Quake Champions - Switch Guns BETTER

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @noname-1941
    @noname-1941 6 лет назад +19

    ESDF is great for a few more reasons:
    1) the F key has an indent on it, so it's easier to find without looking.
    2) it's the natural position for your hands when touch typing.
    And the extra keys on the left are handy too, but that probably depends on hand size.
    Been using ESDF since Quake 2 :)

  • @steak7654321
    @steak7654321 6 лет назад +17

    My movement keys are Y G C J. This puts a finger on all movement keys, and in my opinion opens up movement alot. It also gives my thumb both the spacebar and the alt key to use which is a huge bonus. It took about 2 weeks to get used to and a whole month to get completely down with no errors but for me it has definitely been worth it

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +4

      +Adam Smith interesting! Thanks for sharing, haven't heard of this one before!

  • @Garlic_Doggo
    @Garlic_Doggo 6 лет назад +57

    I got the game thanks to this free week deal and i got the Q-rocket launcher, E-lightning gun and R-plasma rifle by default

  • @AdrenalineJunkieXL
    @AdrenalineJunkieXL 6 лет назад +8

    I like the jump on right mouse button it helps on getting around the map faster but please remember guys you can shoot that rail before the gun fully appears on the screen so don't delay your shot when you switch to that rail

  • @lilLemonUwU
    @lilLemonUwU 6 лет назад +36

    Love that "q, e, r" is the default bind for those weapons now. It works amazing. Finally got in because of the e3 week giveaway... I'm buying into the game as soon as I have money though, it's too good not to support the devs.

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +1

      Yessss!

    • @Yoon-zo5iw
      @Yoon-zo5iw 6 лет назад

      I thought q,e,r was the default bind ever since the closed beta tho...or more like ever since q3 I think

    • @Willfray
      @Willfray 6 лет назад

      same here)

    • @user-25352
      @user-25352 Год назад

      @@Yoon-zo5iw but what had you bfg binded to in q3?

  • @judge_rekt
    @judge_rekt 6 лет назад +30

    I use mouse wheel up for rl and down for rail, since those are my both most used weapons.

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +5

      +Judge Rekt as long as the mouse wheel is selecting specifically those buttons I suppose that's alright. I wouldn't do that myself, but if it's comfy for you then that seems alright!

    • @judge_rekt
      @judge_rekt 6 лет назад +4

      FrothyOmen using that method in Quake and UT over 15 years now. I would recommend trying it. With the wheel click added, you have 3 weapons at hand already :) as long as your mouse is no 5 bucks cheap, this should work well for many.

    • @nottheengineer4957
      @nottheengineer4957 6 лет назад +3

      Judge Rekt This is my preferred method of switching weapons in any game, it simply removes the inaccuracy and delay of the mouse wheel while still giving you more keys right beneath your fingers.

    • @russellhassan7773
      @russellhassan7773 6 лет назад

      I personally use mouse4 and mouse5 for Rail and Rocket because they're easy to reach when going for combos, but I'm pretty new to quake. I do find it can mess up my aim for a second to move my thumb like that. Do you think I should maybe reserve mouse buttons to more of the tracking weapons?

    • @iLiokardo
      @iLiokardo 6 лет назад

      For TF2 (default, different for some classes like Spy) and CSGO, Wheel Up Slot 1, Wheel Down Slot 2, Middle Click Slot 3.

  • @ToneyMo
    @ToneyMo 6 лет назад +49

    Hearing a bit more nuance to your voice, pitch, emotion, etc in these past few videos dude. Not sure if it's been something you've been conciously working on it but I'm definitely noticing it!
    In regards to the video I've been having fun trying out some alternate bindings like the ones you mentioned. Even spacebar to move forward which has been interesting to say the least haha.

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +7

      +Tony Mo yes, I've been trying really hard to vary up my speech patterns. I'm glad it's starting to shine through! You should check out toxjq's bindings, they are B A N A N A S

    • @KARTIKEYA007
      @KARTIKEYA007 6 лет назад +2

      where are the detailed explanation of each weapon in quake champions? :(

  • @KorboKommando
    @KorboKommando 6 лет назад +1

    This video was insanely helpful I never thought about changing my control scheme to use Q E R but as soon as I did I was able to keep up with everyone else. I can land my shots and movement was never an issue but weapon switching was always a pain in the ass for me, thank you so much

  • @lydiasteinebendiksen4269
    @lydiasteinebendiksen4269 Год назад +1

    My binds are the same as doom eternal, which is the first game to force me to learn hiw to bind an arsenal (though i still have one more weapon than I can comfortably bind to...)
    My bindings are as follows:
    REFLEX BINDS (no thinking needed, primary clutch buttons):
    Q - Super shotgun, yes I know it ain't the best gun but my doom is showing, and it's definetlysomething you want out quickly when you want it.
    E - rocket launcher, bc I have played quake before
    L. alt - nail gun, my pinky hates me, so in cames that usually binds ctrl to something I use this instead, and it's the second most accessible button for me after q
    QUICK ACCESS (for stuff I like to be able to pull out without straining myself)
    1 - gauntlet, it's easy, but slightly slower than q, so I often use this for melee when f is taken.
    x - machine gun, this one I can comfortably access with both my thumb and index finger, so the versitile gun gets the glexible button
    z - lightning gun, so I personally don't like this gun too much, but I made it comfortable to pull out bc apperently it's good, and I can't deny the delight of quad dmg lightning.
    g - tri bolt, usually dedicated to my nade launcher in quake, this button is my "might need or want, but would replace with a better option if able" button.
    r - rail gun, no reload you say? well then this RRailgun i wanna use at RRange, with a slow RRecovery cooldown gets that button.
    and then f for special, shift for walk (think I might unbind walk tbh) and p FoR juMP, jk spacebar obvs, and the wasd movement quake helped invent ofc.
    This for me makes every button accessible, without making me fuck up my hand position, strain my wrists, or look down at the keys, all of which would screw me over

