4:41 This happened in the late eighties, under Denny O'Neil's pen. The Riddler hijacked a bus that The Question happened to be riding on. The Riddler played a game where anyone who wanted to leave had to answer a riddle, and if they got it right they could go free but if they got it wrong they died. The Question defeated him by answering his riddles with Buddhist koans and causing him to have an existential crisis.
I’ve long supported Poison Ivy as a Wonder Woman villain, and would like to add Maxie Zeus to the list. He comes across as a bigger joke than usual with Batman, but in a Wonder Woman setting his ‘delusions’ about the Greek gods suddenly have some traction. And even if he’s not actually Zeus, Diana’s very existence would exacerbate his madness and galvanize him to new heights that Batman never did.
@@mayotango1317 Thank you, but I don't see their similarities in background, motives, or abilities. I think Maxie Zeus would challenge Diana in a theological as well as psychological fashion, a delusional fan who'd push for her to be the deity she's 'meant to be' instead of 'just' a hero, all the better to help him with his own apotheosis. It's actually similar to how Elijah Price's role in "Unbreakable" turned out for poor David Dunn, come to think of it.
I actually think Maxi would be more interesting as a Flash (maybe Jay Garrick) villain because both of them are not greek gods but nobone just could resemble a greek gods more than the Flash resembles Hermes.
I freaking love this concept. Reminds me of a comic where Green Arrow is tasked in escorting Parasite to prison because he's one of the few non-powered JL members. Insane crossover that somehow works
For Plastic Man and Lobo, I imagine there would just be a very petty inciting incident that escalates completely out of proportion. Like, they’re both at a bar competing for the bartender’s attention because they each want their drink first, and that becomes a fight that destroys the city. I also imagine a conversation where Lobo learns Plastic Man is a reformed criminal, and that leads to a friendly argument over whether being a hero or a villain is more fun. They would settle this bet by spending one full day fighting crime together (maybe even dressed as Batman and Robin) followed by one full day committing crimes together.
Yeah, the Central City Rogues don't play around with that psycho-bullcrap. At the very least, Trickster is very protective of his niche as the 'funny foe'.
I think you're overlooking a major character flaw when it comes to a Flash vs. Joker fight. Batman's villains are mentally fixated on him, so a fight with anybody else would basically involve the Joker doing whatever he could to draw Batman's attention. As for the Flash, unlike the Trinity, Barry is a part of the Satellite League who openly wonders why Batman hasn't killed him yet. If it came down to it, Barry just might do it. If he could kill Thawne without any remorse for killing Iris, I can only imagine what he would do if the Joker was causing major damage in Central City.
Raven vs Sinestro. Aesthetically it would be a pleasing fight (yellow and purple are contrasting colors on the color spectrum) but Raven's fear would, if manifest, probably doom Sinestro to Trigon's wrath or at least a part of it should it be turned back on him. Making a harbinger of fear feel her fear would be incredibly satisfying. I would also like to hear Sinestro throw shade at the green lanterns during their fight and Raven retorts with how she knows green is the color of an unyielding will, which would just her thinking about Beast Boy's numerous attempts of asking her to date him. I'm not saying Raven should be a green lantern, but her drawing on those memories of someone she cares about who happens to be green to help her defeat Sinestro and overcome fear would be neat. Also Plastic Man vs Lobo. Why? It would be the funniest fight in DC.
I think a fight between Parasite and Shazam would be pretty interesting. Let’s say Parasite grows bored of feasting on Superman’s energy and decides to broaden his tastes. This leads him to Shazam and in a surprise attack, Parasite not only absorbs Shazam’s power but also gains the knowledge of his secret identity. Parasite has been depicted as scary in the past but he’d be terrifying in the eyes of a child.
I remember reading about Cyborg Superman fighting Green Lantern. I thought it was weird because “That’s a Superman villain.” But it was well put together.
Straight away a brilliant idea, Ivy going to live with the amazons could be amazing, you could do so much maybe a god like gaia or demeter manipulates her or are doing something and the amazons accuse Ivy.
I consider interesting that villains of other heroes fight other heroes because come on is a interconnected universe, villains most be curious to fight other heroes of a team where his or her greatest enemy is on a team made to end their crime lives being the Justice league. Like Joker usually is thinking to fight other heroes just because he thinks it will be funny to ruin the lives of Batman’s friends. Also because villains have the legion of doom who are made to end the justice league and the fight other heroes aside of their arch enemies.
While agree makes more sense when characters like Batman Superman and Green arrow mostly protect One City although when you're the flash every city is pretty much as close as you can see
Batman actually JUST faced Vandal Savage two arcs ago. It was during the Gotham War. He’s now the head of the GCPD; I can only imagine what chaos he’ll cause.
If Savage is the head of the GCPD that would be unusual. Savage usually operates behind the scenes to avoid putting himself in danger, making himself the power behind the throne rather than sitting on the throne himself. This is because although Savage is immortal he is what I call realistically immortal, which means that he won't die of old age. However, he is vulnerable to death due to illness, poisoning and/or injury. He might be able to heal quickly, but if the injury is severe enough (such as being decapitated) he can die.
Great video Man! If you ever think about a second video like this I've got some suggestions... Superman vs Atrocitous. Martian Manhunter vs Scarecrow. Wonder Woman vs Sinestro. The Flash vs Black Manta. Batman vs Cheetah. Green Lantern vs Lex Luthor. Green Arrow vs Black Mask. Cyborg vs Gorilla Grodd. Aquaman vs Heat Wave.
I also have an idea Batman vs Pied Piper Superman vs Mister Mind Wonder Woman vs Sinestro Aquaman vs Penguin The Flash vs Lex Luther Green Lantern vs Angle Man Shazam vs Bizarro Superman Black Lightning vs Mad Hatter What are your thoughts on these picks?
