Have you yet tested its performance? What was the maximum efficiency, and what medium did you use then? And one more question, is the max pressure of the turbine because of the housings ? If i put same pressure outside that is inside. In my mind that would equalize the pressure limit of the turbin?!
Why is this question so hard to tell for tesla turbine builders? I just want to know what efficiency you did get when tested? The efficiency of the tesla turbine is not written in stone for one particular tesla turbine, If you change one variable like the nossle mabi a higher efficiency is gotten. You can tell what efficiency YOU did get with it. People will still buy it, because they can change perameters. Am I wrong?
With your nozzle design you are working on volume, is volume better than pressure (do you class this as a low speed torque turbine) if you were converting some of the volume to pressure by using a slot nozzle you would be getting more speed?
Correct. Nozzle design is something customers (and we may play with). In fact I have a prototype slot nozzle in the pipeline. Really depends on what fluid, volume and pressures you are working with. In theory a nozzle producing a high pressure, fast flow should produce better results. At least for many applications.
Look at the possibility of running this on cold steam... under an only moderate vaccum, water will boil at temps that are safe (below 150°F). Just need hotter at the evaporator source and a cooler than boiling point condenser... check out Jeremiah's project with cold steam and tesla turbines. Channel is his name... search that and cold steam and you should have it. Since it operates at low temps on the high side (evaporator), and under a vaccum, there is no explosion or scalding hazard, and the turbine operates on the water vapor under totally achievable levels of vaccum. When water vapor travels in a heat pipe, it can reach supersonic velocity, and the tech takes advantage of the vaccum, to leverage the ~1600x expansin of water, to allow efficient extraction of energy, with minimal temperature differentials, easily achievable with non concentrating solar thermal collecor panels. (Like the evacuated tube collectors that use heat pipes to transfer the heat efficiently to the tank above them) Hope this comment inspires you.
Thank you very much this information. I have thought about this before. At the moment I'm concentrating on efficiency of the turbine and general testing. The turbine is very adaptable and any performance increases I can wring out will be usable with just about any application/medium. I have a few focus areas where I'm aiming to make improvements.
@@gyroscopes Hey man, in case you are still doing this. I love doing research and can have quite a "birds eye view" over certain things. 1. The best way to use this invention, is to actually have it on the SAME axis as a "Vacuum pump." The difference between them also, is that the turbine has the more "tear drop" shaped holes, whereas the (vacuum) pump has more taper-shaped holes \ /. So you place them on the same axis. Separated, with a round hole in the middle. The idea is that the steam spins the turbine, which in turn spins the pumps on both side, which essentially "toss the air outwards" creating a suction. This creates a vacuum which spins the turbine faster, then vacuum pump on both sides spin faster, etc. 2. For an even better efficiency, the ball-bearings on both sides can be replaced with an air-bearing. Since there is a pump on both sides of the axle, it can be configured to suck enough air, to keep the air-bearing going. Which produces a frictionless spin. 3. The inlets actually need to be on the opposite ends, 180 degrees to each other. 4. To balance the axis, with turbine and vacuum pumps and air/ball bearings on both ends, you can use Tesla's "Dynamic Balancing Machine." With all these things together, I am sure that anybody can product cheap and clean electricity from their house. We just need the mathematics for it.
The Mk4 design was 95% finished about 2 years ago. One part bothered me and I kept putting off finishing and working on other projects. Then a company had a special project for it, it forced me to finish the last bit of the design. It was the nozzle that was troubling me. I wanted to keep the seals to minimum, while keeping with a budget and not compromising the design. It was a tricky part to make but everybody that sees thinks it is a really nice tactile and lovely looking.
@@northernmetalworker it's in the patents. you have to account for flow rate and designed rpm. what you have now is too small from an eye test. start at the patent work from there. otherwise you'll have a low efficiency turbine. i'm scared to know what your discs look like
@@xxxBradTxxx yes. A decade ago I did tests with lots of materials. You need something rigid. If you light weight disks they spin up quickly but otherwise there is no performance advantage. Stainless steel is used so that steam and high temperature gasses can be used.
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What rpm will your generator handle?
Waiting to pay you for one of these lol
Have you yet tested its performance?
What was the maximum efficiency, and what medium did you use then?
And one more question, is the max pressure of the turbine because of the housings ?
If i put same pressure outside that is inside. In my mind that would equalize the pressure limit of the turbin?!
Why is this question so hard to tell for tesla turbine builders? I just want to know what efficiency you did get when tested? The efficiency of the tesla turbine is not written in stone for one particular tesla turbine, If you change one variable like the nossle mabi a higher efficiency is gotten. You can tell what efficiency YOU did get with it. People will still buy it, because they can change perameters. Am I wrong?
