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  • Опубликовано: 1 авг 2019
  • The Democratic presidential candidates remain deeply divided on how to expand healthcare to the tens of millions of Americans who are uninsured or underinsured. Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have both pushed for abolishing private health insurance and establishing a Medicare for All system. Their rivals have pushed a number of different, more incremental approaches. During the first night of the latest debates, Sanders pointed out that the country has taken sweeping action before to expand health coverage to millions of Americans, referring to the 50th anniversary of the creation of Medicare and Medicaid. We speak with Janet Golden, professor emerita at Rutgers University-Camden and a historian of U.S. medicine, and Wendell Potter, a former health insurance executive.
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Комментарии • 572

  • @ericpmoss
    @ericpmoss 5 лет назад +213

    There is one Medicare for All. It's Medicare... for All. The sooner the better. I worked in the insurance industry, and it's ridiculous to insert profit layers -- there are layers of waste people have no idea exist.

    • @rebeccajohnson8579
      @rebeccajohnson8579 5 лет назад +26

      What is even worse is that they are telling the lies that individuals like you would LOOSE your jobs, when all you guys need do is let Medicare/Medicaid KNOW that you are available as soon as they switch to MEDICARE FOR ALL! These will be the most easiest positions to fill for worker's like you! These bastards will SAY and DO anything to keep their greedy and outrageous profits flowing in!

    • @chioma3100
      @chioma3100 5 лет назад +15

      No BS public option. Single payer for all!

    • @atrociousconsequences4432
      @atrociousconsequences4432 5 лет назад

      So called "layers of waste" are income for Millions, what are they going to do ??

    • @Felddagryph
      @Felddagryph 5 лет назад +15

      They'll get a job that isn't the equivalent of being paid to break people's windows. They can become healthcare workers instead of health insurance workers, With free college they can become doctors, nurses, front desk staff, work in manufacturing and maintaining medical instruments or constructing new hospitals and clinics...

    • @elsagrace3893
      @elsagrace3893 5 лет назад

      Yang 2020 Universal Basic Income

  • @rukhsanakhan5010
    @rukhsanakhan5010 5 лет назад +124

    Can't believe America still struggle with idea of health for everyone .....not just the rich

    • @ryh5169
      @ryh5169 5 лет назад +17

      It's the starkest example (among many) of how deeply corrupt US politics are.

    • @pennyo6868
      @pennyo6868 5 лет назад +10

      Rukhsana Khan, It's because the powerful and the rich don't intend to give up their power, money and control over the rest of us. Every law, policy, war and, more importantly, election for public office flows from this ideology. It's up to us, the "people", to rise up and insist on our voice being heard, not accepting NO, and intent on change!

    • @hitreset0291
      @hitreset0291 5 лет назад +3

      @@pennyo6868 a revolution is sometimes needed for change ... peaceful revolution if possible ... and if not the uber-rich better get their panick rooms in order.

    • @pennyo6868
      @pennyo6868 5 лет назад +1

      @@hitreset0291 So true.

    • @elsagrace3893
      @elsagrace3893 5 лет назад +4

      H No no it’s not. You’re money isn’t going to buy you better healthcare.

  • @peace8373
    @peace8373 5 лет назад +176

    Deductibles are just a method to prevent you from using your insurance.

    • @theresewalters1696
      @theresewalters1696 5 лет назад +14

      It works. I've spent $$$ on insurance each year and can't afford a doctor visit let alone any additional "care". Wish I had not given 💰 for nothing.
      And now the same company is using that money to fight against MFA. F*ckers.

    • @mijemumijemu4466
      @mijemumijemu4466 5 лет назад +7

      Billionaire Socialism is killing us. it is selling us out to Putin now.

    • @Odinsday
      @Odinsday 5 лет назад +2

      @@mijemumijemu4466 Even Putin would think going against M4A is ridiculous.

    • @whygohome172
      @whygohome172 5 лет назад +6

      @@mijemumijemu4466 because poor people are easier to control. They love to villain ize the poor! They make laws to benefit themselves.

    • @davidlafleche1142
      @davidlafleche1142 5 лет назад

      Medicare for All is both impossible and unfair.

  • @antonybro7400
    @antonybro7400 5 лет назад +74

    Medicare For All is a right in Canada. We Canadians love it. No insurance bottom feeders allowed.

    • @anthonyahearn5736
      @anthonyahearn5736 5 лет назад

      Love it!

    • @mikaelgaiason688
      @mikaelgaiason688 5 лет назад +4

      Unfortunately the people smart enough to understand such a radical concept already do, and the ones that can't grasp it never will. It's much easier for them to just stick their head in the sand and keep repeating the bs lies about everybody up there dying while waiting to see a doctor because all the beds are filled up. Don't even MENTION Cuba, their eyes roll back and their heads explode.

    • @alexanderbailey5135
      @alexanderbailey5135 5 лет назад

      Antony bro Obama administration did save Medicare. They were giving out sticker cards for Medicare and Medicaid.

    • @gfreezone2581
      @gfreezone2581 5 лет назад

      Approved.

  • @richardgibbs5565
    @richardgibbs5565 5 лет назад +249

    Medicare For All is not a radical idea unless you're a corporate Democrat or Republican.

    • @syourke3
      @syourke3 5 лет назад +18

      Richard Gibbs It’s not radical unless you’re an insurance company!

    • @richardgibbs5565
      @richardgibbs5565 5 лет назад +8

      Steven Yourke Exactly

    • @XHALE303
      @XHALE303 5 лет назад +2

      By that token a lot of Trump supporters are corporate Dems or Reps or work for an Insurance company

    • @syourke3
      @syourke3 5 лет назад +10

      XHALE303 Trump supporters are basically morons.

    • @jimbob3030
      @jimbob3030 5 лет назад +4

      @@syourke3 Empty vessels

  • @sabi8381
    @sabi8381 5 лет назад +98

    I took an antiviral drug for my liver about 3 years ago and my insurance refused to pay for the treatment because it was too expensive of a drug. So if you want to be alive, you need to either have money or have a rich uncle. Insurances take your money, but they are not there when you need them the most. They are a bunch of thieves!

    • @2727rogers
      @2727rogers 5 лет назад +7

      Just to let you know, in Canada our single payer system would pay 75% of that drugs cost and if you had a private insurance as well you would only have to pay a dispensing fee of $8.99.

    • @leealexander3507
      @leealexander3507 5 лет назад +2

      I know. My daughter is dead and I'm disabled because health insurance companies denied care.

