I've just come across your channel today. What fascinates and amazes me are the length of the trains on the continent of the US! Obviously you have massive distances to cover so you need to maximize the movement of freight. Here in the UK the longest freight trains are around 2,500 feet long, but most are shorter.
I have a friend/subscriber from London who just left from his third visit to my area since we met in 2022. The last two times he stayed with us. When I asked if he had a group he did trainspotting with at home, he said he doesn't even do it there any more. He comes over here once a year to do it. As he described freight railroading here, "You have to see it to believe it"! My videos of his last visit are upcoming. Thanks for checking it out!
I agree with comments on a possible air-connection leak between the final DPUs. We wouldn’t normally see an indication; except, here, the train is traveling over fresh-that-morning ballast, still coated in dust. Has been seen in other locations where trains roll over freshly deposited track ballast.
You are correct. The placard #1987 indicates the cargo is ethanol (grain alcohol) that has been denatured by usually adding methanol (wood alcohol) so it is not edible. This product is added to gasoline. It is also a class 3 (out of 4) flammable liquid. Gasoline is one of the more common class 3 flammable liquids carried by rail.The most common compressed flammable liquids are propane and vinyl chloride. Liquefied natural gas (LNG), a cryogenic liquid when compressed for bulk transport is not the same as propane. LNG was banned in 2023.
The banning of LNG on rails. Another joke perpetrated upon the American people by a pandering government. Now, a hundred times more is simply hauled by trucks, where it is much more likely to be involved in an accident.
@@MarkClayMcGowan I agree. I am unaware of any LNG tank car being breached. I was in USCG in the late 70s/early 80s when LNG ships were under design. The blast like a small nuc never happened.
Got to wonder if that little dust storm was GE's Clean Rail system, where a powerful blast of air is sent down the sander pipes (usually without the sand at the same time) got switched on by mistake, or if the sander came on when it really wasn't needed. Usually the sander doesn't eject sand with that much force, as they would prefer the sand remain on the rail for the wheels to benefit from traction. Clean Rail was designed to blast wicked amounts of pressurized air down at the rail, to help remove rainwater, snow, leaves, any other debris that would cause the drives to lose adhesion to the rail.
on the end no smoke from brakes, and you say it is from sand pipe sprayer on the wheels, the dust like me sand colour and no brake pad smoke. thank you.. .. [5-10-24]
Here in Brazil, railway companies, including the one I work for, run with loaded wagons at the front of the train and empty ones at the back, in addition there is a weight limit between loaded wagons, to avoid exactly what happened there.
So UP started building the Roseville and others trains leaving Colton around the Balloon track. They were pissed off at the Engineers for derailing the trains all the time. We keep telling them not to use the balloon. We ( not me luckily ) were always popping empty cars off the balloon track! UP builds the head heavy, and the rear heavy for the DPUs and then wonder why the train derailed on the balloon???
Here is the link to my playlist of How Things Work On The Railroad. In it is a piece I did about the curve oilers that are there to keep the wheels and rails lubricated. Thanks for checking it out!
The 1987 placard is a flammable liquid, ethanol. They assemble covered hopper buffer cars loaded with sand at each end to protect the crews of those unit trains in the event of a derailment. That way the trainsets don't have to be turned at each end of their journey.
They tend to not run anything over about a mile and a half up here as the shortest siding is just over 8,300 feet. The slow speed also makes them seen longer as it takes a while to get by. Thanks for checking it out!
I've visited Tehachapi twice now - a great railfanning experience. As a civil engineer I was also impressed by the spiral. It occurs to me that current railroad practice has made a mistake - the trains are too long and heavy - yes I know it improves productivity per employee (engineers and conductors) - but is track maintenance keeping up with the extra wear and tear?
And they've never run an 18'000 foot train over Tehachapi. Rowen is the shortest siding on the pass at 8,310', and they try to keep them no longer than that in case they need to hold them there. When you're up there and the trains are going 23mph, it makes them seem longer than they are when they're in the desert or the valley going 60 or 70. I've heard about the monsters out on the Transcon and the Sunset, but those rails don't care how long a train is. The train may care, but not the rails.