@@Leosfandom12398how about Martian Manhunter vs King Kull Superman vs the Penguin Batman vs the Golden Glider and the Turtle Hawkgirl vs Killer Croc Aquaman vs Lionmane Wonder Woman vs Ra’s al ghoul Green lantern vs the Shadow thief
2:59 Fun fact this actually happened recently with Wally West. Joker though Central City would be easy pickings for a gas bomb attack. Wally ran in there, dealt with the gas, and threw Joker back to Gotham within seconds. Ever since the villains of Gotham have been terrified of the Flash. There is some more fun stuff about Gotham and Flash in the comics, but I don't want to spoil the whole thing cause it's a fun read. It's part of Wally West main Flash run that I believe is still being worked on. Edit: You put some of the panels in the video. This is why we watch before we comment lol.
Some ideas for another video like this: Static vs Livewire. Electric fight Doctor Fate vs Lex Luther. See if Lex can think his way into beating magic Nightwing vs Bane. Dick has the face one of the villains who has beaten Batman to really see if he’s better than Bruce Red Hood vs Peacemaker. A reformed Red Hood facing a guy who believes in what he used to. Can Jason stop him without killing him? Wonder Woman vs Blackfire. At some point while Diana was in Man’s world, Blackfire arrived in Themyscira and has taken it over. Now Diana has to beat an alien from a warrior culture like hers with access to her own faction of Amazons
"Hellblazer" John Constantine vs. Nekron would really dig deeply into Constantine's Character. "Green Arrow" Oliver Queen vs. "Deathstroke" Slade Wilson is a Classic. Black Canary vs. Star Sapphire would be fascinating.
15:13 a good storyline for Plastic Man vs. Lobo could be someone puts a bounty on Plastic Man and Lobo try’s many times to take him out for a payday, but it’s a really hard mission and he can’t kill Plastic Man because his powers. Maybe Mr. Terrific helps Plastic Man out and agrees to give Lobo money to take out the person who put the bounty on Patrick, so they decide to team up and take on that individual. It could really give the two a challenge.
Excellent video. Some fights I'd recommend: Aquaman vs. Chemo: Chemo is a Metal Men villain who migrated to also be a minor Superman villain. The conflict between Aquaman and Chemo is that Chemo is a living collection of toxic chemicals who has no concern for people and enjoys causing death and destruction. He'd be able to poison the Ocean's waters and kill many people, just like he did Aquagirl. Also, he can be dispersed but he can't be killed and will eventually restore himself. P. S. Chemo would also be a good opponent for Swamp Thing for the same reason. Concerning Batman vs. Vandal Savage: Although Savage is immortal, one motive for Savage is to restore his body. While he can heal, it can take a long time for complicated parts like an eye. To quickly repair the damage he takes replacement parts (such as an eye) from his descendants who are biological related to him. He keeps a database of everyone related to him so he can harvest body parts from them when he needs. One of them was Lian, the daughter of Arsenal. The conflict between Batman and Savage could be due to Batman finding several corpses with missing body parts in Gotham City and he determines that they were farmed by Savage.
Great matchups. I think Joker vs Brainiac would be a great story. I know they're both villains, but the Joker marches to his own beat and does whatever he want to whomever he wants. Especially if he can gain the advantage and use it to benefit his objective, whatever it is at the time.
Lex: Fool, you're just like all the rest. Building a suit to save the world, trying to play God. Let me tell you something Stark! There's only one man in the world that's fit to play such a role! *ME* Tony: Being a god can't be too hard. I mean, I'm the most intelligent capable person on the planet. I'm not playing God. All this time... I've been playing human.
Thought that there was this whole tribes of the birds vs tribes of the bats thing recently with Hawkman/Batman. That would be a good launching point for Hawkman vs Man-Bat.
Maybe you could have a story where the justice league are going off and into space and you could have a one shot where B & C list heroes have to deal with the super villains who would often rival the core justice league members. You could have the question go up against the Riddler, who has been preparing a plot to take on Batman for the last few months, which is completely derailed. By the fact the Cape Crusader isn’t in Gotham anymore. or you could have someone like Metallo go up against plastic man who is disguised himself as Superman and then Metallo is frustrated when his kryptonite weapons are doing anything to him until plastic man finally reveals himself as an imposter
The was the whole idea of "52." It showed a world without Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman for 1 years. During that year other heroes stepped up to take the place of the Big Three.
Honestly Wonder Woman could REALLY benefit from an infusion of under performing villains into her Rogues Gallery My personal choices for the draft are: King Shark Count Vertigo Lady Shiva The Shade Manchester Black Bloodwork (Flash villain) Abra Kadabra Divine (PG clone) Gentleman Ghost Silver Banshee (Jeannette)
Some match ups I’d like to see Wonder Woman Vs Gorilla Grodd Nightwing Vs Captain Cold Flash Vs Cheetah Question Vs Professor Pyg Black Canary Vs Lady Shiva Aquaman Vs Poison Ivy
Guy Gardner vs Lobo - The recent issues of Green Lantern have a back-up(that's a loose tie-in for a Superman event, House of Brainiac) have Guy on the hunt for Lobo but it wasn't Lobo he found, instead it was a random Czarnian(apparently Brainiac had a city full of them in his colection and he now decided to let them out). The back-ups were ok, but I feel cheated I wanted to see that fight. Batman vs Tarpit - Tarpit the flaming asphalt monster, he is one Flash's rogues. He'd make a good excuse to force Batman to team up with the most tragic ice villian, Mr Freeze. Nightshade vs Dr. Light - One has shadow powers, the other light powers. That's as far as the thought process went. Idk about Light, but Nightshade is a super-spy and a skilled martial artist. Martian Manhunter vs the Suit - Another Flash villian, this one is a living evil super-suit that can posses it's wearer(kind of like a ghost). It would be battle on two fronts, in the outside world with heroes fighting the possesed Martian Manhunter and inside his mind where he tries to break free. The Justice Society of America vs Darkseid - Curious to see how the JSA deals with him
Spiderman make the spiderman ps4 game canon to the Arkham games, In comics My little pony The magic of Friendship trying to reform all the Villains in DC would be funny
Back when the first Marvel animated series, The Marvel Superheroes 1967, was first broadcast I was surprised to find out that Marvel heroes would often fight characters that were associated with other heroes. Before that I was only familiar with DC characters who rarely interacted with other heroes enemies. I'm 70 years old so I'm very familiar with Silver Age DC comics.
