It's just outlandishly amazing how they discussed shortfalls in their religion/community with a cool head.. respectfully and some friendly banter .. either Cyrus maneuvered the interview like a boss or this community is something else..
It is high time that Parsi Trust give the females the right to choose their religion after marriage….the men from the community need to come ahead and support it rather than sleep over it
Indians discovered how to crystallize sugar during the Gupta dynasty, around 350 AD although literary evidence from Indian treatises such as Arthashastra in the 4th-3rd century BC indicates that refined sugar was already being produced in India.
This was such a lovely episode, we really do not know much about the community. And yes, it is a culture in any Calcutta household, be it of any religion, to encourage the children to read, and i really hope that it continues, definitely will with my daughter
Prochy, is a Great Parsi Lady......... her fighting spirit is conspicuous. This community should be declared as a Notified Tribe, and should be given special category status. I may dare say that Parliament should reserve two parsi seats, along with gujjawars and barkarwals, and nepalis of Darjeeling.
Great episode. All thanks to 'Cyrus Says' that there is some awareness about the religion and the culture. I bought the previous book by Coomi Kapoor n now this one.
Cyrus wasn’t paying attention 😁 Coming from Karachi, where are lucky to have a Parsi community who’s been there for centuries and played vital role in making of biggest city in Pakistan, I’ve always wanted to understand the Parsi history and religion. Thank you for the episode. Very interesting conversation indeed. Will research more and get the book too.
After 25 yrs in my 40s I bought a 2nd hand duke from a Pune Parsi. Spotlessly maintained indeed. He thought I would be the right person as I would take care of it rather than the raangda Marathi manoos enquiring about it. Being afraid to drop it after not riding for so long , I asked him to drop me home once sold. Bloody hell, he rode it at 90-100 on Pune roads on a Sunday from near East Street to Kothrud, braking suddenly and I held on for dear life. He was pissing off so many people but he not they shouted! I had decided not to stereotype parsis as bit crazy but man...
'Who Is A Parsi?' Is a serious subject with validated content that challenges long held beliefs and a cruel practice. Cyrus steered the podcast with a light touch and explored the key messages with a sprinkling of humour that helps with message recall after the podcast is done. That requires skill.
Sugarcane was an ancient crop of the Austronesian and Papuan people. It was introduced to Polynesia, Island Melanesia, and Madagascar in prehistoric times via Austronesian sailors. It was also introduced to southern China and India by Austronesian traders around 1200 to 1000 BC. The Persians and Greeks encountered the famous "reeds that produce honey without bees" in India between the sixth and fourth centuries BC. They adopted and then spread sugarcane agriculture.[5] Merchants began to trade in sugar, which was considered a luxurious and expensive spice, from India. There was sugar .
Excellent episode. What a wonderfully rich culture regarding which there is such little knowledge and information. So glad to be able to acquire more information via this medium. Love this channel for providing such excellently eclectic content.
Sugarcane has been around since time immemorial. The first recorded instance of refined sugar is 350 AD in the Gupta industry. The first refined sugar plant was in 1904. The Jadi Rana story of sugar dissolved in milk is improbable because refined sugar did not exist 2000 years ago. Certainly not in dissolvable form.
@@YezdiK Megasthenes mentions, "Indians have crystalized sugar". Chinese Ting dynasty emperor sent a delegation to India during Harshawardhna's time to learn how to crystalize sugar. There are mentions of repeated washing to make it even white.
I am one of the very few Indians who had the opportunity to live and work with Iranians in USA. I was under the impression that i was the only Indian who knew about Tehrangeles and Persian food but Abhijit Iyer Mitra proved me wrong. He also knows what Tahdeg and Tahchin along with Shirazi salad. The food that Parsi community eats is very different than what is consumed by Iranians. But there is one commonality between Parsis of India and Iranians from Iran or born in West. They have a extremely or might say enforce a rigid cultural identity on their children. They are absolutely proud about their Iranian culture and make sure that it is ingrained and imbibed in their children. I have not encountered one Iranian in West who does not speak Farsi. Farsi is taught to them irrespective of what country they are growing up in. Marrying non Iranians is also frowned upon even in West and i have known so many of my ABCIs only marry other Iranians to sustain their cultural identity. A lot of my coworkers where Persian-Jews and some where Shia Muslims but extremely liberal and friendly at the same time very close minded in terms of inviting you to a personal or family event. Parsis to a lot extend exhibit the same behavior. I got to know a lot of them coz my father worked at Bombay Dyeing. I was so amazed that Parsis did actually sustain their cultural identity over 1000s of year by not doing intercaste marriage. Look at Boman Irani the nose gives it away. Greeks Iranians and Jews when you see their face esepecially forehead and nose gives it away as in who is who.