  • @invertin
    @invertin 6 лет назад +9

    Personally I've also moved all the numbered weapons over one (so machinegun is on 1) just because the UI doesn't show the gauntlet and my ape brain that likes bright colors kept seeing machinegun at the top of the list and going "Oh so it's 1 then", plus it means the two "rows" (1 2 3 4 and Q E R) end in the same place on the keyboard.
    At the moment gauntlet is set to ` but I might switch it to Z or V or something. I barely use it anyway but I probably should have it readily available.
    Also, the way I remember Q E R if I'm ever blanking on which is which weapon in the moment-
    R for Railgun.
    E for Electric Gun
    Q is the ultimate key in Overwatch and the Rocket Launcher is clearly the best gun :u

    • @darmakx99
      @darmakx99 6 лет назад +2

      jordan stone Also, "Q" is the symbol for Quake, and the rocket launcher is Quake's most iconic weapon. That's how I remember it. :)

    • @ISBPPLOS
      @ISBPPLOS 4 года назад

      I know that this is 2 years old but i use mouse5 1 2 3 4 Z X mouse4

  • @ryanaleksandr4116
    @ryanaleksandr4116 5 лет назад +1

    I just gotta say, I watched so many tutorials of yours before I started quake and this made it way easier for me to start.

  • @butterbean_01
    @butterbean_01 6 лет назад +7

    My compliments dude. *PERFECT VIDEO*

  • @matthewneidermeyer5550
    @matthewneidermeyer5550 6 лет назад +6

    Mapping every action in Quake is such a piece of cake after hl2dm

  • @Forthepaycheck88
    @Forthepaycheck88 6 лет назад +2

    ESDF works wonderfully because it places your fingers in what typists call a "natural reach". Instead of having to think about where keys are with a gamer mindset (Middle finger to hit X, etc.) you keep the same reaches you would use while typing. This can be an easily picked up advantage for those that do not have a "hunt and peck" means of typing. It also opens up all of the keys on the left side of the keyboard for binding... allowing you (if so inclined) to bind ALL of your weapons to letter keys, and "type" your way to select them. Nothing beats typing "DEAD" to switch to your favorite gun. XD

  • @tuhaggis
    @tuhaggis 6 лет назад +11

    Coming from Starcraft, hitting the key binds is a walk in the park!

    • @MelonMafia1
      @MelonMafia1 6 лет назад

      TheITS Starcraft is a pretty relaxed game (i think) so trying to hit the right keys in a stressful game like Quake is harder

    • @SuperArrrgh
      @SuperArrrgh 6 лет назад

      I must say that Starcraft (2) is way more stressful than Quake (Champions) in my experience. Both are really fast, but there's just too much to do in SC2 to ever be on top of it.

    • @blakkpatron
      @blakkpatron 6 лет назад +5

      "Starcraft is a pretty relaxed game" first time I've ever heard someone utter such words.

    • @MelonMafia1
      @MelonMafia1 6 лет назад

      Guys calm down I said "i think"

    • @onesixtyofficial
      @onesixtyofficial 4 года назад

      @@MelonMafia1 lol

  • @puhz1shin
    @puhz1shin 4 года назад +1

    I'm very glad when I started playing this game I started using Rocket Jump Ninja's ridiculous binds, they're absurd to get used to but they allow so much freedom

  • @OD78891
    @OD78891 6 лет назад +29

    MOUSE 2 FOR JUMP IS KING! HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!

    • @iLiokardo
      @iLiokardo 6 лет назад +2

      Why not MOUSE2 for forward? You don't have to use the same finger to go back and forth.

    • @aaronalfer2615
      @aaronalfer2615 6 лет назад +5

      Lio, Rocket Jump Ninja's fan, huh? Plenty of people use mouse 2 for jump, including top players. Reasons: better strafe jump control and probably a bit more precise RJ. Switching fast along the forward axis is not as crucial as strafing left and right. But it's all personal preference. What suits you best, my friend.

    • @wilddogspam
      @wilddogspam 6 лет назад +1

      Lio I do that, it's great. Jump on a and space.
      Never heard of that ninja, though. Only time I ever saw a config like mine, it was named "torso boy" on Doom 3's files.

    • @user-zj4rg9kn1c
      @user-zj4rg9kn1c 6 лет назад

      wolfspam lol, I haven't seen a right-click forward mapping in like a decade. If you play overwatch, run Lucio like your playing quake and you'll have a good time.

