I’ve just made friends with and feed my rooftop pigeons, I started to think that they were following me on some of my walks … i found this video fascinating and sketched a pigeon while watching and listening. Thank you. 🕊️
My goodness ! Pigeons are actually fascinating creatures ! They truly are amazing !! My uncle has pigeons, and every year, he'll go for a ride with his 33 pigeons, let them go from one location to another, and it's always a race on who gets home first 😅. He lives in Glasgow and the further he did in distance with his pigeons was Aberdeen, back to Glasgow, which is over 150 miles. He was really stressed out, of course, but they all came home, safe and sound, thank God. He always loses the race, obviously. You can't beat pigeons 😅😅... By the way, if I may, my uncle tells me that when he releases the pigeons, no matter the location, they'll circle around a few of times and then, zoooom, they'll fly home on a more or less straight line and, again, more or less. Truly astounding and bewildering. I'd love to know how they map their way home, so to speak... Sometimes, I wonder if they have this "echolocation" ability, even if I've read that they apparently aren't able to echolocate but still, makes you wonder, doesn't it ? Have a good evening 🙏 everyone 😊 ☮️
i love pigeons iam 64 years old from the age of 8 years old i .kept pigeons .i enjoyed the experiment with the barge in the wate ri beleive he should have tried a pigeon nesting on eggs at the beg ining of the documentary i saw a dog with an amazing bond for its master finding its master pigeons know if you love them too when i was about 20 years old i gave a friend a squeaker never was outside the coop when he released it after a week it came home a distance of 2 miles
It's a wired thing ,pigeon keeping will never be a one time thing ,even if you get rid of all yer birds u will always get into keeping them again ....it's a beautiful thing
And I think even future bird generations could find their way to an old home, of one of their parents or grandparents.. Even if they personally hadn't ever live there.. But knew it was a safe place to go.. Perhaps they can sence people(genetically inherited memories).. When in need of aid, they know where to go... Pigeons are easily my favorite animal!! Their so sweet!! Even the feisty one's!! Lol
You moved the loft. But the loft did not have any mate waiting for the bird to return. Try the experiment with breeding pairs then moving the loft. See if the connection is with the mate in the Loft. The difference between connection with living creature and a non living object.
I raised pigeons since I was a child, for more than 15 years. and I think they use the visual landmarks whenever they are available, and as a proof, we have some huge trees in front of my home, and one day we cut them, and the pigeons took longer time to realise that, they were skimming above the neighbourhood and increase their attitude and increase the radius of the circle with each round, until they learn it and then and surprisingly they made it home. I found out that, pigeons have very good learning ability, and they fly early in the morning to far places more than I could imagine. In fact, pigeons builds a very nice visual map in their heads, according to the attitude and the shape of the city from the sky and they treat it as a puzzle that they can solve even with partial information. My idea might be crazy, but I think the good pigeons could even measure the air pressure as they search for their homes, and they build an estimation on which direction might lead to the right place.
@@thomasranjit7781 Which God? There's plenty of Gods according to different religions that do not agree with eachother. What about the old Gods that people belived in before, but not anymore?
PIGEONS DESPERATELY NEED HELP !! 90% of pigeons in cities die in their first year of their lifes. The others don't live longer than 2-3 years. In nature, they can live up to 12-15 years ! They have nothing to eat, they are forced to eat trash and they freeze to death. Pigeons can NOT live naturally in cities. They are only here because of breeders !
My young pet pigeon goes on outings with us. (Hiking, berry picking, flea markets) It is not uncommon for her to fly off when we arrive, but she inevitably circles back and lands near us, and our dogs. She must know where our home is, when in the car she is on the console, or my shoulder, watching everything with interest. But if we're out in the car she flies to me. That leads me to think it has to do with scent. We sleep on my sheepskins on the bed, bird and dog as well. She coos and does the vertical wing flips of delight when she burrows her breast down into sheepskins. She knows our scent very well.
1000's of years of domestication and you're worried these pigeons get to fly free and get fed the best food and get to do what they were born to do fly! You're an asshole for implying they are somehow abused. Poor feral pigeons are abused.... tiny cowboy hats and such.
Pigeons are meant to fly they can decide where they want to go they have a choice,unlike horses people don't give horses a choice you care so much about pigeons but dont care about eating Cows,Chickens,fish pigeon fanciers love their pigeons and their pigeons love them thats why the pigeons come home
They use every teqnique, I think. They use sight and memory first on familiar places as it's easier I think. They use magnetic if far away and on unfamiliar places. When they are like a bit far but not that far that they remember the smell of some parts, they recognise and use that till they come to a part where they recognise visual vise, and then do the first step. Idk, my theory lol Like humans use eyes mainly to get back home, but if we were blindfolded, we'll use touch and other senses. I think magnetic and smell is like their other senses idk
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Wow! I love it!!! I use to raise pigeons when I was in primary school. I would love to do it again!
I had about 60 homing pigeons over a period of around 5 years. I didn't always lock them down, because I was busy driving truck , so in the end one by one most all of them got killed by coopers hawks. One time an owl got in at night and killed 4 pigeons. Another time a coopers hawk got in and killed 2 or 3. Those two incidents happened at night when the bars were down, so the predators went in , but then couldn't get back out. I released each of these predators. The coopers hawk would catch them from time to time, and take them 75 yards up in the woods, and dis-mantle them on a high stump usually. I never once actually saw a pigeon get caught , but I did see them get chased. The hawks don't catch them every time, but may have around a 10 to 25 percent success ratio, I believe.
