I really enjoyed your review, between yours and Alicia's I am convinced this mothership is not for me. I am an avid fan who used to buy motherships because they were the IT palette of the year. This is a pale shadow of this format of palette. It marks the end of an era. I guess we will need someone else to take Pat's place with a brand that offers the baked textures in interesting colors.
We need to encourage Bobbi Brown to add more of them. I’m still waiting to get her green baked shade that’s supposed to come out this fall!! Cosmos I think!
I know so many people are disappointed by this palette but I’m SOOOOO excited for it! I have every Pat McGrath palette ever made (including her holiday palettes, quads, and quints) but this is literally my PERFECT “every day” color story because I am basic AF lol. Now I won’t have to reach into multiple palettes to make the looks I wear on the daily! ❤❤❤❤
PML should release special shade singles and quads and people keep calling for this as holiday quads again. I feel like the cheaper price point would be more accessible to everyday consumers and then people won’t be so fatigued by the same colour story. CT proved it could be popular last holidays. I miss the baked shades and I’m just waiting for the brand to realise there are many more wearable or colourful options - bring on the neutrals, taupes, camel, green, light teal, peach, orange or purple; I will take anything different at this point!
I agree 10000% she should make astral shade quads. People would buy ones made from her older astral shades anyways LOL. If she made new ones people would love it, because that is a large reason why people buy the palettes now adays :)
Sofia, in September you had like 7,000 subscribers and now look at you. Just love watching someone who is growing so fast since she is so upbeat and fun. Thank you for all the great content keep it coming.
Honestly I didn’t think I wanted or needed this particular palette because I own all of the comparisons you’ve shown. Yep, I’m a junkie. But… I absolutely LOVE the looks you created, so I’m getting it! 🤭 Honestly, you are so good at choosing colors to work together on the eyes . I just love you and your content 🤗 I want to wish you the Happiest of Holidays Sophia! 💞
I think replacing the special baked shades with regular metallics is a mistake. I don't think Pat is even involved in the design of these palettes anymore. This looks like it was put together by a corporate marketing committee. Plus you can't get that many great looks from this palette. You are really great at application, so that last look is very pretty. But I don't need this. If I wanted to get a pink palette, I'd get the YSL Babylone Roses. And Spontini Lillies is on my radar too. Also, thanks for using My Dream by ND in your comparisons. I have that and was wondering. Thanks so much for a very thorough video. Happy Saturday!💚
My first MS was Divine Rose 2. I loved the tones, the quality, blendability and OH the baked glittery shades! Just fabulous. It got me hooked on Pat Mcgrath and I have so many palettes of her now. It was also the first luxury eyeshadow palette I had ever purchased. I noticed single baked shadows are very expensive, motherships used to contain 4 of those and then additional 6 'regular' shades and with the luxury packaging and quality, it justified the price for me. I loved playing with these 'artistry' palettes, with the transformative topper shade. One could combine them with other palettes, jazz up a mundane eye look. The sparkle and dimensionality in the astrals was insane, especially when the light hit. It's like you have a thousand mini-stars on your eyes. I also noticed they didn't fade or crease, even on my oily eyelids. I am thoroughly disappointed in what direction Pat went into and will not be purchasing motherships anymore. I especially dislike them not being transparant about this, as well as reducing the quality of the packaging and smaller pan sizes.
Hi dear Sofia, i cannot handle these type of shadows anymore on my eyes, but wow, how i still love a good McGrath review!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩 A very good one, with stunning looks, very good comparisons i think, wow!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩If i still could, would i purchase this? No. Because i would think than, i already have this (i had all motherships with the exception of no. 10 that's when i stopped, and gave them all away before expiry, only kept palette 7, special memories when my dear mom was still alive, and my 2nd one, as i ruined quite some shades in the first palette 7, i decided to keep my back up in the cute pink packaging. The Saint Laurent formula i can handle on my eyes. Well, even if it's a Koh Gen Do quad, Sofia, i always close my eyes when i apply on my mobile lid, check every time and than close my eyes again, also when i put shadow under my eyes, if it's Chantecaille, Suqqu, whatever, eyes first. But i will always love a good PMG video, loved the video, thanks so much, have a wonderful day!!!😘😘😘😘😘😘
I totally agree with you that she is producing what consumers are buying. I have all of the motherships and I am excited for this release as it is the most day to day wearable.
I agree too. This is firmly in the luxury camp. It will likely be my most worn Mothership. I won’t need to dip into other palettes to get the look I want. I might use a few Clionadh singles to take this into a subversive direction. I will wait for a sale still!
I agree about bringing back the quads with just astral shades (baked formula, not the new one). I would purchase several of them and pair them with other palettes. Keeping my fingers crossed that maybe one day it will happen again.
Your eyeshadow reviews are becoming pretty much the best out there on RUclips so thank you very much! I really enjoyed seeing the simple flat-lay comparison of palettes as I could pause and really take a look at the comparison. I wonder if Pat McGrath will ever do a customisable palette system with all her shadows that exist. That would probably go well as we can't move her shadows around and we might all want to make one or two 'ideal palettes' for ourselves. There is a lot of excitement and consumer 'fun' involved in customising a palette, so this might be interesting and then everyone gets what they want. Also, if Pat released a kind of Biba-style palette, a neutral 'go to' palette (an extension of Velvet Liaison), this might be a great idea, too.
Pat definitely played it safe with this one. Early on, a bunch of ppl complained that her palettes weren't "wearable" enough. Well, this one is for them. I feel like you don't buy something with glittery blitz astral shades and then expect it to be your everyday, neutral wear-to-work palette. Maybe we'll see something more unique from the holiday collection.
Perfect every day palette for me, with the PML twist. I bought it with the perspective of getting a palette of one and done shades, basically, with the possibility of doing something more. It is not as artistic as her old mothership, for sure, but it still has a place in the collection of a brand, in my opinion. For the crimson shade (which I don't like much): I saw a girl saying that if you pick it up with your finger, then rub it with another finger and use what is left on your "original" finger, you get the luminosity but the chunks go away with the rubbing so the texture on the eyes works better.
Thank you Sofia! I am a Pat McGrath fan, but I only purchase Motherships that speak to me & what I think will look good on me. So that means I have/love the 5 Motherships that most fans may not enjoy as much. I'll be getting this palette because it will work for my skin tone. As to the Patrick Ta 2 palette, the top row, while still pretty on the eye look pretty icky in the pan 16/18 months later. But I thank you for the reminder to reach for it!
This palette is an elevated pillow talk, which means it’s the first mothership I may actually reach for daily. Pat McGrath fans are asking for greens and blues, but the average consumer will never reach for those enough to justify the price.
I have never in my life worn pink shadows though; the average makeup consumer likes to collect whether they wear certain colors or not. It’s clear by the fact that this palette is basically a replica of the last two and everyone still ran to buy it. She could do purples, grays, anything else but this stupid repetitive pink concept lol I’m so annoyed. Motherships should be exclusive and special since she releases regular palettes as well.