    • @DrCrowie
      @DrCrowie 5 лет назад +1

      @@iLiokardo Thats what I do!! Everyone thinks I'm weird which is also true

  • @s34mu5
    @s34mu5 6 лет назад +2

    you helped me with titanfall 2, now you are helping with quake! your vids/style is spot on. thanks for the content, hopefully titanfall 3 soon!

  • @WingmanSR
    @WingmanSR 6 лет назад +1

    I don't remember where I got the idea for this keybind layout, but it keeps more 'urgent' weapons on the mouse, with support/spam weapons on keyboard. Well, wherever I aped this from, this is my adaptation from bindings I used in Q3/QL to QC, might be useful to someone looking for a base to start with:
    WASD movement
    Mouse 1(LMB) : Fire
    Mouse 2(RMB) : Jump
    Mouse 3(Middle mouse) : Machine gun
    Mouse 4(Back) : Lightning Gun
    Mouse 5(Forward) : Shotgun
    Mouse Scroll up : Railgun
    Mouse Scroll down : Rocket Launcher
    Q : Gauntlet
    X : Nailgun
    Z : Tribolt
    C/CTRL : Crouch
    Alt : Champion Ability
    Space : Zoom
    Shift : Walk

  • @Gaga4Parma
    @Gaga4Parma 6 лет назад +3

    RMB for Jump is awesome. Space for Zoom is perfect.

  • @Ph42oN
    @Ph42oN 6 лет назад +2

    I had keybind for each weapon ever since i started using that on quake live, first it needed some time to get used to, but after few hours its much better. I also use mouse side buttons and wheel for weapons.

  • @c0gnus
    @c0gnus 6 лет назад +2

    In Quake III or Quake Live I'm using esdf; however, in QC there are less weapons, so I'm using wasd in this game. Also I'm using my mousewheel, but not for cycling weapons - scroll down for RL and up for LG.

  • @darioruttkay7729
    @darioruttkay7729 6 лет назад +2

    The q e r setup was my first idea without even hearing about it, just that those weapons are king :D

  • @volskayaindustr9817
    @volskayaindustr9817 6 лет назад +1

    thank you man I would be lost in this game without your guides

  • @jaxxons11
    @jaxxons11 4 года назад +1

    Q,E,R,F,G,C,V are all my keybinds for the weapons in order
    M4 for ability and M5 for VC

  • @Millenia3D
    @Millenia3D 6 лет назад

    Thumb buttons for LG/RG work pretty nicely for me, makes it really satisfying to combo with the RG.

  • @carloscolorado4956
    @carloscolorado4956 6 лет назад

    I do most of my switching on the wheel. Meaning wheel up, rail gun, wheel down rocket, wheel click shotgun. I have a couple more buttons, but freen up those 3 wepons can upgrade the versatility of your wasd surrounding keys.

  • @CarbonitePlays
    @CarbonitePlays 6 лет назад +1

    I've always been a believer in having my keyboard hand (my left hand) stick mostly to movement and only minor weapon switches (like gauntlet, machinegun, nailgun and shotgun) so that when you need to switch to a weapon like rocket-launcher you can do it without sacrificing being able to move in a certain direction etc.
    I personally use mouse4 for rocket-launcher, mwheel-up for lightning gun and mwheel-down for rail-gun with mouse5 being another bind for my ability (again, to make sure I have a bind which can be used without taking a finger off of a movement key) - at the end of the day though it's all about what any individual is comfortable with I guess, though like you said I would definitely not be trying to stretch over to 6, 7 or 8 for weapons as important as the "big 3"!

  • @wyldeman7
    @wyldeman7 6 лет назад

    Scroll wheel up can be a specific weapon, scroll wheel down can be a specific weapon, then the side mouse buttons as well.
    I have a severely limited left hand due to partial paralysis from a bad car wreck, so I my keyboard hand as little as possible

  • @xperiahenrik
    @xperiahenrik 6 лет назад +1

    I like to not have to reach from the directional keys too much so I like to use my thumb in games, usually for buttons C, V, B and sometimes in mmos even N. Here are my keybinds, maybe they work for you! :)
    1 Gauntlet
    2 Machinegun
    Q Rocket Launcher
    E Lightning Gun
    R Railgun
    F Shotgun
    C Nailgun
    V Tri-bolt
    T Ability
    Movement keys are default :)

  • @reNINTENDO
    @reNINTENDO 6 лет назад

    I use ESDF, and I've been championing its merits for a while now. It gives you the benefits you mention in the video, plus if you're a touch typer, you know exactly where keys are because your hand is in the position it always is when typing. And believe it's really easy to switch. I always use ESDF when I can, but some games don't let me. Switching back to WASD takes all of a few seconds for me to adjust typically. I imagine the same is true for the reverse. Honestly the biggest reason to use ESDF for me is largely ergonomic. My hands are decently big, and WASD makes them feel all scrunched up. ESDF would probably be the default if games were originally developed on contemporary keyboards, but WASD was largely used to prevent keyboard ghosting back in the day.

  • @EvJlol
    @EvJlol 6 лет назад +1

    Personally I use Railgun on E, Lightning Gun on R, Shotgun on Q, 3 as Tribolt, and C as chaingun. My bindings all go back to waht I had set on Unreal Tournament, so Most similar weapons go on the same key (Shotgun instead of Flak Cannon, for example.)

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +1

      Whatever works for you! You've got dedicated buttons for everything, which is the core of my argument here.