    • @sabi8381
      @sabi8381 5 лет назад +1

      @@leealexander3507 I'm so sorry to hear hat. My heart goes out to you.. 😞❤️

    • @sabi8381
      @sabi8381 5 лет назад

      @@2727rogers Wow! what a difference!

    • @DanDeLeoninthefield
      @DanDeLeoninthefield 5 лет назад +2

      If one does not have good health, what does one have?

  • @laura1000
    @laura1000 5 лет назад +46

    "The failed social healthcare systems of Europe?" How was Seema Verma not hounded off the stage with such a ridiculous comment? No one in Europe thinks their country's health care system is "failed." Except perhaps those living in the UK. But in that case they think that because the NHS is being progressively privatized. It is the privatization of the NHS the UK that is causing it to fail.

    • @-suphur
      @-suphur 5 лет назад +2

      @samia elmi Keep an eye on the right wing candidates when they get in power there. They defund and slash budget for healthcare to make it fail.
      At the same time, they're giving big tax breaks to the corporations and the wealthy. This goes on in Canada every time that they get a hold of any power, provincially or federally.

    • @dioxygene
      @dioxygene 5 лет назад

      The reasons why the social healthcare systems of Europe are under pressure, not (yet) failed, are the same, however... the sacred, theological laws of ultra-liberalism. I had medical problems since the age of 5 yo, 46 years ago... I've seen the difference since then, and also the difference compared to not-so-"social"-countries... I would have died as a teen whithout it, and my survival still depends on this system, even though i did what i could not just to be a beneficiary but also a contributor.

  • @barthvos845
    @barthvos845 5 лет назад +46

    The last question of Amy Goodman is a very interisting one because in my country, the Netherlands, it is forbidden for farmaceutical companies to publicly advertise for medicines. We don't have "ask your doctor" kind of advertising.

    • @Arjava.
      @Arjava. 5 лет назад +3

      They advertise medicines on news channels for leverage

    • @justathought973
      @justathought973 5 лет назад +7

      It's the same here in Canada, it's against the law for prescription drugs to be advertised.

    • @0ptimisticcynic642
      @0ptimisticcynic642 5 лет назад +4

      Question. How many millions are spent on advertising? And why is big pharma diagnosing and prescribing our health care, on tv, yet? "I saw it on tv, so it must be true". Asking why is unamerican, Look behind the curtain.

    • @barthvos845
      @barthvos845 5 лет назад +3

      @@0ptimisticcynic642 Asking why is exactly what Americans should start doing. Political advertising by big corporations on tv and other media is an abuse of the freedom of speech and a result of the mantra "money=speech". And although I consider freedom of speech a cornerstone of a just society a country can limit the freedom of speech of juridical persons with commercial interests without becoming a dictatorship.

    • @ramiznorthland2946
      @ramiznorthland2946 5 лет назад

      European health system is way ahead of everyone else in the world i know that for a fact

  • @dannsherstone1037
    @dannsherstone1037 5 лет назад +59

    I am Canadian. Everyone in Canada has the same medical care. Nobody tells me what doctor I can see, what hospital I can go to or what treatment I am allowed to have. My province does require monthly payments - but it is based on income levels. Heading into retirement my husband and I pay a joint payment of $23 per month. Prescription medication prices are regulated and seniors are also entitled to discounts. I cannot imagine, given some of the medical issue I have recovered from, having the stress of begging for help and figuring out how to pay on top of being sick. I am so grateful and pray for my neighbours to the South.

    • @XHALE303
      @XHALE303 5 лет назад +2

      Does Canada pay for or give Healthcare to illegals? ….since many seem to think that's an argument against it

    • @miaa7097
      @miaa7097 5 лет назад +18

      @@XHALE303 there is no such thing as illegals. seeking asylum. is legal in Canada and USA.
      i crossed the border to Canada from USA back in 2002. and i declared asylum. waited for year till i got my hearing (which determined im actual refugee and im at risk so i can go back to Somali). fast forward, 17 years later. im nurse consultant who makes 6 figure salary. matter of fact im right now watching this during my lunch.
      i work in communicable disease program, we give healthcare to people because they live among us. if someone has TB or HIV they will spread it so its beneficial for everyone to have coverage for healthcare. it will make society better. now in USA there is outbreak of syphilis, how are you gone control that outbreak if you dont cover everyone??
      btw you already pay for healthcare, Americans spend 17% of their GDP (~1 trillion) on healthcare, but that money is going to insurance.
      USA has the most expensive healthcare system with dismal outcomes. Canadians we spend 50% less USA yet our health outcome is MUCH better. less women die from birth. our life expectancy is way better than yours. cheaper. better outcome. i can go on for hrs
      im doing my MPH online via american university; this statistics should scare you: there are counties in USA that have the same life expectancy as people from Pakistan.
      ask yourself this question: where is 1 trillion dollar of american tax payer money going? its not covering people so where is that money going??
      would not be better to cover EVERYONE and still pay less. if i was running i would said medicare will bring deficit down.
      get ride of insurance company. they are trading at stock exchange. their objectives is to make money not to heal people

    • @XHALE303
      @XHALE303 5 лет назад +7

      @@miaa7097 Take it easy im not american i'm aware of the facts & have affordable Healthcare all my life as a European, i only wanna debunk their horseshit with facts from people in countries who also enjoy ''free'' healthcare

    • @dannsherstone1037
      @dannsherstone1037 5 лет назад +7

      I don't think Mona is angry. She sounds passionate to me. What she is saying is true and frustrating to watch.

    • @hitreset0291
      @hitreset0291 5 лет назад +7

      @@miaa7097 good comment, thank you.

  • @JoanneLG1960
    @JoanneLG1960 5 лет назад +27

    As a Canadian I get great healthcare with just the swipe of a card. It's just barbaric to hear how Americans are dying or going bankrupt because of corporate greed. The US desperately needs Bernie Sanders in the WH

    • @jdcpps
      @jdcpps 5 лет назад +5

      Americans have done this to ourselves, voting for cocksucker Republicans especially.

    • @anthonyahearn5736
      @anthonyahearn5736 5 лет назад +1

      Thanks for giving us Rupert Murdoch. ! Wished he stayed in Canada.

    • @imisstoronto3121
      @imisstoronto3121 5 лет назад +1

      @@anthonyahearn5736 he's Australian, not Canadian. BTW, we tossed FOX from Canada bcs we have no stomach for that right wing bullshit.

