Did Viking Berserkers EAT the Fly Agaric in Battle? What We Think We Know about Amanita muscaria
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2022
- Did viking berserkers use mushrooms? Maybe not. Today I explore the commonly held belief that vikings may have used flly agaric mushrooms to induce their rage in battle. Hard to say if this is true or note, but I lay forth a few reasons why it might not be so.
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From my own experience, the "Berserker Rage" is induced by the warrior himself... if they happened to feed mushrooms to an "over the top angry killing machine", it would probably not induce that state of rage by itself, but amplify the feelings that he was already having. Its not a coincidence that Berserkers were an elite group, not every human can enter this state by themselves.
Yep that's what I was thinking .
I can. It’s not good. Then again I’m descended from Viking berserkers. Don’t need mushrooms for it and it taps you into bad spirits. I was lucky to not kill anyone when it hit me even as a child.
Yeah I’m a berserker too. I need sooooo many mushrooms to get all whatever. It’s intense, man.
@@rhabdob3895 Why the sarcasm? It’s not good to go berserker.
The Berserker is simply a mental fearless bastard. Nothing to do with how big you are physically. After all I've been in many a physical confrontation where I laid waste to opponents much larger than myself, because I can go to the next level in ultra violence.
I state this out of objectivity not boastfulness.
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Psilocybin containing mushrooms save my life. The drastically reduced my benzodiazepine withdrawal allowing me to quite illicit pill addiction after three years of heavy daily use before it would had became medically dangerous to quit
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I am feeling the same way too. I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels. I am also glad to be a part of this community.
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From my understanding from folk lore here in scandinavia, we didn't eat it, we drank it.
if you ask me Amanitas description of her head getting red lines up perfectly and as she says it makes you very focused I feel like if you're focused on something like a medieval battle then the berserker would be very focused on killing people.
furthermore, again from local folk lore it was also used outside of battle for other things such as drinking it before intercourse, this suggests that it didn't cause the anger and violence.
anyway they put other things in the drink as well, might be a different recipe depending on the desired outcome.
Maybe it was the 'norm' to just drink it, but the Berserkers may be an exception and eaten it raw to get the stimulating energizing effect.
@@germanicelt no
I myself have taken a fair number of amanita muscaria, I have held ceremony with it and I have given it to close friends, there's one person I who has terrible nerve damage in his leg that causes him constant pain, but on Amity to mysteria I witnessed him run through the woods.
I think it's important to remember the set behind your intention of any psychedelic, the amanita can focus you but what if you were to focus that towards your rage towards your destructive tendencies, when we talk about berserkers we're talking about Men of war of battle and that's what they wanted out of that experience.
The actions of those Berserker were not the actions of men on this fungi. They were the actions of men on henbane.
Strange I feel relief in my plantar facitis I have ran now for three days without foot pain!
@Jafmanz I'm waiting to this, but that's quite the assertion to make.When it's just an idea that was proposed by Some archeologists they never Stated it to be fact. And that's only because they found a few seeds at a burial.
What she described matches the ancient description perfectly, it can pick you up until your body metabolism catches up, at which point, torpor for days. Perhaps they just had a unique way of consuming it for such dramatic results
If they knew them as a powerful consciousness altering mushroom, I can imagine that they ate it all the time.
Not just potentially before battle.
They're end goal is to reach Valhalla.
A place that is closed to all cowards and those who have not died in battle.
I can also picture them as they spend their lives becoming the most terrifying, the most violent , the most beast mode viking on the battle Field.
They would be called upon to be a guest weapon in specific key battles where they would be"released" on the field like ordinance .
I believe their Sessions with the local psychedelic flora did not include ANY of the barefoot, crystal hippie, tie die , peace and love thoughts of present. When they ran naked through the woods ,
they didn't chase some drop dead cute drop out with flowers in her hair,
They were just doing their daily routine of killing bears and elk with an Axe.
Berserkers weren't just elite soldiers, they left their clans in childhood and lived in the wilderness as an animal.