I don’t agree - we have had an avalanche of green palettes in the last year which have been a hit and the green single by Charlotte Tilbury is what quickly sold out at a huge markup. Lisa Eldridge sorcery palette sold out fast too. It’s all about the colour combinations as most neutral lovers feel comfortable experimenting with green. Everyday consumers may wish for something unusual to justify the high price of PML - as an example my sister who only wears Tarte pinks/browns went straight to the blue PML palette as it caught her eye as a style that was special to what she has. Just my opinion 😊
I’ve only owned one other Mothership and have a pretty minimal eyeshadow collection so with the discount code this ended up being a solid addition to my collection. I don’t see myself wearing the flaky red shade but the others are pretty well suited to my everyday wear.
I just finished decluttering all my Pm, yay!! Everything was old, and i havnt bought anything from her since like 2021, and I doubt I’ll repurchase anything. When it came to shade range, complexion formulas and textures, she was a leader and set the tone, but now she’s been left behind by every brand she inspired. I wish her palettes were special, and also physically smaller for storing.
Thank you for filming in natural light so we could really get a sense of the color story….. It is so rare, and I have been disappointed in the past, purchasing after being influenced, and realizing a certain blush or a lip product is much darker than it appeared in the bright lights from my favorite influencers .. so thank you for that❤️ truly
I really appreciate how thoughtfully organized your videos are! The swatches in natural light are so amazing and made me realize I totally have all these colors already in my collection. Also love how you do Soft, Glam, Minimalist and Sultry looks!
I think I would have been okay with a mostly brown/neutral palette-not another pink one. What really bothers me, however, is that there are no more baked shades and the brand is still charging the same. 🤷🏻♀️ I honestly prefer the last two vs the latest one.
At this point, if she made an all neutral brown palette it would probably surpass the sales of her pink palettes. I think most of the people that like the pink color story are people who enjoy neutrals anyway, so it would still hit the target demographic while giving some variety. I’m going to get this new palette but I’m definitely going to wait for a sale!
I think the sales are a good indicator of a lot of her target consumers having the same feeling, that I have been having for the couple of last years, is that particularly her expensive Mothership palettes don't really offer anything unique anymore for the price tag she is asking from them. You can get similar peachy or pinky neutral colour stories from other luxury and higher-end brands at a lower price point. I think this newest palette is particularly hard sell for the 120 USD, because I don't think the shimmer shades are anything like "special" shades she use to have, they are just basic shimmers in which some of them have a slight shift to another colour. I think the consumer now looking for more of those special shades will go to an indie brand that is specializes in those shades and they might even get them for a lesser money than buying a Mothership at a full price. The more mainstream consumer looking for a high-end palette will look at her palette and compare it to and ND, Huda Beauty or even a Tarte palette and go for one of the last three, when they see that aside from the packaging, the contents of the palette don't really match up with the price being asked for it.
I think you gave it a thorough and fair review. I loved the looks you did with the palette and, as someone who just ordered it yesterday (with the eyeshadow primer, a 10 percent discount and two half priced Bridgerton pink/nude lipsticks that I loved... and a free gift of two mini lipsticks and a liner... making it come out to a more reasonable price point for me), I'm not unhappy I got it. I have all of the motherships, except one (the Naomi Campbell one), and as much as I covet them, I find that I'm just in too much of a hurry to use them as day to day palettes. They're more for going out or dressing up to me. I got this one because this looks like it will be my workhorse, I'm in a hurry and I need pinky nudes and a couple of copper and taupes to slap on in a hurry on my way out the door. I feel like this will do that for me and I'll end up wearing this more than any of my others. It's the difference between a fancy dress and a work dress -- you might get more use from the work dress, but you collect the fancy ones because they make you feel special.Tthey are a splurge, a treat. I have been wearing my Natasha Denona "My Dream Palette" to death for this reason. It's quick and easy and has the color story I need for my fair to medium skin, dark hair, blue eyes. My other Pat Palettes are cooler, not as warm for the most part. I think the makeup market has changed with the release of all the indies that are now hand pressing duochrome palettes. These are the new "night out" shades I'm wanting (but can't wear every day). Maybe Pat sees this shift and is going with it. I honestly think her matte formula and her shimmers are a much higher quality than Huda or Patrick Ta, or the others you mentioned, and I would always pick her formula over theirs. I have sensitive lids, hooded eyes, mature skin (but I love sparkle and fun, I'm immature at heart I guess, plus I'm also an artist so I love to play with color). I'm building up a collection of Indie brands for dressup and play and now, with this palette, I'll have my day outfit. Plus, if you wear makeup every day, it doesn't last forever, right? (said the queen of rationalization). Thanks for the wonderful review. I have since subscribed and looking forward to following you and hearing more of your takes in the future.
You freed me with your last Pat video. The brand has changed. I was not wanting to accept that, but it’s true. It must be working for them in a business way and for the majority of consumers. That’s great! It’s not my thing for $128, but good for all the people that prefer the palettes now. It freed me because I have all of the Motherships and 95% of everything else she’s released…until this year. Instead of feeling frustrated by that, I just feel lucky to have all the gorgeous palettes and baked shades I have and treasure them more. But the brand isn’t for me in the way that it was and that’s okay! I actually think the formulas in her 5 pans are more innovative than what’s in Sunlit Seduction. Now…I STILL love her mattes. They are versatile. I love her shimmers and metallics (they just aren’t unique to her brand like the baked shades are) I’d never buy this palette at $128, but for a steep discount, it would definitely be worth it to me! Luckily for all of us, it’s easy to wait for a 40% discount because it happens all the time on her site! Woot! I’m not sure I’ll ever get this one because I have so many of these shades from her already. But if she releases other neutral color stories than pink, I think these formulas are worth $77. But if she releases single or a quad of baked shades for holiday…I will snap those up on release day whatever she charges with an alarm set to make sure I don’t miss it!!
@@aurigavega Oh! I guess that does look like a weird number. 😂😂 It’s the price that’s 40% off list price of $128. They frequently put one or two specific Motherships on sale for $77 then they will go back to normal price. The next time it’s some other Mothership that will get the $77 price tag for a week or two.
The 4 looks are remarkably similar. This color story should have been a quad, imo. THANK YOU so much for acknowledging the lack of baked shades!! Not sure why other reviewers ignore this obvious and glaring fact.
PML now officially stand for Pink Mcgrath Labs.. skipped the last few and I’ll skip this one too. If it goes on major sale like the past palettes, maybe I’ll pick it up. You look gorgeous as always! I always love the eye looks you come up with.
The looks are pretty, but the shades aren’t unique to the PMG portfolio. It also reminds me of the new Tom Ford Tropical Dusk quad if it were extended into a bigger palette. Thanks for the review!🎉
I think you nailed it. I remember when she first launched the motherships, she was on Nikki tutorials channel demonstrating them, which I thought was strange considering that Nikki’s audience is typically younger and probably are going to lean towards affordable makeup. I think she has a hard time finding her footing with a saturated market, indie brands doing a lot of multichromes, and trying to find the customer base that will pay luxury prices but are more adventurous (this is before all the pink palettes), and now having to please her investors and make money, which is the bottom line. But yes I will pick it up during a sale lol😂
Thanks so much for the comparison to pillow talk dreams! I was hoping the vermillion and sienna shades would pull a bit browner but you have definitely saved me some money - they look almost identical to pillow talk. Great content as always!
