot even if the numbers aren't that good, I still love the characters that we have for them. (Aesthetic(?) over gameplay gamer)
She did NOT save Cryo as an element. She's only saved herself thanks to being from Natlan and having access to scroll set. Kaeya, Diona, Rosaria are also capable of fulfilling her role of cryo applier yet she's the only good one because of her access to a good set and powerful dps teammates like C6 Gaming, Arlecchino and Mahuika (that's it). She did nothing for cryo itself just herself
The only thing that would " save" cryo is if genshi made all their multipliers even. So you could do any elementla team you want. Having vape and melt be x2 dmg, but reverse melt be x1.5 dmg and hyperbloom being x3 dmg is already rewarding a specific type of playstyle that most people dont want anymore. Then trandformitive reactions based on level and em and additive reactions.... Not to mention underused ,physcial, plunge, or shatter type damage all make it so difficult to play more niche roles. Theres a whole wiki page on elemental guage theory that doesnt exist in any shape or form ingame and yet its so vital to making teams cooperate with elemental reactions!!! Id love it if all reactions were just equal. 👍and then i could play by shatterbloom teams for fun AND big dmg. Or not get told to switch from geo characters in co-op because its lame and doesnt synergize. A teams strength should be determined by how well you build that character... Not by what element or region patch they come out in 😢
Every cryo character can clear all content wdym....i dont get whats bad about cryo i use it to 36 star abyss and 10 star the theater Yall are just weird
Honestly people just wanna hate on all the elements. Cryo, geo (rightfully tbh), pyro, electro. The least hated are probably anemo and hydro, and maybe dendro Yet even with all that, every character that releases is called a must pull regardless of elemental type. It's such bs lol
It's not called saving an element, it's called powercreep even tho i don't like to use that word. Her being better and must pull doesn't incentivize to play cryo characters, it makes it so old characters are not good and new characters "fix" the stuff that old characters have "within themselves" and not for the whole game.
The thing is, cryo is just so terrible that Citlali being a pretty bad as a Natlan 5 star limited characther, its still pretty good comapred to other cryo character
yea the same way Mauvika Saves Claymore by totally ignoring Claymore 🙄 I am hoping Skirk actually saves Cryo -- IMO Mihoyo penalizes Cryo Main Dps too much for Freeze being possible, considering the hardest encounters in the game are totally immune to it
They really should make a new cryo dps ! I would love to see a male cryo driver with normal attacks similar to Heizou, with punches and stuff... but unfortunately hoyo will never do someone like this 👀
Honestly, melt ganyu can go crazy. Eula can go nuts but she needs c6 mika really and ideally raiden shogun. Ayaka is just locked into freeze thanks to her icd. Wrio is a decent dps but on a similar tier to ganyu
she didn't save cryo, she saved herself LOL
Can’t buff old people and expect them to square up to batman
She didn't save old cryo characters, but she still save cryo. Because now you have a reason to play forward melt and freeze again, which are teams that have cryo. You don't get the point of the vid.
@@pencilcase5201But the thing is you just need her for that team.
@@adityadobhal8351 not necessarily. eula is getting a huge buff out of citlali. between shatter, supraconduct and freeze, eula was already one of my best char, in my "ice queen" team. with citlali, such a team is much better then my rosalia can make it.
the electro is ei and the hydro is furina, if wondering, although nillou sometimes take furina's spot for the aqua rig, if the ennemies are hitting to hard, since furina would halves the teams health.
also, if the ennemy is always with hydro applied (ex: hydro blobs), i either swap the hydro char for charlotte or for layla. it generaly depends if i need healing more then a shield, but layla's artefact make it so her burst buff the whole team, making her a support as well, which my charlotte ain't. still, if it's about buffing only, with citlali on the team, rosalia would do a better job at it hen layla.
@@ericcardinal9138 What are you talking about brother as far as I know Mika is a better character in that team if I'm not missing something.
Citlali feels very similar to Navia, both we're expected to quote on quote save their elements when they came out, but both chose alternative paths to make themselves stand out among their elements roster and find their own spot in the meta inspite of their element
Chasca Too
xilonen too
@@prastarkumar6889 anemo definetly never needed saving lol
"How Citlali saves Cryo"
*Proceeds to describe how Cryo Units aren't good and Citlali is good because she's new, not because she's specifically Cryo.*
Thats what i was thinking the whole time. She's good because they made her fit the current meta with other natlan characters.