They would train everyday all day like Chinese monks.
They would choose a life of solitude to become a berserker.
They weren't like men in bear suits, they were more like bears in man suits.
years of dedicated living in the wild, and pulling supernatural powers from a deep spiritual connection to the land and the ferocious predators they would embody.
I love how you wrote this.
@@sep7658 It's pretty cool for sure.
Very well written.
You're sure making up a lot of stuff 👍
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Seen a lot of these walking my dog this morning they are beautiful. This time of year in England there are a lot of mushrooms growing and I love to look at them and try to identify them. Keep the videos coming really enjoy them.
I’m not saying one way or the other if the Berserkers used Amanita Muscaria, but I think we should be wary of putting our own cultural conceptions on other cultures, just because in our culture we tend to associate psychedelic drugs with a “peace and love” kind of vibe. Another example of this is hashish. The word assassin reportedly comes from the word hashish, and apparently the people called assassins may have smoked hashish before doing their deeds, something I cannot imagine doing while under the influence of that drug.
Not reportedly, allegedly. After some research I found the hashish story to be a bit of a stretch.
@@murrijuana2842 I’m not surprised, it always seemed a little hard to believe. But I think my point about not projecting our cultural tendencies on other cultures (especially past cultures) still makes some sense. It may well be that the Viking Berserkers didn’t use these mushrooms, but I don’t think Amanita Dreamer’s anecdotes about how the mushrooms affect her constitute evidence against that idea. A drug that produces a peaceful high in our culture might produce a very different experience in a different cultural context.
Drugs are what falsely is sold in the pharmacy as medicine. Psycodelics does not induce any states of mind. What they do is to open up your capability to experience those states.
According to ones intentions one might not experience a peaceful state, but access Hell or a maybe a warrior state. I believe that you are right that culture may to some degree determine the outcome.
the assassin's would get "high" so that they would fool other people into thinking they were if no danger or less than they were. False sense of security until it's too late. Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
The Arabic word ḥašīš also meant general herbage, like the English word "grass". That was also more likely to be one of the tropane poisons like henbane. They cause extreme suggestibility and quite often also cause amnesia. They also cause brain and bodily damage at quite low doses. i know several people who were mentally crippled from using datura and never recovered.
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I love these videos and the science behind the mushroom! Thank you for sharing this information! I love mushrooms and they have made major positive improvements in my life🍄
I've tried Reishi and Chaga, from a decade ago. Recently Lions Mane for the first time. I'm about to get into Cordyceps again.
Getting really excited to harvest some of these soon!! Weather is almost there where I live :D Sadly we don't seem to get many liberty caps anymore :( but loads of fly agaric consistently and I think I prefer them. As Amanita Dreamer was talking about they're very versatile and work differently depending on your preparation. I always used to decarboxylate them believing the ibutenic acid to be really toxic and the relaxation from the muscimol is amazing especially for anyone who suffers from insomnia or anxiety. Definitely going to experiment more with the fresh mushrooms this year though :) Thank you for helping break down the horrible misconceptions about this amazing fungus!
So how did your harvesting of last autumn Amanita go? Did you experiment with it raw?
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Mushrooms have had a massive positive influence on my life and I believe they have many many amazing benefits 🙌
Which mushrooms have you found to be most beneficial for you?
Found a huge beautiful Amanita this past summer. Absolutely beautiful! Took some great pictures and let it be, because I didn’t know what it was. Now I know!!
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I personally think they used amanita psilocybin and henbane. As far as a drug induced rage goes I don't believe it was the drugs making them angry. They were probably just angry to begin with and used the drugs to heighten that anger. Through my own experience with psilocybin your usually very happy and laughing at everything with amanita I've not had enough experience with it yet and have never smoked henbane yet.
I wonder if they are some other herb that blocked the sedative effects so they kept getting higher and more unstable
@@evanleclaire well psilocybin keeps you from falling asleep so that's the 1st one I'd think
do not smoke henbane
So, would it be okay to micro-dose Amanita and Psilocybin at the same time?