Good morning. I am very attracted to this color story because it is what I like to use everyday; however, I already own both CT Pillow Talk quads and the large Pillow Talk palette. In addition, Huda Beauty Nude Medium looks so close that I am not sure if I will be picking this PM palette even at a reduced price. Thank you for hard work!
Thank you for all of these comparisons. As usual, when a palette gets a Sofia review, those of us lucky enough to watch end up understanding more about the palette and its nuances than the people who actually made the palette. Yours is always the consummate review, and I can’t thank you enough! ❤
My son asked me what I wanted for my 50th birthday. I suggested the Byredo Rememberance. After not wanting anything to do with it, your review convinced me I need it. Thank you for bringing it in for comparison.
Loved the last look but I have plenty of warm rosy bronze shades. I don’t care for the “special” shades in this so there’s no point. Thanks for all the comparisons as always! ❤
I agree with many of the points with the heavy pink usage in PML. But interesting to me is I do chronically hear about the $128 price tag debate for her motherships… but rarely do I hear the same argument about thing like tomford $90 quads which also tends to favor pinks but seems to get less criticism IMO
Tom Ford quads are AUD149 now, compared to PML motherships at AUD209 (at last check). The Tom Fords I have tried have been okay, but nothing special. Certainly not worth the price tag. I'd much prefer to pay AUD60 more for this mothership, though it isn't really my colour story. Heck, even Prada is way more interesting than Tom Ford.
I agree with all your final thoughts, and I’m a fan of patmcgrath. I definitely don’t have all the motherships, but I won’t really be buying any more unless the big shades come back. I’ve lost interest.
Really appreciate the comparisons with Huetopian Dream, ND My Dreams, and ND Retro-sorted, I have those 3, so I already have all of those colors in my collection in very high quality. Love your thorough reviews with swatches, application, and comparisons. You’re one of my go-tos, thank you for your service! 😂❤
I would have purchased it if the blitz shades were the same as in her original palettes - sparkly, baked formula, well adhering to the eyelids, not strong under base color and more interesting color story.
Very thorough review on this one, Sofia! 😮😊 I have so many Pat palettes that I’ve either never used or barely used. I’m really starting to notice my own waste. I get so excited to buy them bc they look so beautiful but then I never actually use them. A whole lot of times, I end up in the same situation you were with that dark chunky color and then there isn’t enough contrast, I’m frustrated and I look like I’m trying badly for a super smokey eye. It’s a disaster. If I spent more time with the Motherships I’d probably get better at it but I just feel overwhelmed. I wish I had your lid space. I love how your eyes are shaped!! ❤❤
Great review! I don't plan to pick that one ... maybe at 30% off . Beautiful palette but I have a lot of similar shades in my collection. I will use my other mothership instead lol
All companies are selling what’s safe and what has sold. Kudos to Prada for sure I love the last 4 foils and I’d call it good. Ha ha thank you another great review miss cutie
I understand why she released this colour story because this is what is selling right now. But honestly who will buy the same colour story over and over again? It's a good palette for someone who likes everyday looks or who is a casual customer. I wouldn't buy this since I do not feel it justifies the high price tag when I have so many similar palettes.
I don't think this looks that every day or work appropriate... Not for lighter skintones. Apart from the first look Sofia did none of these looks suitable for your average job 👀
I love you pointing out that there aren't any baked shades and that there isn't anything that sets the new 'special' shades apart from metallics! Both Alicia and Patty seemed to gloss over this.
Patty did not 😅 what she did say was that although the special shades weren’t baked she really didn’t mind because she preferred the glitter non-baked shades 🤷🏻♀️
@@celinag9968 I think you’re right friend 😅👌🏼 I’ll need to take a closer look at my palette (I own all the MS’s) but I believe the baked special shades were called VR shades & again the baked shades are domed & not contained in pans but rather “baked” in the palette … they were truly special due to they’re versatility in use & unique textures; you could layer them or use them alone and they gave these stunning transformative an ethereal looks to the eyes 🤩 the ones contained in this palette are just super sparkly metallic shades 😒 def not what she used to do before 🤷🏻♀️ alas now I can really appreciate the previous palettes which do contain the real special baked shades that we all love 🥰
@RoseofMadina I think you may not have watched Alicia’s video to the end. In the resume she says bout the “special shades”: “it’s kind of a drier metallic thing going on here”. She also points out that she finds the crimson shade difficult to work with.
@@Imelda47i did. But she never mentioned specifically that there are no baked shades. Which, looking at the fact how much she is a PML fan, is surprising. She has raved about the baked shades. I actually left a comment on her video to which she replied - she hadn't even noticed the lack of baked shades. She said, 'I thought they were still baked'.
It’s a pass for me and I will cherish my 10 other mothership palettes. To add to your comment about her business, this palette hurt her brand with raving fans… it only makes sense like you said if they are cutting costs and trying to grow fast. (Wait for a lot of fire sales in the next few months). What’s next is a sale to a larger group (Ester Lauder, L’Oreal…). It may end up with Pat taking her millions and distancing herself from her brand, even starting her own smaller brand. They could have made the choice of creating a “line” for mass market and keep innovative more expensive luxury leaning products for fans. It adds complexity and require more investments though… as I know you know from your own professional background… :) that’s why I’m thinking we’ll see a sale by next year. Her investors want a quick return on investment even if the brand is taking a hit. I’ll wait for the next phase, see what she’ll come up with in the next couple of years. In the mean time my money went to Prada, Suqqu, and Byredo. 😂
I think to me the confusion is in who PMG is marketing to at the moment. Will the average consumer pay PMG prices for a pretty basic color story with nothing special when they can pay a quarter of that for a run of the mill palette that will be just as good in terms of result? Or half that for a Natasha Denona palette that is more versatile and interesting? PMG built her following on being interesting and unique, and the people who have promoted her brand the most are the people asking for more creativity from her. It's also this false dichotomy - either pink and gold, or some crazy colors, but there are so many options in between. Again, Natasha Denona is a good example of this. Maybe it's easier to see because I've never been a PMG stan, but it honestly looks like she has tapped out creatively and her brand has evolved into something else. Now it looks similar to Charlotte Tilbury, who keeps pushing out the same browny pink products over and over again. Especially with how her customer service has been silencing and blocking fans online who have dared to ask for a different color story, this smells like a downfall to me.
My favorite was look number one which is very similar to the third soft luck. The difference mean in the first was warmer and tone, and the third was cooler… both very pretty. One of my favorite RUclips make up artist is Morgan Turner .. she too had a problem with the red astral shade saying that it wasn’t really an astral because in this pallet, they have a stronger base. We’re all of her all the Astros were more toppers.. all very pretty.
For the last year or two( or three)I have seen so many people asking Pat McGrath Labs to please move away from pink, and the next palette they put out is the most pink yet. That says a lot to me.
