Marvel Rivals Is The BEST Thing to Happen to Overwatch

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @haunted-cf8yg
    @haunted-cf8yg 13 дней назад +214

    Balancing solution: if everything is OP then nothing is OP

    • @GoldenGoblinSupport
      @GoldenGoblinSupport 13 дней назад +15

      Fr I main Adam Warlock you don't know how dirty I do em. Think you killed the whole team? I levitated behind a wall revived everyone and put them back to full health, go again.

    • @Seoul_Soldier
      @Seoul_Soldier 13 дней назад +13

      Yes but actually no. Hela, Luna, and Hawkeye straight up ruin the game. I'm tired of this dumb ass take.

    • @xotristan
      @xotristan 13 дней назад +24

      @@Seoul_Soldier Then quit the game. You're in the minority and contributed to Overwatch feeling soulless.

    • @GoldenGoblinSupport
      @GoldenGoblinSupport 13 дней назад

      @Seoul_Soldier Shut up if I can ping a a headshot on a Hawkeye across the map with Adam Warlock's piss bullets you can figure out how to counterplay anyone saying this is a bad take isn't taking the time to get better in the game. If everyone is OP than nothing is OP means that if you actually put in the time to learn your character than you'll get better. Everyone fails to understand this is a 6v6 TEAM game and thinks they have to be good against EVERY character.

    • @GoldenGoblinSupport
      @GoldenGoblinSupport 13 дней назад +5

      @@xotristan for real you just have to play you'll get better it takes time. If you think a character is too op it's because you don't understand why YOUR character is OP. I main Adam Warlock you think I'm supposed to be headshotting the Hawkeye from across the map? I learned to spot him for a distance, ping, lay out a lot of cover fire forcing him to get to his cover, and then I breathe for a second to line up the headshot the second he peeks out and I one shot him.

  • @Don_.X
    @Don_.X 12 дней назад +40

    I think part of the reason Overwatch lost its spark is that the characters more or less feel 'solved'. You have your designated role and you go stand in your spot and do your thing. I hope that the team up mechanic in rivals allows characters to always have a fresh aspect to them. If Reinhart and Brigitte randomly had hulk and wolverines 'gamma fastball' added one season that would completely changes how you would play those 2 (or maybe the double shield they showed in a pve trailer instead).

  • @xotristan
    @xotristan 13 дней назад +109

    Rivals honestly shouldn't be a competitive game. The focus should be for the casual players. If we learned anything from Overwatch at least.

    • @Kayronq
      @Kayronq 13 дней назад +11

      No matter what a game does everyone will keep getting better and if you can’t keep up thats the reason these games will not be fun to you

    • @poro9084
      @poro9084 13 дней назад +6

      the problem is that you get money from competetive angle

    • @Droulix
      @Droulix 13 дней назад +11

      ​@Kayronq well, yeah most games end up becoming competitive especially if there's a PvP element, it's just natural. The difference being is if you force a game to be competitive, it might not turn out to be the best

    • @mightaswell
      @mightaswell 12 дней назад +5

      Honestly the balance between comp and casual can coexist but Overwatchs issue was basically ditching casual for competitive and then trying to force it to be a thing rather than letting people grow and organize on their own

    • @accountlol7409
      @accountlol7409 11 дней назад +1

      I think it should still have a competitive mode wether it’s balanced or not so those people can go over THERE and not be in my matches so I can play the game more casually

  • @KonFlameBeatz
    @KonFlameBeatz 12 дней назад +11

    Loving how everything in MR feels over-the-top powerful-it’s like a game where every character gets to be the main character- except 1-20 spiderman lol. Hopefully, this competition pushes Blizzard to step up and remind us why we loved OW in the first place.

    • @cosaposa
      @cosaposa 12 дней назад +2

      Spiderman players are low K/D because lore-wise Spiderman doesnt kill

    • @l8on675
      @l8on675 11 дней назад

      But Blizzard comes up with, MR will just steal

    • @psyhense
      @psyhense 9 дней назад

      @@l8on675 Lot's of games do that. It's fine, because then Blizz can "steal" some ideas from Marvel that people like. It's a win win. The competition will help both games.

    • @l8on675
      @l8on675 9 дней назад

      @@psyhense I hope OW does simple things like implement a 3rd person view and floods pop culture with decades worth of media.