Canadian Pacific did two spirals in the middle of Kicking Horse Pass in British Columbia which opened in 1909. Apparently the Spiral Tunnels were patterned after the Swiss did it in the 19th Century
@@GilmerJohnLonger trains means less crews needed to move train traffic out of the yard which pleases Wall Street... Until the FRA steps in and mandate that railroads keep their trains between 8,000 to 10,000, we're going to continue to see these ten mile long trains.....
The mojave sub is a major critical rail route in CA. UP will pay any amount of money to put it back in action asap. The cleanup of the derailment debris will go to the lowest bidder over the next several months
@@Stefan_Boerjesson They do. Locomotives, rail cars, tracks switches, crossing gates, etc. are like anything else. They malfunction or break. When there is a derailment, it costs more money having to either reroute trains, or have them sitting for hours or even days waiting to pass by the site of the derailment. Plus they have to fix the ties and rails if they are torn up, and call in contractor who specializes in retailing cars if possible, plus buying new rail cars if they are damaged beyond repair, plus the cost of environmental clean up if any tank cars leak or diesel fuel if a locomotive is heavily damaged. Then there is the cost of whatever goods the train is carrying. Most likely insurance foots the bill. A big derailment can cost the railroad tens of millions of dollars, or even more if there are big fines and lawsuits.
@@mkay1957 That should be obvious for every railroad company. However, large train accidents, mostly derailments seem to happen rather often in the US. Too often to be such a developed country. Okey, there are bad examples in Europe but for my country, Sweden, derailments are rare. Okey, the iron ore line had 2 of them during a few years but that's almost it.
@@Stefan_Boerjesson10’s of Million’s of Dollars are Spent by ALL the Class I Railroads for Maintenance. The “Geometry” Car on each Railroad looks for Trouble Spots and Money is used to Update or Replace Trackage, Switches, etc.
That's the best guess of the algorithm creating CCs (they are auto-generated here), and judging by the, ahem, "style and quality" of the contemporary music (which is the "learning/ training base" for the algorithm, I reckon) it is not that much off, I'd say... ;-)
NS learned a few years ago on the Horseshoe Curve when they had about 10 empty spine cars on the front of a heavy train going uphill and they just tipped off the track going around the curve and it happened in front of the VRF camera at the viewing area.
... is that because the train is in essence is trying to pull itself into a straight line and the light unloaded cars just got pulled off and derailed...? What are spine cars...?
trains pulling can straightline a curve, under braking they tend to be pushed off, like this. Spines are piggy back cars with only a spine connecting the two ends of the car.
@@MarkClayMcGowan Thanks for the correction Mark. I meant those cars that came off the track in your video and the same type cars that did at the Horseshoe Curve a few years ago. It's been said those cars when they are empty should be put at the back of the train.
It's a good thing that only harmless bulk goods are transported on this route. Nevertheless, the load on the inner rail is absolutely enormous. A bad flange on a wagon and you can clean up again. This route is not designed for the enormous loads. There is probably not a single wooden sleeper left on this line - hopefully.
Your assessment is far from acceptable. Union Pacific and BNSF as common carriers are lawfully required to accept and transport loads of merchandise of all types. If you listened to Mark's commentary, the first train in this video has tank cars placards with things that are not considered "harmless bulk goods."
All types of loads are transported on this line. I would say the one with the highest risk of disaster is LPG, but all acids, flammables, etc. are hauled, as are huge loads of lumber, steel, and every other product or commodity needed by such a huge and needy nation! Thanks for checking it out!
You had said in the other video that it had rear DPU. Looking at the crash looks like the rear DPU had power on and the front of the train was slow. So it stack it up.
Do they still use the oilers that squirt up from beneath the rails? I used to see them all the time on the line between Mount Shasta and Lake Shasta when I fished the Sacramento
They no longer use the piston type. Here is the link to a playlist in which I have a video of how the curve oilers work. Thanks for checking it out! ruclips.net/p/PL6ge3RoxmyvpcyRZPKJKl6W4l5IdiC-Ps
@@pbear6251 I doubt it, it is coming from right near the pilot of the 3rd unit. That is where the air connections are all made. You can also hear what sounds like an air leak as that 3rd unit approaches.
