as an audio engineer, some feedback about eq boost. as well as boosting some bass frequencies, you should also do a high pass filter, at 100hz or so. that way you are boosting the frequencies relevant to your voice but cutting the really low ambient fluff like road noise. raise the high pass filter till you hear it taking body out of your voice.
Ditto for bass roll off switches. A vanlife vlog we’ve watched for years - he bought a new diesel pickup and the YT playback is horrible when they’re in the truck. Editing on a little notebook is great, but it helps to test on all sorts of devices - to lockdown your mixdown routine. I almost typed poutine.
I keep going back to my old Sennheiser MKE400 micro-shotgun. The battery power gives much better volume and distance pickup than the battery-less ones that rely on the camera pre-amps.
@@UneducatedPhotographer that's pretty dang perfect for kasey if paired with the a7s3 and its "on sale" right now. Can't beat no cables, no battery, no on/off AND a pure digital stream injected straight into the file at 24bit/48khz. For my A7S3, its going to be more of a rigged pro setup for corporate world, commercials, Docs, etc. So I picked up the XLR-K3M which is $100 off right now. With it going into the A7S3 you can feed it 4 channels at 24bit/48khz, I have 2 sets of Rode Wireless Go mics for 2 person interviews, and I boom the MKH-416 (I like to have both boom and Lav) and the xlr mic that comes with the XLR-K3M will be backup audio track. Nothing to do in post, yet have FS/FX lile controls of the 4 audio channels before they go into the A7S3 as a digital stream. The ECM-B1M is just over 2oz, so Kasey will likely prefer that, but even the XLR-K3M is around 6oz with the XLR mic, both doing 24bit/48khz digital straight to file and both needing no batteries or on/off or having no wires going into camera (except where mics plug into the XLR-K3M obviously, but no cables going the camera that can break, be forgotten, pick up interference, etc)
@@jamesshort6856 I use my Zoom F4 when in studio but for run and gun or one man interview/corporate stuff in thinking I will use the XLR-K3M with its 4 channel straight into the camera and not have to mess with batteries, on/off, plus in post my 4 digital tracks are already baked into the media files so no post work.. The one thing I'm curious to test is my zoom F4 goes to 24bit/192khz where the XLR-K3M only 24bit/48khz...
Dynamic range is a thing for mics:) What I listen for when judging mics is transient response, resonant frequencies ( frequencies that spike) and self noise. Great review. It is better to make sure the mics are levelled as close a possible when judging. People typically hear louder volume as better sound. Love your channel!
You literally snatched a comment outta me bro. A comprehensive comparison you have put together there Plus the humor really made it worthwhile to watch it till the end lol.. Keep up the good work.. cheers
TH I preferred the deeper bassiness of the Rode, but in any case neither the Deity or the Sennheiser are available locally and the Rode is about half the expected price of the senny at NZD (pacific peso) $109 and the Deity just isn't being imported
Rode best all around. Best directionality. I liked the sound outdoors and in. No Eq boost - that was too bassy. The others have their strong points, but the Rode has no fatal flaws and is cheaper.
Put the Rode deadcat on the Deity! Also, the Zoom H4 deadcat will go over the whole mic if you don’t want to use the switch. I use the Rode on the front and a little foamie on the back with the D4.
Hi Cassey great comparison. The one i feel recorded better your voice was the Sennheiser. Feel that out of the 3 did a much better job of the bunch. Like always the content of your videos as it comes across as honest and right to the point. Thanks for your effort and fun ways "_"
Sennheiser looks promising. But the deity beats everything with their two channels. The backsided mic is just dope. So much so, that I would use as the main mic.
Here is a genius idea for (the) Sennheiser : have the mic mounted on a swivel base than can rotate 180deg. The audio cable connection would be on the base (then it’s not moving when you rotate the mic). You attach the base to hot shoe and never touch it again. Then you can just easily rotate the mic 180deg depending on your vlogging situation (front or rear facing). Perhaps have a detent or easy locking mechanism to keep mic at 0deg or 180deg. Cable stays in place at all time and you always get perfect sound. Just like a flippy screen. Bam !! Perfect vlogging mic 🤓 (they’d better send me a free one when they make it 😄)
This was so funny especially when the had the Sennheier T-Shirt on. I ordered the Deity the other day because of the rear mic. But I might buy the sennheier too.
