Brother Schroeder and all the other members of the Governing Body told us over and over again to simplify our life’s and not to pursue a career and riches in this world! Now look at his son!!! I’m floored ... Thank you for this amazing video and all the research you put in it!
@@theblueenvelope a lot of bethelites didn't get accepted with their wives during that time including myself LOL But he left and his in-laws hooked hi Up When he came back to bethel he was driving a BMW not bad for a bethelite Lol
This is the one I was waiting for! The guy that get a Master in Legal HHRR and live a life of a rich guy. With a rich step father involved in profitable business with the Watchtower. It will be a pleasure to listen to this. Specially the implications of the fathers guy that was the main puppet of Franz in the hunting of the so called apostates in Bethel against Raymond F in the early 80s..... well I saw it complete. It did not dissapointed me. It shows the contrast of thousands of young JW could have a better life if they were allowed to study at college. I do not care if this guy is rich or poor. I care that the cult forces the mind of millions to see higher education as diabolic. Pure hypocrisy. Thank you for this video.
Married an heiress and gets a master's in HRL AND sets up various (cynical in my view) businesses profiting off of watchtower BS this guy cannot genuinely believe the hype. It's just a business the whole rotten scam!
So much more interesting to listen to a JW history lesson from Phil than a boring Sunday morning JW public talk. The same outlines for 30 years or so. I was bored to death ...
I was bored to death for nigh on 40 years. Even when I was the speaker. But yes what a why to spend your childhood when your mates were on their bikes and later on learning to smoke...well maybe not that.
I heard some good Public Talks during my eighteen years in it. I suspect you have a jaundiced view of your years as a Witness. I am a disfellowshipped apostate; with no PTSD.😮
@@alexanderv7702 , there were SOME good talks - most were not. After Ray Franz left the GB, things started to change. They basically would just read from a script (the outline) - and that is not interesting to the listener.
When Bethel created the Mepths program they needed to bring in a expert programmer and they found one who was married and had a family. So they moved them in an housed them in for five years. During that time they had a another child among the three they already had
I think your research is always great. I have one point though that I think you missed. There was a brief window of time in the organization's history where they eased up considerably on higher education. I want to say it was in the early 90's. There were some articles that came out that basically said that it's a conscience matter and if you are pursuing higher education so as to server the religion more it was A-OK. It was a real about face. But it only last a couple of years. I think bethel realized people were taking advantage of the loop hole, learned critical thinking and left the cult. I believe it is directly related to the story of Judah Ben Schroeder. I'm almost positive that when the father Schroeder was on the GB he is the one that pushed for changing their stance on higher education due to his son's and daughter-in-laws desire to go to Columbia. You may want to investigate that.
Great research. Just can't help and contrast with the Society's videos showing JWs turning down even modest promotions in factories and encouraged to live in humble accommodation.
My mom knew Judah when she was a kid. Ralph Walls was my dad’s roommate at Brooklyn. He was the right to take advantage of the rule change were the man did not have to be at bethel for 10 years to stay there. My dad left in July of 73 to marry my mom. Ralph was going to leave in November of 73. They changed the rule in august of 73.
That was really interesting! How does an expensive university education and fancy oceanside condo go together with the Watchtower ethos? Extremely weird. I also noticed in that letter that Amber wrote to her high school friends, she said "I am volunteering for Watchtower". That struck me as a very odd turn of phrase. I've never heard a JW describe their ministry service or their 'privileges' as volunteering. Although that is of course what it is, but JWs don't use that word. I always thought that was on purpose by the Society, because if a person "volunteers", they might feel good about themselves, and the organization to which the person volunteers their time and effort should be grateful. But the Society has always turned this principle on its head by claiming it is giving members the "privilege" of doing field service and fulfilling administrative tasks for the Society.
"I am volunteering for Watchtower". It struck me odd as well. I believe this is the phrase of a woman who is a little ashamed to tell her old classmates that she is using her education and time to serve what most outside the religion believes is a cult. She also did not use the term Jehovah's Witnesses which is a toxic term to most. Watchtower is a little less toxic and makes the reader think she's doing some sort of humanitarian work for them.
Thank you for all your hard work Phil! Very informative. He definitely seems like a WT "insider". Probably directing work in Asia, and the OSCE stuff, wow.