1987-ethanol (blended with gasoline). If train is eastbound it’s likely returning from Bakersfield refinery empty to Midwest ethanol plant. BNSF train symbol U BAK???
@baxter3998 The truck compoents are relatively easy to inspect to insure wear tolerances on things like wheels, flanges, bearing housings, etc. are within limits. The parts fit together like a glove. They are designed and assembled so good ol' gravity holds everything together. There are few, if any, needs of a bolt or restraint of the parts to guarantee proper operation.
Last DPU Loco and its Leading-Truck Dust Bowl : Could a Traction-Motor Blower Pipe have possibly worked loose or has it developed a fracture / split ... ? 🤔
Those General Electric toaster locomotives always sound like the engine is failing.... I'm like EMD locomotives.... No disrespect to GE, but there's something special about EMD locomotive s.
No it doesn't. If they are still upright, on the roadbed, and able to be safely re-railed without difficulty, they will be sent for inspection. Anything completely off the road bed (with the exception of locomotives) will be scrapped. It's been that way for a long time.
@rodonis88 There is a standard for governing the damage existing on the wheel/tread/flange/bearing/seal components for deciding use, reuse, repair or scrapping wheels, axles and truck components.
Unfortunately the strike is on the east coast. Different union out west. They reported that shipping companies will move everything to the west coast now, so going to get busy.
Hey Mark, has there been a derailment there before? When we were up there last year at tunnel 2 we noticed a set of wheels up on the hill off the dirt road near the main road. Just curious.
You're lucky that youre not out east where there are virtually unit trains of trash and building debris shipped that way. The stench is awful. It's a long journey from New York Massachusetts Etc to either Ohio or Georgia. In the midwest we have one recycling firm that gets punchings and trimmings along with defective can stock which is prone to blowing out at speed so they get a tarp also. CN also uses old wood chip cars for shipping scrap ties and there is a paper mill in Maine that gets shredded tires from Buffalo NY @@MarkClayMcGowan
They used to do that here as well, and yes, it was disgusting. I haven't seen (or smelled) one of those trains in a long time. Thanks for checking it out!
If dangerous goods are also transported here, such as toxic substances or highly explosive goods, I only hope that these freight trains are not extremely long and that the wagons are well maintained. But as previously commented, the radius is extremely small for these tonnages. All it takes is an incorrect load on the load carrier and the weakest wagon jumps off the track. It's all pure physics.
All goods and materials are transported over this line. Trains average about 9,000 tons and are generally no longer than 8,300 feet (to fit in the siding at Rowen if needed, which is 8,310'). The maximum authorized speed on the 25 miles from Caliente to Tehachapi is 23mph. As they operate about 10,000 trains annually over the pass, the two derailments so far in 2024, and the three in 2023, is a very good ratio! Thanks for checking it out.
The HSR will never be built across the Tehachapi Pass, at least not in the next 50 years, but if, or when it is, it won't be in this area, will not have these curves, and will not be more than a few cars in length. Thanks for checking it out!
Check out my playlist about how things work on the railroad. In it is a video I made about the curve oilers! ruclips.net/p/PL6ge3RoxmyvpcyRZPKJKl6W4l5IdiC-Ps
Too long long train in multi curves line plus grade 25%o, for good productivity but big risk of derail....Union Pacific is a prosperous company, why this risk ? Derail in Palestine for Norfolk Southern and big damages... in Europe, limit train loading is 3500 tonnes only. For me, (french) big perform all the days by the american railway workmen for driving this trains in Rocky Mountain ! friendly from France.
Limiting freight to 3,500 tonnes here would jeopardize the supply chain. There are just too many people and too large a country. Derailments such as this are cleared quickly, and they were putting them on the ground when they did run shorter trains too. Thanks for checking it out!
I assume your voice or auto correct changed derailment to doorbell! I've worked quite a few that caused a great deal of damage but thankfully none with loss of life. I wish I'd taken photos at them all, but I'm thinking of doing a slideshow video of the ones I have worked and have photos of.
