This is exactly the plan! Will continue working on the longer guides but I can do a video like these shorter ones in like an hour! Basically want to put one of these shorter ones out every weekend that I didn't finish a long guide with the plan being to basically break down the most vital info from the long guides into shorter tips to accompany them!
Learned some very valuable information from this video and saw the "no perks since 2020" at the end and had to go back to double check that the chases were all done perkless. You're an absolute madman and killers should be terrified
Its not bad at all on survivor! Especially when you know where all the strong tiles are at! I never feel disadvantaged on survivor in base kit, but there are whole killers that feel awful to play as in base kit 😂
@@Mr_TatorHeadtrapper and Myers feel absolutely horrendous without any perks. Spend half the game setting up, commit to 1 chase, 4 gens are already done. By the time the chase is over the exit gates are already opened lmao
I may or may not have been guilty of putting my faith in the heart of the entity on one too many occasions, only to end up getting left running the palletless shelves 😅
@@cblocc5988 My guy, run the loop yourself in game instead of just imagining how it plays out. Ofc you're not gonna outun a highly mobile killer but you can run an alternate path and threaten a crouch tech if it's blight or billy. Any M1 killer is easily stuffed, especially because the pallet links to vault drop down that you can link to meat freezer. I try to un-genblock the nearby door as second priority. I've run the loop multiple times myself and probably even have a VoD or two lying around of me doing it and getting 2-3 loops before pallet drop.
Appreciate the love mate love you too! And I got WAY too many videos to make before even remotely slowing down! Even once theres a full map guide for every map can start doing how to loop any killer and might actually have examples of whichever killer guide is being made on every single map!
I haven't been able to go through all the guides yet and couldn't even fully absorb everything in the ones I've seen, but they are just packed full of helpful stuff like this and have helped me a ton when I swapped to solo queue survivor to start grinding that side of the game. I got use of the greeding tip of just pausing for a brief moment at a pallet to make it look like you're dropping and got so many extra loops on so many simple tiles, and it's so hilarious when there's a swing or they go the other way but I've already moved on from greeding.
Greeding pallets is the most fun thing in all of dbd! If it didn't work I'd be a killer main 😂It just always feels kinda scandalous not using a resource, but still getting the full value of that resource right in front of the opposing player! Nothing really like it in any other games I've played!
The billy was great! Funny little story but one of the survivors that had died was salty in chat blaming me having no perks for them dying and then that chase happened 😂 and hell yeah! That's the most interesting loop on Gideon!
@@Mr_TatorHead seriously, I had red stain on my back and greeded into another full loop. Granted that is the killers poor reaction time letting me do that but still absolutely hilarious. Such a fun loop.
@@gloob4742 The killer also has to hug the left side tightly if they drop down! I f they don't they nick the van on the right side and get pushed back to the left a bit but their hitbox is slightly bigger than survivors are so its trickier for them!
Your videos are amazing! The RPD one made me a big fan, my most hated map became the best map. The transitions and loops are just too good that even with 4 escapes the killer commented “those were some good chase”
Thanks mate! I truly appreciate it! Glad they're helping you have more fun! That's the most important thing! Rpd is always hilarious from the niche pallet to the escalators to trying to get a "home run" by greeding the desk to the long pallet to the side room back the the desk without throwing a pallet! A true home run around the bases! 😂
This is EXACTLY what I love to read! Makes me want to get more out asap! Am currently working on the Ormond full guide, but probably going to put a short video on the saloon main loop (first loop any survivor should learn) then a follow-up video on that door of opportunity there and why killers shouldn't open it! Basically do a short tip video every week that I don't finish a longer complete guide! But Once the longer guides are done I could basically do a shorter tip video like per day! These shorter ones take like no time to make!
Came from Otz’s video you’re awesome I always knew how to run this loop but the problem is I basically NEVER used it outside of endgame but this video convinced me to play it
i like both your long guides and the shorter tips. the long ones have been a such a huge help, i have been going one at time throught the month, can't remember it all at once haha
Glad these are helping!!! I can make these shorter ones at basically a moments notice so I can always keep putting these out while working on the longer guides!
@@Mr_TatorHead No offense, but should've probably looked at this guy's channel before liking his comment. Wouldn't wanna associate with a toxic cheater like that.
@@shiftposter9046 I appreciate you looking out for me mate! I try to treat everyone the same or at least respectfully as long as they are treating me respectfully!
No problem! I have TONS more on the way! Looping is as simple as running in the right circles and stopping at the right spots! Literally anyone can do anything I ever do!
Absolutely will! I don't have as much time to edit the larger guides during summer, so I want to do these, but once summer is over I will be in a rhythm for both! The goal is to be able to alternate between short and long guides for every other week! Or at least short video then long guide!
@@Mr_TatorHead im SO looking forward to it. ive been playing since 2016 but barely kept up with the new stuff so your videos definitely help me get back to being good again. keep it up
Thanks mate! Looping is super simple and shouldn't take anywhere near as long as it currently takes all of us to learn! Trying to cut that time down majorly!
Just started watching your guides today and already got the chance to try out the loops you've taught me, thanks man you are really good at showing and explaining loops, keep doing what you're doing!
This is great to hear! I wish I had something for every map for ya but that is the plan and will eventually! And thanks for the kind words mate I appreciate them!
I like the bathroom loop on Midwhich, not nearly as technical but satisfying when you get the killer to chase you as you're coming out. If they break the pallet on the wrong side it's an easy hit or down.
Thanks mate! Want to put out more of these while still working on the long guides so that these can kinda break the longer guides down into easier to digest vids while still having the long ones for reference!
@@Mr_TatorHead The way i play wesker vs this pallet is I just jump down, you go to the pallet, i press my ability, vault over. When i play trapper, i always put a trap on that pallet or i put it just as you fall.
This tile is a LOT of fun! Honestly all the tiles that have those stepdowns where you don't stagger a loads of fun to game! Thanks for the kind words mate!
These are amazing Mr Tatorhead! I love both the long and short videos! But these are easier to digest! Keep them coming!! Amazing work! Gonna try the saloon map loop next time!
Thanks for the kind words mate! This is the plan! To keep making the long ones, but I can literally make these ones in like an hour! Gonna do a few of these then a big one and keep that cycle going!
Thanks mate! I've got TONS more on the way! I've been working on full map guides that go over every tile and now that I've got about half of those done I can do single loop guides and have those ones to reference with more examples! Once all the full map guides are done I could do like 1 of these a daily basically! I've got all the ones I have done here in this playlist! It's like 20 of the full guides, and only like 5 of the shorter ones since I just started these! Heres the playlist! - ruclips.net/p/PLSeVwJ5gS6empWO8-7mw0u6JZGxfBHnTL
No problem! It spawns on one side or the other since it's an entrance tile! If you see the entrance with the 2 white vans it would be directly across the map from you at the other entrance! It's a guaranteed tile!
Yes ! I love this tile and the best thing about it is no one ever seems to use it so it's always there when I am being chased on this map, I can't remember ever being chased on meat plant and being like oh shit this pallet is gone.
He was SO KIND for that! Just a straight up shoutout! I'm beyond appreciative! Got LOTS more vids on the way too! Looping is as simple as running in the right circles and stopping at the right spots! Literally anyone can do loop well!
@Mr_TatorHead it's not only about the loops and tails nah it's all about the enthusiasm and the good spirit that you brought to these videos as well, and otz is just being otz he always there for the community.
Thanks mate! Tryna get a few shorter tip videos out while working on the newer long guides! These videos take like 30 seconds to make can totally make tons of these!