Audio engineers: tries to make back sound rejection on shotgun mics as strong as possible Vlogers: this mic sounds more quiet from behind. Thats why its worst
If you find you have too much bass with some mics, try Multiband Compression or Dynamic EQ instead of Standard EQ. It stops the bass from becoming overpowering. Also, a mic being more 'sensitive' just means it'll have less 'static' noise, not less background noise. Background noise has to do with the polar pattern, and it appear the Sennheiser is supercardioid so will pick up mostly from the front (fairly wide), some from the back (very narrow) and none from the sides. The rode will be more cardioid (more from the sides but nothing from the back in relation to the Sennheiser).
My choice is the 1) Rode then 2) Sennheiser then 3) Deity. The Deity sound is a little tinny but is great as a rear mic. The price, sound quality and easy of use put the rode first overall but the Sennheiser is a close second and the Deity a close third. Overall you wouldn't lose with any of these mic's. Oh sure pick Sennheiser because they gave you a T-Shirt 😂😂😂
(1) Inside Sennheiser sounds good. Outside Sennheiser sounds terrible. It seems to pick up white noise and amplify it. Can you turn the Rode mic around on the camera? At that point it would have been a clear winner. (2) Can you make a similar test for lapel mics? (3) In the end just say 'no' to on-camera mics for vlogging.
In an otherwise complicated test, standout feature was the shirt. 'Sennheiser': you're going places, heck you've been places - the stories ! Deity Duo or Rode, you're just sitting in a bus shelter - shirtless in this particular case, but I'm imagining how it would be if you had their shirts to wear.
Excellent review. The only thing that was confusing is the part where you replayed the short-clip tests in a row. For a moment I thought I rewinded the video.
"Big in one end, and tiny in the rear.. I've been told that" man, you made me spit out my coffee twice today, hilarious, but also a solid review. To round this out you should have looked at the Movo VXR10-PRO at under $50 in this category its also hard to beat even compared to the MKE 200. And then to go to the extreme on the other end. There's an option that requites no cable, no turning on or off, no battery to replace, and has additional features for mic patterns and plugged into the A7S3 it sends a pure digital stream at 24bit/48khz straight to your camera through the MI hot shoe. The Sony ECM-B1M and it just happens to be "on sale" right now. ONLY negative besides the price, is you cant boom it, it has to be in the MI hot shoe. My XLR-K3M did come with a reroute MI cable, but its only for relocating an MI hotshoe about 12" away
@@davidmiller4594 yes normally the ECM-B1M is $349 (on sale for $319) and the XLR-K3M is normally $599 (on sale for $499) Sony keeps the price in check on most of its products so you don't just look for the cheapest place, you instead look for the place yo u prefer to work with
Deity for run and gun. Rode for front audio only. Sennheiser for mostly indoor work and stabilized setups. You're welcome. 👍 The cost differences aren't worth the bother, just get the one you need.
as with video, there are two ways to tune your mic. Either tweak to make it look/sound good, or calibrate to make it look/sound accurate. Usually the latter needs to be done first, before adjusting to taste. So I would recommend playing and recording some sample notes at different pitches but at the same volume, then eq the video so that any quiet pitches are corrected; but make sure you dont over correct, as it can have a knock on effect. Use 1khz as the main reference volume.
Well, the Rode is a cardioid mic, it's not supposed to sound good (or at all) from the back, that's the whole point. And if a cardioid mic is what you're after, that's a good thing. If not, then get another mic.
I thought Diety sounded the best from rear outside. Wonder if there is an attachement to allow having the Diety attached backwards to use the rear mic as front. Indoors I preferred Senheiser.
Hey! I remember you from your vegetarian channel or carnivore or whatever it was. Cool to stumble across your other channel. Or... is this a 2nd channel? Now I'm confused. Anyway... didn't even know Senn was in the running. Just bought the Diety because of the dual capsule, but the Senn was pretty dang good from behind (pun intended) so I might be returning and the getting the Senn. Thanks for the video.
Sorry, still think the Rode is the one to beat. In your traffic noise test, it had the best rejection of the lot, so I would guess it's a tighter pickup pattern, which could be useful in cities and other noisy environments. And it's the cheapest!