@@22minecraftguy brew ale or mead with henbane instead. Smoking it I dont think work.
I found when i ate them raw a few bites it gave me energy, focus, clarity and strength. Dried and or heated is more for shamanic, trance and dreamwork. I could see how they would use it for battle, it helps you enter flow state and has better/cleaner energy than coffee/caffeine.
I have it the same way, but raw its stronger even euphoria, energy, music is awesome. But when I was doing for 5 days i could feel my stomach little bit, do you think it can be that? So they told me to bake in 80% to cook it dry, now I am eating them but feels like they are powerless like that. Its nice but gotta eat more of the slices..
I think this Dreamer is not applying the knowledge of Amanita correctly.
GREAT, THAT YOU TACKLED THIS SUBJECT!!!
I’m in the PNW and I like amanita muscaria for my runs. Typically I will make a tea from dried cap but in the fall the mature mushrooms fill with rainwater that becomes infused. That is my favorite way to enjoy the mushroom
I’m taking Psychopharmacology at University and there are actually some factors that would lend some credibility to the Amanita hypothesis:
1: The individual differences between people’s neurophysiology changes how the active drug acts on the brain.
2: The individual’s mental “set” meaning their endogenous chemistry at the time of dosing changes how the drug will affect the brain and psychological state of the individual.
3: The actual setting, like during warfare, would be highly stimulating and induce adrenaline and states of aggression, which would account for the rage part of the neurophysiological ‘set’. The disinhibition brought on by the GABA receptor agonist chemical Muscimol would account for the indiscriminate state of rage and aggression in so much as the mind of the warriors were in a rage and ‘fight’ mode prior to receiving major disinhibition from a large dose of a GABA agonist.
4: The redness of the face is accounted for by Amanita dreamer, and also, I’ve heard some different anecdotal experiences from folks who picked and baked their Amanitas where they were physically sluggish and incapacitated for 1-3 days after their experience, so the comedown lasting that long also makes sense.
5: The viking warrior’s up-regulated enzyme induction might have been increased with repeated use, thus they would be able to metabolize the active drug faster leading to a tolerance, and less negative side effects of use.
6: Perhaps the vikings didn’t eat them raw, but they had a special preparation that led to differing chemistry in the active drug they imbibed.
I’m not trying to do anything but encourage some alternative view on the subject, and say that its not discounted as a hypothesis strictly based on Amanita Dreamer’s subjective anecdotal experience and subjective analysis of those she did ceremonies with.
In my personal experience, it hasn’t been hallucinogenic. Especially not a feeling of rage. Instead, felt a very strong stimulant and an indifference to pain. For these two sensations, I can definitely understand this mushroom being used for battle.
did you also start glowing in rainbow and music startet playing?
That’s the star not the mushroom. Lol. 😂
interesting. would their be something that would behave more like angel dust or PCP? sassafras roots is used to make extacy. or ephedra sinica used to make Chrystal meth. but also note their are many types of mushrooms. opium is also something common used by soldiers in the middle east or assassins in japan.
Did you eat it raw then?
@@germanicelt no, it was cooked using simmering water and lemon method.
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I got the psyched wellness yesterday in the mail its definitely the safest way to take aminita
henbane? good luck with it, im fairly sure its gonna be life changing if you plan to use it
Thanks for spreading truth ❤
My name is William, I took the amanita Formosa, which we find in Michigan, also the red variety from Colorado and Rocky mountain pantherina.. after 10 years of dosing every week, having nice psychedelic feel good trips... One time I decided to make a tea, I fell asleep and when I woke I went in a total freak-out mode
Hi love your content, would love to know a bit more about the plant saliva if you haven't already covered it
Now that is a intense 10 minutes!
We focus too much on one mushroom/one compound. Feeling cold and face red sometimes accompany ingestion of Psilocybe Semilanceata. What if it was some mixture of different fungi and plants whose specific mixture caused the physical symptoms? Mental state in the case of psychoactive substances may depend on the attitude. If, through a kind of meditation (?), they got into a state of anger, then such substances could multiply it.