  • @fmontgomeryrn
    @fmontgomeryrn 5 лет назад

    I've played quite a bit over the years, and play this game. I use wasd movement and mouse 1= fire, mouse 2= zoom, ability = mouse 3, mouse up= MG, mouse down= LG, R=RG, F=SSG, Q=SNG Z=Tribolt, and C=RL Caplock and mouse 5 =Gauntlet, Shift= move down. I've moved things around over the years, here and there, but have always stayed with these basics. wasd and some combination of the key's listed above.

  • @sonoftill3877
    @sonoftill3877 3 года назад

    Thanks for the tips. The weapon binds were identical to what I used in 96-97. Trying to play quake again, 25 years later, I had forgotten that...Maybe this recall will help, lol.

  • @Zeioth
    @Zeioth 6 лет назад +6

    I've been playing quake for 20 years. These are my keybinds:
    Mouse mid-button: Gaunlet
    Mouse 3: Plasma gun
    Mouse 4: Lightning gun
    Q: Rocket
    E: Shotgun
    R: Railgun
    1 and 2: Machinegun
    3 and 4: Tridart
    HINTS:
    12-34: To press this row you need to lift most of your fingers from AWSD. So this arrow is the slowest to press. Also your accuracy to press this buttons is worse in comparison with Q-E-R or the mouse buttons, that's why I duplicate the keybinds here.
    Q-E-R: This is the row where you have better accuracy and reaction time, that's why I put here slow cadency weapons.
    Mouse buttons: This buttons are very easy to press too, but when you press them, it can affect your ability to track your enemies for a few milliseconds. That's why I put here fast cadency weapons.

    • @krzychu9501
      @krzychu9501 6 лет назад

      Adrian Lopez thx man

    • @iLiokardo
      @iLiokardo 6 лет назад

      ya'll are forgetting about Z X C and V. those keys are below WASD so according to gravity you should be faster.
      Really though.

  • @manbehindthewires
    @manbehindthewires 6 лет назад

    Mouse thumb for gauntlet is good when you're needing to get guts deep. Still have access to all your nav buttons so you can keep chasing them down.

  • @Mechaneer
    @Mechaneer 6 лет назад +1

    I've always used QWES for movement, so Q-E for strafe instead of A-D or S-F. I've heard that Rapha prefers that QWES setup as well. I also use R for rail, and then I got chaingun on A and lightning gun on D. :-) I've been pretty comfortable with this setup since Quake Live. The only thing I'm not sure about and thinking of changing is crouch/walk. I have it on CTRL which is sometimes hard to find and maintain a press on in tense situations. I was thinking of making SPACEBAR crouch, and changing jump to MOUSE 2. Either that or just make SHIFT or CAPS LOCK crouch.

  • @augmented2nd666
    @augmented2nd666 Год назад

    M2 forward M3 back M4 zoom, SD for strafe, A(MG) Q(NG) W(TB) E(RG) R(LG) F(SS) G(RL) C crouch Z ability. Ive had this since quake 3 excessive plus, where weapon switching is even faster than QC due to the mod's coding. It transfers over well, I never used WASD because the default was mouse 2 for forward and it just made sense at the time and still feels good now.

  • @iLiokardo
    @iLiokardo 6 лет назад

    I have a tip for you. Bind MOUSE2 (right click) to forward, so you now you don't need to use the same finger to go back and forth. Then, you bind Rail Gun above your backwards key, since you won't be walking backwards switching to it.
    Shoutouts to Rocket Jump Ninja.

  • @JUSCuas3
    @JUSCuas3 6 лет назад

    I'd recommend ESDF for anyone using WASD, as it opens up an entire row of keys.
    I personally prefer using ASDF with RMB:
    A - Jump / S - Left / D - Backward / F - Right / Z - Crouch / RMB - Move Forward / Space - Aim
    This way all your fingers are always on your movement keys, so you're not hindering your movement at all. With the F key also having the indent, makes it easy to find.

  • @AdrenalineJunkieXL
    @AdrenalineJunkieXL 6 лет назад

    Hey frothy love the quake videos!! here's some more video ideas for beginners 1 a more comprehensive video on rocket jumps. i thought when I first started that you had to do a complete 180 to get an effective rocket jump but that's not always the case depending on where you want your momentum to go. 2 a video on picking up the sounds your enemy makes. In duel this is absolutely crucial for getting those defensive rockets and prefiring rails 3 game mode specific videos like for duel it plays 100% different to sacrifice or dm game modes. No matter what ya do I'm still loving the videos man. I hope your channel keeps going up and up.

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад

      +AdrenalineJunkieXL these are all in the pipeline!

