The First Report To Expose Guantanamo Torture
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2008
- Guantanamo Bay (2003): The United States has been accused of gross human rights violations for its policies at Guantanamo Bay. We gain unprecedented access to this controversial camp.
Terry and Beverley Hicks scrutinise a grainy video intensely. They're hoping to catch a rare glimpse of their son, David, who has been imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay for over 15 months. Like the other detainees, he is being held in legal limbo: denied prisoner of war status and not charged with any crime. At Camp Delta, an American guard shows us around a small wire cage where inmates like David spend the majority of their time. It measures just 2.4 m by 2 m. Floodlights remain on 24 hours a day and prisoners are denied all access to the outside world. Even boys in their early teens are held in these conditions and 17 detainees have attempted suicide. America insists that only "the worst of the worst" are imprisoned at Camp Delta but this view is challenged by other governments. "Most of the people detained were cannon fodder," claims Pakistani Spokesman Asad Ahyauddin. "The White House's position is that there is no right of any court to determine the lawfulness of their detention," complains Joe Marguiles, lawyer for the detainees. "They can be held at the unfettered discretion of the United States military for as long as the military sees fit." America's willingness to discard long held convention have caused distrust and concern. How can the world trust a process it cannot see?
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The military industrial complex really is the worst aspect of government.
Holding juveniles under the age of 16 in Guantanamo Bay? What a world we live in.
Everyone should get a trial to prove that they are guilty or not. This is so wrong.
tell that to other Countries, Gitmo Up and Running Full Swing - Crimes Against Humanity - I am more worried about Human Traffickers and since we now know the ring includes over a million people. and HEADS OF GOVERNMENT AND MSM ARE INVOLVED, of course they wanted to close Gitmo. All part of the Agenda to get Sheeples to War and Divide Each Other Again !!! Wake Up People !!!!
It is much worse than just wrong...
Enemy combatants have no rights under our Constitution. They are ENEMY SOLDIERS!
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@@lorawoodski6ll44 😂😂😂😂😂
Under 16? That's heartbreaking
I hate that they say how nice we are treating these people even though they are tortured, given no trial, and no human rights.
All these guards should be held accountable for crime against humanity
Not guards but the system.
Cry
like how your uncles touch children???????
When a country is runned by a corporation there will never be peace in this world.
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that military girl gaurd had something to say but was feared
Justice without a trial is not justice...
For those people who give orders to do all that things to the prisoners...who is gonna prison them?
No one. You must be dreaming if you think sanctioned psychopaths are ever going to see any justice.
A lot of the logic they use is troublesome, because the Geneva convention pretty much makes it so that if, say, country x and country y are at war and collect each other's soldiers as pows, if the war ends, then that's it, the pows are released and sent back home. Yet this camp's very existence suggests that America doesn't feel that the war is over at all, even if the red cross thinks it ended. So then, even if the war is over and America won, why does it have any right to keep those prisoners, using the excuse that "they might rise again and be trouble again"? That's a liability inherent in any war's resolution...
It's scared boomers and money goblins... they forgot evolution and brainwashed puppets support them too
They get around the Geneva suggestion by calling the guys detainees and not POWs.
"As soon as men decide that all means are permitted to fight an evil, then their good becomes indistinguishable from the evil that they set out to destroy."
// Christopher Dawson
i love how suddently the geneve war convention never happened?
The UN has ignored every instance of war crimes when perpetrated by a fully developed nation. China is the worst offender and has been for almost eighty years now yet most people don't even know that they have over two million Chinese Uighur Muslims in the Xinjiang Reeducation camps. It's absolutely useless.
This is a prison that is made and should be used for the worst of the worst both domestic and foreign; gangbangers, drug cartels, armed robbers, terrorists, rapists, murderers, molesters and other violent criminals. Also, corrupt politicians who betray, lie and deceive should be sent here for acts of high treason.
I don't understand how some of this stuff is considered torture.
I've been listening to the meow mix commercial for 10 hours STRAIGHT.
I'm just fine.
Meow.
this should never has been closed
I wonder how would Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Libya or Russia will be seen if they have a facility like this with some Americans inside? I wonder how Mr Bush or Obama would feel knowing that Americans are in a facility like this detained indefinitely without trial.
"The flood lights stay on 24 hours a day" umm did u notice that u filmed them while they were off...
7:54 he made ZERO attempt to answer her question whatsoever.
Last night I watched a film called 'the Card Counter' which was about a man who got good at counting cardsbduring 7 and half years @ Lebonworth, after he was charged with the accidental death of an inmate at Guantanamo Bay. The film shows and depicts the torture methods our government uses against it's captives, I've never seen such footage that made me so sick to think that our government uses these measures.
