@@ilyakusenco8151 they changed the animation. Now the owl poops the lunar missiles out. Looks dumb now. Also the blue animation looks too druidic to me, not hunter like.
Hand of Fate seems to be quite OP in AOE situations no? I know its reliability is based on RNG, but, you either stack Haste or Damage which applies to whoever received the finishers right? Is that REALLY bad? Maybe for PVP it is.
Rofl have you seen survival's pack leader? It's the shit you put that stick in. That tree doesn't do anything except some passive damage from mostly your PET's basic attack and your kill command. That's pretty much it. So not only is most of the power passive, it's not even coming from you, but your pet passively lol. Zero animations. At least you got a coin.
All about crits and finishers. The capstone tho, I can just see the ramp up in sustain with that. If we can get it to 10 thats 10% agi, crit, haste, mastery, and vers. The faster you play this one, the faster you’ll be able to play this one
@@coreyrus-vid2863 Yeah there's no way they could let this stack. The mythic+ meta would become a nonstop pull fest so the rogue could have +20%+ primary/secondary stats by the end of the run and just lol the end boss. Or you're have to kill critters ect along the way constantly, or drop turnips ect. Blizzard would have to put 11 seconds of RP in front of every boss -- hard pass.
The thing that sucks about this is really the animations. How does mage, priest, warlock, etc., get these unbelievably cool effects from their hero talents… and rogue drops a coin on the ground beside their character? So lame
yeah. terrible design.. to keep making it that way.. with gameplay for the class/spec, and mechanics, that game itself has no way to fully show to the player, and not encourage but force people to use weakauras to be able to play that class/spec
Ok just give outlaw more combat rogue roots this is getting ridiculous we dont have dread blades anymore and we get to flip coins in combat wow i traded my blue shiny ghost blade for a coin that i will toss around on the FLOOR in combat why couldnt i put the coin in my pistol and call it coin shot and makes the do bleed damage or something another button to press for damage???!!! Oh yeah i forgot they took garrote away in df alpha
The sad thing is that Rogue players hadn’t even seen the botched abortion that is Trickster yet. Fatebound is the one Rogue spec that actually has a functioning theme. Even though the theme is garbage, at least it there. Wait till you get a load of Trickster
Fuckin hate what they did to Combat Rogue back in legion when they turned it into outlaw. RNG all over the place and basically unplayable without the use of certain Addons
@@onlywrongaexthetics6181 Of course you can play it without addons but it’s still terrible design. Encouraging players to download an addon is the wrong way in class design for me.
Finally! thanks Dalaran now looking forward to Trickster since I use Killing Spree/ Sinister-Ambush Spam build and I personally hate Crackshot playstyle guess mainly because everyone tunnels to it and I'd rather be less optimal and more uniqe but hopefully can give some insight on Trickster since everyone else says its bad but idk sounds like it fits more my playstyle vs fatebound fitting the meta crackshot playstyle.
I have the best idea for the rework of arcane mages since what they did is crap: 1) same thing as here with rogue, play with „fate“ but call it weather and the longer the fight goes on the more damage the arcane mage will do by controlling the „arcane currents“ in the surrounding (potential for some cool aoe effects) 2) add a new high skill mechanic: when the arcane mage blinks he leaves a mirror image that is exactly doing what the mage was doing: casting frostbolt and blinked? It leaves a mirror image behind that continues to cast it so rogues or melee enemies will continue to see a „smart mirror image“ that can be nerfed based on its health. The mage then has ofc 1 second invisibility to „attack from the shadows“ similar to how a rogue would. 3) mirror image changes this class substantially and we immediately remove this stupid useless spell : it gives the mage 3 blink charges on top of whatever charges are possible (cooldown gain is not lost), so the mage can a) blink out of danger 4) warrior would chase, blink again and so on, so it could simulate a mirror image encounter where ofc the images could vanish after six seconds or whatever. This would add a lot of mobility to arcane and keep the high skill of the class while removing the brain dead parts of it ❤❤
It would also change the dynamics of the class, for example: opening sequences in arenas: invisibility, start casting to kite out enemy, blink to keep smart mirror image behind, relocate within 2 seconds, start burst
Another idea: add a talent that on activate makes the next mirror image that gets killed turn the enemy into a polymorph. This effect could last less or not happen if the mirror image is not interrupted from whatever „fake spell“ it was casting; high risk high reward talent for some fun plays ??