    • @AdrenalineJunkieXL
      @AdrenalineJunkieXL 6 лет назад

      FrothyOmen hell yea man I have no doubt they'll be good lol

  • @danh2802
    @danh2802 6 лет назад

    Great guide for the new blood!
    Personal preference here; 5 is too far to press, and 1/2 are just as hard to press with ring or middle finger whilst holding forwards. I use wheel up/down for weapons (mg and shotty) , E is for Energy (plasma/nails) R is for ROCKETS (psh, railgun xD) 3 rhymes with LG, gauntlet on my mouse thumb button (clench that fist yo), tri bolt is C and Rail is X, locating all my keys as close to my index finger as possible, with a few on the mouse.
    In my UT2k4 days I would use F for Translocator, but that isn't in quake, though i'm thinking of trying out skill button F over Q now. Hope this is taken as a supliment to your guide rather than a criticism...'cept that R for Rail Gun...PSH! :D (i have 1 and 2 for scroll back/forward incase I forgot what i'm carrying, but the weapon bar usually helps more unless it happens in a fight)
    PS
    ESDF and RDFG are both legit, but i stopped using them when I kept bumping into games with limited rebind, RMB jump/space zoom for life! (Also see SHIFT for crouch for less stretching with crouch/ rocket jumping, CTRL for walk since you don't need fast inputs and can adjust your hand position)

  • @zeliph
    @zeliph 6 лет назад

    It's a good thing I switched to PC gaming on June 2017, so I can follow/play the cool fast paced games Frothy plays. :P
    Good Key Binds Frothy!

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +1

      +Matoro Zeliph enjoy the pc man!!

  • @Willfray
    @Willfray 6 лет назад

    I use mouse wheel up for the gauntlet and down for mg, plus have a couple of additional buttons on a mouse for sg and nails.

  • @STaRBG4405
    @STaRBG4405 3 года назад

    Better keybinds for new players that are exactly as shown on right side of screen so it helps you having visuals to memorize:
    1. Machine gun
    2. Shotgun
    3. Nailgun
    4. Tribolt
    Q. Rocket Launcher
    E. Lightning Gun
    R. Rail Gun
    V. Melee ( change to whatever you want )

  • @iamcage187
    @iamcage187 6 лет назад +1

    I set my ability key to one of the side buttons on my mouse... Works great for me. Might try putting jump on rmb

  • @Retroboy22
    @Retroboy22 4 года назад

    Me personally I use space for shoot right mouse button for jump and left mouse button for ADS I recommend giving it a try

  • @Nicolai0Nerland
    @Nicolai0Nerland 6 лет назад +8

    Ah I wish it was still possible to get the Twitch Rocketlauncher ; _ ;

    • @stemiplays2856
      @stemiplays2856 6 лет назад

      i do have it along with quakecon 2017 lg and not using either

  • @michaj5587
    @michaj5587 6 лет назад

    This is my set:
    q- machine gun,
    e-shotgun,
    r-tribolt,
    f-lightning gun,
    x- nail,
    c-rail,
    alt-rocket
    middle mouse-ability,
    space- zoom,
    mouse extra keys (left thumb)- gauntlet,
    right mouse button-jump.

  • @AzizTheGazele552
    @AzizTheGazele552 2 года назад

    I wanted to add my personal preference, since in most fps melee is either f or v, I put my gauntlet on v, further reducing the amount of reach I need to do to reach normal weapons,a s they are now from 1 to 4 and I feel very comfortable swapping to it when an enemy comes around a doorway as I shoot them

  • @Shajirr_
    @Shajirr_ 6 лет назад +1

    I would disagree about the mouse wheel - sure the default selection mode is not usable, but just map something like rocket launcher on scroll up and rail or lightning on scroll down instead, plus most mice will have at least 2 side buttons, so that is 4 weapons just on the mouse covered

  • @jimmydholden
    @jimmydholden 6 лет назад

    If anyone does like the scroll wheel, there's an option to scroll to the weapon you want, before it activates the switch (this might not have been an option when this video was made).

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад

      It wasn't, but I still don't recommend doing that anyways. Direct selection of each weapon is critically important. Scrolling to it with the wheel has too much room for error IMO

  • @randomdudeontheinternet4389
    @randomdudeontheinternet4389 6 лет назад +1

    I actually do the RMB jump because of my absolutely weird hand position on WASD, which would make right diagonal strafe jumps impossible :D

    • @iLiokardo
      @iLiokardo 6 лет назад +1

      Is your keyboard in a 45 degree angle?

    • @randomdudeontheinternet4389
      @randomdudeontheinternet4389 6 лет назад

      Nope :D, I use my thumb to strafe right, index finger to move forwards /backwards and my middle finger to strafe left.

  • @stemiplays2856
    @stemiplays2856 6 лет назад

    0:40 you can see that for getting RL quickly you can also press Q,E for LG and R for rail.not sure if you made it that way but i have a feeling its already a default.
    EDITED AT 3.12.18:as said q,e and r are also binded RL,LG and rail by default.

  • @jorgecorea7528
    @jorgecorea7528 6 лет назад

    I don't use the walk function so I map the shotgun to shift for a quick switch to finish an enemy, and the tribolt to 3 because I actually use it.

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад

      Whatever works for you! If you don't play duel or 2v2, I can definitely see you not feeling like you need walk.

  • @Jay_Sullivan
    @Jay_Sullivan 6 лет назад

    I have my RG, RL, and Active bound to the mouse wheel. I've been landing a lot of accidental rockets and rails when spamming Keel's grenades. xD
    ESDF FTW! It's so annoying that no games have ESDF presets, though.
    When I switched jump to M2, I became a lot better at strafe jumping.