*LEAVENWORTH. SMH
Very true, the hypocrisy is astounding.
This is torture.
This is like the KZ's in 1945
They should be treated as prisoners of war AT LEAST. If not, this is a violation of international law, and domestic law. Just because the Bush White House administration said, "Geneva does not apply to these people," doesn't make it legal. Honor the law.
Well, I truely love visiting Germany. It''s such a beautiful country. I like discussing things with you too man. At least we could talk with cussing each other out. That's almost impossible here in the states.
No class. Your a good person. Keep on voicing your opinion and fighting the good fight to free people all over the world.
Auf Wiedersehen
There has to be a basis for detaining human beings, and it cannot be indefinitely and without trial. Some of these people were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or turned in by somebody who had something to gain. Some of them are innocent, or not that great of a threat. The system Bush set up did not care one way or the other about any of that. There also have to be standards for the way people are treated when imprisoned, even when they have been proven guilty.
their boat horn sounds like chewbacca haha!
This just pisses me off you're fighting enemy combatants you are required by international law to grant them prisoner of war status and treat them correctly no matter if they want to blow your head off.
Weather anyone wants to hear it or not: the vast majority of the American people are totally supportive of what is going on at Guantanamo Bay. And most of middle America honestly thinks they ate to soft
Well what the US is even doing to it's own People Locking them up in Prison .
I feel it's All EVIL Friend
GOD IS JUDGE AND HAS LAST SAY Friend
Dan Rhinehart NOT TRUE!!!
please do NOT use the term "most Americans", to express YOUR OPINION!!
Data shows that your opinion is ONLY shared with MOST Americans between the ages of 66 - 87!!!
I have NOT met ONE, not one that 100% AGREES w/ Gitmo!!
Whether not weather. Not a grammar nazi, just thought you should know
Oh nvm this is 6 yrs old you probably know by now
I was a guard at camp 5 (the only max security detention facility in gtmo) from 04-05
Were you really?
Was DeSantis with jag at that time ?
@@blajblaj2700
I think he went to gtmo after i had already rotated out. If there was anything done in the realm of “torture” i would not have known, it would have been at a CIA black site that i did not work, or even physically saw. My camp, and the camps with lower security clearance were kind of under a microscope when i was there, because it was immediately after the Abu Ghraib incident.
@@JKaiserable wait what? What's the difference between black site and guantanamo bay? Isn't the whole guantanamo bay a black site? Do black sites operate inside guantanamo? Who operates them? Only CIA? Military is not granted acces? Who guards the prisoneers in the black sites? The CIA?
@@andrei-teodorene9729
Majority of Guantanamo bay is compartmentalized security clearance, I had a higher security clearance than the other camps, but i could not just go into another camp, as there is security clearance in conjunction with “need to know” … i could technically get through the checkpoint, but if i was seen, i better have a damn good reason to be there, but above my camp (camp 5) … DOD personnel, CIA, and any other intel agency personnel that had clearance to some designated location on the base (black site). there were rooms in my camp as well, where those agency personnel would meet with detainees, we called them “reservations”… and we could monitor them on video but had no access to sound that was recorded, nothing interesting or immoral happened here, was just talking. Sometimes these conversations awarded detainees special privileges… but getting back to the black site, it was basically just understood that it existed, some people knew where it was, i believe it was the initial camp Delta, that was outdated by the other camps, and they converted it to the black site… black site sounds ominous and suspenseful, basically just means off the grid of the normal camps, access regulated above standard military personnel rotations, didnt have regular JTF (joint task force) guards… didnt have full time detainees, was a temporary hold for reservations that were tight lipped on opsec (operational security).
Just sharing my point of view here. If the prisoners here would be treated with the highest hospitality or maybe some sort of rehabilitation, maybe that would change their perception on America.
Totally agree!
We Americans have very short memories. Let us remember that last time prisoners were released from Guantanamo there were roughly 60 of them found fighting American troops abroad later.
P.S.- If they capture our troops they are killed on the spot or tortured and put into videos showing them getting tortured.
I wonder how would You feel if your neighbourhood got blown up because a criminal lived 115 houses down the lane at some point in previous couple of years ?? And then Your brother gets taken to a Guantanamo like prison camp and tortured for years on end without charge and trials because his brother, You, lives 117 houses down the road where a Criminal once lived ??
PS: Did any Afghan or Iraqi Ever kill any American in their countries before 2002 in case of Afghanistan or before 1990 in Iraq ??
Why were your Troops over there in the first place ??
@@hadikhan5197 The answer is simple, he doesn't see Muslims as humans. Just as this man interviewed says, the Americans, especially the White ones apparently, treated them worse than animals.