Rhode video micro go coupled with Rhode cinnamon buns and the Q-link for protection from the cosmic rays, and you’ve found the perfect set-up. C’mon Cinny Buns, roll me over.
Outdoors the Rode did great. So unless you had a need to talk from behind the camera it did just fine. Besides... you could place it on a cheap mount and spin it around when you need it and turn it back when you don't. Problem solved
Rode sounds best indoors, Sennheiser rear outside. To me but I know nothing. Personally, I use only Boya (lavs and sometimes their shotgun). Similar quality to the big brands but at a fraction of the price.
Thanks. Maybe Diety will pay attention to all the reviews on their windmuffs & fix the problem! BTW, you kind of remind me of Omar on OmarGosh. Similar humor.
You should have whispered through the mics to see which one had the best Vokeh...😂
"Vokeh" 🤣 is this a thing? It needs to be a thing.
Vokeh should be like talking through a kazoo. (Wax paper + comb if you’re crafty)
Or Voneh?
as an audio engineer, some feedback about eq boost. as well as boosting some bass frequencies, you should also do a high pass filter, at 100hz or so. that way you are boosting the frequencies relevant to your voice but cutting the really low ambient fluff like road noise. raise the high pass filter till you hear it taking body out of your voice.
So, what is your top choice amongst the 3 mics?
Ditto for bass roll off switches. A vanlife vlog we’ve watched for years - he bought a new diesel pickup and the YT playback is horrible when they’re in the truck. Editing on a little notebook is great, but it helps to test on all sorts of devices - to lockdown your mixdown routine. I almost typed poutine.
I dont give a flying F-Stop what microphone you use. What I wanna see is some more squirrels in slow motion
But... what about those cute sounds that squirrels make ?!?
“I don’t give a flying F-Stop” is my new favorite phrase. Thank you for this gem! 📷
Somebody help this guy. Help him
this is not only the best comparison, you are such a funny and cool dude, this was a really great video
All I want is the perfect microphone. All I want is the perfect microphone for my Sony A7SIII.
yesss! lmfao
Sony make the perfect microphone for the A7Siii but it cost like 400$
Thinking the same thing. The Sennheiser really sounds great!
I keep going back to my old Sennheiser MKE400 micro-shotgun. The battery power gives much better volume and distance pickup than the battery-less ones that rely on the camera pre-amps.
I love my deity d3Pro.
You convinced me regards the MKE especially when you slapped that EQ on it! Off to Vistek first thing tomorrow to grab one!
They got the 400 now too.
Now the perfect camera is found we need the perfect mic
ECM-B1M?
What about the Movo VXR10-PRO, since we are talking cheap non powered mics
@@UneducatedPhotographer that's pretty dang perfect for kasey if paired with the a7s3 and its "on sale" right now. Can't beat no cables, no battery, no on/off AND a pure digital stream injected straight into the file at 24bit/48khz.
For my A7S3, its going to be more of a rigged pro setup for corporate world, commercials, Docs, etc. So I picked up the XLR-K3M which is $100 off right now. With it going into the A7S3 you can feed it 4 channels at 24bit/48khz, I have 2 sets of Rode Wireless Go mics for 2 person interviews, and I boom the MKH-416 (I like to have both boom and Lav) and the xlr mic that comes with the XLR-K3M will be backup audio track.
Nothing to do in post, yet have FS/FX lile controls of the 4 audio channels before they go into the A7S3 as a digital stream.
The ECM-B1M is just over 2oz, so Kasey will likely prefer that, but even the XLR-K3M is around 6oz with the XLR mic, both doing 24bit/48khz digital straight to file and both needing no batteries or on/off or having no wires going into camera (except where mics plug into the XLR-K3M obviously, but no cables going the camera that can break, be forgotten, pick up interference, etc)
@@Hangs4Fun rig up a 416 and a zoom f6. Perfect.
@@jamesshort6856 I use my Zoom F4 when in studio but for run and gun or one man interview/corporate stuff in thinking I will use the XLR-K3M with its 4 channel straight into the camera and not have to mess with batteries, on/off, plus in post my 4 digital tracks are already baked into the media files so no post work..
The one thing I'm curious to test is my zoom F4 goes to 24bit/192khz where the XLR-K3M only 24bit/48khz...
Dynamic range is a thing for mics:) What I listen for when judging mics is transient response, resonant frequencies ( frequencies that spike) and self noise. Great review. It is better to make sure the mics are levelled as close a possible when judging. People typically hear louder volume as better sound. Love your channel!