I just finished your 7 hour looping with no perks video and have thoroughly enjoyed every moment watching you and laughing soo insanely hard until I had tears when killers couldn' hit you forever!!! 🤣. I'm soo glad I found your channel and am going to watch as much of your content as I possibly can. Dbd University with Mr. Tator!! 🧑🎓🏃🧟♂️
That's awesome to hear! I get worried about the obnoxiouness of the clips when it comes to the longer looping guides and that they might distract from the learning but this game is so damn fun/hilarious! Def don't want to be in study mode while playing but learning can happen even if study mode isn't active! That 7 hour vid is pretty old too so there are definitely WAY more ways to loop stuff since that video was posted though! And now the full guides are basically 7 hours long anyway 😂 I truly appreciate the kind words mate! Got TONS more vids on the way!
The duration of each segment is perfect and definitely love that you take your time to be thorough with your guides, you're such a great teacher and i've personally improved in my chases after watching you!! 😁 That is very true you can learn a lot even while not in study mode and I greatly appreciate you sharing your superior map knowledge with us all, helping the community improve as survivors! 😤🙌. I definitely want to know all the alternative ways to loop tiles/buildings as you can approach some of them in many directions 🏃♂️. I'm looking forward to all of your future content and you are too awesome Tator!!! Much love my brotha 😎👊🫶
I love these videos as I totally use loops wrong, I just wish there was a second person playing as killer to demonstrate when it’s like “if the killer pushes you this way” it’d definitely make more sense and help sink in for me if I could see how exactly that looks
Someone Suggested I use a flashlight for future videos and that is a great idea! I already had todays vid ready, so I'm late on that one but I will try to remember next week! I am usually the killer sitting afk on the switch while I run my yap on survivor on pc! but before I had it on the switch, my friend YaboiMLT sat afk for me while I ran my yap!
Thanks mate I appreciate it! There are so much random little things in the game like that that I am also still finding out as well and I have like 8.5k 😂
All survivor players who can’t loop should seriously watch your shorter videos not just to learn every tile but also to learn the basics and even the best way to loop and save as many pallets as possible
@@Mr_TatorHead no thank you! Thanks to your video I’ve had 5 escapes in a row on Dead Dog Saloon. I would love a guide on how to loop Iron works or misery one day! Keep up the amazing work
@@HambinoRanx Love to hear you're havin some fun! It's always happy hour inside dead dawgs saloon! (and out back 😂) Actually have Ironworks done already! Heres that guide! - ruclips.net/video/tfVqX8OSVjU/видео.html Heres the playlist with all the guides just in case! - ruclips.net/p/PLSeVwJ5gS6empWO8-7mw0u6JZGxfBHnTL
Absolutely great video, definitely earned a sub. You should flick by a bit more in your chases though, it would’ve prevented some of the killers mindgames
Thanks mate! I appreciate the kind words! It's always an uphill battle with that one! Still getting caught not looking back when I'm thinking it's 50/50 even if I path as efficiently as possible that I make a pallet, and get stressed that the loss of any distance whatsoever would cause it to go from a 50/50 to straight up getting hit. There are definitely times still, even after 8500 hours, where I knew I was going to get hit for sure, only to get hit by the most bizarre of mind games, when I wouldn't have made the window anyway, like freezer where the pathing is a bit intricate without sacrificing any efficiency, while looking behind and hitting that angled running vault!
I actually haven't gotten the Chris Martin comparison yet! i like these ones! I've gotten Ewen McGregor as well and I'm like can I get to use the force now? 😂
I could actually make any video currently! I really want to make these shorter vids on maps I had already made a full guide for, so that it could be referenced for more examples if needed! That one is a relatively newer map, and although I do have more than enough clips to make that guide, I have much more examples on other maps and should do those first! I plan on having a full guide for every map in the game by the anniversary next year! Or at least close! After that I could literally make like 5 of these a week since I wouldn't have to spend so much time on the larger ones! Admittedly I am not getting too much editing done during the nba playoffs since I been watching those 😂 Also, RIGHT!!!! IT SUCKS when someone chucks one of those 2 pallets at 5 gens no hooks!!!
In the example part, that Clown was console and fairly new to him. He started off good by dropping a yellow bottle, but it was all dowhill from there. This player doesn't know if you hit the ceiling, the pink cloud falls down. This makes it so you don't have to be so accurate on throws. If he does that, the start of the chase becomes a bit easier for him. Instead he's trying to aim the pink bottles the whole time, wasting a ton of bottles in the process. He missed, A LOT, which is why I'm guessing he's console. He missed a few times before even getting to that point. I always had a feeling about this tile, which is why I aim to get rid of it as quickly as possible. I think a big reason as to why this loop isn't played right most of the time is because the surrounding tiles usually don't have pallets at this point, so even if you run this well, you're not getting anywhere afterward. Most people just say "fuck it we drop" instantly because the pallets have been used everywhere else, people would rather play extremely safe on Gideon for whatever reason. The amount of times I play on this map and chase someone for a minute straight, eating pallet after pallet, it just sets up for a very easy EGC because people's way too safe mindset on this map.
Yeah he was not playing optimally...needs to read the 72 page clown guide! 😂 In all seriousness the pvp aspect of dbd is just capitalizing on mistakes of the other side! If people don't try to mind game at all, but also don't make any mistakes, it can still be VERY effective! But the shorter chases for killer, and longer chases for survivor aren't possible without taking some risks trying some mind games, that may backfire and make the shorter/longer chases possible in the first place! And your right and it's crazy! With no surrounding tiles you would think not cornering yourself by running right at it to chuck it would be the instinctive play, but instead its just to run at pallet and throw! That's the problem with dbd, it's not complicated to think about it or do, but for some reason so many of us run by this (and many other) tiles without thinking twice about it! Probably because it's video games and we use it as an outlet so we don't want to think that hard and just play 😂
I appreciate it mate! That's the good thing about dbd as well is you can not play it for a while then come back and greed some pallets! Its not like going back to a sweaty fps thats gonna take you a month to get your aim back 😂
Will be getting to them all eventually! Hawkins is also one of my favorite maps for survivor! The upstairs room is one of my favorite tiles in the entire game!
It's fun having a god pallet that actually has some skill expression! Nothing more boring than a pallet that can't be played any other way but run up to and drop 😂
Seems like it! Throwing the pallet at that point pay have been a good play too since it would have broke and they wouldn't have been able to m1 yet, and holding w to the square segment to the right may have also been a play! Making mistakes is the best way to learn as long as ya learn from them!
He held just a bit too hard to the right side and nicked the edge of the van and it pushed him to the left a bit! It's a bit tricky for killer since their hitbox is bigger than survivors is but survivors can do the same thing! You can avoid this by hugging left as you drop down the half-step!
Good killers would’ve downed you (for example, if the clown used his bottles correctly). You should practice looking backwards in chase! Nice video, very informative!
Thanks mate! The clown seemed newer to the tile, and admittedly was an older clip, but I don't throw pallets much and that was one of the more recent pallet throws on this tile. The other 2 weren't playing the tile bad but were losing 50/50s (like the juke at the stepdown v billy, and the slipstream anticipating the pallet throw from the singularity). Looking behind as often as possible is always going to be an ongoing battle! I still tend to get caught not looking behind when I think the most efficient pathing is possible or its a guaranteed hit! Got lucky that the clown anticipated the pallet throw, but in that case I wasn't sure I would have made the pallet even if the clown had dropped down! and because of that it should have gotten me down! But that instance was another case of "better to be lucky than good" 😂
okay, HOW did the singularity take so long??? the killer can literaly teleport towards people... and overclock mode makes you basically invincible to pallets
I think he was trying to get the pallet to break with the teleport! He kept teleporting as I was passing through the pallet thinking it would break, but in tiles like this where there is something bigger that you can loop next to the pallet you can just loop around that and make it back to the pallet as overclock is ending or after it has ended! They did misplay it though!
Been watching your videos lately i been playing 4yr im more so the stealthy an gen rush type not really the run out in the open an loop type but i watched this loop an the video u made on all loops on this map bruh i looped this area dropped pallet made it to freezer did the freezer loop an jus kept running to different loop areas backing the killer off😂😂😂😂thanks for the tips kuz im not a looper so its tryin something new to me shit was funny🤣your videos funny also some moments made me laugh at the killer but definitely helped on new things for me💯
Sounds like you are a looper mate! All you gotta do is run in the right circles and stop in the right spots and it never gets old! That shit is hilarious! I'm glad these are helping you have more fun that its literally the goal of making these! Happy looping mate!