@todd8333 What spelling error did I make???? please tell me because I dont see one.
there is a dude in there who has been there since he was 15, don't know how old he is now, but that is some serious violations of human rights
They can't be interviwed alone because if they say something offside about torture they will be in trouble.
where were u posted?
@mczaks
How do you know that they can't contact their famalies/lawers/ect?
Some crimes deserve a worse punishment.
under 16, does he recieve any education at all?
They call it "American Cuba" but the reality is its Occupied Cuban territory which means anyone there is not protected by the Constitution or subject to United States Law. If it really belonged to America it would come under US Law and the prisoners would easily be transfered to the US.
American's don't see themselves as the occupiers but its common fact that America does just that in many parts of the world. It seems likely Guantanamo Bay is being used as a prison to delay its handover.
so he's a permanent prisoner because he converted to some other religion... where's that amendment in the constitution that talks about religion? america, land of the free? yea right, you're "free" to practice any religion, as long as it is christianity, NOT atheism or islam
Terrorist sympathizer
Well that escalated quickly.
right on my friend.
And now you're the oracle of future events?
@mczaks
Wait... If this is rue, how do people know about this? They'd have to have access to the outside world, and then likely lawyers, for this information to be known. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I like the two m60s at the beginning. Looks like a scene out of Farcry :-)
@bigreddawg91
How are they "known" terrorists? Name a single Guantanamo prisoner who has been tried and found guilty of ANY act of terrorism. ONE CASE! It should be quite simple to delve up this information. I haven't heard of a single prisoner who has even been tried, let alone convicted. I would welcome any information that you might have.
This is just Nasty Cruel Mean and inhuman To Do this Hateful act To another Human Being . To Treat Another Human Being So Cruel Tearing a Family Apart . Family Doesn't Know if The Loved is Alive or Dead Then send these Men to Foreign Countries where they Don't have Family .Shame on the USA. Treat Others the way You want to Be Treated !!
Damn I've been in jail and i must say that Guantanamo bay x ray camp looks like a summer camp to me.
David Hicks split my step dads riot shield at gitmo
Boo hoo
This is just wrong. I hate that these people say that. Oh we're treating them nice but they're not. They're torturing them in actuality. And that should not be allowed.
Guantanamo must be closed the right way: detainees must either be promptly charged and given fair trials in U.S. federal courts or be released. Illegal detention at other U.S facilities, including those in Afghanistan, must end
Most detainees are held unlawfully, without warrant or charge, and with no legal representation to challenge their detention. The indefinite and arbitrary nature of the circumstances of their detention has led to a steep decline in the mental health of many at Guantánamo
@bigreddawg91
Can you provide information regarding this 50 bucks a day that you claim these guys get? I asked you for this and thus far you haven't delivered. I'm waiting.
"They aren;t terrorists, they are misguided people that were at the wrong place at the wrong time"
give me a fucking break.
The military girl felt guilty but feard the top
why the fuck whould you need an M60 against unarmed prisoners?
But that's just it... Many of these people have never been charged for terrorism or anything else. There are people imprisoned in Guantanamo, like Shaker Aamer (Google is your friend), who have actually been cleared for release but are still held as prisoners -- prisoners who have been held for many years often based on nothing more than mere suspicion. The disgusting existence of Guantanamo is completely un-American and is in direct conflict with our ideals.
And I'm a Conservative.
the people that do this are truly EVIL. WHAT GOES AROUND MUST COME AROUND. ..
kids UNDER 16 years old?" WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK USA?!
One thing every American should remember is that all these methods are first tried abroad, and then come home to a Police department in your neighborhood. Once innocence is lost, there is nothing stopping it any more. Ask the Germans.
You sound like a wise man..
They don't deserve human rights? YOU don't deserve human rights!
@911insidejob81 It's been in the process of closing for over a year now and 550 prisoners have been released, with 180 remaining. It's hard finding country's to accept them and even then they only accept 2-3 at a time. A memorandum was issued 6 months ago by the president to transfer remaining detainees to Thomson Correctional Center. It's been closed for a while now. I don't know how everyone here can be so passionate about this and ignorant of it at the same time.
@digitalbeat666 your other comment,which was for some reason deleted, is the exact truth of what is really happening in today's society...im glad to see that there are some people left with this way of thinking...
@BofferFF is that why most of the people held there are released without charge?
DON'T START READING THIS UNLESS YOU READ THE WHOLE THING!
If a kid steals a sweet, what are you gonna do? take off all his clothes and steal his wallet? if someone has a dispute with your friend, what are you
man thats not torture. torture is having a hammer taking to your toes.