  • @naka3339
    @naka3339 10 дней назад +9

    ppl are having fun in Rivals because they are new, and most ppl are just trying stuff. But the balancing/meta issues with Rivals is way worse than OW. eventually all the games will start playing the same as more people gets better

    • @KindOldRaven
      @KindOldRaven 5 дней назад

      A lot of people have totally forgotten (or weren't born yet lmao) when OW1 launched. It was so similar to the vibe this game has. And... well... they needed to start changing things and in the end we got 5v5 role lock etc so... I wonder if MR can keep doing it in a slightly different way. I'm all for competition.

  • @AngelStarcraftHD
    @AngelStarcraftHD День назад +1

    i like that with the little dolphin you can quad kill and still heal 95% of the time

  • @Ram-Rod-Please
    @Ram-Rod-Please 13 дней назад +23

    Over watch “ our hero’s and gameplay is just better, we have been out for years and players are more familiar - there’s no way rivals defeats us no worries “
    Rivals : Jeff the shark “ YUM YUM”
    Over watch : 💀

    • @Mayohills
      @Mayohills 12 дней назад

      kid named finger:

  • @TapeDK
    @TapeDK 13 дней назад +24

    "i lost" was real

  • @02owo32
    @02owo32 12 дней назад +4

    If there's one thing that every Blizzard games player knows, is that they will disappoint you... badly... several times...
    Overwatch have a special place in my heart, but at this point I don't expect anything anymore

  • @alyasVictorio
    @alyasVictorio 8 дней назад +1

    3:28 It's not the 1st time NetEase did this with Marvel Rivals, they also launched their other Marvel game on mobile too which is a MOBA called Marvel Super War

  • @LocalBoyfu
    @LocalBoyfu 13 дней назад +10

    everyone talking about how MR is gonna "kill" OW, no one talking about how HEALTHY competition can be for games like this, i cant wait to see how HOPEFULLY blizz steps it up to compete with MR!! ♥(EDIT) MEANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS

    • @BleakNote
      @BleakNote 12 дней назад +1

      Yeah but this game is fresh, has different mechanics from OW and a new company in charge with way more recognizable heroes. Plus the potential for new heroes and villains is crazy, I'm not saying it'll ever reach 100 but if it even passed 50, I'd be impressed. 100 is a pipe dream, imagine the variety.

    • @LocalBoyfu
      @LocalBoyfu 12 дней назад

      @@BleakNote i just wanna see both games thrive and continue to grow!

  • @theceptorperson9570
    @theceptorperson9570 7 дней назад +1

    I love seeing in every Marvel Rivals reviews things that Team Fortress 2 did since 2007 but Overwatch always getting the credit
    (It display who and what weapon killed the opponent?! Wow wonder what game also did that)

  • @shawngorski9714
    @shawngorski9714 13 дней назад +23

    Overwatches main issue was they made a complex game and made it easier over time, Jeff Kaplan words himself.
    Players will naturally get more and more irritated at the heros with cheesy stuff, so you gotta spread the cheese around more, have some hard heros and easy but you gotta draw limits, like they added moira who's entirely comprised of auto aim and get out of jail free cards or sombra who has invis and automated cc... these heros are entirely comprised of cheesy stuff that over time will annoy players and since there are no parts of their kits you can shift power too, they'll just remain forever annoying or bastion and torb, I mean torbs original design was alright, he had to actually interact with his turret with the scrap but now he just places it and forgets while he runs off to bust a tanks balls all game... and this turret still 1v1s players in silvers... yea what a great new player experience... namore is Marvels torb and he needs to land headshots for the max dmg from his turrets as well as to control them and theyre onna timed duration, he's still easier because he has turrets and slash dmg on his spears but his kits designed to allow for a skill ceiling, landing headshots with the spears and you can really pop off as him and the flanky mobile heros who gotta deal with your turrets won't feel completely cheesed.
    But instead they kept adding more heros like orisa.. notice how all marvel tanks require some task for their mitigation, orisa and mauga just press buttons and continue shooting... or brig, if a support is gonna be able to defend and keep an entire team alive with massive aoe heals and automated heal packs, they shouldn't also be unkillable in their backline.
    Ow has always had these easier heros and a decade of people dealing with them has left them salty, and while this is inevitable for these type of games, you can at least combat it by cleaning up your hero designs which overwatch tried but failed everytime, they reworked heros only for them to function the exact same but with even more oppressive stuff like hog being reworked because people hate his 1 shot, so they gave him cc which if he pulls you into His cc trap he still 1 shots you and since he leaves you with 20 hp, he kills you most the time anyway but now you can't stall out his heals which means hog now has no counterplay outside of ana or your entire team ganging up on him at once or like how many reworks has sombra gotten and she still hacks players entire kits away with auto aim? 😂
    It's more than a honeymoon phase, marvel rivals has observed the overwatch community closely and they implemented every good balance philosophy that has been discussed, they even fixed hanzo and widowmaker by making hawkeye and black widow... it's honestly insane how much more well designed their hero designs are, I think you could actually put them onna skill curve graph and it would look very balanced in terms of skill to reward, which the more balanced that is, the longer your game will sustain without your players getting mad, especially if you put alot moving parts in every kit for alot of balance tuning knobs, and the worst part is the more knobs the more interesting the heros are so idk why ow was always so afraid to add depth to torb and moira, I'm sure even the people playing them woukd enjoy having a higher skill ceiling so they can maybe actually play their heros past gold 😂 why should someone be punished for enjoying moiras fun flanky playstyle just because the devs figured she needed to have all her abilities be automated which results in you not exactly being able to make moira anything besides a pun stomper that gaurds the gates of overwatch from new genji mains lol, genji probably got more people addicted to ow than the r34 yet they created moira and put a massive damper on millions of future genji mains inna single hero release 😂