Sometimes when I'm doing my weight lifting training, I play some compilation of "dark powerful music" and achieve a similar state from the description. The rage and fury I feel gives me goosebumps until I feel a tingling sensation under my skin. I channel these feelings into training. But if I had different moral principles, I really don't know what I would do.
Also remember that today's people have much less testosterone. And this also has a huge impact on behavior.
I've heard it was more likely Henbane
I have heard that the Vikings put borage in their mead or porridge for courage before battle. Possibly they added this and other things as well?
My experiences with amanita would lead me to want to eat some before a fight.
amanita definitely could be used in battle. It makes you stay awake and takes away fear, with right setting and addition of belladona I can definitely see it inducting berserk like state
I believe amanita dreamer (the women in the video) just didn't want to link amanita usage to agression, which by itself it doesn't induce, but with the right setting? War drums and shamans preparing you to slay down your enemies, open youself to Rage of some god of war or some sxxt? I can see that working, no problem
They could have also mixed it with something else that would have changed the chemistry of the mushroom. Who knows!
@@Garvin285 The thing is, with or without the mushrooms they were going into a battle with axes spears and swords killing other men. They were prepared to die and kill before the mushrooms. i think the mushrooms enchange the feelings
Following this line of inquiry with interest. I would be curious to know about Ergot contamination in rye grain in Europe, and incidents such as St. Vitus dance or other culturally significant events.
Hey! Good to see you visiting our beautiful country in the search for the truth of vikings and the Amanita Muscaria.
What about looking into the fact that we had psychedelic wine some time back. I looked it up some time ago and in England they even have a certain day of the year to honor this.
Something else I would like to know is why we have figurines of Amanita Muscaria for Christmas if it didn't have any meaning?!
Maybe the berserkers reacted differently to the mushroom because of their diets or genetics.
After taking Amanita muscaria, the last thing you want to do is fight. That goes for both the good and the unpleasant effects it might have.
If anything, A muscaria can give a little bit of a MDMA kind of feeling. And one of the most interesting things is the kind of dreams you get if you fall a sleep on A muscaria. They're something special!
I love this women she seems very honest and I never thought of eating these mushrooms I thought they were poison.
I will be eating them now for sure.
Thanks for the video
I'm pretty sure if you grow up raiding and pillaging, alot of mead and amanita will help you get to that point...
I think it all depends of your state of mind. I could see if you took that as a Viking right before a raid with your tribe.
Magic mushrooms dilate the pupils, even in small doses. It might have been an ancient form of night vision they used as they also attacked early in the morning. I have definitely experienced enhanced vision in the dark when tripping on mushrooms.
Psilocybin containing mushrooms dilate pupils, where as amanita muscaria can actually make them smaller.
Would you be able to participate in a large scale battle in that state?
@@jagosevatarion8822 yeah absolutely.
@@jagosevatarion8822 small dose, yes.
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Wow! What a coincidence her last name is Dreamer and she professionally trips on mushrooms. It was destiny
The way i see it, the Vikings were calm and strategic in the battles, no matter how messy it was, so this mushroom could have allowed them to stay this calm and focused to accive victory.
When I heard Rogan and Peterson I immediately realized I was getting misinformation. Glad you actually studied it.
I heard a discussion about "liberty cap" mushroom, like if it was potentially used in history as sort of a poor mans night vision by using eating small amount and thus helping when hunting. It would be interesting to hear if there is any truth to this, does it really help seeing in low light, perhaps detect movement of animals easier?
I attest to the enhanced night vision; it let me notice the blue bioluminescence of woodlice, which was too dim to see when looked at directly; they sparkled clearly in the rest of my vision. EDIT: These may well have been lightning bug larvae, perhaps of a species that does not glow as an adult, which I initially dismissed due to the color being blue, not yellow.
I second this. Night vision is definitely improved. Surprised this hasn’t been looked at buy academics. It was probably used when looking up at the night sky too , for ancient astronomy.
