Unlocked with Michel Barnier: "It's not like the British to be naïve"
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What Barnier does not demonstrate that he understands is that Brexit promoters did know that they wanted to leave the Single Market and the Customs Union because they wanted to massively reduce rights and standards, which is not possible inside the Single Market. This is what they are trying to do now. Of course U.K. citizens were told lots of things but most didn’t know what the Single Market and the Customs Union were so it was easy to lie to them.
You are completely wrong. We were told that voting for Brexit would mean leaving the Customs Union, Single Market and knew exactly what that meant. What we didn't appreciate is just how duplicitous our politicians would be.
@@stumac869
Leavers said that they held all the cards and that the EU would cave in to their demands.
The talk about leaving the single market and customs union only came after the referendum and after realising that the EU was not going to allow free access to a non-member.
"Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market.”
Daniel Hannan, 2016 campaign.
"Norway is rich, happy, self-governing..."
Nigel Farage in the 2016 campaign.
Your chronology is all mess up...
Don't invent facts because we were all there in 2016.
@@guleiro how's it even possible to leave the EU without leaving the single market and customs union?
@@stumac869 🤣 Why don't you ask the Norwegians how they managed to be part of Single Market and staying out of EU membership at the same time. Btw, there's a price to that: you have the benefits of Single Market, but you don't have much saying in creating rules of the Market. But that was Norway's choice, they can afford that, they don't have 2 million people queueing in Food Banks, and don't have to wait 6-60 months for a surgery in public hospitals
Disaster capitalism at its finest. They took advantage of the naive British public. Who still appear to be totally dumbfounded over what has been done to them in the name of short term greed.
B...R...E...X...I...T
saga is now slowly turning into a Brexit tragedy.
it is so full of powerful emotions; twists and turns; ups and downs that if written into a play,
it would certainly beat the Greek tragedy in popularity.
We never needed to be in a political union for £116 billion of physical goods that required SM compliance and FOM obligations. Barnier is talking nonsense. The negotiation stance from day dot was a) give us the cash b ) secure EU citizens “rights” c) the NI border to secure the EU SM. All moves were geared around a) before they would even negotiate “ trade” . In essence they reinvented A50 on the hood to achieve a)
@camu camu - they never want to hear the facts
Shakespeare himself would have had a field day with Brexit.
@@garrywynne1218 A single market needs common standards and regulations. Either you’re in or you’re out. And furthermore the EU is a political project. Always has been, hence the “C” in EEC! The four freedoms were already described when the UK joined in 1973.
@@louis-philippearnhem6959 - we never voted for a political project . For removal of doubt the post fact referenda in 1975 referred to it as “ The common market”. And nowhere in any dictionary definition infer or confer a political entity from Community. The problems started with the creation of the SM and the switch to a Union . Again without a vote from Maastricht to Lisbon.
It's what happens to a country when you underinvest in education for the past 30 years
26 of those years in the EU
How did they help?
@@msmith323 that… doesn’t change the fact that education is being funded less than it should be in those 30 years. It’s not like the EU is underfunding it, rather it’s the government.
Being underfunded means less people will be educated/education gets worse, so it’s easier to manipulate them with lies and the like; as critical thinking declines.
Why are you blaming the EU for something our government did?
@@EldenLordOrvik7790 We spent 40 years in the EU... shouldn't being a member have had a positive influence on our education? And on our entire country as a whole... by 2016?
@@msmith323 Haven't you ever heard of the Erasmus scheme that supported young people to study or work in the EU? Also the EU distributed a massive research budget to UK universities.
@@msmith323 It did have an impact, the message that should be above mine is an example. The EU gave us capital financing too. The EU was good for education, but our government leaves a lot to be desired.
And if you want to be pedantic, the EU didn’t exist until 1993. Even if you were talking about the EEC, we joined that in 1973. 30 years or 50, but not 40.
a sensible and diplomatic man and compared to Boris and his bus claims, his sovereignty and take back control bollox.... its tragic how we have been conned
Who elected him not the people of Europe
@@gordonfleming458 we used to elect the people who give him his orders
@@7ookee and your next joke is ??? Take your time 🕰️ tic tock
@Yakov Shani and you are both 🤡
Your propaganda doesn't work here. It's not even laughable. The jingoism has rotted your brain. Meanwhile in reality we make plans to survive the ineptitude you voted in.