  • @pityuiam1384
    @pityuiam1384 5 лет назад +1

    rocket: F Rail: E LG : R Nails: Q Shotgun: 3 Tribolt : Shift Gauntlet: C This works best for me

  • @missa2855
    @missa2855 6 лет назад

    i have my stuff set like this:
    -Weapons
    Rocket Launcher: M-Wheel Up
    Lightning-Gun: M-Wheel Down
    Rail Gun: R
    Nail Gun: E
    Shotgun: 3
    Gauntlet: Q
    Tribolt: G
    Machine Gun: 1
    Zoom: space
    ability: mouse 5
    -movement
    Running: WASD (forward, left, back, right)
    Jump: mouse 2
    Walk: shift
    Crouch: mouse 4
    -Misc
    open chat: enter
    change champion: H

    • @iLiokardo
      @iLiokardo 6 лет назад

      Why not bind some weapons to Z, X and C?

  • @WhooshWh0sh
    @WhooshWh0sh 3 года назад

    *Laughs in 5 button mouse*
    Btw, what I really love about Quake Arena games is how bizarre and unique keybinds for each player are.

  • @Menshir
    @Menshir 6 лет назад +46

    just use an MMO mouse
    easy time

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +29

      +Idhor Menshir reeeeee

    • @Menshir
      @Menshir 6 лет назад +3

      movement with arrow keys, jump with RMB, B E S T S E T U P

    • @Menshir
      @Menshir 6 лет назад +1

      corsair scimitar pro is my current go-to mouse, excels at everything pretty much. the G600 also is really good altho the sensor isn't as top quality, but the middle buttons are more accessible; forces a grip on you though, and both are quite heavy for FPS mouses, which you can get used to but some people really don't like.

    • @orcusdei
      @orcusdei 6 лет назад

      no! Fckn noobs. This would be a good idea, if there is an FPS mouse with enough binds. Since there is not, buy regular heavy logitech mouse, max out the sensitivity, so your mouse movement on pad is 1-2 cm to turn around and bind everything but gauntlet around WSAD/EFDG...

    • @1967KID
      @1967KID 6 лет назад

      Idhor Menshir I got the black one my keys r forward, f backwards d move left g move right ,spacebar zoom, s crouch ,a walk ,t gauntlet, mouse wheellup rockets, wheeldown rail, mouse 1 LG, 2 sg ,3 ng, 4 machine gun,5 tb push down wheel special, mmo corsair simulator pro love it on my 2nd pc the same config but Razer Naga 2012.

  • @flea1683
    @flea1683 4 года назад

    shift everything over so e becomes your forward key, gives you more available keys to bind to weapons.

  • @magnon8760
    @magnon8760 2 года назад

    Everything works if you want it to and its how you think of it ( resonates with/in you). It can be based on abstract concepts or practical logic.
    This ( key mapping freedom)
    to me is why pc is master race.

  • @dylanwilliams4302
    @dylanwilliams4302 5 лет назад

    I always use TGFH for every game it’s right in the middle of your keyboard bit of a pain switching from WASD to TGFH but once you get used to it it’s like you can never go back haha

  • @DragonicDude
    @DragonicDude 6 лет назад

    I have the shotgun bound to my overwatch melee button which is my 1/2 spare mouse buttons used by my thumb.

  • @stemiplays2856
    @stemiplays2856 6 лет назад

    switched jumping and zooming and i feel more comfortable with that

  • @margrab1
    @margrab1 6 лет назад

    dont ditch the mouse wheel... just assign 1 weapon for wheel up and another weapon to wheel down. what you shouldnt do is set "next slot/weapon" to wheel up or "previous slot/weapon" to wheel dwon.
    so what you end up is selection of a rail gun whenever you will spin the mouse wheel up... try it.

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад

      That's an option I did not think to explore and is certainly an alternative to what's presented in the video

  • @aaronalfer2615
    @aaronalfer2615 6 лет назад +2

    I disagree. Mouse wheel is awesome. I use MW up for the railgun and MW down for the rocket launcher :3

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +2

      Choosing a weapon directly with the wheel is fine. It's scrolling through that's terrible. Could've worded that better.

    • @aaronalfer2615
      @aaronalfer2615 6 лет назад +1

      I get it :D You worded it just fine, I'm just fooling around. Good stuff.

    • @iLiokardo
      @iLiokardo 6 лет назад

      MOUSE2 for forward, RG above backwards key.

  • @senjusan6359
    @senjusan6359 6 лет назад

    Q- Rocket launcher
    E-Shotgun
    R-Railgun
    F-Lightning
    1-gaunt
    2-machine
    3-that weird thing with 3 shots
    z-Nailgun
    I use this shit since Quake Live

  • @1gishy
    @1gishy 6 лет назад

    It’s weird but I personally use the num pad for my binds. Still tooling around with it, though :D

  • @s1lverFoX
    @s1lverFoX 6 лет назад

    I use mwheeldown for jump and pretty much leave everything the same, but i used to use esdf for quake so idk ill prob do that again eventually

  • @IAmMadMattDog
    @IAmMadMattDog 6 лет назад +4

    Why did everyone gravitate to WASD anyway, ESDF or even RDFG makes so much more sense. It really makes me want to consider re-learing and remaping all my games just to have access to so many keys.

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +1

      Honestly man, you're totally right. It does seem just flat out better looking at it on paper.

    • @Ph42oN
      @Ph42oN 6 лет назад +6

      I once tried esdf, it was too hard to use shift and ctrl.