Good to know that Massimo and our Master in HHRR meet at a HHRR convention. Have sense. I would like that JB worked on Children Human Rights abused by members of his Cult rather than a propaganda work to show how they do not go to war.
Why did they allow Rutherford at Bethel, then? He was married! I expect because he was initially their lawyer....wrangled his way in that way and if you have the skills they need, the rules get bent. In fact I believe Bethel lawyers these days can have Famillies and are provided with a home. Isn't it interesting how they allowed the Schroeders to stay yet penalised them financially....hmmm. Punishment?
Moyle (Watchtower lawyer & later dissident) and his wife and son were allowed in Bethel in the 1930s so maybe the rules were fluid and not hard and fast.
I had interaction with ExJWs named Dale and Betty Baker they lived in Hemet CA in early 90s, they sent me all kinds of escape literature I wonder if these were the same folks you mentioned re the car dealership? Also, Ray Franz mentioned an exJW couple in California helped he and Cynthia make the decision to escape, wonder if it was them? They were wonderful and helpful to me. I was never a JW have family locked in 3 generations deep.
Thank you for your research. The impression I get is that Judah Ben Schroeder was "groomed" by the Society to further his education for the express purpose of the Society, in turn, using that education to its advantage. Additionally, from this information, it's clear that he "married into money", as the saying goes. His wife was able to benefit from her father's business in that she was able to do certain things which, ordinarily, youthful witnesses are, at the very least, strongly discouraged from doing in school, such as, serving on student council and being in the winter dance court, all while serving as a regular pioneer, of course. As for Albert Darget Schroeder, I agree that it was a combination of all three factors which enabled him to advance through the ranks at headquarters so quickly. However, it was principally the third factor which ensured his standing: He was, if nothing else, deeply loyal to the Society. He proved that to dramatic effect in the late seventies, particularly the spring of '80, during the crackdown at headquarters. As Randy Watters, who has there at the time, reported, Schroeder delivered a discourse to the Bethel elders, of which Watters was one, in which he made the statement that the Society is based upon rules. In this discourse he had the opportunity to pick up and read from the Bible to support that statement; after all, the Society has a unique ability to twist Scripture to suit its own ends. Instead, he picked up the Society's book "Branch Organization Procedure" and made the point that the Society's rules come from that book. He explained that that book contains 1,177 rules governing every aspect of life for Bethelites. Learning of this caused me to lose all respect I at one time had for him. Of course, it would be decades before I was to learn of this. Prior to my losing respect for him, A. D. Schroeder came to my hometown to serve as the Society's principal speaker at our 1991 district assembly. (As I recall, he delivered at least four discourses: The keynote address Friday morning, the Saturday evening discourse in which the "Greatest Man" book was issued, the public address and the concluding comments both Sunday afternoon.) A few months earlier, my congregation and the adjacent congregation had rebuilt our Kingdom Hall; and the two congratulations requested and the Society sent Schroeder to come back a couple of months after the district assembly to deliver the dedication address. At the time, he seemed an all-right kind of guy. I had absolutely no idea of his complete devotion to the Society, although the simple fact that he was a member of the Governing Body should have been a clue. But, even as late as 1991, the focus was on the Society. After all, Freddy Franz was still president. (I'll pause here briefly to say that I'm old enough and was involved with the Society at a time when I can honestly say that I've known or at least had interactions with witnesses who were active when Russell was president, and this was in the late seventies, the eighties and the early nineties, not all that long ago when you think about it. That may be why the Society has, thus far, been either unable or unwilling to completely wrest itself from the 1914 date; they're still not far enough removed from the events connected to the teaching. In other words: There remain too many active witnesses today who were active witnesses in the last forty years or so, and the Society realizes that they know too much and, if the 1914 date were completely dropped from the Society's eschatology, would start talking, because, as it stands right now, everything hinges on 1914. It's all about control for the Society. Consequently, the Society has had to force that bitter pill which is the "overlapping generation" down the throats of Jehovah's witnesses.) Albert Darget Schroeder was a prime mover in the Society and major proponent of many of its policies and doctrines. His personal attributes endeared and ingratiated him to Jehovah's witnesses, particularly Gilead students and appointed servants attending the Kingdom Ministry School. However, he was, first and foremost, an "organization" man. Judah Ben Schroeder, as your research demonstrates, likewise is an "organization" man. Granted, he may not necessarily be trying to ride on his father's coattails, but, as the saying goes: "Like father, like son." Thanks again for this information.