    • @ItSpiatz
      @ItSpiatz 13 дней назад +3

      have you noticed how much cheesy stuff there is in marvel rivals?

    • @shawngorski9714
      @shawngorski9714 13 дней назад

      @ItSpiatz like?

    • @shawngorski9714
      @shawngorski9714 13 дней назад +2

      @ItSpiatz ofc there's some cheesy stuff but the point is, it's used sparingly, like sombra.. who thought it was a good idea to give invis, auto aim and crowd control all on the same character with an ability that just gets them out of the fight immediately? I could have taken one look at that in 2016 and told you it was a terrible idea, but invis on psylocke is nice and works well because shes a 5 star difficult hero with alot of skill shots and a cool mechanic with her recall blades, plus the game has no hard-core auto aim yet, besides starlord ult but that's an ult, and yet ow has it onna ability that stalls your character and than anytime you play doom or echo into a sombra, you get the hero fantasy of being a bike with iffy breaks as you get stalled out every few seconds and can never really go anywhere 😂
      Nothing like that exists in marvel rivals as of rn, and judging by the fact every hero with something sorta cheesy actually than has downsides usually or ways to express skill through it, I would imagine they're gonna keep this up, while overwatch micro buffs the unkillable horse that stands still and presses buttons to be immortal for the millionth time..

    • @omaresz1
      @omaresz1 13 дней назад +4

      ok holy yap but hol on his writing is this fire?

    • @pixeldot7171
      @pixeldot7171 12 дней назад +1

      Really agree with a lot of your statements but marvel rivals isnt really that shiny good example , just because of the amount of CC(abilities that make u unable to move or do any attack) every other character can do , even supports. Right now lot of people are new and can’t utlize the 0.1 sec CC but in a few months thya 0.1sec will be all u need to kill them or chain CC.

  • @subject498
    @subject498 9 дней назад +1

    It really seems that everyone forgets that OW was the most fun for the most people on release when nobody knew what they were doing yet and people were just having fun messing around trying out a bunch of stuff. That's the main thing with ow and It will be similar with rivals where once a certain meta is established It will quickly suck most of the fun out of It for a lot of people and then a steady playerbase develops and slowly drops off. These games are impossible to balance properly so It shouldn't be a major factor.

  • @RatedAwesome
    @RatedAwesome 9 дней назад +1

    I never touched Overwatch. I always thought it was for sweaty, over competitve players and that it was too basic for me to enjoy.Marvel Rivals is my first game in the genre and its made me see the error of my ways. Overwatch will get a try from me now

  • @CookiePrince52
    @CookiePrince52 12 дней назад +2

    I'm a huge fan of Marvel Rivals and Overwatch 2, so I'm hoping both games will learn and evolve from each other. I'm looking forward to playing both games in 2025.

  • @MrQuest0
    @MrQuest0 9 дней назад +1

    1:39 you can't be serious saying this and showing Wolverine, who looks the opposite of what he should be wearing.