There's a whole generation of people in the UK who exhibit party loyalty even though it is not in their personal interests. The loyalists to the Conservative party wanted to believe the lies they were fed simply because they didn't want to accept that their party woulx lie to them.
All the folks initiating and backing Brexit wanted was to avoid the upcoming anti tax evasion directive at all costs. F… the rest and here we are 6 years onwards. . . . .
Yep. it's a matter of record that many of the Brexit voices have offshore accounts in tax havens like the Cayman Islands etc.
Do you think this is a UK phenomenon
?????. Greed and tax evasion everywhere.
Mister Barnier answered diplomatically, for sure the British negociarors and media were very naive and arrogant, they have totally underestimated the consequences of the Brexit and lied to the people. The Brits were happy to get out of UE as quickly as possible, they have quickly scheduled the withdrawal and their only goal was to sign for the divorce before the deadline. (as if they had an urgent remarriage after Brexit 😅).
How do we sell our goods & services to the EU if we don't follow their rules & regulations, even though we are no longer a member 🤔
Smuggle.
You don’t. Nor by the way to rest of the world as most of them use EU regulations and standards as well.
Difference between standards and rules. Norway has access to the single market but it is very expensive and they have no say in that market. Wasn't barniere one of the European members caught planning UK punishments at a un meeting.
@@abbofun9022 really? ???? In Asia I have never seen a eu safety mark. Not many in America either.
@@adrianrouse5148 Why punish a bleeding man lying on the ground?
We voted to leave that means the custom union and the single market what part of that do the EU not understand
You are right sir, the promoters of Brexit weren’t naive, arrogant yes. Arrogant to the extent that they couldn’t be bothered about the consequences of Brexit. Consequences be damned!
Dishonest, I think is the word.
Yes indeed "Project Fear" is bearing all the "fruits" we predicted. And it will continue to do so to Britain's huge disadvantage. BTW, good old Barnier, I love the guy.
Lies and more lies, even the 🤡 didn't really believe; just so that he could become PM! Totally unsuitable
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UK financials and politics are ruled by a single cat. Cat wants to leave but doesn't when the door is open. Then tries to jump through the windows as soon as the door gets closed. Door opens again, cat is happy but doesn't want to leave. Cat gets kicked out and now feels betrayed that not only it cannot get back inside but also all the others doors throughout the world are not left open so it might come over... Or not, depending on what serves its own interests and nothing more.
Spoiler alert : cat ends up with nothing, ranting about how unfair the whole world has been acting while it was all supposed to belong to the self-centered cat as a tiny part of its huge and well-deserved empire from centuries.
The only brexit benefit is the end of the tory party.
Yes but they have trashed our economy will be happy losers , AND. Will the public fall for there lies again ? that things were going well before the other party took over?
JUST. Think about they aren’t really doing anything. Just treading water, with max 21 months to go,
Naive
Tell the rest of the country's in the EU about their sovereignty . How their governments can no longer make decisions that are voted on within those country's Ask them if their quality of living has improved since joining the EU ? the answer will be 50% would say they wish to leave the EU as it stands at the moment . The grand project has for the most part failed .The south is far worse off now ,whilst the north has most of the heavy industry and employment . If we could go back to the EEC days with out the massive business that is the EU that want all the powers over the entire continent . Then I may agree it is a worth while club to join . What pushed so many Brits to vote leave was the way Barnier twisted the rules and regs in an effort to make leaving as hard as possible for the Uk . He was perceived as going to war with the UK . Not the kind of trading partner we need ! Macron only made things worse . The hatred emanating from him was ridiculous . Look back in history, De Gaul did not think the UK could ever fit in with the Europeans in their union . And even if there was a small chance for the UK to rejoin , Then the likes of the French would make impossible demands that the UK could never accept . Let the house of cards fall ,then rebuild on different terms . we do not need a united states of Europe of a rerun of communist russia
Because we're thick for fks sake.We're so thick we don't know we're thick.Duh! That's telling im !
I’m intelligent enough to know i am think , unlike a lot of BREXLINGS ?
I’m intelligent enough to know i am think , unlike a lot of BREXLINGS ?
We're not, but they don't understand that yet
Are we not your second biggest export market ?
In the way that your bicycle is your second biggest car
@@topcat8804 it creates more eu jobs than the 3rd highest ?
We bought them liberty they will learn to value it.