I had an aunt and uncle who lived at Bethel, until my aunt got pregnant. They had to leave at that point. Then after my cousin was born, she was abused sexually from the time she was a toddler and it lasted for quite a few years. A bro in the kingdom hall pimped her close by where they attended meetings. He had customers lined up for after the Sunday meetings ended. How's that for JW trivia?💔
@@Neville60001 Sadly, the family was talked out of going to the "authorities" for justice. The elders "dealt" with it by sliding it under the rug. "Leave it in Jayhoover's hands." You know the drill. Last I heard the "pimp/brother" was still in good standing as a JW. My heart aches for her.
Barlinnie prison is in Glasgow; surely he would have served his time (if he did!) in an English prison. Why would an American get 'Called Up' for the British Army?😮
Electrical Engineering was not new in the 1920's. University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign I believed started theirs in the 1890's. The hot field at the time was Chemical Engineering.
I just felt increasing anger and nausea listening to this. How the hell did this man, Judah, get from being born and raised literally inside a non profit supposedly Christian organisation , where most volunteer workers went in with nothing and came out with nothing, end up with a Masters degree , own various corporations (with the prestige and reputation to go with that) and extravagant property?? Where did the money come from? And this man professes to be an expert in the field of human rights???? That makes him a most despicable individual!!! He supports, defends and has essentially become wealthy because of his direct involvement with, an organisation that robs millions of people of their human rights. He is worse than the GB in my opinion. There is something seriously wrong with this picture. I haven't felt this mad for a while.
I didn't hear was Mr Schroeder active as an Elder throughout his life and currently? Is his wife a pioneer currently? Certainly it is good to get an education and make a living; but with his dad as GB this all does sound pretty hypocritical if he is and elder!
Albert Schroeder gave a talk in the Usher Hall, Edinburgh, Scotland. He apologised for the debacle over 1975. On the other hand, Frederick Franz gave a boring talk in Glasgow, Scotland; where he said, 'the Watchtower has nothing to apologise for.' Both talks may have been given in the same year. Freddie may have given his talk first.
My older brother went out I service in a territory 8 miles from home . after it was decided the millionaire elder was buying lunch , he put out my 14 year old brother , and told him he could walk home . . that it would be " good for him ". The rich man , then took everyone else , to lunch . My brother saw the hypocrisy and class distinction back in the sixties , then as now there were not many educated member's in our congregation .
In 1985 was the "peace and security " . . . I remember because I left at the end of 1984 and was shunned for 6 months at "home ". ..Lots of hope in jw world. It could be that there was lots of bethelites because of this peace and carrots, sorry : security. . . ! ?
@@okhuibutala1640 , I don't comprehend the sense of your comment. English is not my first language. Could you please explain to me what you are trying to say? Thanks!
The peace and security threat is pretty old, been used a long time to fill the halls, now to fill up the zoom squares of course. Of course Covid is the current threat to fill zoom.
Juda and his wife at bethel in the 90s because I saw him going I a sports bar called stubs every Tuesday after the bookstudy we’re a lot o bethelites went including myself
Compass Corporate reminds me of that company in the JW movie, The Prodigal, even the logo. I think it was called True North...they made it out to be "evil"
new arrangements or new light come down more often to prophets or leaders the for rank and file soldiers:))) in general, i mean...in all organized religions or cults
And his parents were never shunned or disfellowshipped for allowing their son to seek out worldly higher education…interesting how the jw elite operate…this guy went on further to cash in on his jw administrative experience.
Judah must be keeping his finger on the pulse of human rights in order to advise Watchtower lawyers and lobby governments on behalf of watchtower. He's probably pretty wealthy if his wife is an only child and inherited her father's money, hence the private uni. Being involved in that shady, misled, deluded character Massimo...well, ugh!! So funny how he spun his experience of ministry school into some dodgy cult business. You're dead funny, there's no fooling you😂😂 High ranking witnesses have captive customers for their businesses...maybe the new one was set up to profit from human rights advice to the lawyers and or charities helpping witnesses in jail etc
what about Judah's attorney "career" and whether or not he really attended any law school or not? I saw some documents while researching the Pedo trials that seemed to indicate that JBS was (at least representing himself) as a lawyer
Brother Schroeder and all the other members of the Governing Body told us over and over again to simplify our life’s and not to pursue a career and riches in this world! Now look at his son!!! I’m floored ... Thank you for this amazing video and all the research you put in it!