Do you know how to use these mushrooms please??? I've got 6 of them would love to know how they are used probably, thank you
If you think about Amanita being referred to as teleport, it would definitely make sense for the Vikings to take them pre-trip.
my guess is that the knowledge got lost and the Agaric was just one of the ingredients in the mix with other substances/mushrooms to create the berserk state that warriors needed to fight multiple enemies alone..
I covered myself with my own feces and ran through a party which was going on, I slightly injured myself but I could feel no pain.... A few weeks later I thought I'd try a smaller amount,,, I ended up jumping off the fireplace mantle really injuring myself but again feeling no pain,,, unaware of what I was doing, I ended up in the hospital in Grand rapids Michigan, when I awoke on a gurney in the hallway of the hospital I found a large bite,,, self-inflicted out of my arm.... I laid off the mushrooms for a while after that,,, but then in 2001 I went to the telluride mushroom festival in Colorado, I love tripping on that mushroom so again I tried 13 g of amanita muscaria panther caps, after marching in the parade, I began to feel numb all over, that's the last thing I remember I took my clothes off and ran through the festival,, running around I could have injured myself so someone tried to help me and I almost broke his leg,, I was told this after-the-fact I had no awareness of what was going on, that you're at the festival dr. Andrew wild was giving lectures, and was camping in the campground at the festival,,, he tried to talk me down until I fell asleep he thought I was okay, so he left, but when I walk I started up again running all over the place, totally off & out of control ... I am now 67 years old,, I took that mushroom for over 10 years without any incidences until 2001,,, I haven't took the muscaria sense,,, but I'm tempted because I like the high... I'm very experienced in the use of psychedelics including, San Pedro cactus, psilocybin, salvia divinorum,,,
I use to eat magic mushrooms and play rugby.
I didn't get angry,
I wouldn't get tired.
I had heightened vision and the game slowed down. Which if you play rugby the more experience you have the slower the game feels
That would make sense as your state of consciousness is heightened, you become more present, more in-the-moment so things around you would appear to slow down because you can perceive them as so and you have the advantage. I experience this with long term meditation and mindfulness practice, as my general awareness was broader, i would almost see things before they happen. Same thing with other magic mushrooms and cannabis.
I would like this channel a lot more if there were not so many pop up ads. It is overkill!
I know when I take some mushrooms and go on my bike rides, I’m an absolute beast. Literally can’t feel my legs for hours while pushing it. In my mind there is no other better performance enhancing substance. And the meditation that follows when I finally get off my steed while my blood is flowing like an erupting volcano is beyond dimension splitting. I can get completely out of it after my rides in a matter of mere seconds when I finally sit down and close my eyes
would you recommend it for bike riding?
My property produces red and furry ghost pipes. I would like to know if I could still make tincture out of them and if there are as much of a parasite as the other.
Definitely depends on you. It’s not like it’s gonna turn a hippie into a warrior out of nowhere, but with the experiences me and my buddy had, yeah if we were trained soldiers who had planned on going into battle anyway, sure, it could work in the right dosage. At even relatively high dosages, I was still able to function in my surroundings. I mean, there are a lot of drugs that have been used one way by a shaman and one way by a soldier. No offense to the dreamer, but it sounds like she’s not at all using it in the same contextual setting as a half-naked bear-clad Swedish warrior in the freezing woods.
Love these videos and this is amazing, wish I got more into these when I still lived in the PNW.
On a side not however Huusk knives suck, and that is not how kinves look "historically". That's just how crappy chinese factories make knives look to make them seem old school, in reality these knives are not japanese and are just one of those drop shipping businesses.
i was discussing this with my wife just because we had a few mckennaii, i know its not the same, however as we talked the thought of being in battle in that state would be very hard i would say but maybe putting you in a animal like state, yes.... i would need alot of mead to make me rage though, maybe a mix and being in the woods alone for a week or two.