I think you did a superb job with all these looks Sophia. You showed how versatile this Mothership XI Sunlit can really be on the eyes for day to night. Also depending upon one's preference towards the rose plum to bronze. I really like look 2 and 3. Look 3 my fave cause I do enjoy a one and done single shadow with glittery or sparkle effect. Showing the comparisons within PML Motherships and lieu to other brands was also on point. The rose with the neutrals color story is what driving the $ market at this time. Like the trends of our interests for specific color stories rise to top, the brands will start to follow in pursuit. At the end of the day it is business. When it is the one palette that steals our attention whether "viral" hyped up" "on demand", the other brands will see it and create a similar. Hence I feel we start to see the replication in color stories. I personally will love to continue seeing explosion of creativity in the Motherships. It's fun! Because I see Pat McGrath as an interesting and super creative runway makeup artist, I want all that fire to transcend in these motherships and quads. I would also like to see on her channel how she envisions Sunlit and others of her creations onto the models. Like Natasha Denona does on her models. It seems like we get to learn from the actual eye of their creation and personable. She experimented with the last four shades. I particularly prefer those Blitz Astrals (baked special shades). They do add to some magical play in each Mothership. I do think she intended this Mothership XI Sunlit to interplay with Mothership V Bronze Seduction and Moonlit Seduction. What's interesting how the colors can look similar in the pan but swatched differently on the eyelids or skin comparing the other shadows from Motherships. Price point is the lacquered packaging, raised embossed and laser printed info on back. Also paying for name, special shades, and motherships are collectibles. I do see argument made in terms of pricing. Cost of goods and surplus may account for the pricing. It is still a very beautiful palette. It will be a split for those who are evaluating, preferencing or selecting in comparison to already color stories in one's collection. It's worth thinking what is suitable to our needs. IF we have ton of similar stories, either we gravitate more to it, could be overly consuming or simply collecting. It's fun to hear perspectives and see everyone's eye on the shadow. Sorry for my book comment 😂
Love your tutorial! Will probably hold off for awhile on XI as I have Divine Rose I and just ordered Divine Rose II on sale. I love your lip liner/lipstick! What are you wearing? Thank you!
I really appreciate you trying to do some everyday looks. I have one mothership, but I really only use it for evening events. This has given me so inspo to try some day looks.
I have the Patrick ta Major dimensions 2 & I love pairing it with the flower Beauty deserts lights palette! It’s my favorite combo ! & feel like I could get similar vibes to the PMG 11! 😊✨
Hi Sofia! I thoroughly enjoyed your review of the new Mothership XI, all the eye looks, swatches and comparisons! What you’re saying is basically what I’m hearing from other RUclipsrs. Even Alicia Archer was less excited about it, and she also didn’t care for the way Blitz Crimson applied. Pat has clearly changed her formula for the blitz astral shadows, and it’s not for the better. I did order this palette, but I’m questioning whether I should keep it. I don’t know how difficult it would be to try to return it. Plus I did order her new eyeshadow primer with the IntensifEYES. I’m wondering if those products might make a difference in how these apply. So far I haven’t seen any reviews yet for the new eyeshadow primer. I know she had a video showing both products being used with this palette. Other than that, I really do like the color story of this palette. To be honest, I didn’t start buying Pat’s palettes until she came out with her Divine Rose series. In fact, I’ve purchased every one of her Divine Rose mothership palettes, and my first eyeshadow purchase was for the Ritualistic Rose quad. So I guess you could say I’m a sucker for those cute pink palettes! Lol
While I love PML products, especially the Mothership palettes I’ve come to accept the brand that I once knew and loved is no more. Not that I won’t purchase from the brand but probably not the Motherships unless they are on sale. Without those special shades, it is impossible to justify the $128. It’s really just a regular palette. I appreciate the thorough review and comparisons, very helpful!
Lovely looks and great review, Sofia! You made this palette look very tempting indeed! 😍 As a huge PML fan and pink lover I am definitely going to pick this up, but not until the sales. I noticed with some embarrassment that I own almost all of the comparison palettes with the exception of the smaller 4 pan ones, which got me slightly worried. In my defence I can state that I have passed on all the recent green releases.
Yes ! And that quad is no longer available as it was LE for the holidays (now a few years ago) & it was one of the three quads will ALL special baked shades she initially released 😅 stunning !!!! The only quad she’s re-released a couple times was the colorful quad in nocturnal nirvana 😊
Thank you for the thorough review. And honestly the special shades this time around is looking awful a lot like the Flower desert lights palette! And honestly I’m way more into pats previous special shades, hope she brings them back!
What a great video Sofia! I loved all your comparisons. Most of the videos I’ve seen reviewing this palette only do comparisons against other PMG motherships. I’ve been falling out of love with Pat McGrath makeup so I’m definitely not picking it up but I still enjoy watching your videos
I recently got this one and it’s pretty but If she would make a neutral brown everyday palette I would love it more than all this pinks. If she’s wanting to keep upping the sales which I can understand a cool tone nude brown palette or a neutral everyday palette would sell incredibly. No more pink please ! 😊
Always love your reviews and swatches in natural light! Thank you!!! I was really happy to see the comparisons. Don’t think I need this. Will you be reviewing the ND starlette mini? 😊 please? 😊😊😊😊
Thank you for all the info! I love the looks you created! I am mature, fair, and look better in cooler shades. I have 3 Pat palettes, Huetpian Dream, Moonlit Seduction, and Subliminal. Which of these 3 would you recommend - Divine Rose I or II or Sunlit Seduction? I tend to look better in lavender than brown tones. Or Natasha Denona’s Retro palette. Thank you for your time! Thanks, June
Great review. I think I will enjoy using it with some of my PM more nude/tan/brown mattes. Overall, it does lean a bit too pink for me to use it on its own.
Thank you for such a thorough review! I especially appreciate you comparing this MS to the other brands. I got it with 30% discount but am now thinking of returning it.
Thank you for the wonderful and detailed review!! Your swatch comparisons are super helpful. I was wondering, are there any similarities with Charlotte Tilbury's Vintage Vamp palette?
5 years or more I was really into to Pat McGrath. I own four quads, and five motherships unfortunately. This palette looks similar to the ones I own, boring, which I will probably end up throwing away or giving to my daughter. To me her eyeshadows seem chalky, dry, and lack that high quality properties that I enjoy from other high-end brands. These days, I prefer Guerlain eye quads, even over Charlotte Tilbury and TOM FORD.
@@miac6262 Hear! Hear! There are high-end brands out there trying to improve their products, I just don’t see it in this line. When this happens, they fall behind.
I just wanna be clear that the big shade do NOT have a pan .. THEY’RE BAKED INTO THE PALLET All of the other shade, you can see the silver rim of the pans. This new mothership doesn’t have any baked shades . Pats blitz shades on my personal favorite. They are baked and they look like hockey pucks meaning the top is really flat not raised. This new pallet she’s passing off the red shade as a Blitz, but it isn’t because it’s not baked. It is pressed into the pan, we can see the aluminum rim. Shades do not have any chunks or flakes .. the one blitz in this new pallet again the red one is a flaky, as can be actually very flaky. The pallet is very pretty however if you have Divine Rose 1 and Huetopia, you don’t need this pallet. I’m also happy to say that there are no repeated Shades, which is something Pat has done throughout the Mothership line. which has been very disappointing, and quite frankly insulting.… but we buy them anyway and if it’s saving her money, she’s gonna do it because after all, she is a businesswoman.