It’s not a single market but a political union that’s unequal and elected
Mostly the comments on here are from people who view Brexit only from he view point of an economist. I voted leave because I do not want to be ruled from Brussels by people who do not care for our sovereignty or respect the differences in culture between the UK and the EU. I did my own research and did not rely on an advert on the side of a bus, it does not bother me if I have to get a visa to travel to another country and it does not concern me if a BMW now costs a little more. The EU has demonstrated quite clearly since our departure that they will apply punitive measures to any country that defies them, that is as good a reason as any to leave. Stop crying and get on with the rest of your life.
Exactly all this stuff that everyone was duped or uneducated is just not true. I knew Brexit would be a difficult process and the downsides would happen more or less immediately. But the idea that all the uncertainty lay with Brexit was untrue. No one could have predicted for example the Covid pandemic and the EU Commission would decide that they needed a Covid recovery fund that would be another bill for the net contributors. So the Dutch for example have a net contribution of another 40 billion Euro, the UK contribution would have been 100+ billion- more than the entire cost of furlough. The UK was on track to increase it's population by a million people every 4 years just from free movement. The truth is Remain was as unpredictable as Brexit.
what you problem?
Ahh, lilangerland, what a shame.
Time to rejoin the EU.
@camu camu Thanks for your comment.
@Satoshi Nakamoto Thanks for your comment.
If the EU would have the UK back and further more under what conditions, definitely not the same as the first time around. Rejoining the EU is not a UK decision it is an EU decision.
@@rlendore65 Thanks for your comment.
No. The EU isn't like the pub around your corner which you can enter and leave as it pleases you. You might apply for membership but it is the EU and its members who decide whether you can join or not. And after all what happened I'm pretty sure an application would be rejected quickly.
EU was equally ignorant
I was against the UK leaving the EU. I thought it would hurt the UK (especially in trade with Europe) and the EU member states (the UK is the second strongest GNP in Europe between Germany and France). I thought the average UK citizen did not understand how the EU helps the UK and all members of the EU. Additionally, I thought some UK politicians used this misunderstanding to seize political power (get elected) from more sensible UK politicians. But I have to admit that the UK seems to be doing okay. Maybe the UK's trade within the EU is not significant enough to help or hurt the UK's GNP. If this is the case then maybe the Brexiteers were right. Overall, I hope England made the right decision for itself and for Europe. But based on what I know I think England should stay within the EU for trade and social stability. Though I have to admit as things have turned out for England everything is about the same whether staying in EU or getting out of EU.
Slowest growth in the G20 is 'okay'???
@@topcat8804 which countries are in recession? ?? Which currency is over extended. Which currency is propped up by trillions of worthless bonds. Which currency has gone banktupt and has yet to repay it's loans..
Funny that you say „England“. Because England dragged Scotland with it.
....and it did have too
LePen support growing with every passing day as French disenchantment with the EU and Macron increases. The Dutch, Polish, Hungarian, Italian people etc etc grow equally tired of being governed by Brussels bureaucrats. Barnier doesn't see that Brexit was the catalyst for much of the changes now underway in the EU particularly control of borders and immigration, trade flexibility etc etc etc. The UK has its sovereignty back and now other EU satellites are pushing for the same transfer of power away from the Brussels. Nothing would have changed Mr Barnier but for Brexit.
They're obsessed with us
From Mr pompous himself!
Mr Pompous? Lard Frosty had plastic surgery and looks like Mr Barnier by now?? 😲
@@EllieD.Violet So you didn't get that help I suggested?
@@jasonkingshott2971 I don't need any more 'help'. We employ all those servants we need. Probably because we pay much higher salaries than the average.
Did you intend to apply as gardener?
@@EllieD.Violet Ha!
@@EllieD.Violet I must say, you're always entertaining, a figure of fun.
As for being your gardener, I'm a bit pushed for time over the next 8 months spending time in Bangkok then filming a documentary throughout Sumatra, Indonesia. Don't know what your terms and conditions are.
Is Paris still on fire? Are the Dutch farmers still unhappy? How's the Italian birth rate? The EU is a small and declining part if the world. If Germany wants to carry on bailing it out that's up to them.
You live in the little Utopia called England.
@Robert Thomson: Indeed all is not rosy in the EU. Yes there are issues but I wouldn't swap my life here on the continent for one in the UK. We are free to visit any country on the continent, it is beautiful here, we have all the food we want, inflation is at least 3% less to what it is in the UK,.. So we are not doing so bad and, believe me, many Britons want to abandon the English ship which is sinking. Open your eyes, my friend
No it’s not 😂😂😂😂