So you're trying to re-villianize Ivy? Because as far as I know, she mostly hasn't been like that in years. Though, with how much DC reboots, it's not like I'm against the idea. But I definitely prefer the Ivy who kind of accept humanity as part of nature, and grumbles about how destructive we are, but doesn't try to wipe us out. So if we're doing evil Ivy vs WW, I'd want it to be a bit earlier in a version of her, before she mellows out. So after one of the annual reboots lmao. As for Vandal Savage vs Batman, I'm not super interest because he's just Ra's, imo... BUT VS vs Batman AND Ra's? Now you've got my attention. Also, Raven vs Black Adam just sounds cool. And because heroes always fight when they first meet, we can have a cameo fight against Shazam, too. Now idk how we write Shazam out... maybe Raven was opening a portal to Hell and Black Adam tackles her through it and Shazam just doesn't get to it in time? Feels like a bit of a cop-out but gotta write him out somehow lol. So whatever. Some of the others are ok, too. Like Scarecrow vs Superman. Could even bring Bruce in to basically pep-talk him back to his sense at the end. Imagine Bruce giving up his secret identity to bring Clark back to his senses, so Superman can beat Scarecrow. (Why doesn't Bruce just beat up Scarecrow? Because then he couldn't repair Clark's psyche, obviously)
How about a sequel to this like Wonder Woman vs Ra’s al ghoul, Green Lantern vs Brainiac, Batman vs the Golden Glider as she is like the Anti Batman, Superman vs the Penguin, Martian Manhunter vs King Kull just to name a few
I think a reallly cool matchup would be Black Manta versus Batman or Wonder Woman If it was Batman, they could have a really cool dynamic where they’re both super powerless beings, but their weapons and intelligence make them almost equals (having lost both parents, but growing up learning skills and acquiring knowledge) If it was Wonder Woman, there could be some manipulating of magic artifacts that makes Manta equally as powerful as Wonder Woman. Maybe this leads to her training harder and continually being beaten by Manta, only for Diana to be taught a lesson from Flash or Robin or someone who has a completely opposite approach to battle than her. She learns to let go a little bit, which in turn leads to Manta’s focus being challenged and she takes back the magic artifact and subdues Manta. I think either of these battles would be awesome!
9:00 si yo pensaba una historia para una película de la justice league en dónde vandal salvaje le pide a Bruce que se unan para acabar con todos los meta humanos del mundo
Honestly i think both Marvel and DC would benefit from having stories where heroes fight villains that aren't in their rogues gallery. Especially smaller heroes (like The Question) who pretty much have no rogues gallery. So many characters' stories suffer from lack of an interesting villain. So instead of creating a new one, which can be hit or miss, why not mix match villains instead of using the same villains over and over again? As long as the mix-matching doesnt become gimmicky and the crossover makes sense, it could open doors to loads of new interesting stories, taking advantage of the large Marvel and DC universes
How About A Storyline Where Wonder Woman And Steve Trevor Fight The Secret Society Of Supervillains Consisting Of Veronica Cale, Ares, Cheetah, Max Lord, Poison Ivy, Giganta, Parasite, Clayface, Rag Doll, Mad Hatter, Dr. Cyber, Angle Man, Maxie Zeus, Talon, Clock King, Star Sapphire, Firefly, Scarecrow, Dr. Poison, Bizarro, Volcanna, Dr. Polaris, Killer Moth, Ratcatcher, Weather Wizard, Pied Piper, Shade, Chemo, Music Meister, Gentleman Ghost, Medusa, Terra-Man, Minotaur, Heat Wave, Mirror Master, Chronos, Sportsmaster, Blockbuster, Effegy, Icicle, Eel, Onomatopoeia, Brick, Dr. Trap, Killer Croc, Toyman, Klarion, Calendar Man, Egghead, Black Manta, Kite Man, Dr. Light, Professor Pyg, Anarky, Copperhead And Killer Frost
I know this is off-topic but I just want to know: Who would be the first ideal supervillain for SUPERMAN? • And by “supervillain” I meant one with powers that are equal and/or greater than Superman’s. I imagine this villain would be his greatest challenge in his early career as Metropolis’ first superhero. That villain would (indirectly)force Superman to think outside the box and use his powers and abilities more properly and in the most creative and imaginative way possible.
I liked the line in silver age when he first fought Monglo I threw everything I had at him and he is still standing that has never happened before. In that story Monglo was the first guy that could snug off supermans hits
I have and interesting Mach: Metamorpho vs Black Adam, think about it, both have Egyptian origins right? And Rex wants to cure his condition after his incident with the orb or Ra right? So my story would go that Rex discovers Teh Adam and his country and he thinks: “mmh? He had magical powers like me, and there are Egyptian ones too, so maybe he can help me cure my condition. But he soon discovers that Khandaq is rule in iron fist by his supposed savior that happens to be a tyrant, so he decides to use his abilities to end his rule of terror by using his powers and accept his appearance and powers seen who many good he can do with it and became more of a hero.
Hey I wanted to clarify something from the Lex Luthor hot takes video. I realized that you used my comment in the wrong context but that’s my fault. Should have explained it better. I said that I didn’t like the Luthor for president campaign when I really meant I didn’t like the entire story arc. Just found it boring. Which is odd cuz I love the comic where Fisk became mayor of New York Edit: about this video I was really disappointed with that canceled fourth Arkham game and one of the many reasons is that Grodd was supposed to be in it. I’d have loved to see that.
Poison ivy and wonder woman works the way ww and cheetah works. Wonder woman is made from pure ideas of liberation, empowerment, and compassion of humanity which allowed humans to thrive in the nature. She is like the idea of athena, inanna, and statue of liberty with humanity inside. Shes a theacher, a guardian and best humanity can achieve. Whereas Ivy and cheetah are unforgiving, wrathfull and unpredictable like mother nature. They are natural opposites.
