The people on reddit still are saying Johnny's nerfs are a slap on the wrist and that no downplaying is allowed.. bruh, I'm done with the nerf mentality and community.
His nerfs are indeed a slap because they don't affect his overall gameplay and don't stop him from still being good as hell. Having said that, those Reddit people are mad because they wanted the character killed and that didn't happen. And that is why you see the comments you are seeing. I feel like you - I am also done with that segment of the Kommunity too.
@mrAPchem I agree Johnny the character still has the tools to be up there, but purely isolating the nerfs, making his down 1 be 7 frames and 11 plus 1, is a big deal IMO. The frame data can't be overlooked. That's just my argument for not being a slap on the wrist, but yes, Johnny the character is still great. Keep up the positive content, calling out the dumb haters and nerf culture. This folks never even tried mk9. They wouldn't understand what broken truly is
@@djcrazy941026 Yeah, these people whining today have no clue how broken JC was in MK9. A +6 jab string, a +5 EX Projectile that hit crouch-blocking opponents and could be done from his mid. And then on top of this, the boy had a +40 restand from Nut Punch that was the ender to literally every combo he did. If MK9 ever got GGPO, these people would be throwing their TVs in pure rage mode.
Johnny has had known counter play since launch. Like I said before, his 1,1 could have been armored out of and converted into a full combo by some teams. His 212 and 214 string have an OS punish where you can block the low option and upblock the high option 100% of the time and be safe. His wakeup options aren't great, D3 or D4 covers all of them except invincible nut punch which costs 2 bars and can't be turned into a combo without very specific kameos. When I fight Johnny I meaty D3 into kameo call and it works most of the time, it beats his armor, delay wakeup (if you're doing it on reaction to his character model rising) and his parry, 3 of the most common wakeups you'll catch a Johnny attempting. Johnny is the most nerfed character in the game right now. He's been nerfed in every patch since launch AND PEOPLE ARE STILL CALLING FOR MORE NERFS. EX nut punch and nut punch were nerfed, EX-Dash was nerfed, Health was nerfed by -50, parry was nerfed, and now his frames are nerfed. Then you have characters like Ashrah who can convert off of Sareena blades in nearly any scenario, whether it be from full screen, catching your opponent in the air, or whatever. And her EX-DF3 is nearly impossible to punish, she can do an air kick to punish you for attempting or she can escape with astral projection. Her armored wake-up has multiple hits of armor, can be turned into a flash parry and can be a "get out of the corner for free" option. She has a +5 projectile and she gets insane combo damage. You have Kenshi who has a literal win condition with Sento that he can bring out for free on block with cyrax or sub-zero kameo. These people are playing a different game. I'm convinced half the shit I've experienced in this game these casuals calling for nerfs have never and will never experience because they're fighting an entirely different pool of lower skilled opponents.
Sindel hard to blockable with lao, unblockable resets with tremor, liu kang being able to full combo punish a successful throw tech, these things are infinitely more frustrating than any Johnny Cage player. NRS caving to the whiners is disheartening.
What gets me is people who are complaining about the game and not even playing it calling for these nerfs. Thats the worst to me and those who just hop on for a few matches casually and get there behind handed to them calling for nerfs.
Those people have always existed in MK games. It's just that NRS doesn't need to listen to those people - and certainly shouldn't use such complaints in order to make balancing changes.
@@mrAPchem that’s to my point I guess is I feel like they do. I agree to your points though I’m of the opinion that they should buff other characters instead of nerfing them.
Well, Baraka players have won more tournaments after his nerfs than before them. Baraka is still very good as a character, so I wouldn't drop him if I were you.
The people on reddit still are saying Johnny's nerfs are a slap on the wrist and that no downplaying is allowed.. bruh, I'm done with the nerf mentality and community.
His nerfs are indeed a slap because they don't affect his overall gameplay and don't stop him from still being good as hell.
Having said that, those Reddit people are mad because they wanted the character killed and that didn't happen. And that is why you see the comments you are seeing. I feel like you - I am also done with that segment of the Kommunity too.
@mrAPchem I agree Johnny the character still has the tools to be up there, but purely isolating the nerfs, making his down 1 be 7 frames and 11 plus 1, is a big deal IMO. The frame data can't be overlooked. That's just my argument for not being a slap on the wrist, but yes, Johnny the character is still great.
Keep up the positive content, calling out the dumb haters and nerf culture. This folks never even tried mk9. They wouldn't understand what broken truly is
@@djcrazy941026 Yeah, these people whining today have no clue how broken JC was in MK9. A +6 jab string, a +5 EX Projectile that hit crouch-blocking opponents and could be done from his mid. And then on top of this, the boy had a +40 restand from Nut Punch that was the ender to literally every combo he did.
If MK9 ever got GGPO, these people would be throwing their TVs in pure rage mode.
Johnny has had known counter play since launch. Like I said before, his 1,1 could have been armored out of and converted into a full combo by some teams. His 212 and 214 string have an OS punish where you can block the low option and upblock the high option 100% of the time and be safe. His wakeup options aren't great, D3 or D4 covers all of them except invincible nut punch which costs 2 bars and can't be turned into a combo without very specific kameos. When I fight Johnny I meaty D3 into kameo call and it works most of the time, it beats his armor, delay wakeup (if you're doing it on reaction to his character model rising) and his parry, 3 of the most common wakeups you'll catch a Johnny attempting.
Johnny is the most nerfed character in the game right now. He's been nerfed in every patch since launch AND PEOPLE ARE STILL CALLING FOR MORE NERFS. EX nut punch and nut punch were nerfed, EX-Dash was nerfed, Health was nerfed by -50, parry was nerfed, and now his frames are nerfed.
Then you have characters like Ashrah who can convert off of Sareena blades in nearly any scenario, whether it be from full screen, catching your opponent in the air, or whatever. And her EX-DF3 is nearly impossible to punish, she can do an air kick to punish you for attempting or she can escape with astral projection. Her armored wake-up has multiple hits of armor, can be turned into a flash parry and can be a "get out of the corner for free" option. She has a +5 projectile and she gets insane combo damage.
You have Kenshi who has a literal win condition with Sento that he can bring out for free on block with cyrax or sub-zero kameo.
These people are playing a different game. I'm convinced half the shit I've experienced in this game these casuals calling for nerfs have never and will never experience because they're fighting an entirely different pool of lower skilled opponents.
Sindel hard to blockable with lao, unblockable resets with tremor, liu kang being able to full combo punish a successful throw tech, these things are infinitely more frustrating than any Johnny Cage player. NRS caving to the whiners is disheartening.
What gets me is people who are complaining about the game and not even playing it calling for these nerfs. Thats the worst to me and those who just hop on for a few matches casually and get there behind handed to them calling for nerfs.
Those people have always existed in MK games. It's just that NRS doesn't need to listen to those people - and certainly shouldn't use such complaints in order to make balancing changes.
@@mrAPchem that’s to my point I guess is I feel like they do. I agree to your points though I’m of the opinion that they should buff other characters instead of nerfing them.
Baraka was my shit but has been shit after week 4
Well, Baraka players have won more tournaments after his nerfs than before them. Baraka is still very good as a character, so I wouldn't drop him if I were you.