And this is why I passed and continue to pass on PM releases. Although pretty the brand just doesn’t interest me anymore. I was never a huge fan in the first place but I did buy things during her sales. Thank you for the review and your honesty ❤❤
Wow. I loved all of those looks but the minimalist one is fantastic. I wasn't interested in this mothership but now I am afraid I will be waiting for a sale! I want it but I definitely don't need it. After watching the comparisons (thank you so much BTW), I definitely have enough similar shades in other palettes that it's hard to justify.
Are her palettes a face palette? If so, it’s a great way to expand the use and therefore the value and potential is endless. The mattes I would def use as a blush…idk I ❤️❤️it!!
Yes, her motherships are artistry palettes that means you can use the two lighter mattes as blushes and the lightest shimmer in the top left corner of the palette as a highlighter. I’ve done it and it’s stunning!
I actually have this palette on the way to me and was able to purchase it 30% off at the prelaunch. I don't know if it was a glitch or not but I'm happy that another influencer shared a code & I didn't pay full price because that crimson flaky shade looks like a waste to me as I won't use it.
This is so very wearable and approachable. It looks like it will be the easiest yet. I can imagine adding a few indie shades to flesh things out. This is a luxury palette, not an indie palette. I am going to buy this on sale, though. I’d like to see her six pans or quads with innovative formulae and shades.
@@miac6262 I think I’ll enjoy wearing it and I think it sits nicely in the warm neutral category. I don’t think it’s garbage but it doesn’t qualify as runway or even edgy. I think it is less about creativity than it is about viability and what sells. Pink/brown/gold sells. Her high colour and Freeform Celestial Nirvana palette was practically given away. Pat is being practical and business savvy.
I bought Divine Rose II because that palette spoke to me. I then purchased Divine Rose later on during one of her big sales. I even purchased Huetopian Dream during a sale. I just don’t need anymore pink. I guess if you have not purchased any of her pink palettes and you don’t like her baked formula, this might be the one for you. I prefer the baked formula because it gives me that glass ethereal look. This palette is not for me. Duplicate color story with a formula that I don’t prefer.
I really enjoyed your review, between yours and Alicia's I am convinced this mothership is not for me. I am an avid fan who used to buy motherships because they were the IT palette of the year. This is a pale shadow of this format of palette. It marks the end of an era. I guess we will need someone else to take Pat's place with a brand that offers the baked textures in interesting colors.
We need to encourage Bobbi Brown to add more of them. I’m still waiting to get her green baked shade that’s supposed to come out this fall!! Cosmos I think!
@@LisaF_ I hope it releases around these lands too...although I don't know that I can swallow €50 for one shadow...
Thank you Mariam!
I know so many people are disappointed by this palette but I’m SOOOOO excited for it! I have every Pat McGrath palette ever made (including her holiday palettes, quads, and quints) but this is literally my PERFECT “every day” color story because I am basic AF lol. Now I won’t have to reach into multiple palettes to make the looks I wear on the daily! ❤❤❤❤
I'm basic too Nicole! ;)
This is the shorter way to say what I said above. I totally agree with you.
I agree! The Divine Rose series is what got me to start buying Pat’s eyeshadow palettes in the first place!
PML should release special shade singles and quads and people keep calling for this as holiday quads again. I feel like the cheaper price point would be more accessible to everyday consumers and then people won’t be so fatigued by the same colour story. CT proved it could be popular last holidays. I miss the baked shades and I’m just waiting for the brand to realise there are many more wearable or colourful options - bring on the neutrals, taupes, camel, green, light teal, peach, orange or purple; I will take anything different at this point!
Totally. She can still make a huge margin by selling singles
Yessss
I agree 10000% she should make astral shade quads. People would buy ones made from her older astral shades anyways LOL. If she made new ones people would love it, because that is a large reason why people buy the palettes now adays :)
I LOVED being able to buy singles!
I would gladly pay more for the original baked shadows. I despise when a company downgrades the quality.
Sofia, in September you had like 7,000 subscribers and now look at you. Just love watching someone who is growing so fast since she is so upbeat and fun. Thank you for all the great content keep it coming.
I was just telling my husband that Sofia has grown so much cuz she's just pure quality.
That is so nice of you, Tammy, thank you for this comment :)
So kind of you to share that, Stacey, appreciate your support
Honestly I didn’t think I wanted or needed this particular palette because I own all of the comparisons you’ve shown. Yep, I’m a junkie. But… I absolutely LOVE the looks you created, so I’m getting it! 🤭 Honestly, you are so good at choosing colors to work together on the eyes . I just love you and your content 🤗 I want to wish you the Happiest of Holidays Sophia! 💞
Why thank you!!
I think replacing the special baked shades with regular metallics is a mistake. I don't think Pat is even involved in the design of these palettes anymore. This looks like it was put together by a corporate marketing committee. Plus you can't get that many great looks from this palette. You are really great at application, so that last look is very pretty. But I don't need this. If I wanted to get a pink palette, I'd get the YSL Babylone Roses. And Spontini Lillies is on my radar too. Also, thanks for using My Dream by ND in your comparisons. I have that and was wondering. Thanks so much for a very thorough video. Happy Saturday!💚
Yes YSL Babylone roses is a good alternative!
My first MS was Divine Rose 2. I loved the tones, the quality, blendability and OH the baked glittery shades! Just fabulous. It got me hooked on Pat Mcgrath and I have so many palettes of her now.
It was also the first luxury eyeshadow palette I had ever purchased.
I noticed single baked shadows are very expensive, motherships used to contain 4 of those and then additional 6 'regular' shades and with the luxury packaging and quality, it justified the price for me.
I loved playing with these 'artistry' palettes, with the transformative topper shade. One could combine them with other palettes, jazz up a mundane eye look.
The sparkle and dimensionality in the astrals was insane, especially when the light hit. It's like you have a thousand mini-stars on your eyes.
I also noticed they didn't fade or crease, even on my oily eyelids.
I am thoroughly disappointed in what direction Pat went into and will not be purchasing motherships anymore.
I especially dislike them not being transparant about this, as well as reducing the quality of the packaging and smaller pan sizes.
Hi dear Sofia, i cannot handle these type of shadows anymore on my eyes, but wow, how i still love a good McGrath review!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩 A very good one, with stunning looks, very good comparisons i think, wow!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩If i still could, would i purchase this? No. Because i would think than, i already have this (i had all motherships with the exception of no. 10 that's when i stopped, and gave them all away before expiry, only kept palette 7, special memories when my dear mom was still alive, and my 2nd one, as i ruined quite some shades in the first palette 7, i decided to keep my back up in the cute pink packaging. The Saint Laurent formula i can handle on my eyes. Well, even if it's a Koh Gen Do quad, Sofia, i always close my eyes when i apply on my mobile lid, check every time and than close my eyes again, also when i put shadow under my eyes, if it's Chantecaille, Suqqu, whatever, eyes first. But i will always love a good PMG video, loved the video, thanks so much, have a wonderful day!!!😘😘😘😘😘😘
I totally agree with you that she is producing what consumers are buying. I have all of the motherships and I am excited for this release as it is the most day to day wearable.