@@tyrellmultimedia I mean deadpool and the punisher individually killed the dc universe on their own on two instances. Deathstroke beat flash and multiple other league members based purely on plot induced stupidity and ignoring the abilities of half of them and their capabilities. Like damn, I can write a story where I beat up hulk, goku, and zeus with a paper clip falling from the sky. When we look at "Threats", we don't look at "so joker came in with some guys becuase people voted jason todd to be killed, and together (and harely I assume? She's I believe stronger than joker) beat him and tortured him. Batgirl was just shock factor fr, 12 year old robins can crack jokes while dodging between automatic gunspray from experienced mercenaries, while tripping up said serious mercenaries, with gum balls they throw on the ground, all while training under batman for like a month. At least with people like the punisher it's like "yeah, he's just a very skilled guy who a lot of anger resolve and a lot of time to prep his sniper shots and so forth", but yeah, those batgirl and robin things joker did were done despite conflicting levels of abilities. Joker is mainly a threat cuz he'll jump off a building and while batman tries to save him, he'll stab at him with a knife. Joker can run through swat teams if he has a gun, but that's ultimately nothing in gotham, almost anyone can do that. Meanwhile bane, solomon grundy, ra's al ghul, etc are actual threats to just about anyone in dc.
A joker character that flash faces is the prankster, who is a joker character, but minus the psychopath tendencies. I do like the idea of raven vs Black Adam, however the Superman vs scarecrow I would change that to Green Lantern Vs Scarecrow, since the creator of the fear toxins would be a good choice for the emerald knight of willpower to battle against. I would have seen Shazam fight against one of Superman’s villains namely Livewire, where her electric powers combat against magical lightning. Superman, I can see fighting against Ares the god of war as a battle between two god like beings. The idea of Wonder Woman fighting someone like poison ivy is a good choice, since I can see ivy getting her powers upgraded by either Circe or by being granted more power from Gaia becoming an Amazon plant hybrid. I have an idea for a special crossover between Marvel/DC, you may have probably done this before but how about where some of the justice league members take on some of Spider-Man, X-men and Avengers rogues gallery.
@@prosperotorres7965 Want to know something really confusing? Another unremarkable criminal called 'The Clown' injured Hunter Zolomon and was responsible for starting him down the path to becoming the Flash villain 'Zoom'.
Martian Manhunter and Firefly Flash and Scarecrow Batman and Toyman Wonder woman and Mad Hatter Superman and Hush Green Lantern and Mr Freeze Cyborg and Raas Al Ghul Aquaman and Poison Ivy
That already occurred in "JLA." Luthor formed an Injustice League composed of the arch enemies of the various members of the Justice League. Instead of doing the typical fight, Luthor used the tactics of the Boardroom to take down the Justice League. Batman figured out that they were led by Luthor and he wasn't worried. The reason: Luthor was going up against Bruce Wayne who knows Corporate Tactics better than Luthor does. Bruce Wayne defeated Lex Luthor in that story.
Superman vs Riddler. Have Riddler out to prove his mind is stronger then the strongest man on earth but Superman just breaks all of Riddler's traps without solving them, frustrating Riddler to dangerous levels. Riddler finally gets Superman stuck in a puzzle but Superman shows gets to show his more cerebral side and beats Riddler at his own game.
4:41 This happened in the late eighties, under Denny O'Neil's pen. The Riddler hijacked a bus that The Question happened to be riding on. The Riddler played a game where anyone who wanted to leave had to answer a riddle, and if they got it right they could go free but if they got it wrong they died. The Question defeated him by answering his riddles with Buddhist koans and causing him to have an existential crisis.
I’ve long supported Poison Ivy as a Wonder Woman villain, and would like to add Maxie Zeus to the list. He comes across as a bigger joke than usual with Batman, but in a Wonder Woman setting his ‘delusions’ about the Greek gods suddenly have some traction. And even if he’s not actually Zeus, Diana’s very existence would exacerbate his madness and galvanize him to new heights that Batman never did.
Batman has so many fantastic villains I don't think there's any room for Maxie Zeus. So Wonder Woman would fit for him.
@@mayotango1317 Thank you, but I don't see their similarities in background, motives, or abilities. I think Maxie Zeus would challenge Diana in a theological as well as psychological fashion, a delusional fan who'd push for her to be the deity she's 'meant to be' instead of 'just' a hero, all the better to help him with his own apotheosis.
It's actually similar to how Elijah Price's role in "Unbreakable" turned out for poor David Dunn, come to think of it.
I actually think Maxi would be more interesting as a Flash (maybe Jay Garrick) villain because both of them are not greek gods but nobone just could resemble a greek gods more than the Flash resembles Hermes.
Excellent idea.
I need to see The Question take on The Court of Owls and the corruption in Gotham. Maybe even include Huntress to help fight Talon
Scarecrow gassing Superman is a good way for Mr. Crane to get his ass ripped to shreds lmao 😂
I freaking love this concept. Reminds me of a comic where Green Arrow is tasked in escorting Parasite to prison because he's one of the few non-powered JL members. Insane crossover that somehow works
For Plastic Man and Lobo, I imagine there would just be a very petty inciting incident that escalates completely out of proportion. Like, they’re both at a bar competing for the bartender’s attention because they each want their drink first, and that becomes a fight that destroys the city.
I also imagine a conversation where Lobo learns Plastic Man is a reformed criminal, and that leads to a friendly argument over whether being a hero or a villain is more fun. They would settle this bet by spending one full day fighting crime together (maybe even dressed as Batman and Robin) followed by one full day committing crimes together.
if Joker shows up in Central City the rogues send him home.
Yeah, the Central City Rogues don't play around with that psycho-bullcrap. At the very least, Trickster is very protective of his niche as the 'funny foe'.
I think you're overlooking a major character flaw when it comes to a Flash vs. Joker fight. Batman's villains are mentally fixated on him, so a fight with anybody else would basically involve the Joker doing whatever he could to draw Batman's attention.
As for the Flash, unlike the Trinity, Barry is a part of the Satellite League who openly wonders why Batman hasn't killed him yet. If it came down to it, Barry just might do it. If he could kill Thawne without any remorse for killing Iris, I can only imagine what he would do if the Joker was causing major damage in Central City.
What if they were all in jail that day?
@@WolfRider2002 fair...