I purchased the game while it was on sale for the nintendo switch and sit in a corner afk on that while I run my yap on PC as survivor! I used to have a friend YaboiMLT hanging out while I rand my yap, but since I have it on the switch now, I don't need him to do me that specific favor anymore! I am forever grateful to him for doing that for me! I wish there was an easier way though mate! :(
I need to get better with movement. Yours is so clean while mine means I rarely get more than two loops out of anything. Doesn't help that my frames are in the dumpster, but still, finding how to move more cleanly is HARD
Practice it everywhere you are going in the game! If you are pathing towards a gen, be hugging the wall the whole time and cut the corners as close as possible every time you ever round one! Same with unhooks when you are running towards the hook!
Was hilarious timing too! Someone that had gotten eliminated in that match was in chat complaining that they got eliminated because I was running no perks and how I couldn't possibly do anything useful without any perks...then that chase happened and the killer let us go 😂
Yeah the pallet throw would definitely be necessary on this one! then they could just park whichever one they were at and use the other one to corner you and its gg 😂
As a killer who actually likes Gideon, that pallet is pretty annoying if the survs know how to run it. Then again, it's just another example of how the meat plant is ONLY god pallets (with like 2 exceptions). The best way to counter this one in particular is not to even humor it, and make the survs waste their time trying to flee to it for safety, when you're already going after one of their out positioned teammates. It's usually not around a gen, so survs spend more time trying to get to it than is worth it if you don't go after them.
Yeah Gideon is either no fun on killer, or the killer is basically op! It's the only map offering from killers that makes me raise my guard since killers like Legion, Plague, Nemesis, Doctor, Knight, and especially Nurse are insanely strong on it! But almost all the other killers are at risk of getting no hooks if subjected to predrops paired with gen efficiency! The good news is theres like 5 windows on the whole map and one of them is pretty useless at the double van entrance! So most of the resources can be removed!...it just takes all game to do all the pallet kicking 😂
On this map for sure! But even then, the killers that are strong at this map would basically be undefeatable on it! Killer just kind of feels like that in general though! Every killer feels like there are a few maps the killer feels borderline OP on, and every other map is an eyes roll on a scale of 1-10 😂
Works the same way! Unless they have their power but if they have their power theres not many good loops on this map against her except freezer. This is probably plagues best map especially with certain builds
@@Mr_TatorHead Haha yea fair, was mostly messing because of how disgusting plagues power is. Crazy respect for playing without no perks, you are an absolute legend.
@@ToadMagic blood favor with plague on that map particularly can be dangerous! And trust me its nothing! Literally anyone can do anything I can ever do! Especially when I play terrible 😂
It still works pretty decent tbh! The distance around the van the first time seems to fit, then if they teleport at the pallet thinking you will throw, the distance to the next tile right in front of you seems to fit right for that teleport distance! Although you could always not have a pallet at that connecting tile 😂
I honestly think it's better for you and for your watchers to make shorter videos for the single tiles and make playlists for each map. Helps you get more reach, views and maybe money. And then for your watchers it's definitely easier to remember one video a day about one loop they do instead of watching 6 hours. It's about the mentality mostly too. Most would not watch multiple hour long videos about every single loop. If you still wanna keep it maybe make the whole map shorter like only show how to loop every loop by running it. But the details for ever single loop are in the separate videos. That would again help your channel grow more because the more videos you produce the more you will be shown to others.
At least that has been my experience with your videos. I mostly avoided your hour long videos but watch those shorter ones because your brain tells you "I got time for this only 10 minutes"
This is exactly the plan! I want to break down all the longer guides into single tip shorter videos! I do want to get more of the longer guides done as well since they can tell a fuller story, but aint nobody got time for watching that! The plan is to make shorter versions of map guides I have already done, so that the tips will be very minimal and easy to digest, but to answer the whole "well it works against wraith sure, but what to you do against huntress?" questions! That way when the inevitable "This doesn't work consistently, you only showed 2 examples of it working" comment shows up, I can already have a longer more in depth guide to go be like "go watch the 6 hour video for the full story, theres 20 more examples of it working there". But these shorter ones are SUPER easy to make! I am aiming to make about 1 per week while still working on the longer guides, and when I am done with the longer ones, I could literally make a daily tip video! This particular video literally only took me 20 minutes to make 😂
@@Mr_TatorHead I hope you get the attention and growth with this strategy because it would be really sad losing a gem like you who explains everything so detailed. I only found out about you because someone on Reddit mentioned you haha but you make very valuable videos keep up the work I and probably many others appreciate it 🙏🙏🙏
Just playing on the normal dimensions! I am playing on an ultrawide screen, but because dbd does not support proper ultrawide dimensions, I just play standard and have black bars irl on the left and right!
That Singularity should not have respected that pallet at all. Trying to break it with power in this situation is just as greedy as a survivor not throwing it. Take the stun and shoot imo. I don’t think a survivor makes cover in time on this tile.
It's easier said than done! I'm always telling myself not to respect pallets as killer, but SO many survivors just throw every pallet, that I get used to profiting off of the respect. Then suddenly there is the one survivor that greeds and I lose the game over it! I personally think he was trying to have me cornered with the pallet broken, because if he didn't have me cornered with the pallet broken, I could have made it to another tile! Even when I went down I could have made it to the pallet in the next room with the positioning! I think he was trying to avoid that! Luckily for him I was an idiot and tunnel visioned on trying to greed that pallet again 😂
@Mr_TatorHead won't lie. I like the guides. I've watched a couple of videos now, and we run some tiles similar. Keep up the hard work man maybe my solo que teammates will fine these instead of insta dropping the pallets
Using dbd on the switch as killer! Before dbd on the switch went on sale I had my friend YaboiMLT staying in the lobby! I still credit him and will continue to credit him going forward for the full on juicing guides even though I can do it solo now! I just owe him a ton for doing that for me!
this loop is so easy to counter most of the killer , it is not gonna help u much , there are way better loops in gideon . In example artist corner u there , trickster will kill u instantly with bouncing knives , twins also send victor and hit u there, trapper will set trap to force u one way , wesker will get u no time cuz the ways are lined, huntress will force u to drop down pallet and hit u (this one a bit harder ) , freddy put dream traps and catch u easily at least hit u once and u drop the pallet . But just fir the m1 killers u might get something from this loop , expext that it is not even good
That's the funny thing about Gideon! For most killers it's one of the most obnoxious maps in the game, and for a very few killers the map is borderline op! Artist doesn't really specialize at Gideon or anything, but artist is just in general one of the strongest killers in the game if played right!
@@Mr_TatorHead yea multiple floors hurt her. she’s my 2nd main nd play her at a high lvl like some people forget her crows can travel up and down stairs if placed right. Strong killer but complex for most hence why we don’t really see her.
If you were trying to avoid getting stalked, looping no tile is a good idea as the best idea in that scenario would be to break line of sight and hold w. But just for the fuck of it lets say you did run to this tile anyway. You'd still be able to break line of sight by getting around the van, which would force him to take the half step down and let you get to the next tile in the next room (usually a worse tile with little to no way to break line of sight), or he would push you around the other way, which would both allow you to throw the pallet and escape to the next room , or just escape to the next room without even using it. Either way it would force him to walk all the way around the van, which would feed into this strategy. Plus, even if myers did get unlimited tier 3, that is far from throwing the game. Myers is a basic m1 killer even with tier 3, so there is no reason to panic or loop any differently just because you are exposed. You would loop a perma tier 3 myers the exact same way you would legion, or even plague if they don't have their power.
And its so mechanically easy that it shouldn't take the 4k hours that seems to be recommended to play at a comp level! With how simple looping really is, all it should take is like 500 - 1k hours to be able to loop at a comp level I think!