Nobody put a gun to our heads!
We swallowed the lie-as did they-hook line and sinker!😮
@@alexanderv7702 , well, that’s what indoctrination does!! And I was born and raised in the cult. Makes it even worse!
Excellent info on J Ben
I was at bethel when the "Royal Wedding" took place LOL
I heard it was quite the event haha. Do you know if he was back at Bethel in the '90s? Wasn't sure if you were still there at that point.
@@theblueenvelope a lot of bethelites didn't get accepted with their wives
during that time including myself LOL
But he left and his in-laws hooked hi
Up
When he came back to bethel he was driving a BMW not bad for a bethelite
Lol
@@ExJWCriticalThinker I'll say :D
What years were you in bethel? I was in gilead in 94 at wallkill
😂😂😂😂
This should be 9Million views.
I love your different style in presenting information and telling stories! Great researcher!
This is the one I was waiting for! The guy that get a Master in Legal HHRR and live a life of a rich guy. With a rich step father involved in profitable business with the Watchtower. It will be a pleasure to listen to this. Specially the implications of the fathers guy that was the main puppet of Franz in the hunting of the so called apostates in Bethel against Raymond F in the early 80s..... well I saw it complete. It did not dissapointed me. It shows the contrast of thousands of young JW could have a better life if they were allowed to study at college. I do not care if this guy is rich or poor. I care that the cult forces the mind of millions to see higher education as diabolic. Pure hypocrisy. Thank you for this video.
Married an heiress and gets a master's in HRL AND sets up various (cynical in my view) businesses profiting off of watchtower BS this guy cannot genuinely believe the hype. It's just a business the whole rotten scam!
Your job is awesome! So glad to be subscribed. So sad is not in Spanish .Our Community needs to know this facts.
Join forces. Translate the videos together.
@@MannyRosa we need to ask for Blue Envelope's owner permission
@@miker00I that’s what I mean. Contact him. Tell him your idea. Join forces with him.
Dear brother
Thank you for the information
You do fantastic job !
All of us ( xJw)
Appreciate you ❤️
Always a good listen!
I love your ongoing and studious approach to these reports Phil.
So much more interesting to listen to a JW history lesson from Phil than a boring Sunday morning JW public talk. The same outlines for 30 years or so. I was bored to death ...
I was bored to death for nigh on 40 years. Even when I was the speaker. But yes what a why to spend your childhood when your mates were on their bikes and later on learning to smoke...well maybe not that.
I heard some good Public Talks during my eighteen years in it.
I suspect you have a jaundiced view of your years as a Witness.
I am a disfellowshipped apostate; with no PTSD.😮
@@alexanderv7702 , there were SOME good talks - most were not. After Ray Franz left the GB, things started to change. They basically would just read from a script (the outline) - and that is not interesting to the listener.
Absolutely live your content and presentation👏❤
always informative
When Bethel created the Mepths program they needed to bring in a expert programmer and they found one who was married and had a family. So they moved them in an housed them in for five years. During that time they had a another child among the three they already had
I think your research is always great. I have one point though that I think you missed. There was a brief window of time in the organization's history where they eased up considerably on higher education. I want to say it was in the early 90's. There were some articles that came out that basically said that it's a conscience matter and if you are pursuing higher education so as to server the religion more it was A-OK. It was a real about face. But it only last a couple of years. I think bethel realized people were taking advantage of the loop hole, learned critical thinking and left the cult. I believe it is directly related to the story of Judah Ben Schroeder. I'm almost positive that when the father Schroeder was on the GB he is the one that pushed for changing their stance on higher education due to his son's and daughter-in-laws desire to go to Columbia. You may want to investigate that.
you know your stuff, always enjoy listening.
Great research. Just can't help and contrast with the Society's videos showing JWs turning down even modest promotions in factories and encouraged to live in humble accommodation.
wow! great job at research/ investigation🧐 👍🏻
We love your channel man
I was at bethel when his Royal Wedding took place
Lol
JT and Lady Cee
Excellent expose of the utter hypocrisy of the upper echelons of the vipers nest.