Raven vs Sinestro. Aesthetically it would be a pleasing fight (yellow and purple are contrasting colors on the color spectrum) but Raven's fear would, if manifest, probably doom Sinestro to Trigon's wrath or at least a part of it should it be turned back on him. Making a harbinger of fear feel her fear would be incredibly satisfying. I would also like to hear Sinestro throw shade at the green lanterns during their fight and Raven retorts with how she knows green is the color of an unyielding will, which would just her thinking about Beast Boy's numerous attempts of asking her to date him. I'm not saying Raven should be a green lantern, but her drawing on those memories of someone she cares about who happens to be green to help her defeat Sinestro and overcome fear would be neat.
Also Plastic Man vs Lobo. Why? It would be the funniest fight in DC.
I think a fight between Parasite and Shazam would be pretty interesting. Let’s say Parasite grows bored of feasting on Superman’s energy and decides to broaden his tastes. This leads him to Shazam and in a surprise attack, Parasite not only absorbs Shazam’s power but also gains the knowledge of his secret identity. Parasite has been depicted as scary in the past but he’d be terrifying in the eyes of a child.
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I remember reading about Cyborg Superman fighting Green Lantern. I thought it was weird because “That’s a Superman villain.” But it was well put together.
I think he's become more of a Green Lantern villain over the past couple of years.
Straight away a brilliant idea, Ivy going to live with the amazons could be amazing, you could do so much maybe a god like gaia or demeter manipulates her or are doing something and the amazons accuse Ivy.
I consider interesting that villains of other heroes fight other heroes because come on is a interconnected universe, villains most be curious to fight other heroes of a team where his or her greatest enemy is on a team made to end their crime lives being the Justice league. Like Joker usually is thinking to fight other heroes just because he thinks it will be funny to ruin the lives of Batman’s friends. Also because villains have the legion of doom who are made to end the justice league and the fight other heroes aside of their arch enemies.
While agree makes more sense when characters like Batman Superman and Green arrow mostly protect One City although when you're the flash every city is pretty much as close as you can see
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Batman actually JUST faced Vandal Savage two arcs ago. It was during the Gotham War. He’s now the head of the GCPD; I can only imagine what chaos he’ll cause.
Vandal is currently in charge of the GCPD?? I'm a little behind where they currently are lol
If Savage is the head of the GCPD that would be unusual. Savage usually operates behind the scenes to avoid putting himself in danger, making himself the power behind the throne rather than sitting on the throne himself. This is because although Savage is immortal he is what I call realistically immortal, which means that he won't die of old age. However, he is vulnerable to death due to illness, poisoning and/or injury. He might be able to heal quickly, but if the injury is severe enough (such as being decapitated) he can die.
@@Solitaire001 Yeah, he’s head of the GCPD right now. It’s a pretty cool development for Gotham.
Great video Man!
If you ever think about a second video like this I've got some suggestions...
Superman vs Atrocitous.
Martian Manhunter vs Scarecrow.
Wonder Woman vs Sinestro.
The Flash vs Black Manta.
Batman vs Cheetah.
Green Lantern vs Lex Luthor.
Green Arrow vs Black Mask.
Cyborg vs Gorilla Grodd.
Aquaman vs Heat Wave.
I also have an idea
Batman vs Pied Piper
Superman vs Mister Mind
Wonder Woman vs Sinestro
Aquaman vs Penguin
The Flash vs Lex Luther
Green Lantern vs Angle Man
Shazam vs Bizarro Superman
Black Lightning vs Mad Hatter
What are your thoughts on these picks?
@@Leosfandom12398how about Martian Manhunter vs King Kull
Superman vs the Penguin
Batman vs the Golden Glider and the Turtle
Hawkgirl vs Killer Croc
Aquaman vs Lionmane
Wonder Woman vs Ra’s al ghoul
Green lantern vs the Shadow thief
They already did a story where Superman confronts Joker (outside Injustice). Short version: Superman roasts and humiliates the Joker the whole time.
2:59 Fun fact this actually happened recently with Wally West. Joker though Central City would be easy pickings for a gas bomb attack. Wally ran in there, dealt with the gas, and threw Joker back to Gotham within seconds. Ever since the villains of Gotham have been terrified of the Flash.
There is some more fun stuff about Gotham and Flash in the comics, but I don't want to spoil the whole thing cause it's a fun read. It's part of Wally West main Flash run that I believe is still being worked on.
Edit: You put some of the panels in the video. This is why we watch before we comment lol.
Batman villains aren’t terrified of flash he just would make their plans harder to pull off
@@random_comment_guy4607 No they are literally terrified in the comic
@@jeremymorris345 those weren’t Batman’s villains though
@@random_comment_guy4607 It was literally the Joker and villains from Gotham...
@@jeremymorris345 what was the comic called and I’ll check it out
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But they seem a little pricey
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Green Lantern vs. Scarecrow should be a canon rivalry imo
Some ideas for another video like this:
Static vs Livewire. Electric fight
Doctor Fate vs Lex Luther. See if Lex can think his way into beating magic
Nightwing vs Bane. Dick has the face one of the villains who has beaten Batman to really see if he’s better than Bruce
Red Hood vs Peacemaker. A reformed Red Hood facing a guy who believes in what he used to. Can Jason stop him without killing him?
Wonder Woman vs Blackfire. At some point while Diana was in Man’s world, Blackfire arrived in Themyscira and has taken it over. Now Diana has to beat an alien from a warrior culture like hers with access to her own faction of Amazons
"Hellblazer" John Constantine vs. Nekron would really dig deeply into Constantine's Character. "Green Arrow" Oliver Queen vs. "Deathstroke" Slade Wilson is a Classic. Black Canary vs. Star Sapphire would be fascinating.
15:13 a good storyline for Plastic Man vs. Lobo could be someone puts a bounty on Plastic Man and Lobo try’s many times to take him out for a payday, but it’s a really hard mission and he can’t kill Plastic Man because his powers. Maybe Mr. Terrific helps Plastic Man out and agrees to give Lobo money to take out the person who put the bounty on Patrick, so they decide to team up and take on that individual. It could really give the two a challenge.