You literally snatched a comment outta me bro. A comprehensive comparison you have put together there Plus the humor really made it worthwhile to watch it till the end lol.. Keep up the good work.. cheers
The Sennheiser design looks nice. Supercardioid would explain why it picks up more from the back.
TH I preferred the deeper bassiness of the Rode, but in any case neither the Deity or the Sennheiser are available locally and the Rode is about half the expected price of the senny at NZD (pacific peso) $109 and the Deity just isn't being imported
Rode best all around. Best directionality. I liked the sound outdoors and in. No Eq boost - that was too bassy.
The others have their strong points, but the Rode has no fatal flaws and is cheaper.
I use the Senny MKE 400 and mount it backwards if I'm talking when filming...sounds great except for the odd poke in the eye now and then.
Put the Rode deadcat on the Deity! Also, the Zoom H4 deadcat will go over the whole mic if you don’t want to use the switch. I use the Rode on the front and a little foamie on the back with the D4.
None of them have IBAS (In body audio stab), audio slo mo, alternate audio profiles or flippy mics. Disappointing 😟
Sure they do - that's exactly what the shock mount does.
Man this was EXACTLY the review I needed! Haha and I was laughing throughout it. Brilliant job man!
Hi Cassey great comparison. The one i feel recorded better your voice was the Sennheiser. Feel that out of the 3 did a much better job of the bunch. Like always the content of your videos as it comes across as honest and right to the point. Thanks for your effort and fun ways "_"
Very helpful comparison video 💚
Rode is still competitive and amazing value.
That was a good comprehensive test.
hey man.....love your videos! can you tell me what lav mic you use? do you go wireless?
If the winds are calm, is it wind?
I preferred the sound of the Rode first, followed by the Sennheiser in 2nd.
Holy cow. Great work on this video (seriously).
Your humor (humour in Canada, right? Haha) makes the review style videos so much more enjoyable. Keep up the good work!
Finally we know what the secret mic was 👍🏻
Sennheiser all the way. The clarity is way better. Your Ess'es don't scratch the ears compared to the other 2
Sennheiser looks promising. But the deity beats everything with their two channels. The backsided mic is just dope. So much so, that I would use as the main mic.
Here is a genius idea for (the) Sennheiser : have the mic mounted on a swivel base than can rotate 180deg. The audio cable connection would be on the base (then it’s not moving when you rotate the mic). You attach the base to hot shoe and never touch it again. Then you can just easily rotate the mic 180deg depending on your vlogging situation (front or rear facing). Perhaps have a detent or easy locking mechanism to keep mic at 0deg or 180deg. Cable stays in place at all time and you always get perfect sound. Just like a flippy screen. Bam !! Perfect vlogging mic 🤓 (they’d better send me a free one when they make it 😄)
We’ll do it.
This was so funny especially when the had the Sennheier T-Shirt on. I ordered the Deity the other day because of the rear mic. But I might buy the sennheier too.
DUDE I love your work! Great presentations!
Look out, Curtis Judd, the competition has become heavy in mic reviews.
Curtis is like a scholarly Dr.. Frankenstein while Kasey is the comic Igor
@@innercynic2784 Well said!
Audio engineers: tries to make back sound rejection on shotgun mics as strong as possible
Vlogers: this mic sounds more quiet from behind. Thats why its worst
The Sennheiser mic was best; by the way thanks for the tee-shirt fits great!
:) agree
On the Rode Video Micro you can use the grooves on the tighting wheel are to hold the cord from flopping around.
Actually, a bit surprised by how thin the MKE 200 sounds for voice. It seems to be missing something on the low end.
Hahaha, the t-shirt switch was brilliant
so far, the best comparison. I am still a fan of the Røde, but Sennheiser is catching up!
Sennheiser has been doing sound way, way longer.
They all sound tinny but if I only had the choice between the three, would pick the Rode.
I assume you have adhd, but either way you're a genius! because you're using those bloopers to create movie magic, and it's amazing!
Finally, we get to crown the champion of 2015!
Good comparison. Thanks!
"Smallest package, best wind-muff, best sound" -- that's what she said....
Good review. Epic cinema quality as dog pees on picnic table while you talk in the background about the microphone. 😂
Deity was the best by far! I have just ordered it...