For me its combination of everything, for shorter distance they rely on visual cues and the overall feeling of the place they live But for mid and long distance they rely on smell, air pressure, air direction, sun direction, when you left your pigeon at a different place firstly they circle around, basically figuring out a specific direction using all that mentioned above and proceed their journey in that direction and if in the journey they found something similar to their home, they again circle around that place, they run a list of checks on that place and if it doesn't match their home they proceed in the direction they figured out in the beginning, during their journey they constantly look for visual cues as well,
In this case if birds could leave 2 or 3 days with their aviary at new location they could be reach at new sight. Pigeons do not follow the new path to search their cage however they search the cage near to their previous location but not far aside. Pigeons find their ways with the help of different sensors. They memorize the sarroundings, use magnatic rays, sun location, wind flow, (try different seasons winter and summer. Birds returning home timings will be different). They also use their nose to find their destiny (try to put a unique scent in the loft, bird will follow the smeel during fly). But I think the most important tool is the visual memory. They can zoom their puple by distance. I would request To research their beak sensor also. Ever noticed pigeon do not eat other then original grains try to put plastic or concrete shape grains (I mean immitation grains) they will pick, hold then drop them but don't swallow It's shows they also have sensor in their beak.
i dont knw if any person of science knws it or not that people here in my area can train the pigeons in such a way that they come back to their mobile houses. they keep changing there location where ever they want but pigeons always find their home which is nt present over a single place
they need to do one were the coop is moving to see if they can fly from it and back then change locations and do it again tomorrow to see how long it takes them to position to a moving loft,
All the scientists are wrong about how the pigeons make there way back home' the only do guess work' the scientists have been studying the pigeons for years and they all have different theory about how they get back home. Many different studies have been done over the years they blocked there ears, they blocked there noses, they have done many experiments on pigeons but cannot still determine for sure how they come back home. God says in QURAN that he has given the birds build in navigation ' this is why the pigeons know were there home is. The pigeons can even cross countries and go to the other side of the world. The only problem is when you take them out of the country or the other side of the world is ' simply the pigeon gets exhausted and dies of dehydration, not because they get lost 'the pigeons know were there home is but very long distant just gets them dehydrated. If the birds do not get dehydrated they will come back home ' not a problem for them.
Base on my 60 years experience. In order for a pigeon to learn where the home is. 1- needs to start learning the location by getting exposed to location. That means we have to let them out of the coop frequently until they learn the location. some times after years of staying inside the coop, when the first time we let them out, that will be the last we see the bird. It has happened that I have moved the coop to the other side of the yard. birds had a hard time going to a new location. they wanted the coop to be in exact place when they were used to it. when they are realized, 1st they are realized from a short distance, then the distance is extended in the same direction. If the bird is realized 100 miles away from for the first time, most of them do not find the home, few find the home weeks sometimes months later. so it is learning the direction by flying over the landscape by seeing it.
Brilliant video,very interesting,being a lifetime with these wonderful birds,26 year's of racing pigeons best hobby in the world! But I'm so glad one of nature's biggest secret of homing remains a SECRET😊 Fasinating creature the racing/homing pigeon...
17:11 this could be prooved by taking one pieon from Germany to Argentina,,, and see if he gets confused since on the Southern hemiisphere the directions should be the opposiite of what he is used to.
What I feel is there might be combination of these hypothesis that can explain this process. Recognizing and flying back within short distances may be explained by one theory and that of long distance may be explained by the others or theses hypothesis may be used simultaneously with one superior in decision making than the other as per the different situation I.e. the distances they fly back.
One time a white with spots feral pigeon was given to me. It stayed over night in a cage separated from my other pigeons as I could not tell if it was carrying any disease or not. This story took place in Athens in the 80s. Athens from air is a cement labyrinth with many thousands of feral pigeons as well as 100s of Vouta pigeon keepers. Next morning I loaded her in my car, with some other lesser pigeons, and gave all of them to a person 10 miles away. I hate to admit they were all given to be eaten. But when I came back home ..she was there.. she had escaped, as I learned later, from that guys handling and returned faster than me.. I kept her for long time simply out of respect. I even flew her with the Voutas. She eventually was taken by the peregrine a couple of years after. But how she found a place on which she only lived on night, is a mystery
She fell in love with a psychopath that she didn't know was going to sell her to be someone's dinner. 😢 😭 💔 Thank god you treated her petter when she came back. RIP 🐦
@@sarahmurphy-nf4yl Did not sell them. They are feral pigeons worth no money. Not my fault animals eat other animals, and not your fault. That's the way life is.
I love this bird I have 10 but don’t know any one to ask questions and the net is next to useless so I’m spending my spare spare time watching you tube pigeon films
Pigeon racing is inhumane and nothing you argue will change my view. It is cruel to take them away from their home and then toss them out to struggle to find their way home. Just cruel. Many die on the way, they are attacked by hawks, just get tired and die slow, lonely painful deaths and are even shot. It should be limited to a more realistic distance...NOT hundreds of kilometers.....!!!
@@someguy12593 no need to be rude. I Just feel it's a pointless "hobby". Pigeons in nature face daily hazards. I see it every day on the waterfront where I work. But they aren't required to fly long distances just to get back to safety. Different situation taking them far away and releasing them. It's inhumane and should be banned just like cock and dog fighting. Enjoy your narrow minded viewpoint.
My theory is that pigeons comes back using all of that 1- sky starts son rising son sets to recognise east wast south and north then. No 2 - magnetic field to get more directions to home. Then 3 3- smell for May half of the distance will use the smell 4- the eye sign and that will start working from the distance that birds have been trained from.
Birds use a magnetic field in there body with the magnetic Feel in the earth Which pushes different magnetic pulse that the earth has in the equator I’ve been Raising and flying Pigeons-for 45 years
Did you ever looked at a pigeon when it is cozy and back in the nest, when it rests. Pigeon will stick out its tongue every now and then, like its tasting air. It will do this repeatedly. I think it, maybe like a reptile, remembering the smell and the taste of its home. "Pigeons that don't smell don't home" and that is a fact. If it is a combination of things than that is one of them for sure.