You seem to think very highly of yourself. You aren’t one of few Indians to or and live around Iranians, you are most certainly not the only Indian who knows about Persian food lol.
The injustice of this inequality simply infuriates. Interesting historical arguments to attempt to change this stupidity in the Parsi community, who risk their very existence because of it.
It's all about the huge wealth trapped in the Parsi trusts. Once the community dies out the remaining Heads of the Parsi Panchayats, and the Dastoors ,the priests will split the spoils.
35:37 Even if Parsis were to accept conversions and children of intermarriages the community would still be dying out because Parsis just don't have children. Parsis have a fertility rate of 0.8 children per woman, below the 2.1 required for a community to grow. Deaths outnumber births EIGHT times! It takes real mental gymnastics to blame the exclusion of converts and interfaith marriages for the decline of Parsis when it's been obvious for almost 100 years now that Parsis are not having enough children to sustain their population.
The singing voice is very pretty although I can't appreciate it in the podcast the voice is beautiful... These kind of books are the need of the hour it's time we saw change for the better but it's a much needed revolution which might anhilate the current way of life and system. But atleast the falsehood of folklore is guffawable...
I have just watched the first 30mins of this podcast and I am amazed by the lack of research she has done, I just surfed Internet and I got some evidence which prove that whatever she is saying is not the complete truth. Firstly The first chemically refined sugar appeared on the scene in India about 2,500 years ago. From there, the technique spread east towards China, and west towards Persia and the early Islamic worlds, eventually reaching the Mediterranean in the 13th century. And I think Parsi came after that Also she said there is nothing to trace Parsi back to Iran but in the excavation at sanjan they have found blue pottery which was manufactured in Iraq and Siraf in Iran. Sorry I could not watch the complete because I thought it’s not worth it to watch this half backed research. If the person writing the book was some expert then I would have done the complete analysis
Thanks for saving me the trouble of searching for these exact points ! But leaving early I hope you didn’t miss the part where she says Parsi lineage can’t be traced because they didn’t come with passports 😅
PARSEES ARE NOT FROM IRAN BUT EGYPT AND SUDAN WHICH WAS ONCE EXTENSIVELY POPULATED BY ZOROASTRIANS WHOSE TEMPLES WERE WIDESPREAD..........IRANEES ARE FROM IRAN........PARS IS ACTUALLY THE NILE VALLEY AND SUDAN
"PARS"; BEHISTUN ROCK inscription in cuneiform script translated as at the Astodan (sarcophagus) of DARIUS old persain (Daraya-vehush) at Naqshe-Rustum in IRAN; PARSA, PARSAHYA PUTRA; ARIYA, ARIYA CHITRA; translated as; "PARSI; son of a PARSI; An ARYAN, having ARYAN lineage.
No not all religion wants to convert Hinduism for a long time till recent didn't accepted conversions the reason why Sonia Gandhi was not allowed to enter pashupati Nath temple as she was not a born Hindu , same goes for Jagannath temple this whole Arya Samaj and Iscon happened later who said if otye rpeople can convert us wjy can't we and hare Krishna and Krishna consciousness took place , even back in mufhal rule or before when people were captured in wars and they surrenders and submitted they were not accepted back , in rajputs you will find rangers it was name give to rajputs who were captured or surrendered in war theyvwanted to come back to rajpit community but we had eigid system and so they have to follow Islam.
This community is fun loving so don't understand y there's insecurity on giving girls their right,,chill parsis will remain mainly c9z of their jovial nature
It's just outlandishly amazing how they discussed shortfalls in their religion/community with a cool head.. respectfully and some friendly banter .. either Cyrus maneuvered the interview like a boss or this community is something else..
It is high time that Parsi Trust give the females the right to choose their religion after marriage….the men from the community need to come ahead and support it rather than sleep over it
Could you elaborate about that?? I've never properly understood that how zorastrianianism works 😕
Indians discovered how to crystallize sugar during the Gupta dynasty, around 350 AD although literary evidence from Indian treatises such as Arthashastra in the 4th-3rd century BC indicates that refined sugar was already being produced in India.