    • @maryroberts1813
      @maryroberts1813 5 лет назад

      Go wash yo stAnkin'ass ya foul smelling libtard.

    • @maryroberts1813
      @maryroberts1813 5 лет назад

      @@jdcpps to ourselves dummy?

  • @ttrons2
    @ttrons2 5 лет назад +50

    Greed of some people is inhuman.

    • @TheJakecakes
      @TheJakecakes 5 лет назад +1

      Word!

    • @robdillon2788
      @robdillon2788 5 лет назад

      Medicare for all will never work

    • @ttrons2
      @ttrons2 5 лет назад

      @@robdillon2788 Works just fine where I live.

  • @dorianchriste8645
    @dorianchriste8645 5 лет назад +74

    Happy birthday, Medicare and Medicaid. I lived long enough to enjoy the benefits of it. Best care I have ever had. But I know of many who needed this coverage and did not have it. If we had Medicare for all these last 50+ years, so many would have lived longer, healthier lives
    Let's get this done. Vote for progressives. Vote for the one who has a long consistant history of working for what people need and want. Let's move forward instead of backward.

    • @mywebtv4u
      @mywebtv4u 5 лет назад +4

      Bernie/Warren V.P

    • @navi6981
      @navi6981 5 лет назад +5

      Dorian Christe
      Bernie is definitely the one, then. He has the exact history you mention.

    • @icv109
      @icv109 5 лет назад +3

      You are so right, and on point

    • @leealexander3507
      @leealexander3507 5 лет назад

      My daughter needed it and wasn't old enough at 44. At 47 she's gone. She had insurance but was denied care.

    • @dorianchriste8645
      @dorianchriste8645 5 лет назад

      @@mywebtv4u Wouldn't that be a dream team to win for the people. And defeat the facirsts.
      I can imagine a few more teams, if Warren isn't interested. I hope she will agree.

  • @allenkracalik7662
    @allenkracalik7662 5 лет назад +11

    My next door neighbors at one point were a couple from Poland who were outraged by the time it took to be admitted to a US hospital emergency room when a sudden situation required immediate care. They told me that in Poland, then still part of the Soviet Union, they had NEVER had to wait for needed medical care. They had waited in line to purchase food, but presentation of their identification cards got them prompt admission to a Polish hospital emergency room, and similarly prompt admission for non-emergency care as well. This was in the mid 1980s, and the Soviet Union provided more efficient medical care than the US.

    • @mikaelgaiason688
      @mikaelgaiason688 5 лет назад

      I wait in line to get my food every time. Have you been to Walmart? They only ever have two registers open. The only difference is that after standing there for 20 minutes reading the covers of the tabloids I have to give them all my money. And all my food is cheap packaged poison, not the fresh stuff they got in the USSR. Not sure about hospitals though. Last time I went to one I was 17 and still on my parents insurance from work. With a shattered arm, broken wrist, and dislocated elbow I only had to wait 45 minutes in an empty waiting room. Good thing too, it was just long enough for the shock to wear off. It probably would have been hard for them to get an IV in with how bad I was shaking. If they had actually done anything. They sent me home with tylenol and scheduled a surgery for two days later though. In Omaha. Home of UNMC. Supposed to be just about the best in the country... And no, there isn't any safe position to sleep in when you've got a shattered arm wrapped in an ace bandage. That was a little over 15 years ago though, so I don't know how it is now. I've never been able to afford insurance or qualify for help since then. So I've just sucked it up and gone without. I figure the best I can hope for is when I come down with something serious I go quickly.

  • @ronkirk5099
    @ronkirk5099 5 лет назад +40

    All other industrialized countries have "Medicare" for all and have much lower health care costs and better health outcomes (lower infant mortality, longer life expectancy due to better preventive medicine).The cost for the government to administer such a program is much lower than the administrative costs for private insurance (they have very high salaries for top managers, spend a lot of money to advertised and teams of lawyers to fight your claim). Our cumbersome health system makes us unhealthy and less competitive in the global economy. But, with the power of the health industry, we will never get a "Medicare" for all system. We screwed up when private health insurance was provided to employees in lieu of higher wages during WWII.

    • @karengrice2303
      @karengrice2303 5 лет назад +3

      ronkirk50 So true. I heard recently that the mortality rate for mothers giving birth in America has increased by an obscene rate. We are ranked with third world countries.

    • @Hughster49
      @Hughster49 5 лет назад

      ronkirk50 Then move to one of those countries!

    • @jimbob3030
      @jimbob3030 5 лет назад +4

      @@Hughster49 Trump and republican treasonous leadership have us on the fast track to being a 3rd world country. No need to go to one, its coming.

    • @karengrice2303
      @karengrice2303 5 лет назад +3

      The insurance industry has also created very complex billing systems with multiple tiers of coverage which increases the cost of processing billing and allows the insurance industry to screw us even more. It must end because it is destroying the economic stability of our nation.

    • @-suphur
      @-suphur 5 лет назад

      @@karengrice2303 The overall life expectancy also dropped again in the US.

  • @madpatriot4608
    @madpatriot4608 5 лет назад +20

    if we can afford billions on war, we sure can afford free health insurance, and college education

    • @mmca9323
      @mmca9323 5 лет назад +3

      You're so right,I wish we would all vote in favor of these things

    • @dsmmsd00
      @dsmmsd00 5 лет назад +2

      But we're all afraid of ISIS tho. 800 bases worldwide and we're afraid. $700,000,000,000+ spent to make us feel afraid.

    • @dsmmsd00
      @dsmmsd00 5 лет назад

      @COASTA LOECSTA The only media person who refers to this lawbreaking by the Pentagon is the great Nader. No one else is allowed to bring it up. Fear of career reprisal.

    • @maryroberts1813
      @maryroberts1813 5 лет назад

      I want free shit,gimme.

  • @michaelcre8
    @michaelcre8 5 лет назад +90

    Thank you Democracy Now! for bringing us this discussion. We need honest media to expose the corporate lies that dominate the corporate media including too much of the non-profit corporate media like NPR and PBS.

    • @jimbob3030
      @jimbob3030 5 лет назад

      @UCimxZRSVoLl3snuTxIO9keQ Are you a self aware treasonous to democracy fascist? Putin welcomes you to go there, where you wont be bothered by liberals and liberal democracy.