DuneDemon8 I agree with you but how they recognize the smell of their home from a long distance through new smells to them ? I think we won't understand that at least for now .
عبد الله we have poor sense of smell so it is hard to us to believe but smells can distribute remarkable distances in high attitudes. Pigeons circle once they are released maybe picking the faintest familiarities in the air first. Also they don't pick the shortest way home always they sometimes go slightly off courses maybe if the smells got distorted by the wind.
Hi .,To me. They used ., landscapes. Smells .,magnetism and atmosphere. They have a super power gift..love pigeons. Since I was 10 now 50 and still love them.
The olfactory theory is nonsense because all weather systems have an east to or from west movement . So the birds flying north south have no indicators from smell because once in unfamiliar territory they cannot bank on receiving the scents or smells from the north or south, only from east or west , and they still make it home. Then what about birds who make the South Africa to Siberia migration for the first time unassisted by others, just instinctively alone? Or the trans Himalayan migration ?
Hate to be a wet blanket (not) but it's probably a combination of things. Was the coriolus force mentioned at all? Sight, smell, magnetism, coriolus probably all figure in. Do pigeon flyers tend to fly birds east to west in the southern hemisphere? When I was flying birds in MA we flew west to east with the prevailing winds. There is also sound, memory and a birds ability to "think" to consider. Birds precisely imprint things we don't understand such as recognizing their offspring and their mate and migrating to a specific place. How does a starling know it's mate in a flock of thousands of birds that all look alike? I'm betting it isn't smell and that one singular focused answer isn't the answer.
when I have been away from home (NW UK) for a while and drive back up the M6, it's the smell of the humidity that I always notice... a sort of earthy, musty, moist, cool feeling smell. Can't say I particularly like it. The trees are always getting greener too, all the way up the road (summer). Pigeons 100% know the time and also the weather. May have been that they didn't set off because they knew there was a storm. They always know about storms, hours before. Maybe these people don't know as much as they think about pigeons, but then if it were some supernatural force, it would have been there after the storm and they would have set off... so, for me.. I can totally discount that theory as airy fairy
Pigeons can be shown to possess a biological chronometer, plus a biological sextant and altimeter. A pigeons navigational ability is restricted to finding its home location from a point it may not have previously visited, or navigating between its home and other locations it is familiar with. Why over-complicate and misinterpret, something which is utilising such simple and well understood principles, (which we humans have been using for hundreds of years.)
I thought it was cruel to release the pigeons who were denied their natural senses, such as, the ones who were raised in the plastic-sided aviary or given drops of Novocaine before their flight. Once those birds are lost, they can't fend for themselves, because they were raised as domestic animals. I know this, because a lost and exhausted racing pigeon has landed outside my apartment, and I'm the only one giving her food and water. She can't survive in the wild.
Most homing pigeons lost eventually hook up with wild birds and do fine. In big city flocks that people feed you are likely to find banded birds. In my area out in the country there was a guy who had white homers he released at weddings etc. White homers are better at being white than finding their way back. Sometimes they got lost and you see the pure white birds with feral flocks fairly nearby.
@@davidspahr4020 , but domesticated pigeons are raised on seeds and grains, not pizza and french fries. The ferals eat that crap because it's all they can scavenge. But the domesticated pigeons don't recognize Wonder Bread as food. Won't they starve to death?
@@DonyaLane You may be making a mistake assuming what they eat. There are more seeds and other forage around than you might think. Also, you may be underestimating their synergy. There are 400-500 million wild pigeons in the world for a reason. The biggest reason may be people, many of whom feed them good food. They free range in lawns and fields. You will never see pigeons in the woods.
In the city I live, I don't memorize the street names because I already know it...but when I go out of town, instinctually I start memorizing every name of road, landmark, and store around where I stay. Does anyone else do this?
Pigeons are very intelligent creatures created by the Supreme Being! Those pigeons in this video documentary has proven it time and again. So the question still remains the same: what is their navigation secrets? It's still a mystery, that's what makes life so amazing.... :)
PIGEONS DESPERATELY NEED HELP !! 90% of pigeons in cities die in their first year of their lifes. The others don't live longer than 2-3 years. In nature, they can live up to 12-15 years ! They have nothing to eat, they are forced to eat trash and they freeze to death. Pigeons can NOT live naturally in cities. They are only here because of breeders !
they proved that pigeons were smarter than them, and not only because they don't argue with one another clinging to ego theories.It's nor smart to play games of who is smarter than who. It's lunacy.
Well I lived in Pakistan where low flying competition is organized in different areas. People adjust pigeon on different cardboard which is held on long stick. They took them any place and when the pigeon fly on that board it fly here and there and then land on that particular board with no area distinguish. So it's view that board with eye if that owner disappeared that board it continue it flight until it go crazy and fell any place when tired but no go to that place where it has been bought or rare. So smell or magnetic field can't be applied
Incredible video!! Pigeons are such magnificent creatures. It’s so good that the ever changing technological world is finally capturing this. It’s what inspired me to make a pigeon racing documentaries, and it’s what has been done here. There’s such little coverage of pigeon racing and it’s finally emerging. -Logan Gardner
PIGEONS DESPERATELY NEED HELP !! 90% of pigeons in cities die in their first year of their lifes. The others don't live longer than 2-3 years. In nature, they can live up to 12-15 years ! They have nothing to eat, they are forced to eat trash and they freeze to death. Pigeons can NOT live naturally in cities. They are only here because of breeders !