This was such a lovely episode, we really do not know much about the community. And yes, it is a culture in any Calcutta household, be it of any religion, to encourage the children to read, and i really hope that it continues, definitely will with my daughter
Such a touching moment. You can see it in cyrus eyes....
What a song!! I could see cyrus's eyes turned teary. Parsis are eccentric but lovable community
The link to a video of the song is added
ruclips.net/video/dXD96x1YSSU/видео.html
Prochy, is a Great Parsi Lady......... her fighting spirit is conspicuous. This community should be declared as a Notified Tribe, and should be given special category status. I may dare say that Parliament should reserve two parsi seats, along with gujjawars and barkarwals, and nepalis of Darjeeling.
How did i miss these podcasts...cyrus has been a legend. This day and age sets you back ...in future. Glad i returned
Great episode. All thanks to 'Cyrus Says' that there is some awareness about the religion and the culture. I bought the previous book by Coomi Kapoor n now this one.
Cyrus wasn’t paying attention 😁
Coming from Karachi, where are lucky to have a Parsi community who’s been there for centuries and played vital role in making of biggest city in Pakistan, I’ve always wanted to understand the Parsi history and religion. Thank you for the episode. Very interesting conversation indeed. Will research more and get the book too.
After 25 yrs in my 40s I bought a 2nd hand duke from a Pune Parsi. Spotlessly maintained indeed. He thought I would be the right person as I would take care of it rather than the raangda Marathi manoos enquiring about it. Being afraid to drop it after not riding for so long , I asked him to drop me home once sold. Bloody hell, he rode it at 90-100 on Pune roads on a Sunday from near East Street to Kothrud, braking suddenly and I held on for dear life. He was pissing off so many people but he not they shouted! I had decided not to stereotype parsis as bit crazy but man...
Song was very emotional.. Cyrus bhai intervening why... Hope great success and reach to the book by prochy ma'am... Great podcast..
Beautiful beautiful episode loved Prochy...the song is beautiful!!!! If you find it on any music platform pls reply with the link.... thanks!!!
What an informative episode!! Loved Prochy❤
Song at the the end was beautiful ❤
It must be hard for Cyrus to sit through a serious conversation...😅
'Who Is A Parsi?' Is a serious subject with validated content that challenges long held beliefs and a cruel practice. Cyrus steered the podcast with a light touch and explored the key messages with a sprinkling of humour that helps with message recall after the podcast is done. That requires skill.
The struggle was real.
Sugarcane was an ancient crop of the Austronesian and Papuan people. It was introduced to Polynesia, Island Melanesia, and Madagascar in prehistoric times via Austronesian sailors. It was also introduced to southern China and India by Austronesian traders around 1200 to 1000 BC. The Persians and Greeks encountered the famous "reeds that produce honey without bees" in India between the sixth and fourth centuries BC. They adopted and then spread sugarcane agriculture.[5] Merchants began to trade in sugar, which was considered a luxurious and expensive spice, from India. There was sugar .
Excellent episode. What a wonderfully rich culture regarding which there is such little knowledge and information. So glad to be able to acquire more information via this medium. Love this channel for providing such excellently eclectic content.
Sports is still an integral part in our lives.
The Womens Indian Rugby Captain is Vahbiz Bharucha.
Prochi has come in full blast mode. No nonsense allowed by Cyrus. She is out speaking Cyrus. Loha lohe ko kaat ta hai
I was dating parsi girl and I was so in love but she said we can't continue because of her religion issue and I tried lot but she said no only
Cyrus during the song is freaking hilarious man just look at him lmao 😂
Someone, please educate me what happened to Week that wasn't show. Thanks
A very nice podcast, next time kindly ask more questions about facebook, meta and that mma fight with elon musk.
I love it this episode 😍💖
Parsi means “ people from Paras, local term for Persia” .. just found out.. interesting conversation Cyrus!
Cyrus says What a nougaty community.. Rugby of a diff kind... cracked me 😅
Prochy Mehta mam ur daughter sings so good 👍
Thankyou
Pls get shenaz treasurywala
Really enjoyed the talk...Hope the community opens up and increase in numbers.
Cyrus plz have a podcast with Cyrus Sahukar & Hozeay.