Love your channel phill
Wow. Incredibly interesting! Love your work😊
My mom knew Judah when she was a kid. Ralph Walls was my dad’s roommate at Brooklyn. He was the right to take advantage of the rule change were the man did not have to be at bethel for 10 years to stay there. My dad left in July of 73 to marry my mom. Ralph was going to leave in November of 73. They changed the rule in august of 73.
My god, what a lot of detailed information this guy holds!!!!
So much great info. Always enjoy your videos. 👍🏼🤗
That was really interesting! How does an expensive university education and fancy oceanside condo go together with the Watchtower ethos? Extremely weird. I also noticed in that letter that Amber wrote to her high school friends, she said "I am volunteering for Watchtower". That struck me as a very odd turn of phrase. I've never heard a JW describe their ministry service or their 'privileges' as volunteering.
Although that is of course what it is, but JWs don't use that word. I always thought that was on purpose by the Society, because if a person "volunteers", they might feel good about themselves, and the organization to which the person volunteers their time and effort should be grateful. But the Society has always turned this principle on its head by claiming it is giving members the "privilege" of doing field service and fulfilling administrative tasks for the Society.
"I am volunteering for Watchtower".
It struck me odd as well. I believe this is the phrase of a woman who is a little ashamed to tell her old classmates that she is using her education and time to serve what most outside the religion believes is a cult. She also did not use the term Jehovah's Witnesses which is a toxic term to most. Watchtower is a little less toxic and makes the reader think she's doing some sort of humanitarian work for them.
Policy Change for selfish reasons 👍 Judah seems to understand the org. Get what ever you can out of the org you can & marry money 💰
Thank you for all your hard work Phil! Very informative. He definitely seems like a WT "insider". Probably directing work in Asia, and the OSCE stuff, wow.
Thank you. Great video.
Stalk her, pursue her, court her... whatever it is lol
Good to know that Massimo and our Master in HHRR meet at a HHRR convention. Have sense. I would like that JB worked on Children Human Rights abused by members of his Cult rather than a propaganda work to show how they do not go to war.
Great video. Keep on seeking first the kingdom!
Why did they allow Rutherford at Bethel, then? He was married! I expect because he was initially their lawyer....wrangled his way in that way and if you have the skills they need, the rules get bent. In fact I believe Bethel lawyers these days can have Famillies and are provided with a home. Isn't it interesting how they allowed the Schroeders to stay yet penalised them financially....hmmm. Punishment?
Moyle (Watchtower lawyer & later dissident) and his wife and son were allowed in Bethel in the 1930s so maybe the rules were fluid and not hard and fast.
I had interaction with ExJWs named Dale and Betty Baker they lived in Hemet CA in early 90s, they sent me all kinds of escape literature I wonder if these were the same folks you mentioned re the car dealership? Also, Ray Franz mentioned an exJW couple in California helped he and Cynthia make the decision to escape, wonder if it was them? They were wonderful and helpful to me. I was never a JW have family locked in 3 generations deep.
Jack Barr married Mildred only after Knorr married; to the disgust of the Branch Servant, Pryce Hughes
Thank you for your research. The impression I get is that Judah Ben Schroeder was "groomed" by the Society to further his education for the express purpose of the Society, in turn, using that education to its advantage. Additionally, from this information, it's clear that he "married into money", as the saying goes. His wife was able to benefit from her father's business in that she was able to do certain things which, ordinarily, youthful witnesses are, at the very least, strongly discouraged from doing in school, such as, serving on student council and being in the winter dance court, all while serving as a regular pioneer, of course.
As for Albert Darget Schroeder, I agree that it was a combination of all three factors which enabled him to advance through the ranks at headquarters so quickly. However, it was principally the third factor which ensured his standing: He was, if nothing else, deeply loyal to the Society. He proved that to dramatic effect in the late seventies, particularly the spring of '80, during the crackdown at headquarters. As Randy Watters, who has there at the time, reported, Schroeder delivered a discourse to the Bethel elders, of which Watters was one, in which he made the statement that the Society is based upon rules. In this discourse he had the opportunity to pick up and read from the Bible to support that statement; after all, the Society has a unique ability to twist Scripture to suit its own ends. Instead, he picked up the Society's book "Branch Organization Procedure" and made the point that the Society's rules come from that book. He explained that that book contains 1,177 rules governing every aspect of life for Bethelites. Learning of this caused me to lose all respect I at one time had for him. Of course, it would be decades before I was to learn of this.