@29:00 honestly.. "getting them used to the fact that their home can move.." Well you have therefore ruined the experiment... It should have been done like.. moving the pigeons some 100-200 miles away.. on an unfamiliar territory, and their home another 100 miles or so in another direction. Therefore if they find their home based on those factor maybe there is truth to that.
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My idea is that for long distance navigation. They use the position of the sun when available to get there east/west, while this is happening the little microscopic magnetic whatever in their head is turning like a compass needle tell it points to the general direction that they want to go. Then they travel until they find and see the big landmarks that they'll recognize like a lake or a river or even a city skyline. Then as they close in they'll see a freeway or a hiway they may have followed before or whatever short range landmarks they recognize. Now they are home..At the time my comment,March 2019.People that race pigeons and people involved with white dovereleases(white homers) are losing birds at an unusual rate across the country.I think it is due to the magnetic north instability and moving about.
Thats so interesting to me that we don't understand how they navigate. It makes me realize how much more we as humans have to learn about the world around us.
According to the Bible there is a glass dome over and above the earth. How do they know that the birds can not see this dome, and somehow use this information to navigate? There are many species of birds that have the ability to migrate . Even a house wren can find its way back to its summer home, year after year. Hawks do this as well as others. Owls don't migrate, I don't think, but rather stay in their home territory year round. I tend to believe that there are probably several ways that these birds can find their way around. It has been discovered in recent years that a larger percentage of pigeons are thought to have been losing their way, and seem to be unable to find their home... but no plausible explanation for this has emerged, to my knowledge.
Even a blind pigeon can find his way home.because if you take a Pigeon and set them in a new home and keep them there for a few months to actually learn the magnetic pulse in that area in that area would actually become his new home
If the pigeon that can't smell, had master its way home before it loses its sense of smell, and toss it in the same location and cant go home then it might be the sense of smell is thier main tool of finding home.
From the comments below. It does not look like anyone appear to understand what they are talking about. Take a human being out to the middle of nowhere without a map. Leave him there. Find your way back on target as a pigeon does. Who is smarter? Food for thought! These birds are taking out hundreds of miles without a map!!!
The floating loft experiment didn't disprove any theory in my opinion , specially the magnetic field theory, because it could be countered by the fact that the registered the magnetism of the spot they first flew in the first place, same thing happens if you take a bird from my loft to yours release it and it'll come back to my house even if I took down my loft. Not a bright experiment.
In Delhi, India, A lot of people keep pigeons as pets and they fly them everyday. Pigeons will always come back on the roof mount of their respective owner. Sometimes they fly so high that they get lost after dark and there owners try to find them in the local area. I think itis their sight that makes them homing pigeons, smell may be not
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I’ve just made friends with and feed my rooftop pigeons, I started to think that they were following me on some of my walks … i found this video fascinating and sketched a pigeon while watching and listening. Thank you. 🕊️
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My goodness ! Pigeons are actually fascinating creatures ! They truly are amazing !! My uncle has pigeons, and every year, he'll go for a ride with his 33 pigeons, let them go from one location to another, and it's always a race on who gets home first 😅. He lives in Glasgow and the further he did in distance with his pigeons was Aberdeen, back to Glasgow, which is over 150 miles. He was really stressed out, of course, but they all came home, safe and sound, thank God. He always loses the race, obviously. You can't beat pigeons 😅😅... By the way, if I may, my uncle tells me that when he releases the pigeons, no matter the location, they'll circle around a few of times and then, zoooom, they'll fly home on a more or less straight line and, again, more or less. Truly astounding and bewildering. I'd love to know how they map their way home, so to speak... Sometimes, I wonder if they have this "echolocation" ability, even if I've read that they apparently aren't able to echolocate but still, makes you wonder, doesn't it ?
Have a good evening 🙏 everyone 😊 ☮️
i love pigeons iam 64 years old from the age of 8 years old i .kept pigeons .i enjoyed the experiment with the barge in the wate ri beleive he should have tried a pigeon nesting on eggs at the beg
ining of the documentary i saw a dog with an amazing bond for its master finding its master pigeons know if you love them too when i was about 20 years old i gave a friend a squeaker never was outside the coop when he released it after a week it came home a distance of 2 miles
I love birds more than any thing else in this planet.
They are beautiful,smart,clever
Especially Pigeons!!
What about micro organisms and bacteria
@@dinosaurcola Like Gonorrhea?
It's a wired thing ,pigeon keeping will never be a one time thing ,even if you get rid of all yer birds u will always get into keeping them again ....it's a beautiful thing
So true,pigeons are apart of youre live got rid of my pigeons a few years ago and im getting back into the sport
And I think even future bird generations could find their way to an old home, of one of their parents or grandparents.. Even if they personally hadn't ever live there.. But knew it was a safe place to go.. Perhaps they can sence people(genetically inherited memories).. When in need of aid, they know where to go... Pigeons are easily my favorite animal!! Their so sweet!! Even the feisty one's!! Lol
You moved the loft. But the loft did not have any mate waiting for the bird to return. Try the experiment with breeding pairs then moving the loft. See if the connection is with the mate in the Loft. The difference between connection with living creature and a non living object.
You need a third group a non controlled group....Just observe the open roof for that group thats not caged the wild ones! That don't have a GPS.....
Pigeon are the best animals in the world. The love I have for pigeon is unconditional.
Shame they dont talk about the amount of birds that go missing.....
If they go missing theyll be in the wilderness living
@@danueltuason6970and they go to other loft to so most of pigeon that missing are safe.
Like birds do every day in the wild?
And predation is a big problem. But the numbers of birds that doesn’t come back is very very small
I raised pigeons since I was a child, for more than 15 years. and I think they use the visual landmarks whenever they are available, and as a proof, we have some huge trees in front of my home, and one day we cut them, and the pigeons took longer time to realise that, they were skimming above the neighbourhood and increase their attitude and increase the radius of the circle with each round, until they learn it and then and surprisingly they made it home.