  • @leediaz5690
    @leediaz5690 11 дней назад +1

    Thanks to Marvel Rivals for forcing Overwatch 2 to give good free skins this Christmas

  • @khele2k
    @khele2k 11 дней назад +2

    I think I'm done with Overwatch. It's not 5v5, it's not role queue handcuffs, it's not even that Marvel Rivals heroes have better kits.... it's that I've played Marvel Rivals A LOT lately and there's no nine-game losing streaks.
    I've always felt like when you have a good game you get thrown into lobbies that are much higher skill in Overwatch. I'm feeling this in Rivals too. The difference is when I get clobbered in Marvel Rivals and I have a much better game the very next game as if it drops me back down. With Overwatch it's like you're stuck at that skill for way too long and you just keep losing.
    Even though I know when I play well Rivals is going to boost me, at least I don't get stuck there for two hours of losing like in Overwatch. I've always wondered if it's just an issue with hero shooters. Now that I know it's Overwatch matchmaking I can't play it anymore.

  • @Trident_Gaming03
    @Trident_Gaming03 10 дней назад

    "I'd love to see them add the Fantastic 4"
    Oh, do I have news for you

  • @Borkyius
    @Borkyius 10 дней назад

    I do like the idea of "If everyone is OP, noone is" but some hereos kit/ultimate are def stronger than others.
    (Looking at you, flying iron fist)

    • @jcartist5881
      @jcartist5881 10 дней назад

      I do hope they stay to this philosophy because esports and pro play are what makes a game too competitive and cancerous.
      For once I'd love a game that focuses on actual fun and chaos than stressing to win just to get a problematic source of dopamine and feel slightly better about themselves with devs focusing on the money competitive brings instead of caring about the casual players.

  • @theone8501
    @theone8501 13 дней назад +3

    OW onboarding has made comp so insanely toxic now it's so bad

  • @Yuki_Ika7
    @Yuki_Ika7 12 дней назад +1

    I don't play the game but my mains would be Squirrel Girl and Jeff

  • @DavidBerger-g2h
    @DavidBerger-g2h 12 дней назад +1

    Jeff humbled Overwatch

    • @Yuki_Ika7
      @Yuki_Ika7 12 дней назад

      His name Jeff!!!

  • @josephwalk1747
    @josephwalk1747 10 дней назад

    Marvel rivals actually convinced me to play overwatch2, im trying to get the free holiday stuff on both at the moment

  • @Jankyo
    @Jankyo 12 дней назад +1

    The sweats will ruin it, give it another 6 months or so. Its already happening with characters like hawkeye / blackwidow coming from their 5000 hour OW account

  • @Danlight1911
    @Danlight1911 9 дней назад

    All I know is, Overwatch has THREE FREE SKINS in the Winter event. Usually we're lucky to get even ONE.
    Blizzard knows they need to step up their game.

  • @denism7276
    @denism7276 11 дней назад

    OW cinematics were beautiful. But it's sad to see that the story went absolutely no where...even though it was SOOOO HYPED UP.

  • @TruthSerum123x
    @TruthSerum123x 12 дней назад +1

    I'd say just literally keep introducing characters and still make every single person OP. When everyone is a Supe, no one is.

  • @elfireii328
    @elfireii328 10 дней назад

    Also getting cced in third person feels way better than getting cced in first person.

  • @David-nh2dn
    @David-nh2dn 13 дней назад +3

    nah not armless tiger man 😮

  • @bomjur
    @bomjur 10 дней назад

    I'm impatiently waiting for blade in rivals. Love that sucker

  • @y-i-k-s
    @y-i-k-s 12 дней назад

    Marvel Rivals and Overwatch is what Palworld and Pokémon is to the hero shooter genre

  • @Chad.Commenter
    @Chad.Commenter 11 дней назад

    As long as esports players don't get involved in Rivals, we will be fine. Sweats have all these other games, let the casuals have ONE game where everyone can just have fun.

  • @avfx
    @avfx 12 дней назад

    Player of Overwatch since 1 season 1.. uninstalled it today ... Marvel Rivals ... LETS GOOOO!!!

  • @scr4ppy22
    @scr4ppy22 3 дня назад

    Press Mantis ult or Jeff ult and win game. Rivals in a nutshell :) When people get tired of this, they will leave the game. The honeymoon period is strong rn because there has been no good comp games for a while. The balancing in this game is god awful, and the worst I've felt in a new release in years.
    GLHF!