Soon
@cyrus says If u have ballz, try getting the trio hoezzay, suresh, cyril
there's an episode with hoezaay, you can check that out too
@@janakshetty yes, I have watched it and even suresh episode. But the trio is a diff story, them pulling each other and hoezays in between jokes. Nvm
@@lazyhippo4818 they are hilarious
Cyrus pls get malaika also on your podcast😊 missing your mtv shows
ruclips.net/video/Y1V_4a48h6g/видео.html
Sugar was invented in India around 2000 years back, so it might have been there when Parsis came.
Sugarcane has been around since time immemorial. The first recorded instance of refined sugar is 350 AD in the Gupta industry. The first refined sugar plant was in 1904. The Jadi Rana story of sugar dissolved in milk is improbable because refined sugar did not exist 2000 years ago. Certainly not in dissolvable form.
@@YezdiK Megasthenes mentions, "Indians have crystalized sugar". Chinese Ting dynasty emperor sent a delegation to India during Harshawardhna's time to learn how to crystalize sugar. There are mentions of repeated washing to make it even white.
Fantastic show- made me question my own Parsipanu and folklores that I have grown up with.
Awesome content
I am one of the very few Indians who had the opportunity to live and work with Iranians in USA. I was under the impression that i was the only Indian who knew about Tehrangeles and Persian food but Abhijit Iyer Mitra proved me wrong. He also knows what Tahdeg and Tahchin along with Shirazi salad. The food that Parsi community eats is very different than what is consumed by Iranians. But there is one commonality between Parsis of India and Iranians from Iran or born in West. They have a extremely or might say enforce a rigid cultural identity on their children. They are absolutely proud about their Iranian culture and make sure that it is ingrained and imbibed in their children. I have not encountered one Iranian in West who does not speak Farsi. Farsi is taught to them irrespective of what country they are growing up in. Marrying non Iranians is also frowned upon even in West and i have known so many of my ABCIs only marry other Iranians to sustain their cultural identity. A lot of my coworkers where Persian-Jews and some where Shia Muslims but extremely liberal and friendly at the same time very close minded in terms of inviting you to a personal or family event. Parsis to a lot extend exhibit the same behavior. I got to know a lot of them coz my father worked at Bombay Dyeing. I was so amazed that Parsis did actually sustain their cultural identity over 1000s of year by not doing intercaste marriage. Look at Boman Irani the nose gives it away. Greeks Iranians and Jews when you see their face esepecially forehead and nose gives it away as in who is who.
You seem to think very highly of yourself. You aren’t one of few Indians to or and live around Iranians, you are most certainly not the only Indian who knows about Persian food lol.
The injustice of this inequality simply infuriates. Interesting historical arguments to attempt to change this stupidity in the Parsi community, who risk their very existence because of it.
Is there sugar in Gujarat today 😅😅 Nice one Cyrus
It's all about the huge wealth trapped in the Parsi trusts. Once the community dies out the remaining Heads of the Parsi Panchayats, and the Dastoors ,the priests will split the spoils.
We want Mr Nariman on this podcast
Last bastion of liberal thought - Bengal...lol
Cyrus' sarcasm is amazing
35:37 Even if Parsis were to accept conversions and children of intermarriages the community would still be dying out because Parsis just don't have children. Parsis have a fertility rate of 0.8 children per woman, below the 2.1 required for a community to grow. Deaths outnumber births EIGHT times! It takes real mental gymnastics to blame the exclusion of converts and interfaith marriages for the decline of Parsis when it's been obvious for almost 100 years now that Parsis are not having enough children to sustain their population.
Parsis have a very small presence in india. Let them hold their community together.
Interesting facts
Patao the Gujrati Rana.. nice one Cyrus 🫡
Cyrus needs new tee shirts.
not according to Cyrus. Gift him one if you want to see him in a new tee.
Zorashtrians of India has so many common customs with Hindus .. it is amazing
Like the confused look on Chris's face .
34:43 she is taking about 'dubras' I want to know who is 'dubras'?
There was no RANA....Cyrus whole world clash after hearing that....😆😆😆.....he gonna dance whole night...mujko Rana ji maaf kerna😄😄
Dude! She made me doubt Cyrus is not Parsi. 😭😭😭
Cyrus is a Parsi.
Is your name really after a cough syrup?
@@sugatamukherjee9188 umm,No😅
@@dev_s21 you changed it now 🤣
" I pet dogs for cardio " ,🐶🐶 we get it , change the T for once.
whaddaya mean? Raw dog?
