If anyone is interested in seeing me really push the system to the limit with a full six module, 100+ cue show, let me know and we will see what we can work out!
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics I never count on the timing of 1.4 to be accurate. By step firing my scripted show I get no unwanted overlap nor dark sky. Of course these shows are not time scripted to music. They are a scripted sequence of events. I get perfect timing with my finger and the step button.
@@mguerramd I use step fire more often than scripting myself on my shows. Not so much for pacing, but because kids like shooting fireworks and it's an easy safe way to let a five or six year old make things go boom on the 4th. I don't think this system is geared to people that are that worried about black sky or too much sky puke. If it allows people to be creative I'm all for it. Hell, if it makes shooting fireworks safer because it's cheaper I'm really for it. I've got a 18R2, five modules, and a Cobra Show Creator subscription, so I'm a small timer compared to most of you. But that's a lot of money for most people. I'm all for innovation in this hobby. If a new company cuts the system price by 30% or 50% maybe that'll reduce some of the accidents that drive so many restrictive laws against aerial fireworks.
@@benjaminnoble2244 I have more modules than I need, CSC, Audio Box, 18R2, so don’t need this but I may get just one as a toy to play with. It seems so cool. They told me they don’t have step fire as a safety precaution because you don’t arm the modules, they are just hot. So you have to press once to pick a cue and once to fire it. That’s legit. But if they hid step fire in there as an advanced user function…😊
Thanks for the demo and visit to Iowa Fireworks Farm. First 2 sold in 10 minutes! This is Awesome Hardware! Shout out to Joel and 319 Pyros for bombing in today. Hawkeye Pyro is Alive and Strong!
I'd be interested to see the long term reliability on this product. If it's reasonable, then this is pretty big jump in tech for smart device firing systems. Six modules at 18 cues with breakout board compatibility is pretty impressive. That and the price point being half of an 18M. Also, no need for a controller, and a free scripting software environment? Damn. Even with Bluetooth range limitations this could be a big contender for the backyard pyro market.
I agree until now this whole time I thought this was just a 18 cue system but now that I know you can have multiple firing modules this is a game changer. and yes I agree the limit of Bluetooth distance is a issue but can be dealt with.
Great Demo, I just got mine. I was wondering in this demo we’re using ematch or talons? Ended up purchasing the talons from ignite also. How much pre-fire time would you recommend for a cake? How about if you use a leader fuse?
I used ematch in this video. The standard pre-fire time is 0.5s. If you clip the igniter to the base of the first tube, you'll get a quick ignition. This may require cutting the cardboard back on cakes to get right up against the tube.
Great video and looks like an awesome product- one thing I noticed though at 1:55 is the number of series and parallel ematches that it can handle seems to be switched. Looking forward to more!
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics wow that's awesome! That makes wiring multiple devices so much easier- I may have to buy one of these "just because" Thanks again!
Lol there you go! In this video all of my hits were more than one in parallel and I did six on one hit. I hope to do a standalone video on max firing to see how far we can push it.
First off I'm a big fan! I have been a shooter for 1.3 for a number of years and I want to do my own thing but with 1.4 pro products, Would you recommend the ignite over the cobra?
Ignite is much cheaper to get into and works well for small shows. If you are planning on doing anything complex, or tightly scripted in the future, I'd go with a more professional system.
That is basically Cobra Show Creator but in a free version, that’s awesome! If you have played around with the Ignite software, does it have the same features as Cobra?
Yes you are correct. The Show Creator software is very comparable in features yes. Since it's a web URL and free, anyone is welcome to go check it out at designer.ignitefiringsystems.com
The shots seemed very well timed considering there was no pre fire timing, was the video and sound edited at the end? What would you recommend on a pre fire Time considering fuse burn time and lift time?
That is because I was using the MJG Firewire Initiators, which are instant ignition and directly matched into the firework. If you're using standard igniters and clip to the base of the tube as close as you can get to the firework, I'd do something like 0.5s (which should be default).
Very cool. Since the uploaded audio actually plays in the Ignite app during the show, I'm curious to know if it can also connect to a bluetooth audio source so that the audio is correctly in sync with the show.
Wow great video. I really like this system. I really wish it had longer range though. What is the fastest cue time you can shoot at? Does it have a 1sec delay like the Cobra 18R, or no delay like the 18R2? Also I have a ton of regular ematch. Wonder if I can just make some plug adapters to put into the cues so I can use up the remaining inventory of my regular ematch?