    • @kennethchay1098
      @kennethchay1098 5 лет назад +4

      @@jimbob3030 You need to up your troll game. You just sound like an unhinged loser. At least try to do something more sophisticated than "PUTIN!". You might get fired from your trolling job unless you can add a tiny bit of creativity. Ignore what I just wrote if you're post was meant to be sarcastic or ironic instead of moronic.

    • @kennethchay1098
      @kennethchay1098 5 лет назад +3

      Also, come up with a better trolling name, otherwise you give the strong impression that you're not even American. Ignore if your tag was chosen for it's comedic value. In that case, just improve your comedy.

    • @jimbob3030
      @jimbob3030 5 лет назад

      @@kennethchay1098 Do you always jump into conversatuons having nothing to do with you? The guy i responded to has deleted his post, so you dont even know what the conversation was about.
      Are you triggered by the words fsscism and russia?

    • @atrociousconsequences4432
      @atrociousconsequences4432 5 лет назад +1

      How can be "corporate media" and also be "liberal media" at the same time ?

  • @DougGrinbergs
    @DougGrinbergs 5 лет назад +60

    2:07 LBJ signs Medicare. In Canada, Tommy Douglas introduced universal Medicare in Saskatchewan in 1961, adopted in 1962, with national health insurance in 1966.

    • @rahulmajumdar2929
      @rahulmajumdar2929 5 лет назад +10

      Premier Douglas - father of Medicare - got the ball rolling in Saskatchewan after his first election in 1944 with a series of health reforms. His successor, Woodrow Stanley Lloyd, completed Douglas' work by guiding Canada's first Medicare program from legislation to implementation in 1962.

    • @cubangal1
      @cubangal1 5 лет назад +8

      our hero.....Tommy Douglas!!!!!cheers!!! BTW All Canadian doctors were against it as well.....

    • @hitreset0291
      @hitreset0291 5 лет назад +7

      @MJB For Trump dickhead.

    • @Phantus00
      @Phantus00 5 лет назад +8

      @MJB For Trump Canada's health care system produces superior medical outcomes to the US for half the price. It's public knowledge and readily available information on the internet. You're being lied to.

    • @lafuerza113
      @lafuerza113 5 лет назад +5

      @@cubangal1 Oh yes, Cdn doctors were ready to go on strike to stop Medicare. Tommy Douglas was a true hero of the people of Canada.

  • @mytmike369
    @mytmike369 5 лет назад +64

    Excellent job! I'll share this, I hope others will.

    • @leealexander3507
      @leealexander3507 5 лет назад +1

      Already did. I'm old enough to remember the propaganda and recognize the reruns.

  • @OuterGalaxyLounge
    @OuterGalaxyLounge 5 лет назад +5

    It's incredibly valuable when you get a guy like this on the right side; a guy who has been a part of the scam, knows how it works and can call it out straight up.

  • @russellesimonetta3835
    @russellesimonetta3835 5 лет назад +34

    I remember this!! I was 8 yrs old. I felt like it was propaganda!! Want to make america better???? Vote progressive.

    • @mikaelgaiason688
      @mikaelgaiason688 5 лет назад

      Vote radical. Better yet, don't vote. It'll be gerrymandered into uselessness. Instead look at the history of the class struggle. Look at the things done by the elite. Think long and hard about the only thing that actually gives them power. Think about what purpose money really serves. When people start screaming that financial incentive is needed for human progress, try and think of a single person that actually built the world our civilization is built on. Think about how every person that actually created something that bettered our lives didn't do it for a fat check. On the contrary, most of them lived very humble lives. Most died absolutely flat broke like Tesla. The rich got a whole lot richer by somehow "owning" their creations and ideas, and charging the world for using gifts that were meant to be free. According to the brilliant minds that initially had the capacity to create them at least.

  • @hlmuench4212
    @hlmuench4212 5 лет назад +49

    Free and brave go hand in hand. If you are made to fear, you are at risk of losing liberty.

    • @gnomechomsky2524
      @gnomechomsky2524 5 лет назад +3

      Wise statement

    • @syourke3
      @syourke3 5 лет назад +3

      What liberty? You think you’re free? Ha! That’s a joke.

    • @Hughster49
      @Hughster49 5 лет назад

      Do you think government run anything is liberty?

    • @XHALE303
      @XHALE303 5 лет назад +6

      @@Hughster49 The government doesn't run our Healthcare, they only negotiate prices
      which gives us the liberty to not die or go bankrupt over med bills & 10x overpriced medicines

    • @jimbob3030
      @jimbob3030 5 лет назад

      @@Hughster49 You "real patriots" sure do seem to hate the government.

  • @Bookhermit
    @Bookhermit 5 лет назад +6

    There is only ONE THING keeping most normal people from supporting health care for all - their current coverage through work. They don't want to lose that value, and with most of the current idiotic plans, they would.
    Simply include a provision to mandate that all employers must pay the employees the full amount of their former health coverage as a raise in their wages. Costs NOTHING more for employers, and gives millions of workers huge pay raises. THEN they will be willing to have taxes to cover health care for all.

  • @bitbugsbyte
    @bitbugsbyte 5 лет назад +4

    Wendell Potter's testimony was very revealing! Everything he said made a lot of sense! Follow the money! I used to live in America and now I love living in Italy because of their free health care system! It is not like that lobbyist said either, it is wonderful! My prescriptions are free!

  • @PatriciaSantos-br5et
    @PatriciaSantos-br5et 5 лет назад +12

    "Pharma creates customers, pharma does not create cures." "Doctors medicate, doctors don't educate." We need to open our conversation to prevention of disease, as well as, complementary, integrative, alternative and holistic medicine, this needs to be included in Health Care for all. I don't want insurance, I want assurance.

    • @KittredgeRitter
      @KittredgeRitter 5 лет назад

      I agree. I would be skeptical of holistic medicine though. Some things they do was okay but other things harmed me and others. It's alittle crazy with them.

    • @dsmmsd00
      @dsmmsd00 5 лет назад +1

      The best medicine is found in the wise choice of a healthy diet and regular exercise. Where is that drilled into our people?

    • @maryroberts1813
      @maryroberts1813 5 лет назад

      I'd rather be reeeally medicated ya knothead.

  • @kathybrintlinger9993
    @kathybrintlinger9993 5 лет назад +6

    How I wish he could speak on mainstream media! I realize they’d never allow that.