@@Mr_TatorHead you can waste tens of thousands of hours in any game or activity without understanding the fundamentals, ive seen many people in dbd that get downed without questioning themselfs what they could've done better/ different. so it's a good thing to show them what alternatives there are, that's why i like to watch comp, the wow effect after seeing things you're doing wrong the whole time, have a good one
@@QQysosrs Exactly! I had a few thousand hours of passing STRONG setups and never thinking twice about it! Suddenly started noticing a lot of them and how they went over my head all the time! Always just blamed it on mistiming dead hard and stuff like that when I'd go down! But almost every time you get downed, there is something to be learned there! There are also killers where you did what you wanted to and they just straight up outplayed you too! Best to tip the cap in those scenarios 😂 And you too mate!
PLEASE for the love of god people dont use this pallet early in the matc ive been in so many end game situations while the exit door pallet is absolutely necessary
The other pallet is the good one for end game! This pallet you gotta go out of your way in terms of efficient pathing, and give the killer a chance to actually down you! To be able to use this pallet in end game (while not talking about pallet saves), you need both a teammate there, on time, to bodyblock the dropdown, as well as be coming from the correct direction! It can be useful coming from the room from the left, but there are only a handful of killers that that would be useful against! The other entrance however has a great pallet for end game! but its pretty useless throughout the rest of the match since you would have yourself pinned inbetween 2 very easily mindgamable vans, but in the end game you would be running straight at the door, which is exactly when that pallet would be useful!
@@Mr_TatorHead theyre both extremely useful regardless in end game and it can often times be the difference between 4 man out and 3 man out(etc), and most of the time in end game your teammates are playing altruistically so youll usually have that help theres plenty of pallets on the map to use mid match, but i mean if youre on a swf with good comms and everyones competent then it dont really matter
Survivor is really fun and I don't really ever feel disadvantaged without perks on it! Once all the maps were figured out it really just comes down to a lot of 50/50s and anyone can do any of that! Killer I feel disadvantaged a lot 😂
@Mr_TatorHead Personally I'm more of a killer main myself. Used to be more 50/50 but I honestly find killer a lot less frustrating than solo queue. Might have to use your guides to hop back into survivor; I can't let my boi Ace rot in obscurity!
Funniest part about this chase, was one of the survivors that had died was salty in chat trash talking about how I threw the game because I had no perks and how I was the reason they died somehow...then this chase happened and the billy let me go while they were yelling at me 😂 I cut the part out of the video but right as we escaped, definitely turned to them like "sorry I'm so useless without any perks mate" 😂
I love this video and your analysis but my one advice is to be more specific with the scenarios and locations you are describing " if the killer pushes us here or he goes there" its unclear where exactly "here" or "there" is to the viewer. its hard to visualize a lot what you are seeing. you could fix this by making on screen drawings or simply just have a killer in the customer game with you to simulate what you are talking about.
Thanks for the kind words and suggestions mate! This is def something I gotta look into! I'd prob have to start little bits at a time since the killer is me on my switch and I'm not the best editor, but little steps are always the way to improve!
I really like these shorter videos that focus on single tiles or loops, they are easier to digest than a 6 hour guide.
This is exactly the plan! Will continue working on the longer guides but I can do a video like these shorter ones in like an hour! Basically want to put one of these shorter ones out every weekend that I didn't finish a long guide with the plan being to basically break down the most vital info from the long guides into shorter tips to accompany them!
@@Mr_TatorHead What would help a lot with getting channel traffic is shorts on these kind of loops. First hit is free kinda vids.
@@djsvrlaivwfofj Been thinking about doing more shorts! I haven't really visited the clips department much just the highlight department 😂
SHORTer videos?? you kidding right? 10 minutes to talk about a single fokeing pallet that literally an ape can come to without ANY videos?
Remember that a great portion of the 6 hours are examples, you can see one or two and then jump to the next loop.
My looping bible fr 🙏
One day it will be! Once all the entities work is done 😂
@@Mr_TatorHead amen
Learned some very valuable information from this video and saw the "no perks since 2020" at the end and had to go back to double check that the chases were all done perkless. You're an absolute madman and killers should be terrified
Its not bad at all on survivor! Especially when you know where all the strong tiles are at! I never feel disadvantaged on survivor in base kit, but there are whole killers that feel awful to play as in base kit 😂
@@Mr_TatorHeadtrapper and Myers feel absolutely horrendous without any perks. Spend half the game setting up, commit to 1 chase, 4 gens are already done. By the time the chase is over the exit gates are already opened lmao
Ever since I learned this loop from your guides it's been one of my favourites and I always look for it on Gideon.
The funniest situation to be in is when you don't know which side its on and running straight into it hoping its there 😂
I may or may not have been guilty of putting my faith in the heart of the entity on one too many occasions, only to end up getting left running the palletless shelves 😅
@@Sythine Tis the non windows of opportunity life 😂
only person u are looping there is in your anime fantasy dreams stop been fake and maybe u would not of got bullied all ur life
@@cblocc5988
My guy, run the loop yourself in game instead of just imagining how it plays out.
Ofc you're not gonna outun a highly mobile killer but you can run an alternate path and threaten a crouch tech if it's blight or billy.
Any M1 killer is easily stuffed, especially because the pallet links to vault drop down that you can link to meat freezer. I try to un-genblock the nearby door as second priority.
I've run the loop multiple times myself and probably even have a VoD or two lying around of me doing it and getting 2-3 loops before pallet drop.
i love how excited you get when they respect it
It's so much fun! Survivors get to play make it-take it style of play in that if they win the 50/50 they get another chance!
i love you man, please dont stop making content, you’re the only reason i want to play DBD!!!
Appreciate the love mate love you too! And I got WAY too many videos to make before even remotely slowing down! Even once theres a full map guide for every map can start doing how to loop any killer and might actually have examples of whichever killer guide is being made on every single map!
I haven't been able to go through all the guides yet and couldn't even fully absorb everything in the ones I've seen, but they are just packed full of helpful stuff like this and have helped me a ton when I swapped to solo queue survivor to start grinding that side of the game. I got use of the greeding tip of just pausing for a brief moment at a pallet to make it look like you're dropping and got so many extra loops on so many simple tiles, and it's so hilarious when there's a swing or they go the other way but I've already moved on from greeding.
Greeding pallets is the most fun thing in all of dbd! If it didn't work I'd be a killer main 😂It just always feels kinda scandalous not using a resource, but still getting the full value of that resource right in front of the opposing player! Nothing really like it in any other games I've played!
Awww that billy was so cool!! Great guide, I had no clue this loop was actually strong!
The billy was great! Funny little story but one of the survivors that had died was salty in chat blaming me having no perks for them dying and then that chase happened 😂 and hell yeah! That's the most interesting loop on Gideon!
@@Mr_TatorHead Probably I was Billy :)
so glad otz talked about this on stream, your channel is so helpful
Otz is being SUPER kind to us! The first day he dropped by the stream I was literally like "is this the real Otzdarva?" 😂
Just got to use this in a live game for the first time today. Can confirm it goes nuts.
It's HILARIOUS when they respect the pallet and you end up getting more loops out of this even with a step down! 😂
@@Mr_TatorHead seriously, I had red stain on my back and greeded into another full loop. Granted that is the killers poor reaction time letting me do that but still absolutely hilarious. Such a fun loop.
@@gloob4742 The killer also has to hug the left side tightly if they drop down! I f they don't they nick the van on the right side and get pushed back to the left a bit but their hitbox is slightly bigger than survivors are so its trickier for them!