Nice! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us 💕
I agree too. This is firmly in the luxury camp. It will likely be my most worn Mothership. I won’t need to dip into other palettes to get the look I want. I might use a few Clionadh singles to take this into a subversive direction. I will wait for a sale still!
I agree about bringing back the quads with just astral shades (baked formula, not the new one). I would purchase several of them and pair them with other palettes. Keeping my fingers crossed that maybe one day it will happen again.
We can only hope!
Your eyeshadow reviews are becoming pretty much the best out there on RUclips so thank you very much! I really enjoyed seeing the simple flat-lay comparison of palettes as I could pause and really take a look at the comparison. I wonder if Pat McGrath will ever do a customisable palette system with all her shadows that exist. That would probably go well as we can't move her shadows around and we might all want to make one or two 'ideal palettes' for ourselves. There is a lot of excitement and consumer 'fun' involved in customising a palette, so this might be interesting and then everyone gets what they want. Also, if Pat released a kind of Biba-style palette, a neutral 'go to' palette (an extension of Velvet Liaison), this might be a great idea, too.
Thank you so much for that feedback! I think a Biba-esque palette would do well
Pat definitely played it safe with this one. Early on, a bunch of ppl complained that her palettes weren't "wearable" enough. Well, this one is for them. I feel like you don't buy something with glittery blitz astral shades and then expect it to be your everyday, neutral wear-to-work palette. Maybe we'll see something more unique from the holiday collection.
Perfect every day palette for me, with the PML twist. I bought it with the perspective of getting a palette of one and done shades, basically, with the possibility of doing something more. It is not as artistic as her old mothership, for sure, but it still has a place in the collection of a brand, in my opinion.
For the crimson shade (which I don't like much): I saw a girl saying that if you pick it up with your finger, then rub it with another finger and use what is left on your "original" finger, you get the luminosity but the chunks go away with the rubbing so the texture on the eyes works better.
I agree, that seems to be what is done in the video on Pat's website,. It was not applied with a brush.
Thanks for the tip!
Thank you Sofia! I am a Pat McGrath fan, but I only purchase Motherships that speak to me & what I think will look good on me. So that means I have/love the 5 Motherships that most fans may not enjoy as much. I'll be getting this palette because it will work for my skin tone. As to the Patrick Ta 2 palette, the top row, while still pretty on the eye look pretty icky in the pan 16/18 months later. But I thank you for the reminder to reach for it!
This palette is an elevated pillow talk, which means it’s the first mothership I may actually reach for daily. Pat McGrath fans are asking for greens and blues, but the average consumer will never reach for those enough to justify the price.
Yes you are right 🙂
Good way to describe it
I have never in my life worn pink shadows though; the average makeup consumer likes to collect whether they wear certain colors or not. It’s clear by the fact that this palette is basically a replica of the last two and everyone still ran to buy it. She could do purples, grays, anything else but this stupid repetitive pink concept lol I’m so annoyed. Motherships should be exclusive and special since she releases regular palettes as well.
I agree! Subiminal is a beautiful palette to swatch and look at, but how often can you wear that amazing blue.
I don’t agree - we have had an avalanche of green palettes in the last year which have been a hit and the green single by Charlotte Tilbury is what quickly sold out at a huge markup. Lisa Eldridge sorcery palette sold out fast too. It’s all about the colour combinations as most neutral lovers feel comfortable experimenting with green. Everyday consumers may wish for something unusual to justify the high price of PML - as an example my sister who only wears Tarte pinks/browns went straight to the blue PML palette as it caught her eye as a style that was special to what she has. Just my opinion 😊
I’ve only owned one other Mothership and have a pretty minimal eyeshadow collection so with the discount code this ended up being a solid addition to my collection. I don’t see myself wearing the flaky red shade but the others are pretty well suited to my everyday wear.
I just finished decluttering all my Pm, yay!! Everything was old, and i havnt bought anything from her since like 2021, and I doubt I’ll repurchase anything. When it came to shade range, complexion formulas and textures, she was a leader and set the tone, but now she’s been left behind by every brand she inspired.
I wish her palettes were special, and also physically smaller for storing.
Thank you for filming in natural light so we could really get a sense of the color story…..
It is so rare, and I have been disappointed in the past, purchasing after being influenced, and realizing a certain blush or a lip product is much darker than it appeared in the bright lights from my favorite influencers .. so thank you for that❤️ truly
I really appreciate how thoughtfully organized your videos are! The swatches in natural light are so amazing and made me realize I totally have all these colors already in my collection. Also love how you do Soft, Glam, Minimalist and Sultry looks!
Thank you so much for that feedback!
I think I would have been okay with a mostly brown/neutral palette-not another pink one. What really bothers me, however, is that there are no more baked shades and the brand is still charging the same. 🤷🏻♀️ I honestly prefer the last two vs the latest one.
At this point, if she made an all neutral brown palette it would probably surpass the sales of her pink palettes. I think most of the people that like the pink color story are people who enjoy neutrals anyway, so it would still hit the target demographic while giving some variety. I’m going to get this new palette but I’m definitely going to wait for a sale!
This video showed me that what I actually want is divine rose 2 and huetopian dreams!
Haha niceeee!
I think the sales are a good indicator of a lot of her target consumers having the same feeling, that I have been having for the couple of last years, is that particularly her expensive Mothership palettes don't really offer anything unique anymore for the price tag she is asking from them. You can get similar peachy or pinky neutral colour stories from other luxury and higher-end brands at a lower price point. I think this newest palette is particularly hard sell for the 120 USD, because I don't think the shimmer shades are anything like "special" shades she use to have, they are just basic shimmers in which some of them have a slight shift to another colour. I think the consumer now looking for more of those special shades will go to an indie brand that is specializes in those shades and they might even get them for a lesser money than buying a Mothership at a full price. The more mainstream consumer looking for a high-end palette will look at her palette and compare it to and ND, Huda Beauty or even a Tarte palette and go for one of the last three, when they see that aside from the packaging, the contents of the palette don't really match up with the price being asked for it.