    • @caracrabtree715
      @caracrabtree715 5 лет назад

      Never happen, who are the biggest advertisers on msm? Also I remember when almost all mass shootings were people on or came of of antidepresants, you no longer hear that part on the news anymore either

    • @DanDeLeoninthefield
      @DanDeLeoninthefield 5 лет назад

      Check out Sunday morning programming. I know it's distasteful (I don't like it), but Sanders is on fairly often on the "alphabet" channels.

  • @bceyre8204
    @bceyre8204 5 лет назад +6

    America you went to the moon for crying out loud, but Universal Healthcare is in the too hard basket?????

    • @Hughster49
      @Hughster49 5 лет назад

      Bc Eyre We don’t want government running our healthcare.

    • @bceyre8204
      @bceyre8204 5 лет назад

      @@Hughster49 This is a genuine question, why not?

    • @Baker.Matthew
      @Baker.Matthew 5 лет назад +2

      Nazz Boner let government run your nuclear bombs but not your healthcare?

    • @imisstoronto3121
      @imisstoronto3121 5 лет назад

      @@Hughster49 Government run services do not make profit, like a private company. They dont tell the doctor what test he/she can run, or make medical decisions. Clerks in cubicles do not decide medical outcomes. Not in Canada's system. In yours, yes. You sure a private company has your health as its main interest, or its own bottom line??

  • @nazmussaquib5883
    @nazmussaquib5883 5 лет назад +8

    Waiting is WAY better than getting sick and do not get care. How hard is it to understand?

    • @chezmoi42
      @chezmoi42 5 лет назад +1

      And the waiting is usually only for optional procedures, not emergencies. In France, it takes a long time to get an appointment with my opthalmologist, but if I had an emergency, he would fit me in at once. An English friend with a detached retina had that experience, and was very pleased with his treatment. We just have to wait a little longer to renew our eyeglasses.

    • @mikaelgaiason688
      @mikaelgaiason688 5 лет назад

      @@chezmoi42 Here in America I can get new glasses whenever I want (can afford). Just finally replaced my scratched up nasty pair I've been wearing for the last 10 years. Only cost me $480 too. :(

    • @mikaelgaiason688
      @mikaelgaiason688 5 лет назад

      @@chezmoi42 I'm glad you caught my sarcasm. Too often it's missed in type. :) I don't have eye insurance. It would cost so much I would need to get a new pair of glasses every 5 months for it to pay for itself. Unfortunately the pair I got is only almost 2 months old and I already have a pinhole chip in the right lens and a light scratch dead center on the left lens. I have no idea how though, being brand new I've been VERY careful with them. I had to go with a more expensive frame to find something that fit. I've got a very angular face. So unfortunately these new lenses don't have any of the optional extras like scratch and uv protection. Those add a lot to the cost here.

  • @bruceswearingen7718
    @bruceswearingen7718 5 лет назад +19

    " a crisis of conscience" .., how refreshing

  • @Joseph1NJ
    @Joseph1NJ 5 лет назад +4

    The US: Still fighting for national healthcare...
    The rest of of the first world: Been there, done that. What's the problem?

    • @jdcpps
      @jdcpps 5 лет назад +1

      Greed

  • @julietag4
    @julietag4 5 лет назад +3

    I support Medicare for all completely! I have suffered consequences to my health because my private insurance rejects procedures or treatment I have needed! My Mom died because private insurance denied a surgery that would have saved her life! Medicare for all now!

  • @oldschoolman1444
    @oldschoolman1444 5 лет назад +3

    A two hour visit to the ER to find out you have a infection cost $12,000 I know firsthand!

    • @imisstoronto3121
      @imisstoronto3121 5 лет назад

      Thats just insane!!

    • @liesbethdevries4986
      @liesbethdevries4986 5 лет назад +1

      Wow, we pay nothing. The hospital sends a 10 Euros bill after 3 months for 1 day in hospital.

  • @Heather-zk5eu
    @Heather-zk5eu 5 лет назад +4

    'We can have both systems" = Insurance companies are funding my campaign.

  • @rebeccajohnson8579
    @rebeccajohnson8579 5 лет назад +4

    I so wish there was a Higher Being who could FREEZE the tongues of those LIARS, as they spill from their mouths!

  • @mindjoystudio6436
    @mindjoystudio6436 5 лет назад +3

    Nearly every time I have ever managed to see a doctor it was at the emergency room. Nearly every time, I was prescribed medication that I wasn't able to purchase and so just went home to find myself in the same state as before I got myself dressed, to the hospital, waited, waited, got seen, went to the pharmacy, got the bad news, left, went home. No help whatsoever. I stopped going or even trying to go about two years ago. I just said to myself " you have to be your own doctor from now on" . Thats so great you know. I had to go to court recently and I also had to be my own lawyer. That's America I guess. It feels like there is no longer a reason to be proud to be American or to even stay in The United States. Our government hates us. That's the beat up conclusion I have come to. I'm beat up by the struggle and the lack of anything in place to really help at all.

  • @veganwinter2090
    @veganwinter2090 5 лет назад +3

    Do not we already have socialized military and socialized police ?

  • @perisemiotics3204
    @perisemiotics3204 5 лет назад +2

    "failed socialized healthcare systems of Europe"... riiiiiiight.

  • @preasail
    @preasail 5 лет назад +4

    THAT was one of the most informative programs in such a short amount of time that I've ever seen! Thanks!

  • @dowobeha6875
    @dowobeha6875 5 лет назад +2

    I LOVE!!! my healthcare here in Canada! Yes, we pay higher taxes, BUT we gladly pay them to have such peace of mind and not having to worry about how we'll afford unforeseen medical bills. Illness is already stressful enough without the added burden of outrageously unfair medical and prescription costs. I've had several surgeries and procedures over the years and never had a problem with quality of care. No rationing, no disproportionately long wait times. We would have surely lost our family home to bankruptcy and could never ever afford the medication I'm on if we lived in the States. We are genuinely grateful for our healthcare system. I truly hope Bernie Sanders can resolve this issue and get the voters on board for America's sake.

  • @BLUEBARRY55
    @BLUEBARRY55 5 лет назад +3

    I had Blue Cross PPO. Got cancer. 4 years of chemo. Deductibles and co-pays caused me to lose my house and liquidate my retirement. Not complaining. But, I know that I cannot be The Lone Ranger. So, I'm speaking out. Our competitors in Canada spend no energy on medical issues. They don't worry. They focus on their craft. The worry is the killer.