You might be surprised by the range! I also did a range video and on my phone (line of sight) I got up to 1300' with the unit on a 5 gallon bucket. Yes you can use regular ematch with the quickplug cables. Technically there is a slight delay, only because you have to select which cue you want to fire, then push fire and it gives you a little toast showing that it fired. You can also fire more than one igniter/match from the same cue.
I got this system. 4 module can hold about 72 - 500 gram cakes. Still have to program mine out. Have about 75% of my stuff in from 7 suppliers and rest shipping out this week to me.
Can you program it so ques automatically fire?? Like say your first firework is 30 seconds, so que fires then 30 seconds later que 2 fires, that one lasts for 45 seconds so after 45 seconds que 3 fires and so on and so on.
So this is anywhere from 200-400 depending on 18 or 36 queue and all I would need is long ignition cables ? Would you say this is worth it for my first system or should I just get a cheap 12 queue and get used to it ?
You're correct, one module, your phone, and enough igniters to fill your module and you're good to go! I don't think you'll be disappointed with this system. However, there is nothing wrong with the cheaper systems as well. I quickly outgrew my cheap 12 cue system and would have loved to go right into something like this back in the day.
If I have a show with 5 mods and a total of 57 cues. But then realized I created 1 cue too many, Let's say Mod 3 Cue 5. So I delete it in the show creator. Do I need to renumber the rest of the Mod 3 cues (bring them all down by 1) or can I leave an empty cue?
Great question! I covered series vs parallel wiring in this video: ruclips.net/video/TVQiaXPWnWM/видео.html With regard to the IGNITE system, you would need to make sure the connector is wired on the end of your chain. Also, the fuse igniters cannot be wired in series, so you will want to do those in parallel. If you're using the MJG Firewires, they can be wired in series or parallel. Hit me up if you have any questions!
For this video, I used a song that is royalty free and included with my editing software. You should be able to import any MP3 you have downloaded. If you're having issues, reach out to customer support and they'll be able to assist.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Yes but as I found out you have to customize the line. So If I fuse 3 cakes and want the duration I have to add the longest duration and be crafty with my description. I sent a message or request to the team. Would be great to add multiple fireworks to a single cue slot. Like a parent-child bom structure. And it would automatically use the longest duration. But for now I'll have to manually do it. Since I have 36 cues I mapped out with 42 cakes, 100 mortars, 30 roman candles and 6 missile batteries fused in groups.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Ah well that achieves it. In fact it’s even better and more versatile that way. You can fire mirrored product when you like but don’t commit all the cues to fire at the same time.
@@vampirerodgers2890 The system you can use over and over again. However, the igniters that connect from the module to the firework is one time use. You can look into FireFly that has reusable igniters to see if that's a better fit.
The internal battery is a 7.4v, 400mAh battery, so when it is full charged it will output about 8.4v and peak discharge of 6A. That will slowly decrease as the battery depletes. The specs for firing more than one igniter per cue are actually quite high and might make a standalone video on this specific topic.
@Jr V STEP fire is another way to manually fire, but instead of pushing cue buttons 1, 2, 3 etc, all you push is STEP and it automatically fires the next sequential cue.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Enable it and I'll try one just for fun. But with 25 Cobra 18 M mods I guess I'll stick! On a side note, can you fire Ignite with a Samsung Galaxy Tab A?
In my experience, those reusable clips are not very reliable. You have to clean them after each use and even when doing that, I have had them fail. I would rather use a one time use product and be done with it. The FireFly system on their website is $229 WITHOUT rechargeable batteries, so you'll be spending $10 in D batteries or buying the $40 recharge upgrade. So now the FireFly is $270 with recharge for 15 cues ($18 per cue) vs IGNITEs $190 for 18 cues with standard recharge support ($10.50 per cue, or if you want to throw in that one time use igniter, it's still only $11.25 per cue). So $18 FireFly vs $11.25 IGNITE a cue.
If anyone is interested in seeing me really push the system to the limit with a full six module, 100+ cue show, let me know and we will see what we can work out!
Yes of course, and that's where step fire would REALLY be handy.
@@mguerramd Oh no! At that point we would do fully automatic show!