I completely agree with you 💯
I think you gave it a thorough and fair review. I loved the looks you did with the palette and, as someone who just ordered it yesterday (with the eyeshadow primer, a 10 percent discount and two half priced Bridgerton pink/nude lipsticks that I loved... and a free gift of two mini lipsticks and a liner... making it come out to a more reasonable price point for me), I'm not unhappy I got it. I have all of the motherships, except one (the Naomi Campbell one), and as much as I covet them, I find that I'm just in too much of a hurry to use them as day to day palettes. They're more for going out or dressing up to me. I got this one because this looks like it will be my workhorse, I'm in a hurry and I need pinky nudes and a couple of copper and taupes to slap on in a hurry on my way out the door. I feel like this will do that for me and I'll end up wearing this more than any of my others. It's the difference between a fancy dress and a work dress -- you might get more use from the work dress, but you collect the fancy ones because they make you feel special.Tthey are a splurge, a treat. I have been wearing my Natasha Denona "My Dream Palette" to death for this reason. It's quick and easy and has the color story I need for my fair to medium skin, dark hair, blue eyes. My other Pat Palettes are cooler, not as warm for the most part. I think the makeup market has changed with the release of all the indies that are now hand pressing duochrome palettes. These are the new "night out" shades I'm wanting (but can't wear every day). Maybe Pat sees this shift and is going with it. I honestly think her matte formula and her shimmers are a much higher quality than Huda or Patrick Ta, or the others you mentioned, and I would always pick her formula over theirs. I have sensitive lids, hooded eyes, mature skin (but I love sparkle and fun, I'm immature at heart I guess, plus I'm also an artist so I love to play with color). I'm building up a collection of Indie brands for dressup and play and now, with this palette, I'll have my day outfit. Plus, if you wear makeup every day, it doesn't last forever, right? (said the queen of rationalization). Thanks for the wonderful review. I have since subscribed and looking forward to following you and hearing more of your takes in the future.
You freed me with your last Pat video. The brand has changed. I was not wanting to accept that, but it’s true. It must be working for them in a business way and for the majority of consumers. That’s great! It’s not my thing for $128, but good for all the people that prefer the palettes now.
It freed me because I have all of the Motherships and 95% of everything else she’s released…until this year. Instead of feeling frustrated by that, I just feel lucky to have all the gorgeous palettes and baked shades I have and treasure them more. But the brand isn’t for me in the way that it was and that’s okay! I actually think the formulas in her 5 pans are more innovative than what’s in Sunlit Seduction.
Now…I STILL love her mattes. They are versatile. I love her shimmers and metallics (they just aren’t unique to her brand like the baked shades are)
I’d never buy this palette at $128, but for a steep discount, it would definitely be worth it to me! Luckily for all of us, it’s easy to wait for a 40% discount because it happens all the time on her site! Woot!
I’m not sure I’ll ever get this one because I have so many of these shades from her already. But if she releases other neutral color stories than pink, I think these formulas are worth $77.
But if she releases single or a quad of baked shades for holiday…I will snap those up on release day whatever she charges with an alarm set to make sure I don’t miss it!!
Why $77? Just curious how you value it
@@aurigavega Oh! I guess that does look like a weird number. 😂😂 It’s the price that’s 40% off list price of $128. They frequently put one or two specific Motherships on sale for $77 then they will go back to normal price. The next time it’s some other Mothership that will get the $77 price tag for a week or two.
The 4 looks are remarkably similar. This color story should have been a quad, imo. THANK YOU so much for acknowledging the lack of baked shades!! Not sure why other reviewers ignore this obvious and glaring fact.
PML now officially stand for Pink Mcgrath Labs.. skipped the last few and I’ll skip this one too. If it goes on major sale like the past palettes, maybe I’ll pick it up. You look gorgeous as always! I always love the eye looks you come up with.
I also heared Pat McTilbury 😂
Haha Vi that made me LOL!
The looks are pretty, but the shades aren’t unique to the PMG portfolio. It also reminds me of the new Tom Ford Tropical Dusk quad if it were extended into a bigger palette. Thanks for the review!🎉
I think you nailed it. I remember when she first launched the motherships, she was on Nikki tutorials channel demonstrating them, which I thought was strange considering that Nikki’s audience is typically younger and probably are going to lean towards affordable makeup. I think she has a hard time finding her footing with a saturated market, indie brands doing a lot of multichromes, and trying to find the customer base that will pay luxury prices but are more adventurous (this is before all the pink palettes), and now having to please her investors and make money, which is the bottom line. But yes I will pick it up during a sale lol😂
Did you know it was selling at 25 AND 30% off last week?? There was a glitch where lots of us got it!
I think that may not have been a glitch but a very deliberate marketing ploy to kick start sales.
Thanks so much for the comparison to pillow talk dreams! I was hoping the vermillion and sienna shades would pull a bit browner but you have definitely saved me some money - they look almost identical to pillow talk. Great content as always!
You are so welcome!
Good morning. I am very attracted to this color story because it is what I like to use everyday; however, I already own both CT Pillow Talk quads and the large Pillow Talk palette. In addition, Huda Beauty Nude Medium looks so close that I am not sure if I will be picking this PM palette even at a reduced price. Thank you for hard work!
Thank you for all of these comparisons. As usual, when a palette gets a Sofia review, those of us lucky enough to watch end up understanding more about the palette and its nuances than the people who actually made the palette. Yours is always the consummate review, and I can’t thank you enough! ❤
Thank you Lisa!
My son asked me what I wanted for my 50th birthday. I suggested the Byredo Rememberance. After not wanting anything to do with it, your review convinced me I need it. Thank you for bringing it in for comparison.
It's so good! I keep going back to it even though I did critique it
That was such a good overview of the PM palette! Thank you so much, it’s really helped me make you decision.
I'm so glad!
Loved the last look but I have plenty of warm rosy bronze shades. I don’t care for the “special” shades in this so there’s no point. Thanks for all the comparisons as always! ❤
I agree with many of the points with the heavy pink usage in PML. But interesting to me is I do chronically hear about the $128 price tag debate for her motherships… but rarely do I hear the same argument about thing like tomford $90 quads which also tends to favor pinks but seems to get less criticism IMO
Tom Ford quads are AUD149 now, compared to PML motherships at AUD209 (at last check). The Tom Fords I have tried have been okay, but nothing special. Certainly not worth the price tag. I'd much prefer to pay AUD60 more for this mothership, though it isn't really my colour story. Heck, even Prada is way more interesting than Tom Ford.
Couldn’t agree more. First time I saw a PML mothership I was in awe
Couldn’t agree more ! And theirs are even more expensive quads out there 😅 like $110 for a quad 😩😭😱
I agree with all your final thoughts, and I’m a fan of patmcgrath. I definitely don’t have all the motherships, but I won’t really be buying any more unless the big shades come back. I’ve lost interest.
Really appreciate the comparisons with Huetopian Dream, ND My Dreams, and ND Retro-sorted, I have those 3, so I already have all of those colors in my collection in very high quality. Love your thorough reviews with swatches, application, and comparisons. You’re one of my go-tos, thank you for your service! 😂❤
Glad I could help!
I would have purchased it if the blitz shades were the same as in her original palettes - sparkly, baked formula, well adhering to the eyelids, not strong under base color and more interesting color story.
Very thorough review on this one, Sofia! 😮😊 I have so many Pat palettes that I’ve either never used or barely used. I’m really starting to notice my own waste. I get so excited to buy them bc they look so beautiful but then I never actually use them. A whole lot of times, I end up in the same situation you were with that dark chunky color and then there isn’t enough contrast, I’m frustrated and I look like I’m trying badly for a super smokey eye. It’s a disaster. If I spent more time with the Motherships I’d probably get better at it but I just feel overwhelmed. I wish I had your lid space. I love how your eyes are shaped!! ❤❤
Why thank you 😊
Great review! I don't plan to pick that one ... maybe at 30% off . Beautiful palette but I have a lot of similar shades in my collection. I will use my other mothership instead lol
All companies are selling what’s safe and what has sold. Kudos to Prada for sure I love the last 4 foils and I’d call it good. Ha ha thank you another great review miss cutie
I understand why she released this colour story because this is what is selling right now. But honestly who will buy the same colour story over and over again? It's a good palette for someone who likes everyday looks or who is a casual customer. I wouldn't buy this since I do not feel it justifies the high price tag when I have so many similar palettes.