The Flash kinda has his own Joker with Trickster. Nevertheless, I'd love to see the Flash vs Joker
Feel like Joker is deadlier tho
@@Z.200 100% true
Flash would eat the joker
The question, id imagine, would straight up start throwing slurs at the Riddler the second he saw him. And im here for that
Excellent video. Some fights I'd recommend:
Aquaman vs. Chemo: Chemo is a Metal Men villain who migrated to also be a minor Superman villain. The conflict between Aquaman and Chemo is that Chemo is a living collection of toxic chemicals who has no concern for people and enjoys causing death and destruction. He'd be able to poison the Ocean's waters and kill many people, just like he did Aquagirl. Also, he can be dispersed but he can't be killed and will eventually restore himself. P. S. Chemo would also be a good opponent for Swamp Thing for the same reason.
Concerning Batman vs. Vandal Savage: Although Savage is immortal, one motive for Savage is to restore his body. While he can heal, it can take a long time for complicated parts like an eye. To quickly repair the damage he takes replacement parts (such as an eye) from his descendants who are biological related to him. He keeps a database of everyone related to him so he can harvest body parts from them when he needs. One of them was Lian, the daughter of Arsenal. The conflict between Batman and Savage could be due to Batman finding several corpses with missing body parts in Gotham City and he determines that they were farmed by Savage.
Great matchups. I think Joker vs Brainiac would be a great story. I know they're both villains, but the Joker marches to his own beat and does whatever he want to whomever he wants. Especially if he can gain the advantage and use it to benefit his objective, whatever it is at the time.
1:01 i like this comic poison ivy outfit
Casual Comics brought up some rogue transplant ideas, such as Shazam vs. Livewire and Hal Jordan vs. Roxy Rocket
Lex Luthor vs Tony Stark would be an interesting match up for a DC villains vs Marvel superheroes video.
Lex: Fool, you're just like all the rest. Building a suit to save the world, trying to play God. Let me tell you something Stark! There's only one man in the world that's fit to play such a role! *ME*
Tony: Being a god can't be too hard. I mean, I'm the most intelligent capable person on the planet. I'm not playing God. All this time... I've been playing human.
@@dippin4dotsdeath battle refrence spotted (#saveDeathBattle
Plastic Man and Lobo would become buds lmao.
Hey hey ....keep up the great videos
I sure will!
6:55 we see this fight in DCAU They fight for a short time but it's very well animated and fun
Thought that there was this whole tribes of the birds vs tribes of the bats thing recently with Hawkman/Batman. That would be a good launching point for Hawkman vs Man-Bat.
Question vs Riddler Great Idea
Also Question against the Falcones
Thank you for pronouncing it Raz instead of Raysh. Raz sounds so much better
Couldn't agree more!
Maybe you could have a story where the justice league are going off and into space and you could have a one shot where B & C list heroes have to deal with the super villains who would often rival the core justice league members.
You could have the question go up against the Riddler, who has been preparing a plot to take on Batman for the last few months, which is completely derailed. By the fact the Cape Crusader isn’t in Gotham anymore. or you could have someone like Metallo go up against plastic man who is disguised himself as Superman and then Metallo is frustrated when his kryptonite weapons are doing anything to him until plastic man finally reveals himself as an imposter
The was the whole idea of "52." It showed a world without Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman for 1 years. During that year other heroes stepped up to take the place of the Big Three.
Flash vs Cheetah & Wonder Woman vs Zoom. Which they actually did during a crossover in the early 2000s both written by Geoff Johns and Greg Rucka.
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That's awesome! I'm glad to have you here for the journey!
I would love to see Rampage fighting wonder woman
I think it would be a cool concept if they were to say that vandal savage held the title of RA’s Al Ghul before RA’s was and such
Honestly Wonder Woman could REALLY benefit from an infusion of under performing villains into her Rogues Gallery
My personal choices for the draft are:
King Shark
Count Vertigo
Lady Shiva
The Shade
Manchester Black
Bloodwork (Flash villain)
Abra Kadabra
Divine (PG clone)
Gentleman Ghost
Silver Banshee (Jeannette)
Some match ups I’d like to see
Wonder Woman Vs Gorilla Grodd
Nightwing Vs Captain Cold
Flash Vs Cheetah
Question Vs Professor Pyg
Black Canary Vs Lady Shiva
Aquaman Vs Poison Ivy
Guy Gardner vs Lobo - The recent issues of Green Lantern have a back-up(that's a loose tie-in for a Superman event, House of Brainiac) have Guy on the hunt for Lobo but it wasn't Lobo he found, instead it was a random Czarnian(apparently Brainiac had a city full of them in his colection and he now decided to let them out). The back-ups were ok, but I feel cheated I wanted to see that fight.
Batman vs Tarpit - Tarpit the flaming asphalt monster, he is one Flash's rogues. He'd make a good excuse to force Batman to team up with the most tragic ice villian, Mr Freeze.
Nightshade vs Dr. Light - One has shadow powers, the other light powers. That's as far as the thought process went. Idk about Light, but Nightshade is a super-spy and a skilled martial artist.
Martian Manhunter vs the Suit - Another Flash villian, this one is a living evil super-suit that can posses it's wearer(kind of like a ghost). It would be battle on two fronts, in the outside world with heroes fighting the possesed Martian Manhunter and inside his mind where he tries to break free.
The Justice Society of America vs Darkseid - Curious to see how the JSA deals with him
I would say, that we got enough batman vs vandal savage in the last ten years. Vandal onwed wayne manor and the batcave.
Plastic Man and Lobo would have a dynamic pretty similar to that of Deadpool and Wolverine
For Flash, Puzzle master or Clock King would be a fun match. Maybe they would take it as a challenge to out speed Flash
Could have Vandal Savage be one of Bruce’s ancestors
PS if you could have 3️⃣ DC crossover books, games, movies whatever with any property what would they be?
Spiderman make the spiderman ps4 game canon to the Arkham games, In comics My little pony The magic of Friendship trying to reform all the Villains in DC would be funny
Back when the first Marvel animated series, The Marvel Superheroes 1967, was first broadcast I was surprised to find out that Marvel heroes would often fight characters that were associated with other heroes. Before that I was only familiar with DC characters who rarely interacted with other heroes enemies. I'm 70 years old so I'm very familiar with Silver Age DC comics.
So you're trying to re-villianize Ivy? Because as far as I know, she mostly hasn't been like that in years. Though, with how much DC reboots, it's not like I'm against the idea. But I definitely prefer the Ivy who kind of accept humanity as part of nature, and grumbles about how destructive we are, but doesn't try to wipe us out. So if we're doing evil Ivy vs WW, I'd want it to be a bit earlier in a version of her, before she mellows out. So after one of the annual reboots lmao.