I found out that, pigeons have very good learning ability, and they fly early in the morning to far places more than I could imagine. In fact, pigeons builds a very nice visual map in their heads, according to the attitude and the shape of the city from the sky and they treat it as a puzzle that they can solve even with partial information.
My idea might be crazy, but I think the good pigeons could even measure the air pressure as they search for their homes, and they build an estimation on which direction might lead to the right place.
God made them.. give Glory to Christ
@@thomasranjit7781 Which God? There's plenty of Gods according to different religions that do not agree with eachother. What about the old Gods that people belived in before, but not anymore?
Agree, also more connected to magnetism
PIGEONS DESPERATELY NEED HELP !!
90% of pigeons in cities die in their first year of their lifes. The others don't live longer than 2-3 years.
In nature, they can live up to 12-15 years !
They have nothing to eat, they are forced to eat trash and they freeze to death.
Pigeons can NOT live naturally in cities. They are only here because of breeders !
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Niiiice! First pigeon perspective video Ive seen, very lovely!! 👌🙏
The egg cracking a bit more each time they showed an interview with that one guy was awesome
Absolutely he is the Legend.
Beautiful when they are tossed fr race. I love them so much, my birds are the only reason I go outside in the winter.
I absolutely love how they all have their own personalities!! It's so adorable!! Lol
My young pet pigeon goes on outings with us. (Hiking, berry picking, flea markets) It is not uncommon for her to fly off when we arrive, but she inevitably circles back and lands near us, and our dogs. She must know where our home is, when in the car she is on the console, or my shoulder, watching everything with interest. But if we're out in the car she flies to me. That leads me to think it has to do with scent. We sleep on my sheepskins on the bed, bird and dog as well. She coos and does the vertical wing flips of delight when she burrows her breast down into sheepskins. She knows our scent very well.
Pigeons are gentle , intelligent; loveable. All this shit humans do with them is just so sad
Juju Rellama Do you feel the same for the chicken, the cow and the fish that suffer from your hands?
1000's of years of domestication and you're worried these pigeons get to fly free and get fed the best food and get to do what they were born to do fly! You're an asshole for implying they are somehow abused. Poor feral pigeons are abused.... tiny cowboy hats and such.
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I agree.
Pigeons are meant to fly they can decide where they want to go they have a choice,unlike horses people don't give horses a choice you care so much about pigeons but dont care about eating Cows,Chickens,fish pigeon fanciers love their pigeons and their pigeons love them thats why the pigeons come home
"When I fall asleep, all I dream about is pigeons."
Same here
Me too sometimes.
Try to see how pigeon in indonesia is played. Go to channel "merpati lovers" you'll find the most interesting pigeon competition.
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They use every teqnique, I think. They use sight and memory first on familiar places as it's easier I think. They use magnetic if far away and on unfamiliar places. When they are like a bit far but not that far that they remember the smell of some parts, they recognise and use that till they come to a part where they recognise visual vise, and then do the first step. Idk, my theory lol
Like humans use eyes mainly to get back home, but if we were blindfolded, we'll use touch and other senses. I think magnetic and smell is like their other senses idk
Wow! I love it!!! I use to raise pigeons when I was in primary school. I would love to do it again!
Used to race pigeons when i was Younger and im getting back into the sport pigeons are apart of my live and i will always find them interesting
@@reinhardtgreyling5422 Great to hear! I miss those days!..great memories with my dad!!!
I had about 60 homing pigeons over a period of around 5 years. I didn't always lock them down, because I was busy driving truck , so in the end one by one most all of them got killed by coopers hawks. One time an owl got in at night and killed 4 pigeons. Another time a coopers hawk got in and killed 2 or 3. Those two incidents happened at night when the bars were down, so the predators went in , but then couldn't get back out. I released each of these predators. The coopers hawk would catch them from time to time, and take them 75 yards up in the woods, and dis-mantle them on a high stump usually. I never once actually saw a pigeon get caught , but I did see them get chased. The hawks don't catch them every time, but may have around a 10 to 25 percent success ratio, I believe.
@@anthonygreene4938 very unfortunate 😕
For me its combination of everything, for shorter distance they rely on visual cues and the overall feeling of the place they live
But for mid and long distance they rely on smell, air pressure, air direction, sun direction,
when you left your pigeon at a different place firstly they circle around, basically figuring out a specific direction using all that mentioned above and proceed their journey in that direction and if in the journey they found something similar to their home, they again circle around that place, they run a list of checks on that place and if it doesn't match their home
they proceed in the direction they figured out in the beginning, during their journey they constantly look for visual cues as well,
Agreed 💯%🎯🕊️
I think you've just about guessed everything there
They have a sense of the magnetic field
Litrally a compas in their heads
In this case if birds could leave 2 or 3 days with their aviary at new location they could be reach at new sight. Pigeons do not follow the new path to search their cage however they search the cage near to their previous location but not far aside. Pigeons find their ways with the help of different sensors. They memorize the sarroundings, use magnatic rays, sun location, wind flow, (try different seasons winter and summer. Birds returning home timings will be different). They also use their nose to find their destiny (try to put a unique scent in the loft, bird will follow the smeel during fly). But I think the most important tool is the visual memory. They can zoom their puple by distance. I would request To research their beak sensor also. Ever noticed pigeon do not eat other then original grains try to put plastic or concrete shape grains (I mean immitation grains) they will pick, hold then drop them but don't swallow It's shows they also have sensor in their beak.
Pigeons eat rocks and sand
@@hitlercat7341
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@@CarolKishen yes , they sure do .