Recently came back to wow after leaving in season 1 and I really don’t like the between the eyes build, it feels like it’s taking away the outlaw fantasy and just turning us into subtlety with swords instead of daggers :/
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Playing outlaw is basically playing mini games within playing a game lol
This gives a whole new meaning to,
"Heads: I win, tails: you lose." 😂
Alrdy hate the RNG of roll the bones. And now it gets worse? Still a hard no for me.
I absolutely hate the direction they have taken rogues with outlaw back in the day.
the rogue dev is almost malicious with their commitment to the current rotation
visually this is a major letdown, its very easy to miss in a large mob pull or pop scenario...but that was expected with rogue
Have you seen survival's pack leader? They didn't even bother to add any animations to that one lol.
@@alancode2147At least you guys have beautiful Sentinel. We got two awful specs, and there is only a small change the third one would be good
@@ilyakusenco8151 they changed the animation. Now the owl poops the lunar missiles out. Looks dumb now. Also the blue animation looks too druidic to me, not hunter like.
great video thank you , im looking forward to seeing what u have for sub rogue.
Hand of Fate seems to be quite OP in AOE situations no? I know its reliability is based on RNG, but, you either stack Haste or Damage which applies to whoever received the finishers right? Is that REALLY bad? Maybe for PVP it is.
Rogue really got the shit end of the stick here
it’s not as flashy but the playstyle seems fun, it’s still the alpha
Rofl have you seen survival's pack leader? It's the shit you put that stick in. That tree doesn't do anything except some passive damage from mostly your PET's basic attack and your kill command. That's pretty much it. So not only is most of the power passive, it's not even coming from you, but your pet passively lol. Zero animations. At least you got a coin.
@@alancode2147 dude as a hunter main (rouge is my alt) i’ve been crying reading these hero talent trees
Hunter in a nutshell
All about crits and finishers. The capstone tho, I can just see the ramp up in sustain with that. If we can get it to 10 thats 10% agi, crit, haste, mastery, and vers. The faster you play this one, the faster you’ll be able to play this one
Capstone doesn’t stack. So it will only ever be at 1.
@@coreyrus-vid2863 Yeah there's no way they could let this stack. The mythic+ meta would become a nonstop pull fest so the rogue could have +20%+ primary/secondary stats by the end of the run and just lol the end boss. Or you're have to kill critters ect along the way constantly, or drop turnips ect. Blizzard would have to put 11 seconds of RP in front of every boss -- hard pass.
Sweet. I get to play as Anton Chigurh.
The thing that sucks about this is really the animations. How does mage, priest, warlock, etc., get these unbelievably cool effects from their hero talents… and rogue drops a coin on the ground beside their character? So lame
The war withweakauras... in 😣
yeah. terrible design.. to keep making it that way.. with gameplay for the class/spec, and mechanics, that game itself has no way to fully show to the player, and not encourage but force people to use weakauras to be able to play that class/spec
@@ciocolici Bro you literally see the coin flipping on the ground....you can see it though
@@ciocolici just admitted to not being able to see a clearly visible coin on the floor
How do I get Valeera’s look from the thumbnail?!
actually subscribed because of the reminder kekw, hope to god outlaw will stay viable
You and me both brother lol
Ok just give outlaw more combat rogue roots this is getting ridiculous we dont have dread blades anymore and we get to flip coins in combat wow i traded my blue shiny ghost blade for a coin that i will toss around on the FLOOR in combat why couldnt i put the coin in my pistol and call it coin shot and makes the do bleed damage or something another button to press for damage???!!! Oh yeah i forgot they took garrote away in df alpha
The sad thing is that Rogue players hadn’t even seen the botched abortion that is Trickster yet.