Prior to my losing respect for him, A. D. Schroeder came to my hometown to serve as the Society's principal speaker at our 1991 district assembly. (As I recall, he delivered at least four discourses: The keynote address Friday morning, the Saturday evening discourse in which the "Greatest Man" book was issued, the public address and the concluding comments both Sunday afternoon.) A few months earlier, my congregation and the adjacent congregation had rebuilt our Kingdom Hall; and the two congratulations requested and the Society sent Schroeder to come back a couple of months after the district assembly to deliver the dedication address. At the time, he seemed an all-right kind of guy. I had absolutely no idea of his complete devotion to the Society, although the simple fact that he was a member of the Governing Body should have been a clue. But, even as late as 1991, the focus was on the Society. After all, Freddy Franz was still president. (I'll pause here briefly to say that I'm old enough and was involved with the Society at a time when I can honestly say that I've known or at least had interactions with witnesses who were active when Russell was president, and this was in the late seventies, the eighties and the early nineties, not all that long ago when you think about it. That may be why the Society has, thus far, been either unable or unwilling to completely wrest itself from the 1914 date; they're still not far enough removed from the events connected to the teaching. In other words: There remain too many active witnesses today who were active witnesses in the last forty years or so, and the Society realizes that they know too much and, if the 1914 date were completely dropped from the Society's eschatology, would start talking, because, as it stands right now, everything hinges on 1914. It's all about control for the Society. Consequently, the Society has had to force that bitter pill which is the "overlapping generation" down the throats of Jehovah's witnesses.)
Albert Darget Schroeder was a prime mover in the Society and major proponent of many of its policies and doctrines. His personal attributes endeared and ingratiated him to Jehovah's witnesses, particularly Gilead students and appointed servants attending the Kingdom Ministry School. However, he was, first and foremost, an "organization" man. Judah Ben Schroeder, as your research demonstrates, likewise is an "organization" man. Granted, he may not necessarily be trying to ride on his father's coattails, but, as the saying goes: "Like father, like son."
Thanks again for this information.
Two giant cynics if u ask me. Great post btw
Amazing stuff. Wonder what made you wake up?
I think that maybe the Schroeder's knew were some of the bodies were buried up at Bethel. It's so unusual that he was able to get away w/ all this.
I met Judah once in Columbia University, during a seminar for a holocaust survivor.
I had an aunt and uncle who lived at Bethel, until my aunt got pregnant. They had to leave at that point. Then after my cousin was born, she was abused sexually from the time she was a toddler and it lasted for quite a few years. A bro in the kingdom hall pimped her close by where they attended meetings. He had customers lined up for after the Sunday meetings ended. How's that for JW trivia?💔
Esther, that is very sad.😔
Was the person that did this to your cousin ever dealt with legally?
@@Neville60001 Sadly, the family was talked out of going to the "authorities" for justice. The elders "dealt" with it by sliding it under the rug. "Leave it in Jayhoover's hands." You know the drill. Last I heard the "pimp/brother" was still in good standing as a JW. My heart aches for her.
@@Esther-1914 😱😭😭😭
Barlinnie prison is in Glasgow; surely he would have served his time (if he did!) in an English prison.
Why would an American get 'Called Up' for the British Army?😮
Very nice thoroughly enjoyed
Electrical Engineering was not new in the 1920's. University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign I believed started theirs in the 1890's. The hot field at the time was Chemical Engineering.
“The secret sauce” 😹😹love it !
Starting a business in the midst of a pandemic ... thought these were the final days of the last days hmmmm
He looks the part. Fits right in.
I just felt increasing anger and nausea listening to this. How the hell did this man, Judah, get from being born and raised literally inside a non profit supposedly Christian organisation , where most volunteer workers went in with nothing and came out with nothing, end up with a Masters degree , own various corporations (with the prestige and reputation to go with that) and extravagant property?? Where did the money come from? And this man professes to be an expert in the field of human rights???? That makes him a most despicable individual!!! He supports, defends and has essentially become wealthy because of his direct involvement with, an organisation that robs millions of people of their human rights. He is worse than the GB in my opinion. There is something seriously wrong with this picture. I haven't felt this mad for a while.