    • @SoIoCreep
      @SoIoCreep 6 лет назад +1

      WASD became the standard because of a world champion Quake player named Thresh.

    • @russellmasc
      @russellmasc 6 лет назад

      Ph42oN yes...i faced the same reaction....its a bit hard to reach over to those buttons

    • @xperiahenrik
      @xperiahenrik 6 лет назад +3

      I think it became that way simply because it is easier to reach Ctrl, Shift and tab with your pinky that way. Since those are big buttons and you can hit your Ctrl key with a bent pinky, I think many people like to use them for their binds.

  • @user-zj4rg9kn1c
    @user-zj4rg9kn1c 6 лет назад

    You should change to Esdf move so you can use a, q, and W on the left side. I only use 2 and 3 for my Gauntlet.

  • @giuseppelanna
    @giuseppelanna 6 лет назад

    O use nailgin at my mouse button and so I can use the tribolt at number 4, like in Quake 3 where gl was used in 4

  • @AnymMusic
    @AnymMusic 6 лет назад

    I put the melee on middle mouse, and then remapped the first 4 guns to 1-4, and have the rest on q e r

  • @jahVlad
    @jahVlad 3 года назад

    i dont play QC cuz i like Ql/Q3 better and i use q=rockets, e=rail, r=granade, f plasma, mouswheel forward= lighjtning, mouswheel down=shotty, mousb.4= gaunt, mouseb.5= machien and space =jump yes i use space and it works good for me

  • @finnagarf743
    @finnagarf743 3 года назад

    I've tried switching my movement from wasd to esdf in other fps games like csgo, but I find it more difficult to use CTRL for crouch so I switched back to wasd

  • @Reydriel
    @Reydriel 6 лет назад +1

    I HIGHLY recommend switching to EDSF. Once you get used to it you'll never wanna go back lol, you can access so much more of the keyboard. You'll also never have to look at your keyboard again to find the movement keys, since there's the nub on F (very natural position for touch-typists). I wish all games defaulted to ESDF imo.
    Also, you can also bind MWHEELUP/DOWN to certain weapons too!

    • @iLiokardo
      @iLiokardo 6 лет назад

      Instead of CAPS LOCK, SHIFT and CTRL, you get Q, A and Z for walking and crouching.
      Then you can bind those previous keys for something else.
      I guess it could help me, crouching A, zoom Z (what a coincidence), then SHIFT for walking.

  • @henryhuynha4818
    @henryhuynha4818 6 лет назад

    My Keybinds
    ~ = Gauntlet
    1 = Machine Gun
    2 = Shotgun
    3 = Nail Gun
    4 = Tri-Bolt
    E = Rail Gun
    Q = Rocket Launcher
    F = Lightning
    R = Ability

  • @Mokey
    @Mokey 6 лет назад

    I always had the "privilege" to use a mouse with 3-6 mouse buttons so i never ever learned to press 1-4 on the keyboard. In TF2 for example i can have all weapons, crouch, tactical and boost all on the mouse

  • @dazeen9591
    @dazeen9591 5 лет назад +1

    Mouse 4 and Mouse 5 for important weapon switches 🤔😳

  • @10DD
    @10DD 6 лет назад

    I'm no pro but I've been around Quake and FPS since Quake 1 days and it's always been..
    Y G H J movement, T - talk, U - plasma, I - grenade, K - railgun, , - machinegun, M - rocket, N - shotgun, V - walk, C - crouch, X - gauntlet, F - lightning, SPACE - jump
    For Quake Champs I've left F as powerup and T is lightning
    Give you so much mid keyboard space and you don't feel so cramped up in the corner of the keyboard.

  • @iLiokardo
    @iLiokardo 6 лет назад

    I'm so used to crouching with SHIFT because of TF2.
    But A is a single unit key after all.

  • @ChristopherMoon31415
    @ChristopherMoon31415 6 лет назад

    For me, I have:
    Rocket Launcher: 5 (never had an issue with it)
    Tri-bolt: 4
    Nailgun: R
    Mashinegun: E
    Lightning gun: G
    Railgun: Middle Mouse Button

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +2

      Yeah man that looks fine as well! As long as those guns are not being cycled one at a time with the mouse wheel I'm super happy :D

    • @iLiokardo
      @iLiokardo 6 лет назад

      Switching LG and RL to mouse wheel is faster and more effective.

    • @ChristopherMoon31415
      @ChristopherMoon31415 6 лет назад

      +Lio I just might try that out. It would allow me to keep my fingers on WASD more often.

  • @RemedieX
    @RemedieX 6 лет назад +1

    Why am I watching this? I use a Razer Naga to switch fast. Oh right, cuz this is good content. That's why I watch, duuuh how could I forget

  • @THEFurfoot
    @THEFurfoot 6 лет назад +2

    wait I got confused so I shouldn't have any weapons bound to my mouse wheel or I shouldn't use it to cycle through them?