  • @BabysitterSky
    @BabysitterSky 12 дней назад

    When I'm getting yelled at by my own team for picking the "wrong character", that's when I knew OW was done for me. Also, screw Blizzard.
    I hope Rivals stays as far away from that toxicity as possible

  • @mr_gl00m32
    @mr_gl00m32 11 дней назад

    I am really enjoying Rivals... But goddammit I miss Overwatch.

  • @cherryazulmusic
    @cherryazulmusic 12 дней назад

    God i loved overwatch! I was one of the few that stayed after the 5 man switch. They killed their own game slowly

  • @MinkieWinkle
    @MinkieWinkle 10 дней назад

    What OW failed to understand is, the chaos is what made it good. they over balanced it. they took away the players choice, by forcing people to play a certain way.

  • @josephhakim2344
    @josephhakim2344 10 дней назад

    They need more then 2 heroes a year I was always pissed off that overwatch is making a shit Tom of money and they add one map and 2 heroes a year if ur lucky
    Crazy how I hop on over watch 2 and im still constantly playing the same maps as I was 10 years ago. Nothing has changed besides balance. And their community glazes tf outta them for it

  • @kostriktor1266
    @kostriktor1266 13 дней назад

    rivals has achievements and therefor youre guaranteed to have dumb teammates

  • @Nokipan
    @Nokipan 5 дней назад

    what even is overwatch

  • @0w0MarshiMell0
    @0w0MarshiMell0 12 дней назад

    Ir0nFist fr0m J0J0😂?

  • @DarrenLucas-up6ki
    @DarrenLucas-up6ki 12 дней назад

    Honestly I’ve got about 50 hours and it’s already kinda boring. No one wants to pick right, and honestly early overwatch played way better than this game. Maps are bland, single player it is lol

  • @OMIOBR
    @OMIOBR 13 дней назад

    Jojo

  • @MariusMoldrup
    @MariusMoldrup 12 дней назад

    Marvel: everything is op. therefore the game is balanced.

  • @Seoul_Soldier
    @Seoul_Soldier 13 дней назад +12

    Marvel Rivals is on a fast track to where Overwatch 2 is now. Enjoy it while it lasts, the community is already ruining the game.

    • @markus-ks9sf
      @markus-ks9sf 13 дней назад +6

      How so. Explain

    • @theone8501
      @theone8501 13 дней назад +3

      @@markus-ks9sf insanely toxic, every comp game i've loaded into has started off with someone crying about something, OW ruined it

    • @TheGodlyGamerMugen
      @TheGodlyGamerMugen 13 дней назад +4

      @@theone8501have had a blast no toxic games so far even in ranked

    • @theone8501
      @theone8501 13 дней назад +2

      @@TheGodlyGamerMugen depends what time you play I think, early is okay but when I hop on late it's so bad

    • @Kayronq
      @Kayronq 13 дней назад +5

      @@theone8501 Its the opposite me early in the day I loaded in with a four stack and the entire enemy team was in chat typing stuff like “they got chillas easy” win then out of nowhere one someone said “chillas I hope your mom gets cancer and you can’t do anything about it” we gave chillas a confidence boost and he went 36-5. Thats the only really negative experience Ive had except for people saying “(role) diff”

  • @qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq704
    @qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq704 11 дней назад

    the game is gunna die 60k players gone in the first 2 weeks trust me itll last 4 months

  • @revathibodapati9066
    @revathibodapati9066 14 дней назад +1

    7 minutes 12 views 1 like 0 comments bro fell off

  • @johnnyrebel4real166
    @johnnyrebel4real166 12 дней назад

    but you can be the marvel vs capcom psylocke, but being sexy have a cost

  • @Thrillhouse89
    @Thrillhouse89 10 дней назад

    Reason OW is crap and makes you depressed is because. Yesterday I was Ana, I had 100% scoped accuracy, 4k more heals than second person, same damage as my dps, 5 sleeps in first 4 to 10 mins and we couldn't push the point a meter.
    Second, I go reaper I'm vs new tank hazard he blocks and does dmg to me, I shoot him 10 times, he takes 0 dmg then kills me.
    I go Rein, I get nanod, I swing my hammer against mauga who presses his heal abil about 12 times, he takes no dmg.
    I go Zarya, I grav the mauga and our hanzo ults him, so 2x ults and Mauga takes 0 damage.
    You aren't rewarded for playing almost perfectly, you are punished because of horrendous balance issues brought in by super tanks because 5v5 was a lie to make you pay for skins and features.
    It's all about money and all about greed, they have bled the greatest game of the year in 2016 dry to the point it's depressing to play and I love this game