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Thanks for all you do Mark. Your videos are always interesting and informative.
I've just come across your channel today. What fascinates and amazes me are the length of the trains on the continent of the US! Obviously you have massive distances to cover so you need to maximize the movement of freight. Here in the UK the longest freight trains are around 2,500 feet long, but most are shorter.
I have a friend/subscriber from London who just left from his third visit to my area since we met in 2022. The last two times he stayed with us. When I asked if he had a group he did trainspotting with at home, he said he doesn't even do it there any more. He comes over here once a year to do it. As he described freight railroading here, "You have to see it to believe it"! My videos of his last visit are upcoming. Thanks for checking it out!
Thanks for the Derailment update, Mark! 👍
Mark, Chris from West Colton L19. Glad to see your videos. Derailments never get old.
Great video Mark on BNSF Railroad main line trains friends hope you have great weekend friends
Another excellent video presentation. Thank you.
nice update mark neat how they got the rails back in service so quick.
I agree with comments on a possible air-connection leak between the final DPUs. We wouldn’t normally see an indication; except, here, the train is traveling over fresh-that-morning ballast, still coated in dust. Has been seen in other locations where trains roll over freshly deposited track ballast.
Those GE fourstrokes really sound great!!
great coverage on the derailment mark. that loco was definitely having issues.
You are correct. The placard #1987 indicates the cargo is ethanol (grain alcohol) that has been denatured by usually adding methanol (wood alcohol) so it is not edible. This product is added to gasoline. It is also a class 3 (out of 4) flammable liquid. Gasoline is one of the more common class 3 flammable liquids carried by rail.The most common compressed flammable liquids are propane and vinyl chloride. Liquefied natural gas (LNG), a cryogenic liquid when compressed for bulk transport is not the same as propane. LNG was banned in 2023.
The banning of LNG on rails. Another joke perpetrated upon the American people by a pandering government. Now, a hundred times more is simply hauled by trucks, where it is much more likely to be involved in an accident.
@@MarkClayMcGowan I agree. I am unaware of any LNG tank car being breached. I was in USCG in the late 70s/early 80s when LNG ships were under design. The blast like a small nuc never happened.
Those sanders were stuck on. Cool video.
Got to wonder if that little dust storm was GE's Clean Rail system, where a powerful blast of air is sent down the sander pipes (usually without the sand at the same time) got switched on by mistake, or if the sander came on when it really wasn't needed. Usually the sander doesn't eject sand with that much force, as they would prefer the sand remain on the rail for the wheels to benefit from traction. Clean Rail was designed to blast wicked amounts of pressurized air down at the rail, to help remove rainwater, snow, leaves, any other debris that would cause the drives to lose adhesion to the rail.
on the end no smoke from brakes, and you say it is from sand pipe sprayer on the wheels, the dust like me sand colour and no brake pad smoke. thank you.. .. [5-10-24]
Hey Mark that looked to me that the sanders were stuck on. I hope that unit has plenty of sand on it. Cool video. 👍❤️
Here in Brazil, railway companies, including the one I work for, run with loaded wagons at the front of the train and empty ones at the back, in addition there is a weight limit between loaded wagons, to avoid exactly what happened there.
So UP started building the Roseville and others trains leaving Colton around the Balloon track. They were pissed off at the Engineers for derailing the trains all the time. We keep telling them not to use the balloon.
We ( not me luckily ) were always popping empty cars off the balloon track!
UP builds the head heavy, and the rear heavy for the DPUs and then wonder why the train derailed on the balloon???
An othe GREAT VIDEO!!
Placard 1987 = Denatured fuel ethanol……..if it’s on fire🔥 = RUN
Imagine all the friction from those squealing flanges....
Here is the link to my playlist of How Things Work On The Railroad. In it is a piece I did about the curve oilers that are there to keep the wheels and rails lubricated. Thanks for checking it out!
oops! here is the link! ruclips.net/p/PL6ge3RoxmyvpcyRZPKJKl6W4l5IdiC-Ps
The 1987 placard is a flammable liquid, ethanol. They assemble covered hopper buffer cars loaded with sand at each end to protect the crews of those unit trains in the event of a derailment. That way the trainsets don't have to be turned at each end of their journey.
was on that train hitching a ride when it suddenly stopped - broke me arm when me went flying into the hopper ahead of me -
Mark, great video(s) and I thank you...have a god day my friend.