So cool!
With your nozzle design you are working on volume, is volume better than pressure (do you class this as a low speed torque turbine) if you were converting some of the volume to pressure by using a slot nozzle you would be getting more speed?
Correct. Nozzle design is something customers (and we may play with). In fact I have a prototype slot nozzle in the pipeline. Really depends on what fluid, volume and pressures you are working with. In theory a nozzle producing a high pressure, fast flow should produce better results. At least for many applications.
What would be approximate Watt output and possible uses in suppling power to a small home or other uses?
Can’t wait to see it in action! Nice work!
We have been running the inital tests and doing pressure tests. Will be working on a video next week.
Look at the possibility of running this on cold steam... under an only moderate vaccum, water will boil at temps that are safe (below 150°F). Just need hotter at the evaporator source and a cooler than boiling point condenser... check out Jeremiah's project with cold steam and tesla turbines. Channel is his name... search that and cold steam and you should have it.
Since it operates at low temps on the high side (evaporator), and under a vaccum, there is no explosion or scalding hazard, and the turbine operates on the water vapor under totally achievable levels of vaccum. When water vapor travels in a heat pipe, it can reach supersonic velocity, and the tech takes advantage of the vaccum, to leverage the ~1600x expansin of water, to allow efficient extraction of energy, with minimal temperature differentials, easily achievable with non concentrating solar thermal collecor panels. (Like the evacuated tube collectors that use heat pipes to transfer the heat efficiently to the tank above them)
Hope this comment inspires you.
Thank you very much this information. I have thought about this before. At the moment I'm concentrating on efficiency of the turbine and general testing. The turbine is very adaptable and any performance increases I can wring out will be usable with just about any application/medium. I have a few focus areas where I'm aiming to make improvements.
@@gyroscopes Would you be willing to sell one of these turbines and if so how much?
@@Orangepilldispencer We have a batch of 50 that we are making. They will be on sale via gyroscope.com
@@gyroscopes Hey man, in case you are still doing this. I love doing research and can have quite a "birds eye view" over certain things.
1. The best way to use this invention, is to actually have it on the SAME axis as a "Vacuum pump."
The difference between them also, is that the turbine has the more "tear drop" shaped holes, whereas the (vacuum) pump has more taper-shaped holes \ /.
So you place them on the same axis. Separated, with a round hole in the middle. The idea is that the steam spins the turbine, which in turn spins the pumps on both side, which essentially "toss the air outwards" creating a suction. This creates a vacuum which spins the turbine faster, then vacuum pump on both sides spin faster, etc.
2. For an even better efficiency, the ball-bearings on both sides can be replaced with an air-bearing. Since there is a pump on both sides of the axle, it can be configured to suck enough air, to keep the air-bearing going. Which produces a frictionless spin.
3. The inlets actually need to be on the opposite ends, 180 degrees to each other.
4. To balance the axis, with turbine and vacuum pumps and air/ball bearings on both ends, you can use Tesla's "Dynamic Balancing Machine."
With all these things together, I am sure that anybody can product cheap and clean electricity from their house. We just need the mathematics for it.
Beautifully machined and thought out
The Mk4 design was 95% finished about 2 years ago. One part bothered me and I kept putting off finishing and working on other projects. Then a company had a special project for it, it forced me to finish the last bit of the design. It was the nozzle that was troubling me. I wanted to keep the seals to minimum, while keeping with a budget and not compromising the design. It was a tricky part to make but everybody that sees thinks it is a really nice tactile and lovely looking.
take my MONEY!!!
Not long now.
wrong on so many levels it's laughable
Example?
tiny exhaust lol, you have no clue what you're doing
@@musiconly7447 the inlet is 1/2 pipe, the outlet is 1 1/2 pipe. Do you think the outlet should be larger, maybe 2 inch pipe?
@@northernmetalworker it's in the patents. you have to account for flow rate and designed rpm. what you have now is too small from an eye test. start at the patent work from there. otherwise you'll have a low efficiency turbine. i'm scared to know what your discs look like
@@musiconly7447 they don't look like anything, I've never built a turbine.
What are the turbine blade made out of?
Stainless steel
@@gyroscopes Is there an advantage of stainless steel over carbon fiber? Other than cost
@@xxxBradTxxx yes. A decade ago I did tests with lots of materials. You need something rigid. If you light weight disks they spin up quickly but otherwise there is no performance advantage.
Stainless steel is used so that steam and high temperature gasses can be used.