Bring tanmay bhat
The singing voice is very pretty although I can't appreciate it in the podcast the voice is beautiful... These kind of books are the need of the hour it's time we saw change for the better but it's a much needed revolution which might anhilate the current way of life and system. But atleast the falsehood of folklore is guffawable...
Not only parsis but there are Jews too in calcutta
31.16 We should start using original names of Cyrus and Xerxes . The Persian army was far too powerful.
My gf loves ur shrug ma'am.
Does he let his guest speak without interfering?
no
Dear Cyrus, please please let the guest speak. Damn. 😒
Sorry I meant Cyrus
I have just watched the first 30mins of this podcast and I am amazed by the lack of research she has done, I just surfed Internet and I got some evidence which prove that whatever she is saying is not the complete truth.
Firstly The first chemically refined sugar appeared on the scene in India about 2,500 years ago. From there, the technique spread east towards China, and west towards Persia and the early Islamic worlds, eventually reaching the Mediterranean in the 13th century. And I think Parsi came after that
Also she said there is nothing to trace Parsi back to Iran but in the excavation at sanjan they have found blue pottery which was manufactured in Iraq and Siraf in Iran.
Sorry I could not watch the complete because I thought it’s not worth it to watch this half backed research. If the person writing the book was some expert then I would have done the complete analysis
Same, her arguments are all flawed.
Thanks for saving me the trouble of searching for these exact points ! But leaving early I hope you didn’t miss the part where she says Parsi lineage can’t be traced because they didn’t come with passports 😅
Any D.P.Y.A alumni here?
Please invite U-tuber Dhruv Rathee and author Sobers Rodrigues on your next podcast.
Why? Don’t waste time on “Mr. Copy of Wikipedia” a.k.a. Rathee 😊
Dhruv rathee is a joke
@@vidt999only to bhakths
@@arshaq4200 Only dumb ppl or aaptards follow that joke
Dhru Rathee, Why....there are way better people to invite....He is fake
👍👍
Humko Ranaji maaf karna, galti maare se ho gayi
No religious hierarchy like Hindus. Parsis seem to have picked up from their Indian neighbours 😂😂 16:04
hello
Let them speak cyrus
JRD's mother was converted,, so that means one can get converted into Parsi faith? we thought you had to be born Parsi? is that not true
She was converted. You can see the Parsi Marriage Certificate in my book Who is a PARSI? Only a Parsi can marry a Parsi under our Parsi Marriage Act
@@prochymehta1179 SO can a Non Parsi convert without being married to a Parsi just like in other religions?
Omg Cyrus, I know this is against your personality and you cant let go off a mike but let the guest speak especially on more serious tooics...
PARSEES ARE NOT FROM IRAN BUT EGYPT AND SUDAN WHICH WAS ONCE EXTENSIVELY POPULATED BY ZOROASTRIANS WHOSE TEMPLES WERE WIDESPREAD..........IRANEES ARE FROM IRAN........PARS IS ACTUALLY THE NILE VALLEY AND SUDAN
"PARS"; BEHISTUN ROCK inscription in cuneiform script translated as at the Astodan (sarcophagus) of DARIUS old persain (Daraya-vehush) at Naqshe-Rustum in IRAN;
PARSA, PARSAHYA PUTRA; ARIYA, ARIYA CHITRA; translated as; "PARSI; son of a PARSI;
An ARYAN, having ARYAN lineage.
No not all religion wants to convert Hinduism for a long time till recent didn't accepted conversions the reason why Sonia Gandhi was not allowed to enter pashupati Nath temple as she was not a born Hindu , same goes for Jagannath temple this whole Arya Samaj and Iscon happened later who said if otye rpeople can convert us wjy can't we and hare Krishna and Krishna consciousness took place , even back in mufhal rule or before when people were captured in wars and they surrenders and submitted they were not accepted back , in rajputs you will find rangers it was name give to rajputs who were captured or surrendered in war theyvwanted to come back to rajpit community but we had eigid system and so they have to follow Islam.
This community is fun loving so don't understand y there's insecurity on giving girls their right,,chill parsis will remain mainly c9z of their jovial nature
Cfbr
The host is speaking unparliamentary language 😮
😠 Extremely RUDE and ignorant HOST. ONE SHOULD NEVER MAKE FUN OUT OF SOMEONES HISTORY. SHAME.!