I mesn apparently this dude put blinders on one it still found home
i dont knw if any person of science knws it or not that people here in my area can train the pigeons in such a way that they come back to their mobile houses. they keep changing there location where ever they want but pigeons always find their home which is nt present over a single place
that was my question if you move the loft and release them will they find the loft they flew from if its still there ,move it tomorrow and do it again
How they do it ?
@@Mohamed-ho8ki it's pretty easy ur loft first must be able to move around
@@Mohamed-ho8ki how do you walk,breathe or find yourself back home? THINK ABOUT IT....
You're forgetting to mention pigeons can see ultraviolet light, which could also be how they navigate.
they need to do one were the coop is moving to see if they can fly from it and back then change locations and do it again tomorrow to see how long it takes them to position to a moving loft,
Pigeon are most intelligent bird in world and inocent I love this bird
This video is more interesting than the other made Good Job for all😁😁😁
Beautiful video and beautiful pigeons thanks for this video
All the scientists are wrong about how the pigeons make there way back home' the only do guess work' the scientists have been studying the pigeons for years and they all have different theory about how they get back home. Many different studies have been done over the years they blocked there ears, they blocked there noses, they have done many experiments on pigeons but cannot still determine for sure how they come back home. God says in QURAN that he has given the birds build in navigation ' this is why the pigeons know were there home is. The pigeons can even cross countries and go to the other side of the world. The only problem is when you take them out of the country or the other side of the world is ' simply the pigeon gets exhausted and dies of dehydration, not because they get lost 'the pigeons know were there home is but very long distant just gets them dehydrated. If the birds do not get dehydrated they will come back home ' not a problem for them.
did anyone else catch the cracking ostrich egg at 11:46 in the video. the egg is on the table behind the speaker
Base on my 60 years experience.
In order for a pigeon to learn where the home is.
1- needs to start learning the location by getting exposed to location. That means we have to let them out of the coop frequently until they learn the location. some times after years of staying inside the coop, when the first time we let them out, that will be the last we see the bird.
It has happened that I have moved the coop to the other side of the yard. birds had a hard time going to a new location. they wanted the coop to be in exact place when they were used to it. when they are realized, 1st they are realized from a short distance, then the distance is extended in the same direction. If the bird is realized 100 miles away from for the first time, most of them do not find the home, few find the home weeks sometimes months later. so it is learning the direction by flying over the landscape by seeing it.
35:40 Did he just corrupt the experiment results by crossing the canal and start calling the birds from their new location?
Brilliant video,very interesting,being a lifetime with these wonderful birds,26 year's of racing pigeons best hobby in the world! But I'm so glad one of nature's biggest secret of homing remains a SECRET😊 Fasinating creature the racing/homing pigeon...
This must remain a secret so no one ccan abuse this wondeeful bird.
An excellent instructive video!
17:11 this could be prooved by taking one pieon from Germany to Argentina,,, and see if he gets confused since on the Southern hemiisphere the directions should be the opposiite of what he is used to.
What I feel is there might be combination of these hypothesis that can explain this process. Recognizing and flying back within short distances may be explained by one theory and that of long distance may be explained by the others or theses hypothesis may be used simultaneously with one superior in decision making than the other as per the different situation I.e. the distances they fly back.
I dream about them all night and firat thing I do upon waking is get to my loft. That is so passionate and beautiful.
notoriousqueenpigeon I feel the same. Pigeons are amazing.
qpNotorious comparto tu opinión amigo amo las palomas 🕊 son increibles solo alos que nos gustan lo entendemos 😎
nice video.! happy flying everyone 👊
beautiful beautiful bird....i have pigeon and they are magnificient
11:46 yo am i tripping or did that egg just crack
lol
s r nice one
Yea that's what I thought too lol
One time a white with spots feral pigeon was given to me. It stayed over night in a cage separated from my other pigeons as I could not tell if it was carrying any disease or not.
This story took place in Athens in the 80s. Athens from air is a cement labyrinth with many thousands of feral pigeons as well as 100s of Vouta pigeon keepers.
Next morning I loaded her in my car, with some other lesser pigeons, and gave all of them to a person 10 miles away. I hate to admit they were all given to be eaten.
But when I came back home ..she was there.. she had escaped, as I learned later, from that guys handling and returned faster than me..
I kept her for long time simply out of respect. I even flew her with the Voutas.
She eventually was taken by the peregrine a couple of years after. But how she found a place on which she only lived on night, is a mystery
She fell in love with a psychopath that she didn't know was going to sell her to be someone's dinner. 😢 😭 💔 Thank god you treated her petter when she came back. RIP 🐦
@@sarahmurphy-nf4yl Did not sell them. They are feral pigeons worth no money. Not my fault animals eat other animals, and not your fault. That's the way life is.
Q: What soap do birds use?
A: Dove.
I use dawn
But the one that says it’s safe for baby ducks
It’s really gentle and effective for cleaning and bathing my pigeons
I love this bird I have 10 but don’t know any one to ask questions and the net is next to useless so I’m spending my spare spare time watching you tube pigeon films
What would you like to know?
Pigeon racing is inhumane and nothing you argue will change my view. It is cruel to take them away from their home and then toss them out to struggle to find their way home. Just cruel. Many die on the way, they are attacked by hawks, just get tired and die slow, lonely painful deaths and are even shot. It should be limited to a more realistic distance...NOT hundreds of kilometers.....!!!
panther105 there is also hawks and hunters in the wild genius
@@someguy12593 no need to be rude. I Just feel it's a pointless "hobby". Pigeons in nature face daily hazards. I see it every day on the waterfront where I work. But they aren't required to fly long distances just to get back to safety. Different situation taking them far away and releasing them. It's inhumane and should be banned just like cock and dog fighting. Enjoy your narrow minded viewpoint.
panther105 no one gives a shit what you feel 😂
Thank you for making this wonderful video.