Fatebound is the one Rogue spec that actually has a functioning theme. Even though the theme is garbage, at least it there. Wait till you get a load of Trickster
Is outlaw still unplayable without weak auras?
yes
@@koci53z ok thanks
Yeah unplayable without WA because whoever design outlaw should not have a job
Okay, more RNG BS? Just bring combat rogue back. You ruined the potential with Outlaw by making the RNG a main feature and now you're making it worse.
This
Seconded
Fuckin hate what they did to Combat Rogue back in legion when they turned it into outlaw. RNG all over the place and basically unplayable without the use of certain Addons
😂😂😂UnPLayAaBle
@@onlywrongaexthetics6181 Of course you can play it without addons but it’s still terrible design. Encouraging players to download an addon is the wrong way in class design for me.
What rogue is looking good and what rogue is looking bad
Big envenoms are back? :D
WHY IS NO ONE COVERING DEATHSTALKER???
In term od fantasy it looks So Fun. Also i play Dwarf with pirate tmog and fliping coins everywhere Will look crazy 😀 but Its more ring for rng spec 😀
Finally! thanks Dalaran now looking forward to Trickster since I use Killing Spree/ Sinister-Ambush Spam build and I personally hate Crackshot playstyle guess mainly because everyone tunnels to it and I'd rather be less optimal and more uniqe but hopefully can give some insight on Trickster since everyone else says its bad but idk sounds like it fits more my playstyle vs fatebound fitting the meta crackshot playstyle.
I hope there is a Mario coin sound glyph.
whats up with Sub? I have found nothing out???
try harder
@@ericconrad8854 nice. Very informative.
Seems like the only reason really this benefits sin is the cp generation. Im not sure i like the concept for sin.
Dal is pure entertainment
Going to need another weakarua, yay.
Rogue outlaw is they wurst thing ever that hapens for rogue. They littrally destroyed combat rogue.
Thx i hate it. super informative video as always though.
I have the best idea for the rework of arcane mages since what they did is crap: 1) same thing as here with rogue, play with „fate“ but call it weather and the longer the fight goes on the more damage the arcane mage will do by controlling the „arcane currents“ in the surrounding (potential for some cool aoe effects) 2) add a new high skill mechanic: when the arcane mage blinks he leaves a mirror image that is exactly doing what the mage was doing: casting frostbolt and blinked? It leaves a mirror image behind that continues to cast it so rogues or melee enemies will continue to see a „smart mirror image“ that can be nerfed based on its health. The mage then has ofc 1 second invisibility to „attack from the shadows“ similar to how a rogue would. 3) mirror image changes this class substantially and we immediately remove this stupid useless spell : it gives the mage 3 blink charges on top of whatever charges are possible (cooldown gain is not lost), so the mage can a) blink out of danger 4) warrior would chase, blink again and so on, so it could simulate a mirror image encounter where ofc the images could vanish after six seconds or whatever. This would add a lot of mobility to arcane and keep the high skill of the class while removing the brain dead parts of it ❤❤
I can tell my concept has a bit of inspiration from how mirage works in Apex, interesting
It would also change the dynamics of the class, for example: opening sequences in arenas: invisibility, start casting to kite out enemy, blink to keep smart mirror image behind, relocate within 2 seconds, start burst
Another idea: add a talent that on activate makes the next mirror image that gets killed turn the enemy into a polymorph. This effect could last less or not happen if the mirror image is not interrupted from whatever „fake spell“ it was casting; high risk high reward talent for some fun plays ??
Recently came back to wow after leaving in season 1 and I really don’t like the between the eyes build, it feels like it’s taking away the outlaw fantasy and just turning us into subtlety with swords instead of daggers :/
I'm so excited for this spec.
Rouge got screwed, nice vid tho
What a stupid class fantasy. What were they thinking?
ok going to enhc shaman
just more rng, an haveing to wait longer for the buff to be active, its not viable to M+ but really raids.
Hard pass for me. There's a reason my Rogue has sitting for years lol.
this is dumb I hope they don't ruin the last hero talents for assassination Rouges
sounds really trash, comparing to other classes ;/
Rip lol this game sucks balls.
Lol soo bad