Your videos are amazing! The RPD one made me a big fan, my most hated map became the best map. The transitions and loops are just too good that even with 4 escapes the killer commented “those were some good chase”
Thanks mate! I truly appreciate it! Glad they're helping you have more fun! That's the most important thing! Rpd is always hilarious from the niche pallet to the escalators to trying to get a "home run" by greeding the desk to the long pallet to the side room back the the desk without throwing a pallet! A true home run around the bases! 😂
This video won me a chase on this tile as Unknown, knew EXACTLY how to cut them off and get the down. Awesome guides, can’t wait for more :D
This is EXACTLY what I love to read! Makes me want to get more out asap! Am currently working on the Ormond full guide, but probably going to put a short video on the saloon main loop (first loop any survivor should learn) then a follow-up video on that door of opportunity there and why killers shouldn't open it! Basically do a short tip video every week that I don't finish a longer complete guide! But Once the longer guides are done I could basically do a shorter tip video like per day! These shorter ones take like no time to make!
Came from Otz’s video you’re awesome
I always knew how to run this loop but the problem is I basically NEVER used it outside of endgame but this video convinced me to play it
I was super fortunate he did that! That was beyond kind of him! And go for it! Every time they reset it gets funnier!
i like both your long guides and the shorter tips. the long ones have been a such a huge help, i have been going one at time throught the month, can't remember it all at once haha
Glad these are helping!!! I can make these shorter ones at basically a moments notice so I can always keep putting these out while working on the longer guides!
This content is gold as usual. You're the only one who teaches this kind of stuff and it truly is hilarious watching you do it.
Thanks mate! I want everyone to have as much fun as I do and everyone can! It's very simple!
@@Mr_TatorHead No offense, but should've probably looked at this guy's channel before liking his comment. Wouldn't wanna associate with a toxic cheater like that.
@@shiftposter9046 I appreciate you looking out for me mate! I try to treat everyone the same or at least respectfully as long as they are treating me respectfully!
leave killers alone we have families
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Bruuuh 😂😂😂
Instructions unclear, Nurse teleported right next to me and now I am down :P
Yup! Nurse is the counterplay period! Going against Nurse on gideon in general is just a feels bad! Downstairs is the best bet!
these videos are SO HELPFUL! thank you!
No problem! I have TONS more on the way! Looping is as simple as running in the right circles and stopping at the right spots! Literally anyone can do anything I ever do!
i love these "mini" tutorials on single loops and stuff! please make more of them
Absolutely will! I don't have as much time to edit the larger guides during summer, so I want to do these, but once summer is over I will be in a rhythm for both! The goal is to be able to alternate between short and long guides for every other week! Or at least short video then long guide!
@@Mr_TatorHead im SO looking forward to it. ive been playing since 2016 but barely kept up with the new stuff so your videos definitely help me get back to being good again. keep it up
My brain is expanding thanks so much subbing cuz of this series
Thanks mate! Looping is super simple and shouldn't take anywhere near as long as it currently takes all of us to learn! Trying to cut that time down majorly!
Just started watching your guides today and already got the chance to try out the loops you've taught me, thanks man you are really good at showing and explaining loops, keep doing what you're doing!
This is great to hear! I wish I had something for every map for ya but that is the plan and will eventually! And thanks for the kind words mate I appreciate them!
I like the bathroom loop on Midwhich, not nearly as technical but satisfying when you get the killer to chase you as you're coming out. If they break the pallet on the wrong side it's an easy hit or down.
The drop down one with the hole and the pallet?
@@Mr_TatorHead that's right, I get a lot of killers to chase me through the wrong way(wrong for them) in that loop.
@@rabbidguarddog Damn! I haven't even tried looping that one in forever am so used to just the dropdown part!
_Otzdarva_ mentioned you on his video released: May 17, 2024. Timestamp 2:35 - *"Wake up babe, new Gesture dropped..." | Weekly Compilation*
I just heard! He had came by the live stream the other day and I wasn't even sure if it was the real otzdarva or not tbh!
That video is actually why I'm here lol
Been loving these shorter videos!
Thanks mate! Want to put out more of these while still working on the long guides so that these can kinda break the longer guides down into easier to digest vids while still having the long ones for reference!
@@Mr_TatorHead The way i play wesker vs this pallet is I just jump down, you go to the pallet, i press my ability, vault over. When i play trapper, i always put a trap on that pallet or i put it just as you fall.
This is so awesome I always thought we were miss using some pallets I will never see this pallet the same way again
Best part is that pallet is almost always there! People always be saving it for the end when it barely ever helps!
The best loop guide maker!
Super helpful, always wondered how to run this
This tile is a LOT of fun! Honestly all the tiles that have those stepdowns where you don't stagger a loads of fun to game! Thanks for the kind words mate!
I got a match on The Game not long after watching this guide and I immediately got way more value than usual out of this tile!
Thats GREAT! This tile is hilarious! Might as well have fun on it before the endgame!
These are amazing Mr Tatorhead! I love both the long and short videos! But these are easier to digest! Keep them coming!! Amazing work! Gonna try the saloon map loop next time!
Thanks for the kind words mate! This is the plan! To keep making the long ones, but I can literally make these ones in like an hour! Gonna do a few of these then a big one and keep that cycle going!
@@Mr_TatorHead sounds like a amazing plan
Super informative. Need more of this.
Thanks mate! I've got TONS more on the way! I've been working on full map guides that go over every tile and now that I've got about half of those done I can do single loop guides and have those ones to reference with more examples! Once all the full map guides are done I could do like 1 of these a daily basically!
I've got all the ones I have done here in this playlist! It's like 20 of the full guides, and only like 5 of the shorter ones since I just started these! Heres the playlist! - ruclips.net/p/PLSeVwJ5gS6empWO8-7mw0u6JZGxfBHnTL
Thanks man for the great looping videos!!! Found you from grave of Glendale his one is also great. Very interesting and I’m excited to try this now!
This is the most fun loop on Gideon imo! Ironically the strongest loop on Gideon pallet plant is actually a window! (The freezer)
Thanks for this godly tutorial. I'll be on the lookout for this tile.
No problem! It spawns on one side or the other since it's an entrance tile! If you see the entrance with the 2 white vans it would be directly across the map from you at the other entrance! It's a guaranteed tile!
Yes ! I love this tile and the best thing about it is no one ever seems to use it so it's always there when I am being chased on this map, I can't remember ever being chased on meat plant and being like oh shit this pallet is gone.
Had never thought about this but that's such a great point! That pallet literally is always there!
Loving these short tutorials!
Thanks mate! I have TONS more of these on the way! As well as other more full map guides!
Otz brought me here and it’s awesome
He was SO KIND for that! Just a straight up shoutout! I'm beyond appreciative! Got LOTS more vids on the way too! Looping is as simple as running in the right circles and stopping at the right spots! Literally anyone can do loop well!
@Mr_TatorHead it's not only about the loops and tails nah it's all about the enthusiasm and the good spirit that you brought to these videos as well, and otz is just being otz he always there for the community.
@@iaskelad I appreciate the super kind words mate! Anyone should be able to have this much fun! This game is hilarious!
bro these tutorials are fire af
Thanks mate! Got TONS more where that came from!
great content as always 👍
Thanks mate! Tryna get a few shorter tip videos out while working on the newer long guides! These videos take like 30 seconds to make can totally make tons of these!
I just finished your 7 hour looping with no perks video and have thoroughly enjoyed every moment watching you and laughing soo insanely hard until I had tears when killers couldn' hit you forever!!! 🤣. I'm soo glad I found your channel and am going to watch as much of your content as I possibly can. Dbd University with Mr. Tator!! 🧑🎓🏃🧟♂️
That's awesome to hear! I get worried about the obnoxiouness of the clips when it comes to the longer looping guides and that they might distract from the learning but this game is so damn fun/hilarious! Def don't want to be in study mode while playing but learning can happen even if study mode isn't active! That 7 hour vid is pretty old too so there are definitely WAY more ways to loop stuff since that video was posted though! And now the full guides are basically 7 hours long anyway 😂
I truly appreciate the kind words mate! Got TONS more vids on the way!