    • @mrfuzztone
      @mrfuzztone 5 лет назад +1

      Thanks for your story. People don't realize the problem with the current insurance system until they get really sick.

  • @dertbom
    @dertbom 5 лет назад +2

    Who doesn't like free stuff other than the people trying to sell you something.

  • @michellem7290
    @michellem7290 5 лет назад +2

    Wow, I remember those stories of long waiting lines. Thanks for this

  • @discodirk48
    @discodirk48 5 лет назад +2

    Insurance is like gambling! Sometimes you win , most of the time you lose!

  • @VelMa-opinion
    @VelMa-opinion 5 лет назад +1

    Finland's healthcare system is *not* failing! I had an appointment with an orthopaedist in March this year, now I've had an operation, my incision is healed, my tibia is healed and next month I'm going back to see if I need an artificial knee, which I'll have before Christmas this year! The cost to me for the whole thing? Circa $125!
    There's a clear policy on the rightwing nutjob circles to want to privatise and commodify healthcare, because that would allow for more tax cuts. But up to 80 to 85% of the population want to fix the funding and even raise taxes if needed to keep the system of universal single payer care. It's not as straightforward as that but that's what most seem to think (there's elements of a mixed system which many do not realise). I've lived in Helsinki Finland for five years, and I've had my teeth done, stayed in hospital for a few days with a serious life-threatening infection etc. Basically any of the above could have bankrupted me, the infection would have killed me, stateside. No way I could have paid for the hospital stay in the infection ward.

  • @aztec8888
    @aztec8888 5 лет назад +1

    I am a retired California teacher and I moved to Costa Rica where I pay into the universal healthcare system called CAJA and I have dental, glasses, medical exams, lab work, xrays, emergency services, operations all covered by a monthly fee that is 10% of my income. People who have less than a median amount of income pay a sliding lower percent. Everyone here gets health coverage. The very wealthy have to pay 10% of their income. Period. No, I do not have to wait in long lines, I wait for a similar time as I did when I went to Kaiser in California. There are private hospitals here too. I have a choice. Maybe I want to pay out of pocket for an exam or lab work - it is easy and fast if I want to pay out of pocket at a private medical office. And guess what? The out of pocket cost is cheaper here than anything in the U.S. So, the propaganda is all a lie. In addition, I remember needing a doctor in London and on another trip to Austria. It was cheap and totally a different experience. The U.S. totally advertises itself as the best and only if you travel a lot do you get another truer view of the situation.

  • @pullmyfinger6438
    @pullmyfinger6438 5 лет назад +5

    "If man made it don't eat it" Jack Lalane

  • @johnellis7614
    @johnellis7614 5 лет назад +1

    We now spend $3.5 trillion a year to give healthcare to 248 million, leaving 82 million with little to no healthcare. With Medicare for all, every citizen or visitor in the U.S. would receive free healthcare. And if a restriction required patients to have a healthy 10% fat diet and no addictions, yearly healthcare costs would drop to $1.5 trillion or less.

  • @SteveMoyer
    @SteveMoyer 5 лет назад +3

    We don't need insurance; we need health care.

  • @stormysnyder4693
    @stormysnyder4693 5 лет назад +2

    Fabulous interview! Wonderful choice of guest to have on the show!! Thank you for being the media that our society needs to watch. Bravo! Please keep up the great work and THANK YOU to this man for coming forward with all of this invaluable information (FACTS).

  • @yogiwolf6396
    @yogiwolf6396 5 лет назад +2

    How come it took a 70 year old man named Bernie Sanders to get this issue in the spotlight and get it the attention the respect and eventually the Justice it deserves how did he do it and he's not even president could you imagine if he was president what he could do oh what a beautiful world this would be

  • @Caitlin_TheGreat
    @Caitlin_TheGreat 5 лет назад +2

    It's worth pointing out that "Socialized" isn't the scary term they think it is. Millennials (roughly 25 to 39 year olds) are far more accepting of the ideas of Socialism, as we have been subjected to the harsh failings of Capitalism and as such the critiques brought up by Marx and by Socialism are incredibly sensible. For-profit is not an answer to anything. For-profit is a dangerous way to do anything and everything and at best can be manageable but at worst is highly destructive and corrosive to the things it touches. Socialized medical coverage actually makes a lot more sense than trying to Capitalize on it and causing suffering and death in the process.
    Of course, Boomers and even most Gen X individuals are still under the spell of Capitalism and its propaganda. They still have internalized the fear mongering of "people looking out for one another" as a bad thing. The concept of the "common good" has been made to seem evil to many of them who have been conditioned to believe that the selfishness necessary in Capitalism is somehow good rather than destructive, that the mechanisms that encourage and reward lying and cheating don't result in horrible outcomes because when Capitalism hurts people, it's because those people deserve to be hurt. It's somewhat amazing the amount of brainwashing Capitalism has done to generations of people, turning them against one another and even making them turn against themselves at times. And so many of them simply cannot conceive of a society that operates any differently because they've also been conditioned to believe the constant turmoil and destructiveness is normal, that it's somehow a natural part of human behavior to hurt and be hurt and to constantly fear.

    • @DanDeLeoninthefield
      @DanDeLeoninthefield 5 лет назад

      But aren't millennials the "I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW!!!" generation?😛 Sorry about that, but it does get tiring to keep hearing this generational "divide and conquer" nonsense.

  • @jamesl9371
    @jamesl9371 5 лет назад +1

    Universal health care like Canada is the way to go. Everyone is covered. No exorbitant fees. No premiums. No co pays. No pre existing conditions. I’ve lived with for over 60 years and quite happy with it. And don’t believe the lies. I’ve never gone to America for health care. I don’t have unreasonable wait time for service

  • @jagdavies1
    @jagdavies1 5 лет назад +1

    Scotland here....To a lot of people in uk...the usa is like an underdeveloped..pre-industrial country when it comes to healthcare. That's even with the conservative's deliberate destruction of the nhs tactics..it is impossible for us to understand the sheer terror of what it must be like.

  • @narrativematrix9971
    @narrativematrix9971 5 лет назад +2

    Why won’t you give TulsiGabbard more exposure. The one candidate that’s a minority, women, soldier, environmental isn’t, Congress women and the one candidate speaking out against war?

  • @ralphcolerick4939
    @ralphcolerick4939 5 лет назад +1

    i had open heart surgery last year and bypass surgery. medicare and a supplement policy was a real blessing. i'm 69 and low income. i'd be bankrupt if i didn't have it

  • @lapinchechismosa
    @lapinchechismosa 5 лет назад +2

    Jig is up! Europe and Canada LOVE their government healthcare!