What color are the birds on the title page of this video? They’re purple and blue and green speckled. Beautiful
My theory is that pigeons comes back using all of that
1- sky starts son rising son sets to recognise east wast south and north then. No 2
- magnetic field to get more directions to home. Then 3
3- smell for May half of the distance will use the smell
4- the eye sign and that will start working from the distance that birds have been trained from.
Could the pigeons be homed at sea where land mass and olfactory arent used then brought to land to be released?
Great episode about pigeons!
The McArthur event pigeon racing in the Philippines 🇵🇭 is one of the toughest for the racing aficionados 😎👊
I love pigeons. Nice video😊👍🏼
Good
Birds use a magnetic field in there body with the magnetic Feel in the earth Which pushes different magnetic pulse that the earth has in the equator I’ve been Raising and flying Pigeons-for 45 years
Did you ever looked at a pigeon when it is cozy and back in the nest, when it rests. Pigeon will stick out its tongue every now and then, like its tasting air. It will do this repeatedly. I think it, maybe like a reptile, remembering the smell and the taste of its home. "Pigeons that don't smell don't home" and that is a fact. If it is a combination of things than that is one of them for sure.
DuneDemon8 I agree with you but how they recognize the smell of their home from a long distance through new smells to them ? I think we won't understand that at least for now .
عبد الله we have poor sense of smell so it is hard to us to believe but smells can distribute remarkable distances in high attitudes. Pigeons circle once they are released maybe picking the faintest familiarities in the air first. Also they don't pick the shortest way home always they sometimes go slightly off courses maybe if the smells got distorted by the wind.
Hi .,To me. They used ., landscapes. Smells .,magnetism and atmosphere. They have a super power gift..love pigeons. Since I was 10 now 50 and still love them.
The olfactory theory is nonsense because all weather systems have an east to or from west movement . So the birds flying north south have no indicators from smell because once in unfamiliar territory they cannot bank on receiving the scents or smells from the north or south, only from east or west , and they still make it home.
Then what about birds who make the South Africa to Siberia migration for the first time unassisted by others, just instinctively alone? Or the trans Himalayan migration ?
Amazing video!
Love it , bless you all .
Hate to be a wet blanket (not) but it's probably a combination of things. Was the coriolus force mentioned at all? Sight, smell, magnetism, coriolus probably all figure in. Do pigeon flyers tend to fly birds east to west in the southern hemisphere? When I was flying birds in MA we flew west to east with the prevailing winds.
There is also sound, memory and a birds ability to "think" to consider. Birds precisely imprint things we don't understand such as recognizing their offspring and their mate and migrating to a specific place. How does a starling know it's mate in a flock of thousands of birds that all look alike? I'm betting it isn't smell and that one singular focused answer isn't the answer.
when I have been away from home (NW UK) for a while and drive back up the M6, it's the smell of the humidity that I always notice... a sort of earthy, musty, moist, cool feeling smell. Can't say I particularly like it. The trees are always getting greener too, all the way up the road (summer). Pigeons 100% know the time and also the weather. May have been that they didn't set off because they knew there was a storm. They always know about storms, hours before. Maybe these people don't know as much as they think about pigeons, but then if it were some supernatural force, it would have been there after the storm and they would have set off... so, for me.. I can totally discount that theory as airy fairy
Very Interesting….clearly shows the intricacies and mystery of their homing instinct
Pigeons can be shown to possess a biological chronometer, plus a biological sextant and altimeter. A pigeons navigational ability is restricted to finding its home location from a point it may not have previously visited, or navigating between its home and other locations it is familiar with.
Why over-complicate and misinterpret, something which is utilising such simple and well understood principles, (which we humans have been using for hundreds of years.)
Absolutely nothing paranormal !
Landmarks I believe is the key on their navigation.
I thought it was cruel to release the pigeons who were denied their natural senses, such as, the ones who were raised in the plastic-sided aviary or given drops of Novocaine before their flight. Once those birds are lost, they can't fend for themselves, because they were raised as domestic animals. I know this, because a lost and exhausted racing pigeon has landed outside my apartment, and I'm the only one giving her food and water. She can't survive in the wild.
Most homing pigeons lost eventually hook up with wild birds and do fine. In big city flocks that people feed you are likely to find banded birds. In my area out in the country there was a guy who had white homers he released at weddings etc. White homers are better at being white than finding their way back. Sometimes they got lost and you see the pure white birds with feral flocks fairly nearby.
@@davidspahr4020 , but domesticated pigeons are raised on seeds and grains, not pizza and french fries. The ferals eat that crap because it's all they can scavenge. But the domesticated pigeons don't recognize Wonder Bread as food. Won't they starve to death?
@@DonyaLane You may be making a mistake assuming what they eat. There are more seeds and other forage around than you might think. Also, you may be underestimating their synergy. There are 400-500 million wild pigeons in the world for a reason. The biggest reason may be people, many of whom feed them good food. They free range in lawns and fields. You will never see pigeons in the woods.
I live in the country. A lot of pigeons around. No one feeds them. There is no pizza or french fries for them to have.
@@davidspahr4020 , ok... thank you for explaining that.
Letting all the senses together using a certain sense where it is most useful. They are amazing 👏
In the city I live, I don't memorize the street names because I already know it...but when I go out of town, instinctually I start memorizing every name of road, landmark, and store around where I stay. Does anyone else do this?
Pigeons are very intelligent creatures created by the Supreme Being! Those pigeons in this video documentary has proven it time and again. So the question still remains the same: what is their navigation secrets? It's still a mystery, that's what makes life so amazing.... :)
Is this "supreme being" who guides them, this is the......secret ;)
@@oanas7681 there intelligence brain?