Those were some long ass trains!
They tend to not run anything over about a mile and a half up here as the shortest siding is just over 8,300 feet. The slow speed also makes them seen longer as it takes a while to get by. Thanks for checking it out!
I've visited Tehachapi twice now - a great railfanning experience. As a civil engineer I was also impressed by the spiral. It occurs to me that current railroad practice has made a mistake - the trains are too long and heavy - yes I know it improves productivity per employee (engineers and conductors) - but is track maintenance keeping up with the extra wear and tear?
How do longer trains add "wear & tear." Long trains means fewer trains.
Nothing was designed in all the railroad universe for 18,000 foot trains.
Most every yard was designed for 8-9000'
And they've never run an 18'000 foot train over Tehachapi. Rowen is the shortest siding on the pass at 8,310', and they try to keep them no longer than that in case they need to hold them there. When you're up there and the trains are going 23mph, it makes them seem longer than they are when they're in the desert or the valley going 60 or 70. I've heard about the monsters out on the Transcon and the Sunset, but those rails don't care how long a train is. The train may care, but not the rails.
Canadian Pacific did two spirals in the middle of Kicking Horse Pass in British Columbia which opened in 1909. Apparently the Spiral Tunnels were patterned after the Swiss did it in the 19th Century
@@GilmerJohnLonger trains means less crews needed to move train traffic out of the yard which pleases Wall Street...
Until the FRA steps in and mandate that railroads keep their trains between 8,000 to 10,000, we're going to continue to see these ten mile long trains.....
1987 is the code for ethanol - the corn-derived alcohol that California mandates be added to our gasoline. Blessings!
Great video.
The mojave sub is a major critical rail route in CA. UP will pay any amount of money to put it back in action asap. The cleanup of the derailment debris will go to the lowest bidder over the next several months
The scrapping is already done. I was down with a wrenched back and wasn't able to be there for it.
Why not pay for maintenance and prevent mishaps?
@@Stefan_Boerjesson They do. Locomotives, rail cars, tracks switches, crossing gates, etc. are like anything else. They malfunction or break.
When there is a derailment, it costs more money having to either reroute trains, or have them sitting for hours or even days waiting to pass by the site of the derailment. Plus they have to fix the ties and rails if they are torn up, and call in contractor who specializes in retailing cars if possible, plus buying new rail cars if they are damaged beyond repair, plus the cost of environmental clean up if any tank cars leak or diesel fuel if a locomotive is heavily damaged. Then there is the cost of whatever goods the train is carrying. Most likely insurance foots the bill.
A big derailment can cost the railroad tens of millions of dollars, or even more if there are big fines and lawsuits.
@@mkay1957 That should be obvious for every railroad company. However, large train accidents, mostly derailments seem to happen rather often in the US. Too often to be such a developed country.
Okey, there are bad examples in Europe but for my country, Sweden, derailments are rare. Okey, the iron ore line had 2 of them during a few years but that's almost it.
@@Stefan_Boerjesson10’s of Million’s of Dollars are Spent by ALL the Class I Railroads for Maintenance. The “Geometry” Car on each Railroad looks for Trouble Spots and Money is used to Update or Replace Trackage, Switches, etc.
Nice work mark
Many derailment . One day I will see there.
Interesting, the Subtitles display "Music" when the train wheels are squealing.
high C sharp!
That's the best guess of the algorithm creating CCs (they are auto-generated here), and judging by the, ahem, "style and quality" of the contemporary music (which is the "learning/ training base" for the algorithm, I reckon) it is not that much off, I'd say... ;-)
Glad it back up running here hopefully
NS learned a few years ago on the Horseshoe Curve when they had about 10 empty spine cars on the front of a heavy train going uphill and they just tipped off the track going around the curve and it happened in front of the VRF camera at the viewing area.
Twice in a short time span, as I recall.
Twice in a short time span, as I recall.