  • @katayfa
    @katayfa 5 лет назад +4

    Every talking point agaist m4a all the scare tactics are simply false. Take it from someone who lives in Australia with the same program bernie is trying to bring you. If you want insurance you buy it. For such things as elective surgury you get to skip the que, a private room etc but you get the same care that everyone else gets.

  • @stephenarling1667
    @stephenarling1667 5 лет назад +2

    Wendell Potter was an excellent interview.

  • @MrFucktard12345
    @MrFucktard12345 5 лет назад +1

    Without every single person under single payer insurance, we will not have collective bargaining against pharmaceutical companies, it will also be harder to bring the cost of the insurance itself down as everyone (specifically the rich) would not be contributing.

  • @mijemumijemu4466
    @mijemumijemu4466 5 лет назад +1

    Has private insurance ever paid for any medical bill? Haven't seen any example in my lifetime.

  • @jeremyboehm5512
    @jeremyboehm5512 5 лет назад +2

    Profiteering has made healthcare accessible to less and less people unless you are willing to bankrupt yourself.

  • @heartonmysleeves4668
    @heartonmysleeves4668 5 лет назад +1

    Remember when Democracy Now helped bury Bernie in 2016 by ignoring his campaign? There's plenty of independant media to hear more about Progressive Politics: Status Coup, Lee Camp, Tim Black, Niko House, Jimmy Dore, Rational National, Secular Talk, Humanist Report, Kim Iverson, and Ron Placone. I'm watching you closely this time around NPR folks! Don't ignore Bernie and Tulsi!

  • @jamesl9371
    @jamesl9371 5 лет назад +1

    It’s absolutely true. The things they say about Canadians health care is almost totally false. Very few Canadians would want the Americans style health care. Only some right wing rich people would want private insurance. Most Canadians are mostly happy with the system

  • @PMunkS
    @PMunkS 5 лет назад +1

    Why is it that the socialized war industry is tolerated whereas a socialized healthcare industry is viewed with contempt?

  • @Skanzool
    @Skanzool 5 лет назад +1

    I'm also Canadian - the problem with the Democrats is the party is divided, it's not really a left-wing party, it's a party where many of the members are actually conservatives. This Hickenlooper for example is really a Republican.

  • @davids.3534
    @davids.3534 5 лет назад +2

    Let's stop talking and find a solution for all of us. I for one am beyond tired of all the bull💩.

  • @mijemumijemu4466
    @mijemumijemu4466 5 лет назад +2

    Well, we can get free golf vacations in Mara Largo for Trump and Crew but you don't need any medical care bro.

  • @mikemccag
    @mikemccag 5 лет назад +1

    As rare as a sasquatch, a health insurance exec with a conscience.

  • @Heather-zk5eu
    @Heather-zk5eu 5 лет назад +1

    I would like to hear the question - 'who are your funders?'

  • @missyv8900
    @missyv8900 5 лет назад

    Did LBJ say almost all of the 19 million U.S. senior citizens in 1965 after working all their lives couldn't afford healthcare so enacted Medicare? That doesn't sound like the American Dream. It sounds like a nightmare. Almost all other developed countries have had the right of health care for approx 70 years.

  • @bobs182
    @bobs182 5 лет назад +1

    Medicare for all would help relieve the burden corporations have of providing health insurance for their employees so why don't non insurance corporations support universal health care? Corporations providing health insurance for employees in the US while the rest of the world has it through government programs puts US corporations at a competitive disadvantage.

    • @theresewalters1696
      @theresewalters1696 5 лет назад

      You would think business would be for M4all if it relieves them of the burden of offering healthcare. Especially small business owners.

  • @MawcDrums
    @MawcDrums 5 лет назад

    I'm on Medicaid right now because of my low income, I am hopeful for medicare for all because right now NO doctors are in my network, the only dentists and doctors I can go to are chains in strip malls and just feel like they're thrown together, low budget, etc.

  • @caracrabtree715
    @caracrabtree715 5 лет назад +1

    Would also free up people that feel handcuffed to their jobs for their overpriced crappy insurance to open businesses or continue education, we're being pushed down and out of opportunities, having to work 2/3 jobs to survive or pay for insurance premium and added costs, forget it if you need daycare. Then they panic they won't have enough future tax payers labors to get their $3tril loans from IMF and World Bank when the birthrates go down

  • @RoxanneM-
    @RoxanneM- 5 лет назад

    I once asked a person from India, a physician and friend, why so many coming from India, here in the United States vote Republican, and she said, “Because they think they are white.” She said it, not me. But very enlightening. They also are the immigrants with the highest income and level of compartmentalized education in the US.

  • @hotrodzwife
    @hotrodzwife 5 лет назад

    I used to be a trainer at a PPO network. If a hospital bill cost $400,000 and the PPO network is able to save the insurance company $200,000 then the PPO network gets 25% of that savings. It’s all a big racket!

  • @realdealholyfield3699
    @realdealholyfield3699 5 лет назад

    All you have to say to people who argue against medical for all or another single payer program, “do you believe that healthcare is a human right and not a privilege?” If they say yes but then say they would like to do a comprise like a “public option” then they don’t really believe in healthcare as a human right. A public option, while adding millions on healthcare, still leaves millions uninsured, and by default, making healthcare a privilege. Plain and simple.

  • @ryanjulian4148
    @ryanjulian4148 5 лет назад

    I was trying to find this guy, Wendell Potter. I'm from Canada, Corporate America knows they would be sorry if "Medicare for All" was adopted, cause we face the same talking points to reverse our Medicare after it was introduce, but a couple elections after, the party that ran against it got crushed. Now days they campaign by only improving it. if you really think about it, it be a big win for unions, small business and some big business (almost like tax cut) to allow to hire employees without the hassle, a healthier workforce and to employ the right worker for the job without worrying of any pre-exist condition, this will help profits, improve work performance and get rid of the added payroll waste of lawyers and other staff to negotiate year after year with insurance companies. America say it about a free market system, to allow competition, its not competition when companies collude with each other to make as much profit as possible, Bernie's right "Health Care is a Human Right"
    Dems got make it happen, cause no one needs a win more then the Dem

  • @fredericmalone5083
    @fredericmalone5083 5 лет назад +1

    People in their 20s, 30s, and 40s, who don't have serious health issues, should all cancel their health insurance. Individuals can put the money they're saving into a emergency fund, and stop giving money to the insurance companies. Doctors prefer to ger paid by individuals anyway, because it's less of a hassle. Many will work out special rates if you don't have insurance involved, and they will also work out payment plans.
    What happens to the insurance industry if 50 million relatively healthy people cancel their $200 to $300/month insurance? They would lose $10 to $15 billion/month!