PIGEONS DESPERATELY NEED HELP !!
90% of pigeons in cities die in their first year of their lifes. The others don't live longer than 2-3 years.
In nature, they can live up to 12-15 years !
They have nothing to eat, they are forced to eat trash and they freeze to death.
Pigeons can NOT live naturally in cities. They are only here because of breeders !
My country Pigeons are very beautiful and they have a good body shape and flying very fast i love
Nice video 👍🏻 thanks guys❤
they proved that pigeons were smarter than them, and not only because they don't argue with one another clinging to ego theories.It's nor smart to play games of who is smarter than who. It's lunacy.
they were like, "why are you taking our home out to a stormy sea? Let's look for a new home in the area our old home was. "
what on earth just happened at 9:27!?!
"Only armed with a floating garden shed"
Best Quote Ever.
Beautiful and informative discussion 🌷
Well I lived in Pakistan where low flying competition is organized in different areas. People adjust pigeon on different cardboard which is held on long stick. They took them any place and when the pigeon fly on that board it fly here and there and then land on that particular board with no area distinguish. So it's view that board with eye if that owner disappeared that board it continue it flight until it go crazy and fell any place when tired but no go to that place where it has been bought or rare. So smell or magnetic field can't be applied
Incredible video!! Pigeons are such magnificent creatures. It’s so good that the ever changing technological world is finally capturing this. It’s what inspired me to make a pigeon racing documentaries, and it’s what has been done here. There’s such little coverage of pigeon racing and it’s finally emerging. -Logan Gardner
PIGEONS DESPERATELY NEED HELP !!
90% of pigeons in cities die in their first year of their lifes. The others don't live longer than 2-3 years.
In nature, they can live up to 12-15 years !
They have nothing to eat, they are forced to eat trash and they freeze to death.
Pigeons can NOT live naturally in cities. They are only here because of breeders !
Amazing! were i can find these kinds of pigeons ???
Can pigeons navigation not be due to smell, sight and magnetism?
@29:00 honestly.. "getting them used to the fact that their home can move.."
Well you have therefore ruined the experiment...
It should have been done like.. moving the pigeons some 100-200 miles away.. on an unfamiliar territory, and their home another 100 miles or so in another direction.
Therefore if they find their home based on those factor maybe there is truth to that.
Did anyone noticed the egg hatched behind him at 29:11
I think this is camera trick
Lolz. U didn't hear a crunching sound. It's so loud.
Good afternoon, greeting friend Beautiful pigeons, beautiful animals. , Purebred. 👍🕊🤝
I loved having pigeons!!
The Pigeon Corps during WW11 was sometimes forced to move their lofts near battle zones. The still usually got back.
What about scrambling the assumed magnetic field somehow and then seeing how they home in . As for smell do the same .
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Enjoying this at 3:00 Am thanks to the algorithm. 🤣
My idea is that for long distance navigation. They use the position of the sun when available to get there east/west, while this is happening the little microscopic magnetic whatever in their head is turning like a compass needle tell it points to the general direction that they want to go. Then they travel until they find and see the big landmarks that they'll recognize like a lake or a river or even a city skyline. Then as they close in they'll see a freeway or a hiway they may have followed before or whatever short range landmarks they recognize. Now they are home..At the time my comment,March 2019.People that race pigeons and people involved with white dovereleases(white homers) are losing birds at an unusual rate across the country.I think it is due to the magnetic north instability and moving about.
36:57 is it hatching?
Thats so interesting to me that we don't understand how they navigate. It makes me realize how much more we as humans have to learn about the world around us.
It is combination of all three, plus a fourth, solar polarization of light.
According to the Bible there is a glass dome over and above the earth. How do they know that the birds can not see this dome, and somehow use this information to navigate? There are many species of birds that have the ability to migrate . Even a house wren can find its way back to its summer home, year after year. Hawks do this as well as others. Owls don't migrate, I don't think, but rather stay in their home territory year round. I tend to believe that there are probably several ways that these birds can find their way around. It has been discovered in recent years that a larger percentage of pigeons are thought to have been losing their way, and seem to be unable to find their home... but no plausible explanation for this has emerged, to my knowledge.
Even a blind pigeon can find his way home.because if you take a Pigeon and set them in a new home and keep them there for a few months to actually learn the magnetic pulse in that area in that area would actually become his new home
Not racing pigeons/ homers
Not always, some old birds will escape and head for their old home even after years, especially the good ones.
If the pigeon that can't smell, had master its way home before it loses its sense of smell, and toss it in the same location and cant go home then it might be the sense of smell is thier main tool of finding home.
From the comments below. It does not look like anyone appear to understand what they are talking about. Take a human being out to the middle of nowhere without a map. Leave him there. Find your way back on target as a pigeon does. Who is smarter? Food for thought! These birds are taking out hundreds of miles without a map!!!
I give mine a map.
Never thought i'd hear the phrase "For some people, pigeon racing is a matter of life and death".
They are amazing that’s why I have them love them
At 29:12 the egg behind him hatched
It's about the smelling sensation of the pigeons .They have a big nose that can smell each of the county , state , country. They find their way home.
The floating loft experiment didn't disprove any theory in my opinion , specially the magnetic field theory, because it could be countered by the fact that the registered the magnetism of the spot they first flew in the first place, same thing happens if you take a bird from my loft to yours release it and it'll come back to my house even if I took down my loft. Not a bright experiment.
A feel. I have gotten lost and found my way home on a feel. BUT my home did not move It was right where I left it.
In Delhi, India, A lot of people keep pigeons as pets and they fly them everyday. Pigeons will always come back on the roof mount of their respective owner. Sometimes they fly so high that they get lost after dark and there owners try to find them in the local area.
I think itis their sight that makes them homing pigeons, smell may be not