The duration of each segment is perfect and definitely love that you take your time to be thorough with your guides, you're such a great teacher and i've personally improved in my chases after watching you!! 😁 That is very true you can learn a lot even while not in study mode and I greatly appreciate you sharing your superior map knowledge with us all, helping the community improve as survivors! 😤🙌. I definitely want to know all the alternative ways to loop tiles/buildings as you can approach some of them in many directions 🏃♂️. I'm looking forward to all of your future content and you are too awesome Tator!!! Much love my brotha 😎👊🫶
This is one of my favorite dbd videos and i dont know why
That tile is hilarious! Hope you've been having some fun on it!
Yeah it's been Hilarious
I love these videos as I totally use loops wrong, I just wish there was a second person playing as killer to demonstrate when it’s like “if the killer pushes you this way” it’d definitely make more sense and help sink in for me if I could see how exactly that looks
Someone Suggested I use a flashlight for future videos and that is a great idea! I already had todays vid ready, so I'm late on that one but I will try to remember next week! I am usually the killer sitting afk on the switch while I run my yap on survivor on pc! but before I had it on the switch, my friend YaboiMLT sat afk for me while I ran my yap!
That billy a g fr
Right? Billy players are just gigachads anyways!
Thank you so much! These are so helpful.
No problem! Got half of the full map guides done and just barely starting these, but I will get them all done!
I have over 4k hours on survivor and I was running that tile wrong! Great video bro
Thanks mate I appreciate it! There are so much random little things in the game like that that I am also still finding out as well and I have like 8.5k 😂
Yo this video was so hype!!
Thanks mate! Hope it helps!
honey wake up! Mr TatorHead uploaded!
Hopefully it is going to be happening a LOT more regularly!
All survivor players who can’t loop should seriously watch your shorter videos not just to learn every tile but also to learn the basics and even the best way to loop and save as many pallets as possible
I would def not complain about that 😂
In all seriousness if most people knew the maps the game might be a lot easier to balance!
These videos made me sub. Keep up the great work
Thanks mate I appreciate it! Got TONS more on the way!
@@Mr_TatorHead no thank you! Thanks to your video I’ve had 5 escapes in a row on Dead Dog Saloon. I would love a guide on how to loop Iron works or misery one day! Keep up the amazing work
@@HambinoRanx Love to hear you're havin some fun! It's always happy hour inside dead dawgs saloon! (and out back 😂)
Actually have Ironworks done already! Heres that guide! - ruclips.net/video/tfVqX8OSVjU/видео.html
Heres the playlist with all the guides just in case! - ruclips.net/p/PLSeVwJ5gS6empWO8-7mw0u6JZGxfBHnTL
Absolutely great video, definitely earned a sub. You should flick by a bit more in your chases though, it would’ve prevented some of the killers mindgames
Thanks mate! I appreciate the kind words! It's always an uphill battle with that one! Still getting caught not looking back when I'm thinking it's 50/50 even if I path as efficiently as possible that I make a pallet, and get stressed that the loss of any distance whatsoever would cause it to go from a 50/50 to straight up getting hit. There are definitely times still, even after 8500 hours, where I knew I was going to get hit for sure, only to get hit by the most bizarre of mind games, when I wouldn't have made the window anyway, like freezer where the pathing is a bit intricate without sacrificing any efficiency, while looking behind and hitting that angled running vault!
Another banger!
Thanks mate! It's one of the most fun tiles in all of dbd!
With the beard: Mark Hamill. Without the beard: Chris Martin.
I actually haven't gotten the Chris Martin comparison yet! i like these ones! I've gotten Ewen McGregor as well and I'm like can I get to use the force now? 😂
amazing video thx !
No problem mate! Got TONS more on the way!
Can you make a video on the tiba landing main building? That's my favorite loop and I want people to stop wasting the god pallets on it
I could actually make any video currently! I really want to make these shorter vids on maps I had already made a full guide for, so that it could be referenced for more examples if needed! That one is a relatively newer map, and although I do have more than enough clips to make that guide, I have much more examples on other maps and should do those first! I plan on having a full guide for every map in the game by the anniversary next year! Or at least close! After that I could literally make like 5 of these a week since I wouldn't have to spend so much time on the larger ones! Admittedly I am not getting too much editing done during the nba playoffs since I been watching those 😂
Also, RIGHT!!!! IT SUCKS when someone chucks one of those 2 pallets at 5 gens no hooks!!!
The absolute goat.
I appreciate it mate! But anyone can do anything I can! Looping is easy!
More concise guides like this
Hell yeah! Trying to do about 1 per weekend! Will have more time to edit both more longer ones and shorter ones once summer is over!
In the example part, that Clown was console and fairly new to him. He started off good by dropping a yellow bottle, but it was all dowhill from there. This player doesn't know if you hit the ceiling, the pink cloud falls down. This makes it so you don't have to be so accurate on throws. If he does that, the start of the chase becomes a bit easier for him.
Instead he's trying to aim the pink bottles the whole time, wasting a ton of bottles in the process. He missed, A LOT, which is why I'm guessing he's console. He missed a few times before even getting to that point.
I always had a feeling about this tile, which is why I aim to get rid of it as quickly as possible. I think a big reason as to why this loop isn't played right most of the time is because the surrounding tiles usually don't have pallets at this point, so even if you run this well, you're not getting anywhere afterward. Most people just say "fuck it we drop" instantly because the pallets have been used everywhere else, people would rather play extremely safe on Gideon for whatever reason. The amount of times I play on this map and chase someone for a minute straight, eating pallet after pallet, it just sets up for a very easy EGC because people's way too safe mindset on this map.
Yeah he was not playing optimally...needs to read the 72 page clown guide! 😂
In all seriousness the pvp aspect of dbd is just capitalizing on mistakes of the other side! If people don't try to mind game at all, but also don't make any mistakes, it can still be VERY effective! But the shorter chases for killer, and longer chases for survivor aren't possible without taking some risks trying some mind games, that may backfire and make the shorter/longer chases possible in the first place!
And your right and it's crazy! With no surrounding tiles you would think not cornering yourself by running right at it to chuck it would be the instinctive play, but instead its just to run at pallet and throw! That's the problem with dbd, it's not complicated to think about it or do, but for some reason so many of us run by this (and many other) tiles without thinking twice about it! Probably because it's video games and we use it as an outlet so we don't want to think that hard and just play 😂
I dont play DBD anymore and probably never will again but damn if i dont still watch every Tator yt vid and catch every stream i can!
I appreciate it mate! That's the good thing about dbd as well is you can not play it for a while then come back and greed some pallets! Its not like going back to a sweaty fps thats gonna take you a month to get your aim back 😂
Amazing Video's Just PERFECT Earned A Sub Great Idea Awesome Execution Keep It Up!!!
Thanks mate! I appreciate it! I got TONS more like this on the way!
Can’t wait to see what you got planned
Clown had him dead to rights but played himself with a needless double back.
Yeah he fucked up on that one, then extra backed up to try to cut off routes to nearby tiles in recovery 😂
10:30 is the funniest shit from your laugh I dont even know why but your enthusiasm is so fuckin funny hahahahahah
This game is so much fun and never gets old! It's like playing cards like it's laid back and exciting and the same time!
I cant wait till you make one on Hawkins or New (New(New) Haddonfield!
Will be getting to them all eventually! Hawkins is also one of my favorite maps for survivor! The upstairs room is one of my favorite tiles in the entire game!
This is where I actually learned how to loop and killer leave me mid chase because they can’t hit me😂✌🏽
Good stuff! Killers be respecting god pallets harder than we ever expect them too 😂
this is evil (i will be doing this the next time im on this map)
It's fun having a god pallet that actually has some skill expression! Nothing more boring than a pallet that can't be played any other way but run up to and drop 😂
10:40 looks like they did the correct play and just followed instead of trying to mind game.
Seems like it! Throwing the pallet at that point pay have been a good play too since it would have broke and they wouldn't have been able to m1 yet, and holding w to the square segment to the right may have also been a play! Making mistakes is the best way to learn as long as ya learn from them!