We did use them, but it wasn't to induce rage, We have plenty of rage on our own. The Mushroom helped us he strong and channel our inner animal spirits.
Gettin’ trippy with it nahnah nahnah nah nahnah.
Another option might be Amanita Pantherina. It has parts of all of the effects you described and is from the same genus so very easy to mistake one for the other. Paul Stamets describes tripping on it and getting stuck in a repetitive destructive behaviour pattern.
Except it contains trace amounts of scopolamine😟
maybe rage **is** a state of heightened focusness. I often spar while high on weed, it definitely makes me seem like I'm berserking for someone who can't fight and/or has never been high and extremely focused on a physical activity.
P.S. if you are willing to feed me amanita muscaria and watch me fight, i'm down! ;)
There are many different mushrooms 🍄
Those that know, know that expectations and setting greatly influence the experience of hallucinogens. This woman is doing new age healing ceremonies. Every part of life for them was religious and they were career warriors. Tripping balls is not conducive to effective warfare. My understanding is that the mushroom ceremonies happened well before the actual raids, like a whole day before. The positive effects of the trip can last days or weeks beyond the actual trip, and combining war preparation with shamanic shape shifting ceremonies is sure to be effective for some. I didn't find the conclusion of this video particularly convincing.
It's more likely vikings used Liberty Cap over Fly Agaric. Mixed with lots of alcohol..
Can you please tell us what book you were reading from?
Lots in Nova Scotia :)
once I get my hands on one it will be use for my last option
she does have a video on her website now discussing "Amanita Anger"
ruclips.net/video/szj2bU7IQno/видео.html here it is
They also consumed Myrica Gale, AKA bog myrtle, which may have an effect of amplifying intoxication from other substances. I think it would be possible that the two would be consumed together, maybe with alcohol. Beer was brewed with bog myrtle before hops was sued, and the hangovers were alleged to be severe and lasting for days - explaining the "feeble state".
Maybe it was stacked with some other source that would block the ibotenic to muscumol phase.
Like Ayawasca has two ingredients.
Lots of people used mushrooms for battle including the Zulus. It needs to be used in a ritual which you dont know
It is thought that men with ptsd from previous battles would get a nervous rage going. As a person from Viking decent mushrooms make you laugh and chase butterflies.
What about the pain relieving properties, possibly used for combat.
They were warrior shamans. Creganford (sp?) has a video about Berzerkers that suggests it or states it outright (cant recall exactly).
Of course 'power plants' like amanita musc. have been used by shamans for a long long time.
Also bear shirts reminds me of south-east Asian 'warrior shamans' called 'Kong gra pan' in Thai, one of which is 'king of the bears' magick because their hides & fur protect them from puncture wounds from other animals and bears are powerful & aggressive 'fighters' when provoked.
Also when the spirit takes over, one becomes aggressive like a provoked animal such as a bear or tiger (a colloquial name for Kong gra pan is 'big tiger' - 'seua yai') until the threat has passed or the fight has ended.
Cheers
I've pick 6 of these boy's how can I take these???
How do you make a tea with these PLEASE
The fact that they wore bear skins, or wolf skins hints to shamanism. They quite certainly used amanita muscaria, as the legend tells, but most unlikely in battle.
I am for the time being at a sacred place just north of Gothenburg and I would very much have liked to meet you for a fruitful conversation.
thank you for your interesting videos.
Fantastic. Yes, they most definitely used them. I still think it's unlikely as a battle drug, but then again, that's up for debate.
Hints of shamanism??? I think you're projecting and have no idea what it's like to be a psychopathic warrior.
@@UntamedScience the true reason for me to leave a comment, was to invite you and Amanita dreamer to a sacred ceremoni/retreat the upcoming weekend . It is something that resembles what you have already done. I therefore think that you will find it interesting. It resembles but is also very different.
You are most likely not around anymore and it is also almost to late.
If it is going to be, we will work out something. I am not too happy to leave my telephone number on RUclips. All the best wherever you are.