The 404 sounds like it’s back to normal after lockdown
If you find you have too much bass with some mics, try Multiband Compression or Dynamic EQ instead of Standard EQ. It stops the bass from becoming overpowering.
Also, a mic being more 'sensitive' just means it'll have less 'static' noise, not less background noise. Background noise has to do with the polar pattern, and it appear the Sennheiser is supercardioid so will pick up mostly from the front (fairly wide), some from the back (very narrow) and none from the sides. The rode will be more cardioid (more from the sides but nothing from the back in relation to the Sennheiser).
Sennheiser & Rode microphone both just as good, all them lovely camera,s you have there, Didn,t see that sammy boy NX1 there....LOL
My choice is the 1) Rode then 2) Sennheiser then 3) Deity. The Deity sound is a little tinny but is great as a rear mic. The price, sound quality and easy of use put the rode first overall but the Sennheiser is a close second and the Deity a close third. Overall you wouldn't lose with any of these mic's. Oh sure pick Sennheiser because they gave you a T-Shirt 😂😂😂
LOVE this video.
Thanks for this! I've been looking for a good shotgun mic for a small vlogging setup and it looks like the Senny fits the bill!
Great review as always.
Sennheiser definitely the best sound. My Rode sounds shit, don’t think dropping them several times helps. Going to get the Sennheiser.
Rode with the fur gets a lot of wind rumble, but EQ highpass will usually amend it
I want a Sennheiser T-Shirt Kasey! ❤️
Azden MX-30 rules them all. Stereo and shotgun mic both in the same package!
With or without EQ?
(1) Inside Sennheiser sounds good. Outside Sennheiser sounds terrible. It seems to pick up white noise and amplify it. Can you turn the Rode mic around on the camera? At that point it would have been a clear winner. (2) Can you make a similar test for lapel mics? (3) In the end just say 'no' to on-camera mics for vlogging.
4:28: GOOOOOOOD DOG
In an otherwise complicated test, standout feature was the shirt. 'Sennheiser': you're going places, heck you've been places - the stories ! Deity Duo or Rode, you're just sitting in a bus shelter - shirtless in this particular case, but I'm imagining how it would be if you had their shirts to wear.
“Tiny in the rear...” OMG he’s making prison shower videos with Tiny now! 🤯
is Kasey the new owner of Camera Canada?
Excellent review. The only thing that was confusing is the part where you replayed the short-clip tests in a row. For a moment I thought I rewinded the video.
I use my Rode micro indoors and the Deity pro outside for backup audio.
Rode is the best out of the box. What's crazy is how bad the other two sound without eq!
Length is definitely more important, I like the rode the most from experience.
Hopefully I can get my first camera soon 🤔😬
I actually preferred the Sennheiser without the EQ boost you put on at the end. It makes your voice super nasal.
Where are all the frequencies below 400Hz or so? Is that the Fuji preamps doing that? Edit: with the EQ boosted section is sounded more normal
"So it depends on what you like, Girth or length" Lmao. Nowhere else would you hear descriptions and preferences said lile that, lol
"Big in one end, and tiny in the rear.. I've been told that" man, you made me spit out my coffee twice today, hilarious, but also a solid review.
To round this out you should have looked at the Movo VXR10-PRO at under $50 in this category its also hard to beat even compared to the MKE 200.
And then to go to the extreme on the other end. There's an option that requites no cable, no turning on or off, no battery to replace, and has additional features for mic patterns and plugged into the A7S3 it sends a pure digital stream at 24bit/48khz straight to your camera through the MI hot shoe. The Sony ECM-B1M and it just happens to be "on sale" right now. ONLY negative besides the price, is you cant boom it, it has to be in the MI hot shoe. My XLR-K3M did come with a reroute MI cable, but its only for relocating an MI hotshoe about 12" away
@@Hangs4Fun
Is $318 the sale price on that Sony ecm b1m you mentioned? That's only $30 from retail. Oh, its the price I found on ebay, b&h and amazon.
@@davidmiller4594 yes normally the ECM-B1M is $349 (on sale for $319) and the XLR-K3M is normally $599 (on sale for $499)
Sony keeps the price in check on most of its products so you don't just look for the cheapest place, you instead look for the place yo u prefer to work with
How did u get the deity? Everywhere it says will ship in october
All I want is the perfect micro-phone...links below of course
In this class I haven't found a mic they beats the rode. Perfect bass and clarity. The dead cat works well.