As for Vandal Savage vs Batman, I'm not super interest because he's just Ra's, imo... BUT VS vs Batman AND Ra's? Now you've got my attention.
Also, Raven vs Black Adam just sounds cool. And because heroes always fight when they first meet, we can have a cameo fight against Shazam, too. Now idk how we write Shazam out... maybe Raven was opening a portal to Hell and Black Adam tackles her through it and Shazam just doesn't get to it in time? Feels like a bit of a cop-out but gotta write him out somehow lol. So whatever.
Some of the others are ok, too. Like Scarecrow vs Superman. Could even bring Bruce in to basically pep-talk him back to his sense at the end. Imagine Bruce giving up his secret identity to bring Clark back to his senses, so Superman can beat Scarecrow. (Why doesn't Bruce just beat up Scarecrow? Because then he couldn't repair Clark's psyche, obviously)
How about a sequel to this like Wonder Woman vs Ra’s al ghoul, Green Lantern vs Brainiac, Batman vs the Golden Glider as she is like the Anti Batman, Superman vs the Penguin, Martian Manhunter vs King Kull just to name a few
How do you think superman vs the penguin story is going to be?
@@olijakupjohannessen6919well I guess he would have a Kryptonite in his umbrella which would give him a fair fight
Doctor Fate vs Darkseid for a battle of the ages
I think a reallly cool matchup would be Black Manta versus Batman or Wonder Woman
If it was Batman, they could have a really cool dynamic where they’re both super powerless beings, but their weapons and intelligence make them almost equals (having lost both parents, but growing up learning skills and acquiring knowledge)
If it was Wonder Woman, there could be some manipulating of magic artifacts that makes Manta equally as powerful as Wonder Woman. Maybe this leads to her training harder and continually being beaten by Manta, only for Diana to be taught a lesson from Flash or Robin or someone who has a completely opposite approach to battle than her. She learns to let go a little bit, which in turn leads to Manta’s focus being challenged and she takes back the magic artifact and subdues Manta.
I think either of these battles would be awesome!
Who would be the Avengers’ Legion of Doom?
- Doom
- Osborn
- Magneto
- Abomination
- Red Skull
- The Mandarin
- The Enchantress
- Loki
- Doc Ock
- Arnim Zola
- Sabretooth
- Mystique
And so many others!
@@suryasingh9738what about Zemo?
@@srstriker6420 Sure, why not?
Honestly it's so upsetting that Legion of Doom is a DC name and isn't a name for Dr. Doom's villain group or something XD
Magneto on the same team as red skull and zemo?? Hell naw he wont stand for it..
9:00 si yo pensaba una historia para una película de la justice league en dónde vandal salvaje le pide a Bruce que se unan para acabar con todos los meta humanos del mundo
Superman Vs:
1. The Joker
2. Poison Ivy
3. Baby Doll
4. Mirror Master
Batman Vs:
1. Lex Luthor
2. Sinestro
3. Ares
3. Wonder Woman Vs:
1. Mongul
2. Black Adam
3. The Floronic Man
4. Mr. Mxyzptlk
Aquaman:
1. Poison Ivy
2. Mr. Mxyzptlk
Martian Manhunter Vs:
1. Despero
Doctor Fate Vs:
1. Darkseid
5. Constantine Vs:
1. LOBO
Honestly i think both Marvel and DC would benefit from having stories where heroes fight villains that aren't in their rogues gallery. Especially smaller heroes (like The Question) who pretty much have no rogues gallery. So many characters' stories suffer from lack of an interesting villain. So instead of creating a new one, which can be hit or miss, why not mix match villains instead of using the same villains over and over again? As long as the mix-matching doesnt become gimmicky and the crossover makes sense, it could open doors to loads of new interesting stories, taking advantage of the large Marvel and DC universes
So like a dc version of acts of vengance
I always say Killer Frost would be a great Superman villain
Manhunter vs Clayface was done in the DC Spring Breakout from this year !!
and an episode of jusice league: Secret Society
Did it deliver? Was it good?
@tyrellmultimedia the comic was actually entertaining; went into the pair having to act, and how ultimately manhunter is a better actor
How About Aquaman And Mera Vs Black Manta And Killer Croc
I'll do you one better, how about Aquaman and Mera Vs King Shark and Killer Frost
Scarecrow could face Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash, nearly anyone...
How About A Storyline Where Wonder Woman And Steve Trevor Fight The Secret Society Of Supervillains Consisting Of Veronica Cale, Ares, Cheetah, Max Lord, Poison Ivy, Giganta, Parasite, Clayface, Rag Doll, Mad Hatter, Dr. Cyber, Angle Man, Maxie Zeus, Talon, Clock King, Star Sapphire, Firefly, Scarecrow, Dr. Poison, Bizarro, Volcanna, Dr. Polaris, Killer Moth, Ratcatcher, Weather Wizard, Pied Piper, Shade, Chemo, Music Meister, Gentleman Ghost, Medusa, Terra-Man, Minotaur, Heat Wave, Mirror Master, Chronos, Sportsmaster, Blockbuster, Effegy, Icicle, Eel, Onomatopoeia, Brick, Dr. Trap, Killer Croc, Toyman, Klarion, Calendar Man, Egghead, Black Manta, Kite Man, Dr. Light, Professor Pyg, Anarky, Copperhead And Killer Frost
How tf will the the 2 of them be able to take out all of these villains ?
@@shaanwayne815 It Will Be Just The Two Of Them Versus The Hundred Supervillains
What about Superman vs atrocitus
I know this is off-topic but I just want to know:
Who would be the first ideal supervillain for SUPERMAN?
• And by “supervillain” I meant one with powers that are equal and/or greater than Superman’s. I imagine this villain would be his greatest challenge in his early career as Metropolis’ first superhero. That villain would (indirectly)force Superman to think outside the box and use his powers and abilities more properly and in the most creative and imaginative way possible.