I didn't hear was Mr Schroeder active as an Elder throughout his life and currently? Is his wife a pioneer currently?
Certainly it is good to get an education and make a living; but with his dad as GB this all does sound pretty hypocritical if he is and elder!
I met Judah in 1979. He is 9 months younger than me.
Albert Schroeder gave a talk in the Usher Hall, Edinburgh, Scotland.
He apologised for the debacle over 1975.
On the other hand, Frederick Franz gave a boring talk in Glasgow, Scotland; where he said, 'the Watchtower has nothing to apologise for.'
Both talks may have been given in the same year. Freddie may have given his talk first.
Interesting! Any recordings of those talks floating around?
Captivating!
Is there any relation to high profile elder in Kansas City ..Ken Schroeder?
Interesting information!
My older brother went out I service in a territory 8 miles from home . after it was decided the millionaire elder was buying lunch , he put out my 14 year old brother , and told him he could walk home . . that it would be " good for him ". The rich man , then took everyone else , to lunch . My brother saw the hypocrisy and class distinction back in the sixties , then as now there were not many educated member's in our congregation .
In 1985 was the "peace and security " . . . I remember because I left at the end of 1984 and was shunned for 6 months at "home ". ..Lots of hope in jw world. It could be that there was lots of bethelites because of this peace and carrots, sorry : security. . . ! ?
False - lead to another lies - keep going to - another lies - keep going to - 🥵
@@okhuibutala1640 , I don't comprehend the sense of your comment. English is not my first language. Could you please explain to me what you are trying to say? Thanks!
The peace and security threat is pretty old, been used a long time to fill the halls, now to fill up the zoom squares of course. Of course Covid is the current threat to fill zoom.
@@MattG171 , thanks. . . I know that I am old. Just kidding, I am old and I still think that I am young at heart! ☺😉😄
@@natashapeeters988 Yes you are. I Graduated high school in 1982 & left in 1982-83 I'm definitely young at heart too.
Does anyone know a Matthew G. Alfs a Witness from Mknneapolis, who sold old Society books and paraphernalia?
Juda and his wife at bethel in the 90s because I saw him going I a sports bar called stubs every Tuesday after the bookstudy we’re a lot o bethelites went including myself
It is my understanding that a Translation Base was built in the south down Florida way
Compass Corporate reminds me of that company in the JW movie, The Prodigal, even the logo. I think it was called True North...they made it out to be "evil"
There are normal folks in this religion.. I did not know that!
new arrangements or new light come down more often to prophets or leaders the for rank and file soldiers:))) in general, i mean...in all organized religions or cults
Milton henshel went to bethel at 15
I knew a family living in Bethel
Obviously Judah didn’t exist on JW stipend
So basicly he leverage his bethel career for a secular career lol
And his parents were never shunned or disfellowshipped for allowing their son to seek out worldly higher education…interesting how the jw elite operate…this guy went on further to cash in on his jw administrative experience.
If he was a hairy baby, He would be, Judah Ben hair!
As of now... you are just reporting physical facts... there are loads of history...dig deeper... it’s frightening...🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺😃🥾🥾👿🐓💩🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🥾🥾🐓🔥🏠
Do yourself a favor Judah, just say you were born in New York.
Judah must be keeping his finger on the pulse of human rights in order to advise Watchtower lawyers and lobby governments on behalf of watchtower. He's probably pretty wealthy if his wife is an only child and inherited her father's money, hence the private uni. Being involved in that shady, misled, deluded character Massimo...well, ugh!! So funny how he spun his experience of ministry school into some dodgy cult business. You're dead funny, there's no fooling you😂😂 High ranking witnesses have captive customers for their businesses...maybe the new one was set up to profit from human rights advice to the lawyers and or charities helpping witnesses in jail etc
What kind of retirement benefits do these lifelong diehards receive when they can no longer work?
Splane =GESTAPO??????
He got a bonk on, what's wrong with that?
what about Judah's attorney "career" and whether or not he really attended any law school or not? I saw some documents while researching the Pedo trials that seemed to indicate that JBS was (at least representing himself) as a lawyer