Check out the Movo VXR10-PRO. $50 mic that Gene Nagata (Potato Jet) is using at the moment.
So about that GoPro 9 leak with the front screen... Will you be closing the channel soon???
Deity for run and gun. Rode for front audio only. Sennheiser for mostly indoor work and stabilized setups. You're welcome. 👍 The cost differences aren't worth the bother, just get the one you need.
as with video, there are two ways to tune your mic. Either tweak to make it look/sound good, or calibrate to make it look/sound accurate. Usually the latter needs to be done first, before adjusting to taste.
So I would recommend playing and recording some sample notes at different pitches but at the same volume, then eq the video so that any quiet pitches are corrected; but make sure you dont over correct, as it can have a knock on effect. Use 1khz as the main reference volume.
Well, the Rode is a cardioid mic, it's not supposed to sound good (or at all) from the back, that's the whole point. And if a cardioid mic is what you're after, that's a good thing. If not, then get another mic.
Lol your videos are just the frickin’ best. Don’t change a thing. Ever. 🤣🤘🏻
I thought Diety sounded the best from rear outside. Wonder if there is an attachement to allow having the Diety attached backwards to use the rear mic as front. Indoors I preferred Senheiser.
As he reaches down to his lap, he says "This little stubby boy..." I won't even mention the "back side muff." Wait, I just did. OMG
shit! i've been smiling all by myself alone while watching this.. not sure if i'm watching mic review or comedy central.. 😂
You bought a new MIC, cant believe it, show both
Hey! I remember you from your vegetarian channel or carnivore or whatever it was. Cool to stumble across your other channel. Or... is this a 2nd channel? Now I'm confused. Anyway... didn't even know Senn was in the running. Just bought the Diety because of the dual capsule, but the Senn was pretty dang good from behind (pun intended) so I might be returning and the getting the Senn. Thanks for the video.
You sure you didn't mount the Deity backward? :D
rode just released a splitter cable so you can have the front facing video micro and then use lav mic from behind , if that helps ?
Why not just use the lav?
Camera Conspiracies Sorry meant to have same as deity set up but better quality lol
If it's just behind the camera use, can't you just turn the Rode around?
Dude i just subbed for the laughs - you're' funny!
Sorry, still think the Rode is the one to beat. In your traffic noise test, it had the best rejection of the lot, so I would guess it's a tighter pickup pattern, which could be useful in cities and other noisy environments. And it's the cheapest!
Rhode video micro go coupled with Rhode cinnamon buns and the Q-link for protection from the cosmic rays, and you’ve found the perfect set-up. C’mon Cinny Buns, roll me over.
Q-Link helps everything :)
Rode is King. I love Sennheiser mics, but they need to improve the directionality of that mic, sounds like a stereo mic.
I am going for the Zennheiser 🙏
Wish decision. It was my favorite too. You should send Sennheiser a camera conspiracies T shirt in return.
14:58 yes sir, that's actually a thing in sound and that can be regulated with a compressor.
Low dynamics and sustain is like shadows and highlights.
Outdoors the Rode did great. So unless you had a need to talk from behind the camera it did just fine. Besides... you could place it on a cheap mount and spin it around when you need it and turn it back when you don't. Problem solved
I also tested the d4 duo, great mic but horrible in windy condition...
Indeed. With the Rode windmuff it works better
Alleen maar leuke dingen! Oo I could try! It's too bad not all mic create equal in windy conditions 😅
Rode sounds best indoors, Sennheiser rear outside. To me but I know nothing. Personally, I use only Boya (lavs and sometimes their shotgun). Similar quality to the big brands but at a fraction of the price.
If you run this footage through a digital transcoder, you'll find that the Sennheiser's sine wave is in the Petrosian range. Coincidence?
Thanks. Maybe Diety will pay attention to all the reviews on their windmuffs & fix the problem!
BTW, you kind of remind me of Omar on OmarGosh. Similar humor.
I need a squirrel slow-mo with lavalier attached to such said squirrel right about now please
Rode Micro sounds better, this seinnheiser doesn't have bass.. sad.. design is so good, even dead cat i like it because is black and long