I wouldn’t necessarily call ganyu outdated in terms of numbers, especially with mav on her side, she had a massive resurgence now
Now I feel we just need an actual cryo subdps (high off field cryo dmg, all of the cryo off fielder units only have good application but low damage) to complete the cryo archetype. we have everything else
i actually run elegy ganyu with 200 er for my arle melt team LOL i'd say she has pretty great off field damage + app + 100% uptime
Me dumbing it down for myself: Citlali angy, everything blows up, especially with fire. 😂
That's Certified razor language right there
I wanted so badly to get mavuika. I pulled for citlali with the excuse that mavuika will rerun soon. I don't regret it now and now that I think of it I'm proud to make such a great decision (f2p with no special cryo units and no built cryo units).
me too, I already have some strong dps who can clear f12 and other contents easily so skipping mavuika now and wait until her rerun is not a big deal for me. I'm just happy that we finally got an awesome melt buffer
Yesh. That's a good mindset. Cryo will be rarer to rerun. Not mavuika.
I felt proud too, but then Mavuika showed up 22 wishes after Citlali
I chose her over Mavuika and i didn't regret it. Now i can play melt with my c1 Hu tao.
Huh, I thought they don't have much synergy. Mainly because hutao applies too much pyro, same case with yanfei.
I do play her with Gaming tho. Every plunge can be melt unlike the pyro girls
@@RoseSmell2005 They can but only on the known double hydro (yelan,XQ,Furina) with Citlali as the flex slot. She definitely does not apply enough cryo to provide melt for Hu tao, and I even used layla with her and it's still not enough.
@@RoseSmell2005 I totally agree. To me the fast attacking pyro chars use make better use of vape than melt as we have very fast hydro application. Melt is for big nukes like mavuika which is why forward melt has been neglected she is the first to do that massive melt with little to no set up. I will use citlali with my arlechinno just because i like both but im rather sure i would get more value from Yelan or xingqiu. Also as a side note you could play Hu Tao with i guess by going and playing vape than sometimes melts. something along the lines of Hu Tao, Citlali, Yelan/Xingqiu and Furina that should do but is quite the premium team to have also nowadays people have Xilonen everywhere so yeah. Double Hydro due to Hu Taos Hp scaling of course
I can still clear abyss with my ayaka f2p dps lol she had smaller snapshot numbers but her overall dps is really good tho my team is an expensive one kazuha shenhe and kokomi so yea
I would give anything to get a cryo revival. At this point cryo is an insignificant element in the Meta. Please mihoyo for the love of liyue we need a fucking revival dammit.
next region cryo meta soon
tbh, cryo's doing alr for the only element to not have its region or archon available
She only saved herself from going into the cryp garbage next to geo
I think she saved Cryo by just existing, since Cryo had been abandoned entirely from banners. Now we just have to wait another 400+ days for her rerun.
her c2 . Save my cyno lore
just like xilonen, she doesnt save their elements, but saved themself from their elements
*navia too
Citlali my baby is perfect 🥰🥰
I would consider myself lucky not having cryo dps, but have the support characters. Esp Granny Itzli. It's like she brought new meta for pyro dps
I will pull if mihoyo release cryo yelan/xingqiu
I spent everything i had saved after getting Mauvika to also get Citlali, I aint waiting another 1yr+ while she sits in cryo jail
I feel like this is about a save for Cryo as Navia was for Geo.. It makes one use that specific character more do technically yes it boosts the element usage rate but doesnt help the overall units of the element
She got me wanting to build qiqi for a ghost team with hu tao
Tbh the only cryo without a dedicated support is eula imagine if she had a five star physical dmg buffer
Hoyo hates the cryo element. They love hydro.
The biggest problem is Cryo is that they’re still in the closet cry(o)ing.
Coughs in Kaeya main
She saved pyro and hydro lol
Let’s hope she doesn’t get the cryo-curse
Mean while zenless only releasing ice characters
Citlali saved cryo in the same way xilonen saved geo (she didn't)
I wish we get Superconduct meta soon ❤. My citlali has 1000+ EM and her superconduct does 10k 2 ticks every trigger 😂.