... is that because the train is in essence is trying to pull itself into a straight line and the light unloaded cars just got pulled off and derailed...?
What are spine cars...?
trains pulling can straightline a curve, under braking they tend to be pushed off, like this. Spines are piggy back cars with only a spine connecting the two ends of the car.
@@MarkClayMcGowan Thanks for the correction Mark. I meant those cars that came off the track in your video and the same type cars that did at the Horseshoe Curve a few years ago. It's been said those cars when they are empty should be put at the back of the train.
It's a good thing that only harmless bulk goods are transported on this route. Nevertheless, the load on the inner rail is absolutely enormous. A bad flange on a wagon and you can clean up again. This route is not designed for the enormous loads. There is probably not a single wooden sleeper left on this line - hopefully.
Your assessment is far from acceptable. Union Pacific and BNSF as common carriers are lawfully required to accept and transport loads of merchandise of all types. If you listened to Mark's commentary, the first train in this video has tank cars placards with things that are not considered "harmless bulk goods."
All types of loads are transported on this line. I would say the one with the highest risk of disaster is LPG, but all acids, flammables, etc. are hauled, as are huge loads of lumber, steel, and every other product or commodity needed by such a huge and needy nation! Thanks for checking it out!
Union Pacific life line in NorCal traffic from socal is huge if it runs into accidents
You had said in the other video that it had rear DPU. Looking at the crash looks like the rear DPU had power on and the front of the train was slow. So it stack it up.
Empty centerbeam cars, long train, uphill?, sounds like stringlining to me.
It was a downhill train. DPU surge pushed the cars to the outside of the curve
Do they still use the oilers that squirt up from beneath the rails? I used to see them all the time on the line between Mount Shasta and Lake Shasta when I fished the Sacramento
They no longer use the piston type. Here is the link to a playlist in which I have a video of how the curve oilers work. Thanks for checking it out!
ruclips.net/p/PL6ge3RoxmyvpcyRZPKJKl6W4l5IdiC-Ps
That wasn't sand......that was some sort of air leak or something blowing down on the track.
more likely rail squeal
I thought that as well. There's still so much I don't know about locomotives!
@@pbear6251 I doubt it, it is coming from right near the pilot of the 3rd unit. That is where the air connections are all made. You can also hear what sounds like an air leak as that 3rd unit approaches.
Sanders were malfunctioning. Stuck on.
1987-ethanol (blended with gasoline). If train is eastbound it’s likely returning from Bakersfield refinery empty to Midwest ethanol plant. BNSF train symbol U BAK???
Always wondered how the wheel trucks on those railcars are attached. Do they just fall off when the car is turned over or are they fixed to stay on?
They are just sitting on the truck,will definitely fall off when tipped
@baxter3998 The truck compoents are relatively easy to inspect to insure wear tolerances on things like wheels, flanges, bearing housings, etc. are within limits. The parts fit together like a glove. They are designed and assembled so good ol' gravity holds everything together. There are few, if any, needs of a bolt or restraint of the parts to guarantee proper operation.
Last DPU Loco and its Leading-Truck Dust Bowl : Could a Traction-Motor Blower Pipe have possibly worked loose or has it developed a fracture / split ... ? 🤔
Those General Electric toaster
locomotives always sound like the engine is failing....
I'm like EMD locomotives....
No disrespect to GE, but there's something special about EMD locomotive s.
When this happens, do these wagons become scrap or are they still recovered?
anything off completely off the rails is scrapped.
Depends on amount of damage
No it doesn't. If they are still upright, on the roadbed, and able to be safely re-railed without difficulty, they will be sent for inspection. Anything completely off the road bed (with the exception of locomotives) will be scrapped. It's been that way for a long time.
Are the wheels reused?
@rodonis88 There is a standard for governing the damage existing on the wheel/tread/flange/bearing/seal components for deciding use, reuse, repair or scrapping wheels, axles and truck components.
Looks like a traction motor is cooking itself
Will they just scrap everything on site?
They already have!
Is this right at Tehachapi Loop, or at another tunnel?
This the west end of Bealville, thirteen miles below the Loop. Thanks for checking it out!