Last night I Eat blue Chalk powder and had get stomach pumped again
well don't do that! Fruit and ginger shot best way to start the day!
@@Mr_TatorHead Chalk Blue Yummy yummy
Nice vid! Subscribed :)
Thanks mate! I appreciate it! I got a LOT more coming!
That is one of the tiles for sure before 7.5.2 i would do spacebilly midchase and get on top of that van. Survivors reaction was worthless😂.
Wish they never removed skybilly 😢 It was like superbouncing in halo 2 but without the camping with sniper
10:27 omh so short distance and he didnt hit u that moment onn your way to pallet...
He held just a bit too hard to the right side and nicked the edge of the van and it pushed him to the left a bit! It's a bit tricky for killer since their hitbox is bigger than survivors is but survivors can do the same thing! You can avoid this by hugging left as you drop down the half-step!
Good killers would’ve downed you (for example, if the clown used his bottles correctly). You should practice looking backwards in chase! Nice video, very informative!
Thanks mate!
The clown seemed newer to the tile, and admittedly was an older clip, but I don't throw pallets much and that was one of the more recent pallet throws on this tile. The other 2 weren't playing the tile bad but were losing 50/50s (like the juke at the stepdown v billy, and the slipstream anticipating the pallet throw from the singularity).
Looking behind as often as possible is always going to be an ongoing battle! I still tend to get caught not looking behind when I think the most efficient pathing is possible or its a guaranteed hit! Got lucky that the clown anticipated the pallet throw, but in that case I wasn't sure I would have made the pallet even if the clown had dropped down! and because of that it should have gotten me down! But that instance was another case of "better to be lucky than good" 😂
okay, HOW did the singularity take so long??? the killer can literaly teleport towards people... and overclock mode makes you basically invincible to pallets
I think he was trying to get the pallet to break with the teleport! He kept teleporting as I was passing through the pallet thinking it would break, but in tiles like this where there is something bigger that you can loop next to the pallet you can just loop around that and make it back to the pallet as overclock is ending or after it has ended! They did misplay it though!
Been watching your videos lately i been playing 4yr im more so the stealthy an gen rush type not really the run out in the open an loop type but i watched this loop an the video u made on all loops on this map bruh i looped this area dropped pallet made it to freezer did the freezer loop an jus kept running to different loop areas backing the killer off😂😂😂😂thanks for the tips kuz im not a looper so its tryin something new to me shit was funny🤣your videos funny also some moments made me laugh at the killer but definitely helped on new things for me💯
Sounds like you are a looper mate! All you gotta do is run in the right circles and stop in the right spots and it never gets old! That shit is hilarious! I'm glad these are helping you have more fun that its literally the goal of making these! Happy looping mate!
How do you get into this practice mode?
I purchased the game while it was on sale for the nintendo switch and sit in a corner afk on that while I run my yap on PC as survivor! I used to have a friend YaboiMLT hanging out while I rand my yap, but since I have it on the switch now, I don't need him to do me that specific favor anymore! I am forever grateful to him for doing that for me!
I wish there was an easier way though mate! :(
So have the switch as killer & you you on pc 😂
@@1kDomo unfortunately yes 😂
I need to get better with movement. Yours is so clean while mine means I rarely get more than two loops out of anything. Doesn't help that my frames are in the dumpster, but still, finding how to move more cleanly is HARD
Practice it everywhere you are going in the game! If you are pathing towards a gen, be hugging the wall the whole time and cut the corners as close as possible every time you ever round one! Same with unhooks when you are running towards the hook!
Oh no, another god loop on map full of god pallets
Right? This one stays available too since most people just save that pallet for the end!
I don't play Nick Cage, but does he say "shhhit" at 9:00?? 🤣
Roflmao!!! That Billy was like just gtfo.
Was hilarious timing too! Someone that had gotten eliminated in that match was in chat complaining that they got eliminated because I was running no perks and how I couldn't possibly do anything useful without any perks...then that chase happened and the killer let us go 😂
Definitely would be harder against the Twins with how cats victor is!
Yeah the pallet throw would definitely be necessary on this one! then they could just park whichever one they were at and use the other one to corner you and its gg 😂
As a killer who actually likes Gideon, that pallet is pretty annoying if the survs know how to run it. Then again, it's just another example of how the meat plant is ONLY god pallets (with like 2 exceptions). The best way to counter this one in particular is not to even humor it, and make the survs waste their time trying to flee to it for safety, when you're already going after one of their out positioned teammates. It's usually not around a gen, so survs spend more time trying to get to it than is worth it if you don't go after them.
Yeah Gideon is either no fun on killer, or the killer is basically op! It's the only map offering from killers that makes me raise my guard since killers like Legion, Plague, Nemesis, Doctor, Knight, and especially Nurse are insanely strong on it! But almost all the other killers are at risk of getting no hooks if subjected to predrops paired with gen efficiency!
The good news is theres like 5 windows on the whole map and one of them is pretty useless at the double van entrance! So most of the resources can be removed!...it just takes all game to do all the pallet kicking 😂
One word : Nurse
Tis the counter for everything! Especially swfs!
Seems to me after watching a handful of these videos that the pallet density on maps needs to be severely cut
On this map for sure! But even then, the killers that are strong at this map would basically be undefeatable on it! Killer just kind of feels like that in general though! Every killer feels like there are a few maps the killer feels borderline OP on, and every other map is an eyes roll on a scale of 1-10 😂
Plot twist.... Nurse is the killer.
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You are the reason why I respect absolutely zero good pallets. Get em out and go through it lol
Clockwise/counter clockwise > “this way”
have fun using this loop against my plague
Works the same way! Unless they have their power but if they have their power theres not many good loops on this map against her except freezer. This is probably plagues best map especially with certain builds
@@Mr_TatorHead Haha yea fair, was mostly messing because of how disgusting plagues power is. Crazy respect for playing without no perks, you are an absolute legend.
@@ToadMagic blood favor with plague on that map particularly can be dangerous! And trust me its nothing! Literally anyone can do anything I can ever do! Especially when I play terrible 😂
Now with singularity you would not make any of those loops
It still works pretty decent tbh! The distance around the van the first time seems to fit, then if they teleport at the pallet thinking you will throw, the distance to the next tile right in front of you seems to fit right for that teleport distance! Although you could always not have a pallet at that connecting tile 😂
I honestly think it's better for you and for your watchers to make shorter videos for the single tiles and make playlists for each map. Helps you get more reach, views and maybe money. And then for your watchers it's definitely easier to remember one video a day about one loop they do instead of watching 6 hours. It's about the mentality mostly too. Most would not watch multiple hour long videos about every single loop. If you still wanna keep it maybe make the whole map shorter like only show how to loop every loop by running it. But the details for ever single loop are in the separate videos. That would again help your channel grow more because the more videos you produce the more you will be shown to others.
At least that has been my experience with your videos. I mostly avoided your hour long videos but watch those shorter ones because your brain tells you "I got time for this only 10 minutes"
This is exactly the plan! I want to break down all the longer guides into single tip shorter videos! I do want to get more of the longer guides done as well since they can tell a fuller story, but aint nobody got time for watching that! The plan is to make shorter versions of map guides I have already done, so that the tips will be very minimal and easy to digest, but to answer the whole "well it works against wraith sure, but what to you do against huntress?" questions! That way when the inevitable "This doesn't work consistently, you only showed 2 examples of it working" comment shows up, I can already have a longer more in depth guide to go be like "go watch the 6 hour video for the full story, theres 20 more examples of it working there". But these shorter ones are SUPER easy to make! I am aiming to make about 1 per week while still working on the longer guides, and when I am done with the longer ones, I could literally make a daily tip video! This particular video literally only took me 20 minutes to make 😂
@@Mr_TatorHead I hope you get the attention and growth with this strategy because it would be really sad losing a gem like you who explains everything so detailed. I only found out about you because someone on Reddit mentioned you haha but you make very valuable videos keep up the work I and probably many others appreciate it 🙏🙏🙏
how do you have old streched res gng
Just playing on the normal dimensions! I am playing on an ultrawide screen, but because dbd does not support proper ultrawide dimensions, I just play standard and have black bars irl on the left and right!