Her burst melt does 90k tho ❤
Till this day ayaka is the best cryo dmg dealer, I was planning to get shenhe for her. But, citlali came like god
How exactly is Citlali replacing Shenhe. I keep seeing that sentiment but to me it doesnt make sense. Yes through cinder city you get 40 cryo dmg but thats kinda it no? I feel Shenhe provides way more with her resistance shred and Cryo specific dmg bonus. To me Xilonen makes more sense if you want a Natlan char in a Ayaka team.
she is not great tho, as sub dps she is little better then others, only thing that she do better then others is buff hyro and pyro, currently no hydro unit need her cause there are better units from her for support, diona give good amount of em rosiria give crit and good overall damage etc, cyro is dead till next region..
I think Rosaria is still a decent support because of her crit rate buff and i think she is the only one that gives a crit rate buff
Got Mavuika first for her sick bike and then got (bought a lot of primogems) Citlali for her cutesy apperance and styles as well as the fact that she's cryo. I really love the cryo element like a lot even if the numbers aren't that good, I still love the characters that we have for them. (Aesthetic(?) over gameplay gamer)
She did NOT save Cryo as an element.
She's only saved herself thanks to being from Natlan and having access to scroll set.
Kaeya, Diona, Rosaria are also capable of fulfilling her role of cryo applier yet she's the only good one because of her access to a good set and powerful dps teammates like C6 Gaming, Arlecchino and Mahuika (that's it).
She did nothing for cryo itself just herself
As a Wriothesly main, no. You're wrong.
the biggest problem with this video is thinking every char and person plays by the meta
Me when i lie
The only thing that would " save" cryo is if genshi made all their multipliers even. So you could do any elementla team you want.
Having vape and melt be x2 dmg, but reverse melt be x1.5 dmg and hyperbloom being x3 dmg is already rewarding a specific type of playstyle that most people dont want anymore. Then trandformitive reactions based on level and em and additive reactions.... Not to mention underused ,physcial, plunge, or shatter type damage all make it so difficult to play more niche roles. Theres a whole wiki page on elemental guage theory that doesnt exist in any shape or form ingame and yet its so vital to making teams cooperate with elemental reactions!!!
Id love it if all reactions were just equal. 👍and then i could play by shatterbloom teams for fun AND big dmg. Or not get told to switch from geo characters in co-op because its lame and doesnt synergize. A teams strength should be determined by how well you build that character... Not by what element or region patch they come out in 😢
we dgaf can wriothesley come now
I kind of miss the older forms of Geo and Cryo. But change is needed t
For evolution.
Every cryo character can clear all content wdym....i dont get whats bad about cryo i use it to 36 star abyss and 10 star the theater Yall are just weird
Honestly people just wanna hate on all the elements. Cryo, geo (rightfully tbh), pyro, electro. The least hated are probably anemo and hydro, and maybe dendro
Yet even with all that, every character that releases is called a must pull regardless of elemental type. It's such bs lol
where's rizzley?
It's not called saving an element, it's called powercreep even tho i don't like to use that word. Her being better and must pull doesn't incentivize to play cryo characters, it makes it so old characters are not good and new characters "fix" the stuff that old characters have "within themselves" and not for the whole game.
Nahh man she didnt save her element. Its the devs fault for buffing their Mobs and set up their abyss with not freezable mobs
The thing is, cryo is just so terrible that Citlali being a pretty bad as a Natlan 5 star limited characther, its still pretty good comapred to other cryo character
yea the same way Mauvika Saves Claymore by totally ignoring Claymore 🙄
I am hoping Skirk actually saves Cryo -- IMO Mihoyo penalizes Cryo Main Dps too much for Freeze being possible, considering the hardest encounters in the game are totally immune to it
She didn’t save cryo for shit
They really should make a new cryo dps !
I would love to see a male cryo driver with normal attacks similar to Heizou, with punches and stuff... but unfortunately hoyo will never do someone like this 👀
a cryo dps like that may be coming out next patch 👀
Erm there is wriothesley
this... this is a joke right?
This is not a cryo buff.
She doesn't save cryo LOL
lol, i put enough money in my ayaka to negate any and all opinions post like these have :)
Bro ur annoying don’t make any more video or just keep her name out ur mouth
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Honestly, melt ganyu can go crazy. Eula can go nuts but she needs c6 mika really and ideally raiden shogun. Ayaka is just locked into freeze thanks to her icd. Wrio is a decent dps but on a similar tier to ganyu