  • @ronniefurbs
    @ronniefurbs 2 месяца назад

    The insurance industry in general is out of control in all areas. OUT OF CONTROL!

  • @lisaeischens2352
    @lisaeischens2352 5 лет назад +1

    I love Bernie and Elizabeth!

  • @catfishblues6153
    @catfishblues6153 5 лет назад +1

    Mr. Potter, I am at the low income of the spectrum and I can't afford ACA, and even if I could I couldn't afford to use it due to the high deductibles and co-pays. Not to diminish your work, but there is more to it than what you (had time to) articulate.

  • @phillipbertrand8514
    @phillipbertrand8514 5 лет назад

    As a Canadian i have never hesitated to go see my doctor (sometimes a 2/3 week wait) or go to a clinic ( 1 or 2) hour wait or strait to emergency. Never worried that I would get a bill.

  • @jamesl9371
    @jamesl9371 5 лет назад +1

    Go Bernie go! Vote Democrat

  • @gradualuprisintheory
    @gradualuprisintheory 5 лет назад

    I recieve zero medical care last yr but was charged $700 by the IRS for not buying into insusrance.

  • @MawcDrums
    @MawcDrums 5 лет назад

    Another comment on how ACA had subsidies affecting mainly low income people. I am on medicaid, it covers only barebones procedures. My example: I needed a root canal on a molar, I was not approved for financing (duh) and medicaid wouldn't cover the root canal procedure. I would have had to come up with $2800 out of pocket as someone who works a nearly minimum wage job. Yes I have coverage, but it only covered getting the tooth extracted. The molar was otherwise healthy, deep seated, and did not want to come out. The extraction broke my upper jaw bone taking a piece of it with the tooth, necessitating a 1 inch laceration to remove bone fragments leaving a gaping wound in my gum. It hurt. It was the last molar on that side of my mouth and now I have no biting surface and the lower teeth are growing up causing further complications. If I had more money, better insurance, or better credit this wouldn't have been an issue. Being poor is more expensive in every aspect of life.

  • @Theendofeverything7036
    @Theendofeverything7036 5 лет назад

    I enjoy seeing Wendell Potter speaking out against insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

  • @alangibson3293
    @alangibson3293 5 лет назад

    Private health is failing in Australia. 68,000 people opted out in 2018, go figure.

  • @darleneshriver3270
    @darleneshriver3270 5 лет назад

    I have been working n Medicare for many years. Not once have I been denied care recommend by my doctor's. Recently I have had 2 major surgerys on my leg due to a bone infection. After 9 months I am still healing. I have great care by a great doctor, and his team. Plus at home care. However, there are some things that should be covered, eyes (glasses), dental ( dentures, implants) hearing (hearing aids) , medical transport to doctors and etc. I have had more problems with prescriptions! Some not covered which is not right!

  • @angelamolette4568
    @angelamolette4568 5 лет назад

    Why did Wendell Potter say People who are rich and people who are poor are doing ok? The Poor are not ok.

  • @krystalgustin1409
    @krystalgustin1409 5 лет назад

    Thank You so much for the intelligent and honest reporting.

  • @valitademaricedelacouvrier2617
    @valitademaricedelacouvrier2617 5 лет назад

    @Rahul Majumdar Please note that Mr. Tommy Shoyama was an economic adviser to Premier Tommy Douglas and Premier Woodrow Lloyd, where he was one of the architects of the provincial medicare system. You might be aware that Kiefer Sutherland is the grandson of the late Tommy Douglas. Kiefer’s mother Shirley is the daughter of Tommy Douglas who is divorced Donald Sutherland,

  • @riproarin1042
    @riproarin1042 5 лет назад

    I'd just like to say that every criticism is being levied by the corporations in hopes the people will repeat it to each other--nobody's buying what the media is saying any more. I'm pumped for Tulsi Gabbard because she isn't afraid of the labels and will cut through the B.S. I still love ya Bernie. Thank you Democracy Now and your guests for this piece.

  • @joebobjenkins7837
    @joebobjenkins7837 4 года назад

    The only thing I need to oppose Medicare for all is seeing people on Medicare and thinking, "screw that"

  • @gregscott989
    @gregscott989 5 лет назад +1

    13:59...Wendell Potter: "She's using the same talking points...".
    ...No, she's lying.

  • @janebeatty9472
    @janebeatty9472 5 лет назад

    Well then...Just how much more are Seniors going to pay when this magical one-payer system appears?

  • @lisas7476
    @lisas7476 5 лет назад

    The insurance companies are not going to let it happen. Unless they get the money and all those medicare advantage plans are horrible for all !

  • @damnedyankee946
    @damnedyankee946 5 лет назад

    I worked one year for a well known Insurance company. ( It's all about the premiums and commissions, and getting rich ) You have a conscience? You won't make money and will fail.

  • @yarnpower
    @yarnpower 5 лет назад

    The AMA, not most doctors themselves, is partially at fault for us not having Medicare For All as well as a shortage of doctors. They have not allowed an increase in medical schools or residency programs, needed to finish a doctors training, despite our population growing these past decades.

  • @samwisegalenorn
    @samwisegalenorn 5 лет назад

    Why can't other media outlets perform as good coverage of this issue as Democracy Now?

    • @brian_be_flyin
      @brian_be_flyin 5 лет назад

      Samwise Galenorn they’re on the big pharma payroll

  • @bz3105
    @bz3105 5 лет назад

    My wife and I live in the U.S. We had a baby in June. Our medical bill for three days at the hospital was around $7,500.00. We DO have medical insurance and are paying around $350.00 a month for it. I'm sorry, but any regular person who STILL supports the "system" we currently have, here, is just lost. Maybe it's because they're hopelessly partisan; maybe it's because they lack critical thinking skills and are susceptible to the kind of propaganda discussed in this great piece; maybe it's for another reason. But they are lost and I don't think it's even a matter of opinion at this point.

  • @GreenIvy3834
    @GreenIvy3834 5 лет назад

    Thank you I have forward this to my family and friends. BERNIE SANDERS 2020🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