5:53 hahaha dude looks like Dave chapelle
We need to give Cubans citizenship to the US and then we can use the entire island of Cuba to keep any and all enemy combatants. Like Australia was first populated. We can provide them with a few things. Bring their families if they wanted and we could keep an eye on them. Lets see what they would create. A new peaceful nation hopefully. The reason it wouldn't work is because Islam and half of the radicals imprisoned would start sectarian murder. Like an addict they must shed muslim blood more so than any western blood thank god. He is great indeed.
@DanialWali
Actually NONE of them have had a trial.
So you just sit in the woods on your computer all day hating America? Sounds like a fulfilling life.
The attack on 9/11 was in retaliation to specific foreign policy issues of the time. I'm not saying it was justified, but Bin Ladin made it clear (in his videos) that Americas position against Muslims in Palestine and support of Israel in the Middle east was the reason for the attacks. He never said he wanted everyone to believe in Allah or convert to Islam. Again, I'm not saying it was justified to kill innocent people but it was NOT an attack on our freedom or way of life like so many believe.
war on terror is a ridiculous term. theyre inflicting terror themselves by having a war on the consequences of the actions that theyre involved in. seems kind of hypocritical and people fall for this bullshit as a legit reason to be able to do this kind of shit to other humans. They don't need imprisonment, they need help and that definitely isn't helping
Also, terrorists sometimes look like any other person on the street. So I don't blame them for being better safe than sorry.
have they closed it? ok where will they put the detainees now? Will they rent an apartment near Times square or something?
Terrorism is something that we can't condone,
but there is more than one reason why the towers came down.!!!
I find your logic here hard to swallow. Only 2000 people died on 9/11 and we have a population of 300,000,000.
Also, your not taking into account the entirety of the 12 years we have been there.
You seem to forget the fact that the majority of the people sent to Gitmo turn out to be innocent. I don't know about your age but your maturity suits perfectly well with those "13 year olds".
You mad they changed it from tents to a real building?? Really?? How about maybe it's easier to air condition a solid building, and let's not forget THAT PRISONS WORK BETTER WHEN THEY ARE NOT TENTS!!!
This place is a disgrace. Simple.
@NurEineStimme
Think about what you've just said/typed. You are stating that the US legal system does not apply to non-Americans. By this rationale, anyone who is not born in the United States or naturalized is not bound by the law of the land, no? What you are claiming, then, is that a foreigner need not obey US law. WHERE did you get this crap from?
Welcome to US democracy of Torture
National security OR human rights
Sorry, I had some spelling errors in my last post.
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funny how the commercial before this is called siemens
And the person who says it sound like it sound like semen
Your turn.
@deathhax Hoo-Ah! Thank you for your service, I salute you sir!
This is torture camp which is not wanted in this century.
Also, I would like you to prove it was an outside job (with no internal influence) WITHOUT citing any media report at the time. Do your own goddamn research and come to an educated conclusion without mindlessly taking it for granted
So why didn't your Magic Negro close Gitmo like he said he was going to at every Campaign stop in '08 ?
People here are talking about things that are beyond their understanding.
@125RTY
Then why don't you have them stand trial? What are you afraid of? None of these prisoners have been tried in 9 YEARS of detention. Do you have so little faith in your legal system that you would not try them for fear of them being found completely innocent and that it would reflect badly on US policy?
Have to stop u there. Remember the movie "Zero dark 30"? After it was released, the HEAD of the CIA made a public appearance specifically to denounce the movies depiction of torture. Saying that in reality, it had very little to do with the actual capture of Bin Laden. It was on the main page of MSN literally the day after the movie came out.
epic face palm. im sure you went to a good college.
they do not deserved to be treated right for what they have done
@NurEineStimme
Do you realise that in the Constitution, all treaties that the US has signed up to (including the Geneva Protocol) are THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND? Therefore The Geneva Conventions are enshrined in the US Constitution. Not only that but the US Constitution does NOT only apply to US citizens. It applies to anyone within US jurisdiction. Where exactly did you get your information that it only applied to US citizens?
Your still missing my point. And I highly doubt torturing that 15 year old kid saved as many lives as you'd like to think. But seriously were do you get your info? I kinda want to check out your sources.
We used to fight for what was right. For the peoples rights. For the greater good. Now im stuck with the question, What are we really fighting for? We used to fight with our hearts and spirit. Now all i see in war is strict emotions. We dont fight for the better of our world anymore we fight because our emotions get the best of us. Whats the point of protecting us if the government is actually killing us slowly. Just a matter of time before our once great U.S falls.Till that day comes i remain 1
so if someone is 15 they can do whatever they want and they arent terrorists
is that what ur saying?