With the port strike happening the container trains with probably be limited for awhile !!!
Unfortunately the strike is on the east coast. Different union out west. They reported that shipping companies will move everything to the west coast now, so going to get busy.
Hey Mark, has there been a derailment there before? When we were up there last year at tunnel 2 we noticed a set of wheels up on the hill off the dirt road near the main road. Just curious.
Not in quite some time. Those wheels were up there for a few years.
Do you know what they carry in those high sided gondolas that use a rag top cover
?
Usually cotton seed abd/or cotton seed hulls, which are used in agricultural crop fertilizer and treatment.
You're lucky that youre not out east where there are virtually unit trains of trash and building debris shipped that way. The stench is awful. It's a long journey from New York Massachusetts Etc to either Ohio or Georgia. In the midwest we have one recycling firm that gets punchings and trimmings along with defective can stock which is prone to blowing out at speed so they get a tarp also. CN also uses old wood chip cars for shipping scrap ties and there is a paper mill in Maine that gets shredded tires from Buffalo NY @@MarkClayMcGowan
They used to do that here as well, and yes, it was disgusting. I haven't seen (or smelled) one of those trains in a long time. Thanks for checking it out!
That loco did sound odd.
How many derailments a year do you get at tehachapi?
usually just a couple annually, and most aren't this major.
Returning ethanol train? -Bob...
If dangerous goods are also transported here, such as toxic substances or highly explosive goods, I only hope that these freight trains are not extremely long and that the wagons are well maintained. But as previously commented, the radius is extremely small for these tonnages. All it takes is an incorrect load on the load carrier and the weakest wagon jumps off the track. It's all pure physics.
All goods and materials are transported over this line. Trains average about 9,000 tons and are generally no longer than 8,300 feet (to fit in the siding at Rowen if needed, which is 8,310'). The maximum authorized speed on the 25 miles from Caliente to Tehachapi is 23mph. As they operate about 10,000 trains annually over the pass, the two derailments so far in 2024, and the three in 2023, is a very good ratio! Thanks for checking it out.
Mark do we know what the cause of the derailment was.
I've heard nothing official, but heard talk that the DPUs were having issues with dynamics.
What happens when the new highspeed train has problems like this
The HSR will never be built across the Tehachapi Pass, at least not in the next 50 years, but if, or when it is, it won't be in this area, will not have these curves, and will not be more than a few cars in length. Thanks for checking it out!
Squealing, they have definitely ground the rails
Check out my playlist about how things work on the railroad. In it is a video I made about the curve oilers!
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Where is there BMP's? No stabilized construction entrance??? Straw waddle and silt fence around the work area!!! How dare they. 😂 😂😂
What's a BMP? There is one way to access this site, and they were using it. I guess that's as stabilized as was necessary! Thanks for checking it out!
Where did you get your hat?
Walmart! I wish I'd bought two! I only wear it now for doing videos.
Looks like a quickie tamper pass. Regulated just to fill tamper holes. There is no time for Finnish work. But track speed is slow... so.
Max speed is 23 anyway, so it's already slow!
Too long long train in multi curves line plus grade 25%o, for good productivity but big risk of derail....Union Pacific is a prosperous company, why this risk ? Derail in Palestine for Norfolk Southern and big damages... in Europe, limit train loading is 3500 tonnes only. For me, (french) big perform all the days by the american railway workmen for driving this trains in Rocky Mountain ! friendly from France.
Limiting freight to 3,500 tonnes here would jeopardize the supply chain. There are just too many people and too large a country. Derailments such as this are cleared quickly, and they were putting them on the ground when they did run shorter trains too. Thanks for checking it out!
That’s terrible
What was the worst doorbell that you ever had to work on?Do you remember or were the oldest is bad
I assume your voice or auto correct changed derailment to doorbell! I've worked quite a few that caused a great deal of damage but thankfully none with loss of life. I wish I'd taken photos at them all, but I'm thinking of doing a slideshow video of the ones I have worked and have photos of.
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Dude. Really? Dynamic braking on a locomotive is used to help slow the train and keep it under control going downhill. Take a breath!