When you use a stimulant where from nature or man made medicine it will affect the person differently depending in the state of mind they are in. If they are in a state of mind with anger they will act out violently if the state of mind is peacefully they will act out will love and peace and it will also affect in other ways depending what you are thinking at the moment you take any stimulant.
Got a question did you try it?
I read and was told that A. Muscaria is a delirium. Is this true, and if so is this not bad for your health?
Asking a mushroom girl if she would imagine becoming a berserker is absolutely absurd. I can assure you from personal experience that magic mushrooms can induce extreme States of barbarianism, rage and energy. It has to do with your own body chemistry (hormone profile), genetics and state of mind. Do the experiment with soldiers about to go to war or fighters about to fight in a cage and you'll see what happens. You're both soft humans, and will gain insights from your soft baseline and perspective, and that is fine.
Interestingly enough Amity was scarier has far more prevalence in sami culture I believe, as it was commonly used by their shamans for visions, funny enough they're shaman's dress in white and red and look like Santa Claus, not to mention they're the only ones who are allowed to heard / farm reindeer. One more random note they would always try the animators on pine trees (origins of ornaments)
Plus let the smoked mushroom pieces down the chimney to the folk inside
It may have been a part of a cocktail that would induce rage. Biomagnification can be unpredictable, and not know what the other elements were makes it almost impossible to deduce without many dangerous trials upon volunteer subjects. Good luck with that.
my 2 cents.
i think Peterson stated it correctly in the short clip of him.
Before raids and before battle would be completely different things.
Maybe they get spiritual guidance from the mushroom and then proceed to live up to it irl.
i meen, if you meet/belive you met oðinn raids would be the expected outcome.
I always believed it was Amanita Pantherina that brought about repetitive action, anger etc and that they were taking these to fight and the Amanita Muscaria when they were celebrating
The Vikings most likely had stronger stomachs than we have now in first world countries because they had to be able to eat food that doesn’t break down as easy. Maybe because of this trait, they could eat a larger amount? Also they enjoyed fighting, so the mushroom could help them dial in on their hobby which happened to be violence
During the last 4 days I have collected like 40 fly agarics, will try it one day
I ate a bunch of these type and it made me feel like a giant in slow motion. I was looping at times. I dropped my lighter and picked it up over and over for about an hour. There were other instances of being stuck in a loop. Very strange trippy stuff.
This seems more akin and accurate to the portrayal of the use of mushrooms in the show Vikings and the game Assassins Creed Valhalla, which is portrayed as more a hallucinogen
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In the Viking sagas the vikings used it the day before they went into battel. First the vikings would feel the sedative effects of muscimol and get sleepy. However next moring they would get more energy and feel like ther where unstoppeble. When a viking army ran down while tripping to pillage a village they would to the most unspeakeble acts. Henbabe might also have been used but its also sedative so they would have to sleep before they went into battel.
Used them. One time I was fearless and bloodthirsty as hell when on the fly agaric. It felt good. Invincible.
Did you eat it raw, or cook it?
@Martin Von WunderGass I dried it in a herb dryer. That is important because the heat changes the poison that is in it.
How was your experience with AM, Stoneage Man?
Paul Stamets talked on Joe Rogan about amanita pantherina and the repetitive motion syndrome
Her description involving a lack of berserker state in use is absent of of the mediation on immediate battle. I tried this once in a moment of conflict, and felt my own rage all night.
How many dark age warriors hours before entering life and death battle were observed or interviewed for this video? Are modern people and hippies really able to relate to this ancient world of violence?
I always thought they took it the day / night before battle as it provided them with some after glow clarity
4:50 . . . ceased does not have a z sound. it has a soft c or s sound, as in deceased.
What about panther cap? It’s far more potent but less recognizable.
i read a few times (in german articles) that the germanic people did a little bit of the amanita muchroom - fliegenpilz in a pot of Met - honeywine boil it and drank it when they had feasts! to be more in the spiritual state!
@Elina Roberts ok i try later on telegram, thank you!
responsible substance use is the key term