I liked the line in silver age when he first fought Monglo I threw everything I had at him and he is still standing that has never happened before. In that story Monglo was the first guy that could snug off supermans hits
I have and interesting Mach: Metamorpho vs Black Adam, think about it, both have Egyptian origins right? And Rex wants to cure his condition after his incident with the orb or Ra right? So my story would go that Rex discovers Teh Adam and his country and he thinks: “mmh? He had magical powers like me, and there are Egyptian ones too, so maybe he can help me cure my condition. But he soon discovers that Khandaq is rule in iron fist by his supposed savior that happens to be a tyrant, so he decides to use his abilities to end his rule of terror by using his powers and accept his appearance and powers seen who many good he can do with it and became more of a hero.
Hey I wanted to clarify something from the Lex Luthor hot takes video. I realized that you used my comment in the wrong context but that’s my fault. Should have explained it better. I said that I didn’t like the Luthor for president campaign when I really meant I didn’t like the entire story arc. Just found it boring. Which is odd cuz I love the comic where Fisk became mayor of New York
Edit: about this video I was really disappointed with that canceled fourth Arkham game and one of the many reasons is that Grodd was supposed to be in it. I’d have loved to see that.
Poison ivy and wonder woman works the way ww and cheetah works. Wonder woman is made from pure ideas of liberation, empowerment, and compassion of humanity which allowed humans to thrive in the nature. She is like the idea of athena, inanna, and statue of liberty with humanity inside. Shes a theacher, a guardian and best humanity can achieve. Whereas Ivy and cheetah are unforgiving, wrathfull and unpredictable like mother nature. They are natural opposites.
I would like to see a Marvel heroes version of this
Spectre and Joker
Joker isn’t a threat to Batman, he’s a threat to regular people and Batman stops him from doing stuff to others. Joker is no bane or raz al ghul
He's definitely not written that way though. He's paralyzed Batgirl and killed Robin. I think he'd be on of my biggest threats at that point.
@@tyrellmultimedia I mean deadpool and the punisher individually killed the dc universe on their own on two instances.
Deathstroke beat flash and multiple other league members based purely on plot induced stupidity and ignoring the abilities of half of them and their capabilities.
Like damn, I can write a story where I beat up hulk, goku, and zeus with a paper clip falling from the sky.
When we look at "Threats", we don't look at "so joker came in with some guys becuase people voted jason todd to be killed, and together (and harely I assume? She's I believe stronger than joker) beat him and tortured him.
Batgirl was just shock factor fr, 12 year old robins can crack jokes while dodging between automatic gunspray from experienced mercenaries, while tripping up said serious mercenaries, with gum balls they throw on the ground, all while training under batman for like a month.
At least with people like the punisher it's like "yeah, he's just a very skilled guy who a lot of anger resolve and a lot of time to prep his sniper shots and so forth", but yeah, those batgirl and robin things joker did were done despite conflicting levels of abilities.
Joker is mainly a threat cuz he'll jump off a building and while batman tries to save him, he'll stab at him with a knife. Joker can run through swat teams if he has a gun, but that's ultimately nothing in gotham, almost anyone can do that.
Meanwhile bane, solomon grundy, ra's al ghul, etc are actual threats to just about anyone in dc.
A joker character that flash faces is the prankster, who is a joker character, but minus the psychopath tendencies. I do like the idea of raven vs Black Adam, however the Superman vs scarecrow I would change that to Green Lantern Vs Scarecrow, since the creator of the fear toxins would be a good choice for the emerald knight of willpower to battle against. I would have seen Shazam fight against one of Superman’s villains namely Livewire, where her electric powers combat against magical lightning.
Superman, I can see fighting against Ares the god of war as a battle between two god like beings. The idea of Wonder Woman fighting someone like poison ivy is a good choice, since I can see ivy getting her powers upgraded by either Circe or by being granted more power from Gaia becoming an Amazon plant hybrid.
I have an idea for a special crossover between Marvel/DC, you may have probably done this before but how about where some of the justice league members take on some of Spider-Man, X-men and Avengers rogues gallery.
You’re thinking of the Trickster, but otherwise you’re right.
Prankster is a Superman villain. Surprised they never teamed up!
@@tfly999 thanks for correcting me. There have been many villains with some of the same gimmicks as the clown prince of crime in Gotham
@@tfly999I’m surprised these two guys weren’t used instead for Three Jokers
@@prosperotorres7965 Want to know something really confusing? Another unremarkable criminal called 'The Clown' injured Hunter Zolomon and was responsible for starting him down the path to becoming the Flash villain 'Zoom'.
Lex Luthor would be a great Batman villain.
He was in No Man’s Land, The Murderer/Fugitive saga and Batman Confidential but yes there’s more untapped opportunities
Martian Manhunter and Firefly
Flash and Scarecrow
Batman and Toyman
Wonder woman and Mad Hatter
Superman and Hush
Green Lantern and Mr Freeze
Cyborg and Raas Al Ghul
Aquaman and Poison Ivy
Batman and Toyman was one I almost went with
@tyrellmultimedia The guy you said does sound better. Toyman just feels and looks like a Batman villian too.
Lot of these just end in like 10 seconds. Bro wants 3 issue comic books
Nah, a good enough writer can make a story out of anything. Out of all the ridiculous things comics do on a daily basis, these aren't too far fetched.
Nothing wrong with a short arc.
Batman vs. Giganta how does he take her down or she beat him down
Giganta's main disadvantage is her size. It gives Batman a large area to target to take her down with blows to her nerve points.
Batman vs Lex Luthor
That already occurred in "JLA." Luthor formed an Injustice League composed of the arch enemies of the various members of the Justice League. Instead of doing the typical fight, Luthor used the tactics of the Boardroom to take down the Justice League. Batman figured out that they were led by Luthor and he wasn't worried. The reason: Luthor was going up against Bruce Wayne who knows Corporate Tactics better than Luthor does. Bruce Wayne defeated Lex Luthor in that story.
Superman vs Riddler. Have Riddler out to prove his mind is stronger then the strongest man on earth but Superman just breaks all of Riddler's traps without solving them, frustrating Riddler to dangerous levels. Riddler finally gets Superman stuck in a puzzle but Superman shows gets to show his more cerebral side and beats Riddler at his own game.