That Singularity should not have respected that pallet at all. Trying to break it with power in this situation is just as greedy as a survivor not throwing it. Take the stun and shoot imo. I don’t think a survivor makes cover in time on this tile.
It's easier said than done! I'm always telling myself not to respect pallets as killer, but SO many survivors just throw every pallet, that I get used to profiting off of the respect. Then suddenly there is the one survivor that greeds and I lose the game over it! I personally think he was trying to have me cornered with the pallet broken, because if he didn't have me cornered with the pallet broken, I could have made it to another tile! Even when I went down I could have made it to the pallet in the next room with the positioning! I think he was trying to avoid that! Luckily for him I was an idiot and tunnel visioned on trying to greed that pallet again 😂
Plot twist the killers nurse
That's a HUGE feels bad on gideon meat plant 🤣
@Mr_TatorHead won't lie. I like the guides. I've watched a couple of videos now, and we run some tiles similar. Keep up the hard work man maybe my solo que teammates will fine these instead of insta dropping the pallets
@@ejlive1997 Thanks mate and that's the goal! If this stuff was more common knowledge the game literally might be easier to balance!
how are you in a custom solo? or are u just using a 2nd acc for the killer?
Using dbd on the switch as killer! Before dbd on the switch went on sale I had my friend YaboiMLT staying in the lobby! I still credit him and will continue to credit him going forward for the full on juicing guides even though I can do it solo now! I just owe him a ton for doing that for me!
@@Mr_TatorHead ah makes sense :D thanks!
@@Kofja No problem! Wish there was a simpler way 😂
this loop is so easy to counter most of the killer , it is not gonna help u much , there are way better loops in gideon . In example artist corner u there , trickster will kill u instantly with bouncing knives , twins also send victor and hit u there, trapper will set trap to force u one way , wesker will get u no time cuz the ways are lined, huntress will force u to drop down pallet and hit u (this one a bit harder ) , freddy put dream traps and catch u easily at least hit u once and u drop the pallet . But just fir the m1 killers u might get something from this loop , expext that it is not even good
This tile like most are only strong against M1 killers. As an artist player that area becomes unsafe.
That's the funny thing about Gideon! For most killers it's one of the most obnoxious maps in the game, and for a very few killers the map is borderline op! Artist doesn't really specialize at Gideon or anything, but artist is just in general one of the strongest killers in the game if played right!
@@Mr_TatorHead yea multiple floors hurt her. she’s my 2nd main nd play her at a high lvl like some people forget her crows
can travel up and down stairs if placed right. Strong killer but complex for most hence why we don’t really see her.
What about if ur going against a myers who is just using u for stalks and ur trapped. U basically threw the game and gave him free t3 or t4
If you were trying to avoid getting stalked, looping no tile is a good idea as the best idea in that scenario would be to break line of sight and hold w.
But just for the fuck of it lets say you did run to this tile anyway. You'd still be able to break line of sight by getting around the van, which would force him to take the half step down and let you get to the next tile in the next room (usually a worse tile with little to no way to break line of sight), or he would push you around the other way, which would both allow you to throw the pallet and escape to the next room , or just escape to the next room without even using it. Either way it would force him to walk all the way around the van, which would feed into this strategy.
Plus, even if myers did get unlimited tier 3, that is far from throwing the game. Myers is a basic m1 killer even with tier 3, so there is no reason to panic or loop any differently just because you are exposed. You would loop a perma tier 3 myers the exact same way you would legion, or even plague if they don't have their power.
@@Mr_TatorHead Ik but I’m thinking more along the lines of not getting my teammates screwed over and then being the last alive
funny how comp does this since forever
And its so mechanically easy that it shouldn't take the 4k hours that seems to be recommended to play at a comp level! With how simple looping really is, all it should take is like 500 - 1k hours to be able to loop at a comp level I think!
@@Mr_TatorHead you can waste tens of thousands of hours in any game or activity without understanding the fundamentals, ive seen many people in dbd that get downed without questioning themselfs what they could've done better/ different. so it's a good thing to show them what alternatives there are, that's why i like to watch comp, the wow effect after seeing things you're doing wrong the whole time, have a good one
@@QQysosrs Exactly! I had a few thousand hours of passing STRONG setups and never thinking twice about it! Suddenly started noticing a lot of them and how they went over my head all the time! Always just blamed it on mistiming dead hard and stuff like that when I'd go down! But almost every time you get downed, there is something to be learned there! There are also killers where you did what you wanted to and they just straight up outplayed you too! Best to tip the cap in those scenarios 😂
And you too mate!
Pov loop a singularity
Was lucky to get an example chase vs singularity for this vid! Talk about EXTREMELY lucky 😂
Bro i made a pro huntress DC with this loop
That shit's hilarious! I'm glad it's helped! Idk why dc's are so funny to me!
7:29 paid actor there... there was 0 reason for him to not follow
PLEASE for the love of god people dont use this pallet early in the matc ive been in so many end game situations while the exit door pallet is absolutely necessary
The other pallet is the good one for end game! This pallet you gotta go out of your way in terms of efficient pathing, and give the killer a chance to actually down you! To be able to use this pallet in end game (while not talking about pallet saves), you need both a teammate there, on time, to bodyblock the dropdown, as well as be coming from the correct direction! It can be useful coming from the room from the left, but there are only a handful of killers that that would be useful against!
The other entrance however has a great pallet for end game! but its pretty useless throughout the rest of the match since you would have yourself pinned inbetween 2 very easily mindgamable vans, but in the end game you would be running straight at the door, which is exactly when that pallet would be useful!
@@Mr_TatorHead theyre both extremely useful regardless in end game and it can often times be the difference between 4 man out and 3 man out(etc), and most of the time in end game your teammates are playing altruistically so youll usually have that help theres plenty of pallets on the map to use mid match, but i mean if youre on a swf with good comms and everyones competent then it dont really matter
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Right! Gideon is either awful for killer or the killer is borderline op on it 😂
Wait a minute, you've played survivor with NO PERKS since 2020? In solo queue? And you AREN'T in a mental asylum!? Hoooooly guacamole...
Survivor is really fun and I don't really ever feel disadvantaged without perks on it! Once all the maps were figured out it really just comes down to a lot of 50/50s and anyone can do any of that! Killer I feel disadvantaged a lot 😂
@Mr_TatorHead Personally I'm more of a killer main myself. Used to be more 50/50 but I honestly find killer a lot less frustrating than solo queue. Might have to use your guides to hop back into survivor; I can't let my boi Ace rot in obscurity!
Ive run this tile a couple times, but nowhere near as efficient as you bro lol that poor billy
Funniest part about this chase, was one of the survivors that had died was salty in chat trash talking about how I threw the game because I had no perks and how I was the reason they died somehow...then this chase happened and the billy let me go while they were yelling at me 😂
I cut the part out of the video but right as we escaped, definitely turned to them like "sorry I'm so useless without any perks mate" 😂
@@Mr_TatorHead All 3 hooks 🪝 were *definitely* *your* fault lmao
@@TehMAC EVEN THEIR NEXT GAMES HOOKS WERE MY FAULT FOR SURE
@@Mr_TatorHead You ruined their mental xD
I love this video and your analysis but my one advice is to be more specific with the scenarios and locations you are describing
" if the killer pushes us here or he goes there" its unclear where exactly "here" or "there" is to the viewer. its hard to visualize a lot what you are seeing. you could fix this by making on screen drawings or simply just have a killer in the customer game with you to simulate what you are talking about.
Thanks for the kind words and suggestions mate! This is def something I gotta look into! I'd prob have to start little bits at a time since the killer is me on my switch and I'm not the best editor, but little steps are always the way to improve!