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics I never count on the timing of 1.4 to be accurate. By step firing my scripted show I get no unwanted overlap nor dark sky. Of course these shows are not time scripted to music. They are a scripted sequence of events. I get perfect timing with my finger and the step button.
@@mguerramd
I use step fire more often than scripting myself on my shows. Not so much for pacing, but because kids like shooting fireworks and it's an easy safe way to let a five or six year old make things go boom on the 4th.
I don't think this system is geared to people that are that worried about black sky or too much sky puke. If it allows people to be creative I'm all for it. Hell, if it makes shooting fireworks safer because it's cheaper I'm really for it. I've got a 18R2, five modules, and a Cobra Show Creator subscription, so I'm a small timer compared to most of you. But that's a lot of money for most people. I'm all for innovation in this hobby. If a new company cuts the system price by 30% or 50% maybe that'll reduce some of the accidents that drive so many restrictive laws against aerial fireworks.
@@benjaminnoble2244 I have more modules than I need, CSC, Audio Box, 18R2, so don’t need this but I may get just one as a toy to play with. It seems so cool. They told me they don’t have step fire as a safety precaution because you don’t arm the modules, they are just hot. So you have to press once to pick a cue and once to fire it. That’s legit. But if they hid step fire in there as an advanced user function…😊
I am a designer at Europlá pyrotechnics, from Spain. Congratulations on your work !! All the best.
Thank you so much David!
Lo a diseñado pirotecnia Europla?
This pyro musical was one of my favorite so far! Great job!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for the demo and visit to Iowa Fireworks Farm. First 2 sold in 10 minutes!
This is Awesome Hardware!
Shout out to Joel and 319 Pyros for bombing in today.
Hawkeye Pyro is Alive and Strong!
Thanks for having me!
Really impressed with that little firing systems it on my cart for next purchase
It's a great step up from hand firing for sure!
Nice walk through, thanks for sharing .
I really like this for an e-firing option. It seems like a simple to use system.
Very cool. Good job explaining the system
Thank you Tom!
Great video Joel! I loved the tutorial. Now I need to get my hand on one!
Thank you James!
This is amazing! Great work!
Very good video thanks for the information I was looking for good show by the way
You're welcome!
This is awesome! I’m keeping this in mind
That's great to hear! I'll try to do more videos on it in the future as well
I'd be interested to see the long term reliability on this product. If it's reasonable, then this is pretty big jump in tech for smart device firing systems. Six modules at 18 cues with breakout board compatibility is pretty impressive. That and the price point being half of an 18M. Also, no need for a controller, and a free scripting software environment? Damn. Even with Bluetooth range limitations this could be a big contender for the backyard pyro market.
I think you might be surprised at the range you can get. I'll have a video out in a few days on my range experience.
Sounds great, looking forward to that video @@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics.
I agree until now this whole time I thought this was just a 18 cue system but now that I know you can have multiple firing modules this is a game changer. and yes I agree the limit of Bluetooth distance is a issue but can be dealt with.
I bought one this year. I hope everything goes smoothly
You can always call support if it doesn't.
awesome video man thank u
Great Demo, I just got mine. I was wondering in this demo we’re using ematch or talons? Ended up purchasing the talons from ignite also. How much pre-fire time would you recommend for a cake? How about if you use a leader fuse?
I used ematch in this video. The standard pre-fire time is 0.5s. If you clip the igniter to the base of the first tube, you'll get a quick ignition. This may require cutting the cardboard back on cakes to get right up against the tube.
Great video and looks like an awesome product- one thing I noticed though at 1:55 is the number of series and parallel ematches that it can handle seems to be switched. Looking forward to more!
Thank you! Actually no, those numbers are correct.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics wow that's awesome! That makes wiring multiple devices so much easier- I may have to buy one of these "just because"
Thanks again!
Lol there you go! In this video all of my hits were more than one in parallel and I did six on one hit. I hope to do a standalone video on max firing to see how far we can push it.
First off I'm a big fan! I have been a shooter for 1.3 for a number of years and I want to do my own thing but with 1.4 pro products, Would you recommend the ignite over the cobra?
Ignite is much cheaper to get into and works well for small shows. If you are planning on doing anything complex, or tightly scripted in the future, I'd go with a more professional system.
That is basically Cobra Show Creator but in a free version, that’s awesome! If you have played around with the Ignite software, does it have the same features as Cobra?