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад +3

      +Tombstone Jack you shouldn't use it to cycle through them. I'll be honest, I didn't consider the possibility of just specifically binding one weapon to mouse up or down, that seems fine to me. I wouldn't ever do it myself.... But if that is comfortable for you go for it

    • @THEFurfoot
      @THEFurfoot 6 лет назад +2

      thanks and ya I use my mouse up/down for 1 weapon each lets me have 4 guns bound to my mouse

    • @zatozatoichi7920
      @zatozatoichi7920 6 лет назад +1

      Actually many pros binding their lg / rail / rockets to +MWHEELUP & DOWN. Main reason behind it, if you want to rationalize it, is that you can use your movement binds completely freely while changing weapons, as the process has absolutely no effect on the keyboard. Not just pros though. Most quakers have some weapon binds on their wheel. I, too, use the up/down wheel for gauntlet/mg for 19 years. : D
      dem0n, known semi-pro, CYCLING thorough weapons since forever btw. He can only do it properly with an MS WMO 1.1a though. (And this became almost like a meme in the community.) SPART1E also has very interesting (hybrid) weapon switching binds, including cycling AND keypresses.

  • @zak77702
    @zak77702 6 лет назад

    Frothy, I don't even play Quake and I watched this video just because you're so goddamn intelligent and informative lol. I subscribed to your channel from your Titanfall 2 content, and I know you're gonna move on to other things, but if you still play TF2 once in a while do another video on it! I still watch your "Mastering _insert Titan name here_" videos. Anyways great content. Keep up the good work man

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад

      +Zak K thank you so much this means a lot. I am trying to still do the occasional titanfall video here and there but I want to keep things light in favor of placing my focus on other games. I look forward to making even better stuff :)

  • @CrossDagger3
    @CrossDagger3 6 лет назад

    Being left handed I never realised that right handed people have issues reaching 6 to 8 numbers on the keyboard while holding W S A D.
    Using the keyboard with my right hand I can reach all the way to 0 with my pinky finger without any issue

  • @spaceheart7513
    @spaceheart7513 6 лет назад

    i think you were a bit biased when you did the mouse wheel one because most people have it set so that you dont pull out the weapon until you stop scrolling

  • @jamescngz1704
    @jamescngz1704 6 лет назад +1

    thx man

  • @noTABletguy111
    @noTABletguy111 6 лет назад

    I have all the Movement and Weapon binds on the NUMBLOCK, Jump on RM...for me he NUMBLOCK is perfekt since there are a lot of keys to bind. Only disadvantage is that i need to reposition my keyboard on my table what makes i sometimes hard...couz i have to clean up the mess first XD.

  • @eddiesantana3009
    @eddiesantana3009 3 года назад

    I do
    RL - Q
    ShotGun- E
    MachineG- MB 5 / 2
    NailGun - R
    Tri- F
    Lighting - Wheel Up
    Rail- Wheel down
    The scroll button isn’t that long for me on for me on that one when timed right on the reload but if there’s any advice I can get to better up my game that would be appreciated :) I’m new to this game and I’m just trying to figure things out

  • @DaPootisJedi
    @DaPootisJedi 6 лет назад

    Get one of those gaming mice with a keypad on the side, like a Naga to switch weapons

  • @3D_Creations_UK
    @3D_Creations_UK 5 лет назад

    Sticking with WASD as i would have to do it on every game from ut99 to doom. Id get confused lol.
    Good food for thought though. 👍

  • @gamingSlasher
    @gamingSlasher 6 лет назад +1

    I use TFGH for movement. WASDs only merit is its age. Why have the whole keyboard in front of you, smashing your mouse into it. UHJK would be even better.

  • @hfreeman7126
    @hfreeman7126 6 лет назад

    Do another Q&A! Maybe a “what’s next for Frothy in 2018?”

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад

      +h freeman not a bad idea!

  • @TheTopMostDog
    @TheTopMostDog 6 лет назад

    What about binding scroll up/down for gauntlet/shotgun? Helps keep your fingers on WSAD for those close-quarters fights.

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад

      As. Long as you're picking a weapon directly, sure!

  • @FFFan3445
    @FFFan3445 6 лет назад +1

    I have no problem hitting buttons 1-6 on my keyboard, and my G502 has two extra buttons next to the left-click that I set to 7 and 8. It's great for Quake Champions, Doom 2016, pretty much any arena shooter.

  • @corriedebeer799
    @corriedebeer799 2 года назад

    What about asd with right click as your forward. Old skool binds.

  • @s4ltvin3g4r6
    @s4ltvin3g4r6 6 лет назад

    I use q for rocket / e for lg / r for rail / f for mg / v for sg / c for nail / x for tribolt and mouse thumb 1&2 for pummel and ability . if that help anyone :) great video

    • @FrothyOmen
      @FrothyOmen  6 лет назад

      +S4lt&Vin3g4r that works! The main point here is that people get rid of the awful 6/7/8 binds. Whatever works for you is good otherwise!

    • @s4ltvin3g4r6
      @s4ltvin3g4r6 6 лет назад

      yeah for sure but if im not mistaken the 6/7/8 binds are already dual bind on q/e/r i just do some kind of circle around my wasd like f/v/c/x for 2/3/4/5 then q/e/r for 6/7/8 so that way the wpn stay in the same order kind of idk it just feels natural for me but anything that feels great is good not everyones brain works the same so as long as youre not doing some huge stretch anything is fine

  • @ynvch
    @ynvch 6 лет назад

    How customizable are controls in QC? Can I create custom aliases for 2+ actions like in Q2?