Yes you are correct. The Show Creator software is very comparable in features yes. Since it's a web URL and free, anyone is welcome to go check it out at designer.ignitefiringsystems.com
Thanks!
The shots seemed very well timed considering there was no pre fire timing, was the video and sound edited at the end? What would you recommend on a pre fire Time considering fuse burn time and lift time?
That is because I was using the MJG Firewire Initiators, which are instant ignition and directly matched into the firework. If you're using standard igniters and clip to the base of the tube as close as you can get to the firework, I'd do something like 0.5s (which should be default).
Very cool. Since the uploaded audio actually plays in the Ignite app during the show, I'm curious to know if it can also connect to a bluetooth audio source so that the audio is correctly in sync with the show.
You absolutely could!
That's valuable information. Thank you! :)
Wow great video. I really like this system. I really wish it had longer range though. What is the fastest cue time you can shoot at? Does it have a 1sec delay like the Cobra 18R, or no delay like the 18R2? Also I have a ton of regular ematch. Wonder if I can just make some plug adapters to put into the cues so I can use up the remaining inventory of my regular ematch?
You might be surprised by the range! I also did a range video and on my phone (line of sight) I got up to 1300' with the unit on a 5 gallon bucket. Yes you can use regular ematch with the quickplug cables. Technically there is a slight delay, only because you have to select which cue you want to fire, then push fire and it gives you a little toast showing that it fired. You can also fire more than one igniter/match from the same cue.
I bought 3 modules for the 4th and only had 2 FTF from clips that fell apart when ignited. Show went amazingly well if you adapt to its limitations.
So it’s been two years since this video…. Would you still recommend? And does it shoot well?
Thank You Joel
Where do you recommend buying igniters?
Hey Joel. I've bought 1 of these systems and I'm wondering what you used for the test bulb? Did you wire in a LED bulb to do it?
I used these and saved some of the connector ends to install them into. www.cobrafiringsystems.com/bulb_test
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics excellent thank you and happy 4th of July!!
@@coondogg729 You as well!
I got this system. 4 module can hold about 72 - 500 gram cakes. Still have to program mine out. Have about 75% of my stuff in from 7 suppliers and rest shipping out this week to me.
That is great to hear!
Great video!
Thank you!
Can you program it so ques automatically fire?? Like say your first firework is 30 seconds, so que fires then 30 seconds later que 2 fires, that one lasts for 45 seconds so after 45 seconds que 3 fires and so on and so on.
What is better the ignite 18 or firefly?
Looks awesome. Ps we our never to old to collect awesome stickers especially when it comes to pyro ones
Facts! I have my pyro cabinet that is starting to build a nice collection.
Hi Joel, what's the best way to fuse 12- 200g cakes? Wrap the fuse around all or connect all fuses with a leader fuse?
I would connect all fuse to a leader fuse. I've done something like this in the past. ruclips.net/video/nk3QarSMhEQ/видео.html
So this is anywhere from 200-400 depending on 18 or 36 queue and all I would need is long ignition cables ? Would you say this is worth it for my first system or should I just get a cheap 12 queue and get used to it ?
You're correct, one module, your phone, and enough igniters to fill your module and you're good to go! I don't think you'll be disappointed with this system. However, there is nothing wrong with the cheaper systems as well. I quickly outgrew my cheap 12 cue system and would have loved to go right into something like this back in the day.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics okay thank you very much I think I’m gonna get the 36 queue for my first
@@Matspyropowerhouse That is awesome to hear! You'll love it
was the music playing on your phone for the video and/or how would you bluetooth to an external speaker for larger event..?
Yes, your phone will play the show audio and you can bluetooth to a speaker or hard connect the phone to your sound system.
Basically DJ software for fireworks.
That's a good way to word it!
Was ignite created by Scott and the team to just be a cheaper more backyard friendly alternative to Cobra?
Yep!
If I have a show with 5 mods and a total of 57 cues. But then realized I created 1 cue too many, Let's say Mod 3 Cue 5. So I delete it in the show creator. Do I need to renumber the rest of the Mod 3 cues (bring them all down by 1) or can I leave an empty cue?
It should auto cue them all for you. So if you deleted cue 7 for example, cue 8+ should all automatically shift down to fill cue 7.
How do u so the series and parallel im useing this system this year
Great question! I covered series vs parallel wiring in this video: ruclips.net/video/TVQiaXPWnWM/видео.html
With regard to the IGNITE system, you would need to make sure the connector is wired on the end of your chain. Also, the fuse igniters cannot be wired in series, so you will want to do those in parallel. If you're using the MJG Firewires, they can be wired in series or parallel. Hit me up if you have any questions!
Sorry for a silly question. Does black cat not load in the catalogue?
It is not. Some brands are missing if they do not provide the content.
Where do you get your music ? I can’t seem to be able to add any or have any compatible songs . Any help would be great
For this video, I used a song that is royalty free and included with my editing software. You should be able to import any MP3 you have downloaded. If you're having issues, reach out to customer support and they'll be able to assist.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics I was able to get it to work ! Thanks alot !
Awesome
*#BBQRando* LOVED THE VIDEO! _10/10_
Are you cueing 2 cakes on one channel? or does each cake take up a channel and they are programmed to fire together??
I put more than one cake per cue. The roman candles I actually had six on one cue to fire at the same time.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Yes but as I found out you have to customize the line. So If I fuse 3 cakes and want the duration I have to add the longest duration and be crafty with my description. I sent a message or request to the team. Would be great to add multiple fireworks to a single cue slot. Like a parent-child bom structure. And it would automatically use the longest duration. But for now I'll have to manually do it. Since I have 36 cues I mapped out with 42 cakes, 100 mortars, 30 roman candles and 6 missile batteries fused in groups.
@@toddg8019 Right, as long as you use the longest duration, you should be good. That would be cool with the BOM structure that you mentioned.
what is the voltage of that test LED?
Where do you buy more clips ?
ignitefiringsystems.com
Can you assign multiple modules to the same color?
Not currently. You can script multiple modules to fire at the same time though.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Ah well that achieves it. In fact it’s even better and more versatile that way. You can fire mirrored product when you like but don’t commit all the cues to fire at the same time.
Can you customize time in between each Q???
Yes you can! I do that in the later part of the video using the scripting software.
Is this license free this firework ignite fireworks luncher
Yes it is
Can you add multiple songs?
Absolutely! You can check out the design software for free at designer.ignitefiringsystems.com
Well I'll be damned. I'm 14 hours early.
So can does it all come with stuff you need
You have to buy the igniters separately. They are one-time use, so one per firework you want to light.
So which one I can use over over again
@@vampirerodgers2890 The system you can use over and over again. However, the igniters that connect from the module to the firework is one time use. You can look into FireFly that has reusable igniters to see if that's a better fit.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics do you need a license for them
@@vampirerodgers2890 Nope, not at all!
I wouldn’t have the music that loud but overall nice video
Thank you! Shoot, you have to have the music turned up in order to hear it over the fireworks.
What is the volt output on the ques
The internal battery is a 7.4v, 400mAh battery, so when it is full charged it will output about 8.4v and peak discharge of 6A. That will slowly decrease as the battery depletes. The specs for firing more than one igniter per cue are actually quite high and might make a standalone video on this specific topic.
Can you step fire by simply pressing one button?
Step firing is not currently supported.
@Jr V STEP fire is another way to manually fire, but instead of pushing cue buttons 1, 2, 3 etc, all you push is STEP and it automatically fires the next sequential cue.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Enable it and I'll try one just for fun. But with 25 Cobra 18 M mods I guess I'll stick! On a side note, can you fire Ignite with a Samsung Galaxy Tab A?
@@mguerramd Yeah it should work on a tablet just fine
Why would somebody pay $190 and have to constantly buy $15 packs of clips? As opposed to a Firefly system for $220 and the clips are reusable.
In my experience, those reusable clips are not very reliable. You have to clean them after each use and even when doing that, I have had them fail. I would rather use a one time use product and be done with it. The FireFly system on their website is $229 WITHOUT rechargeable batteries, so you'll be spending $10 in D batteries or buying the $40 recharge upgrade. So now the FireFly is $270 with recharge for 15 cues ($18 per cue) vs IGNITEs $190 for 18 cues with standard recharge support ($10.50 per cue, or if you want to throw in that one time use igniter, it's still only $11.25 per cue). So $18 FireFly vs $11.25 IGNITE a cue.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics so it all boils down to whether or not the clips are truly reusable and reliable.
I'll stick with a torch.
Nothing wrong with that!
I always did torch but I want to watch it more now too. Plus I had a mishap that exploded very close to me. Now I can be hundreds of feet away.