I don't think this looks that every day or work appropriate... Not for lighter skintones. Apart from the first look Sofia did none of these looks suitable for your average job 👀
I love you pointing out that there aren't any baked shades and that there isn't anything that sets the new 'special' shades apart from metallics!
Both Alicia and Patty seemed to gloss over this.
Patty did not 😅 what she did say was that although the special shades weren’t baked she really didn’t mind because she preferred the glitter non-baked shades 🤷🏻♀️
I also think that since Pat still labeled them as astrals led to some confusion…
@@celinag9968 I think you’re right friend 😅👌🏼 I’ll need to take a closer look at my palette (I own all the MS’s) but I believe the baked special shades were called VR shades & again the baked shades are domed & not contained in pans but rather “baked” in the palette … they were truly special due to they’re versatility in use & unique textures; you could layer them or use them alone and they gave these stunning transformative an ethereal looks to the eyes 🤩 the ones contained in this palette are just super sparkly metallic shades 😒 def not what she used to do before 🤷🏻♀️ alas now I can really appreciate the previous palettes which do contain the real special baked shades that we all love 🥰
@RoseofMadina
I think you may not have watched Alicia’s video to the end. In the resume she says bout the “special shades”: “it’s kind of a drier metallic thing going on here”. She also points out that she finds the crimson shade difficult to work with.
@@Imelda47i did. But she never mentioned specifically that there are no baked shades. Which, looking at the fact how much she is a PML fan, is surprising. She has raved about the baked shades. I actually left a comment on her video to which she replied - she hadn't even noticed the lack of baked shades. She said, 'I thought they were still baked'.
I have it and love it. Perfect color story for me personally. But, I understand people not loving the pink story.
It’s a pass for me and I will cherish my 10 other mothership palettes. To add to your comment about her business, this palette hurt her brand with raving fans… it only makes sense like you said if they are cutting costs and trying to grow fast. (Wait for a lot of fire sales in the next few months). What’s next is a sale to a larger group (Ester Lauder, L’Oreal…). It may end up with Pat taking her millions and distancing herself from her brand, even starting her own smaller brand. They could have made the choice of creating a “line” for mass market and keep innovative more expensive luxury leaning products for fans. It adds complexity and require more investments though… as I know you know from your own professional background… :) that’s why I’m thinking we’ll see a sale by next year. Her investors want a quick return on investment even if the brand is taking a hit. I’ll wait for the next phase, see what she’ll come up with in the next couple of years. In the mean time my money went to Prada, Suqqu, and Byredo. 😂
I think to me the confusion is in who PMG is marketing to at the moment. Will the average consumer pay PMG prices for a pretty basic color story with nothing special when they can pay a quarter of that for a run of the mill palette that will be just as good in terms of result? Or half that for a Natasha Denona palette that is more versatile and interesting? PMG built her following on being interesting and unique, and the people who have promoted her brand the most are the people asking for more creativity from her. It's also this false dichotomy - either pink and gold, or some crazy colors, but there are so many options in between. Again, Natasha Denona is a good example of this. Maybe it's easier to see because I've never been a PMG stan, but it honestly looks like she has tapped out creatively and her brand has evolved into something else. Now it looks similar to Charlotte Tilbury, who keeps pushing out the same browny pink products over and over again. Especially with how her customer service has been silencing and blocking fans online who have dared to ask for a different color story, this smells like a downfall to me.
My favorite was look number one which is very similar to the third soft luck. The difference mean in the first was warmer and tone, and the third was cooler… both very pretty.
One of my favorite RUclips make up artist is Morgan Turner .. she too had a problem with the red astral shade saying that it wasn’t really an astral because in this pallet, they have a stronger base. We’re all of her all the Astros were more toppers.. all very pretty.
For the last year or two( or three)I have seen so many people asking Pat McGrath Labs to please move away from pink, and the next palette they put out is the most pink yet. That says a lot to me.
Thank you for honest review and lot’s of comparisons! This mothership remind me the tropical dusk palette from TF 🤔
I think it's gorgeous and may be my first mothership. It's one where I would actually use at least 8 of the 10 shades daily.
Love your final honest thoughts ❤
:)
I think you did a superb job with all these looks Sophia. You showed how versatile this Mothership XI Sunlit can really be on the eyes for day to night. Also depending upon one's preference towards the rose plum to bronze. I really like look 2 and 3. Look 3 my fave cause I do enjoy a one and done single shadow with glittery or sparkle effect. Showing the comparisons within PML Motherships and lieu to other brands was also on point. The rose with the neutrals color story is what driving the $ market at this time. Like the trends of our interests for specific color stories rise to top, the brands will start to follow in pursuit. At the end of the day it is business. When it is the one palette that steals our attention whether "viral" hyped up" "on demand", the other brands will see it and create a similar. Hence I feel we start to see the replication in color stories. I personally will love to continue seeing explosion of creativity in the Motherships. It's fun! Because I see Pat McGrath as an interesting and super creative runway makeup artist, I want all that fire to transcend in these motherships and quads. I would also like to see on her channel how she envisions Sunlit and others of her creations onto the models. Like Natasha Denona does on her models. It seems like we get to learn from the actual eye of their creation and personable.
She experimented with the last four shades. I particularly prefer those Blitz Astrals (baked special shades). They do add to some magical play in each Mothership. I do think she intended this Mothership XI Sunlit to interplay with Mothership V Bronze Seduction and Moonlit Seduction. What's interesting how the colors can look similar in the pan but swatched differently on the eyelids or skin comparing the other shadows from Motherships. Price point is the lacquered packaging, raised embossed and laser printed info on back. Also paying for name, special shades, and motherships are collectibles. I do see argument made in terms of pricing. Cost of goods and surplus may account for the pricing.
It is still a very beautiful palette. It will be a split for those who are evaluating, preferencing or selecting in comparison to already color stories in one's collection. It's worth thinking what is suitable to our needs. IF we have ton of similar stories, either we gravitate more to it, could be overly consuming or simply collecting. It's fun to hear perspectives and see everyone's eye on the shadow.
Sorry for my book comment 😂
Thank you for sharing such a thoughtful comment with us! 🙌
It is such a pleasure. When we share and give, we learn from one another. 🙂@@SofiaSeesBeauty
Love your tutorial! Will probably hold off for awhile on XI as I have Divine Rose I and just ordered Divine Rose II on sale. I love your lip liner/lipstick! What are you wearing? Thank you!
I have all those colors in Tarte palettes, and they smell like vanilla, a favorite for me.
I really appreciate you trying to do some everyday looks. I have one mothership, but I really only use it for evening events. This has given me so inspo to try some day looks.
I'm so glad!
I have the Patrick ta Major dimensions 2 & I love pairing it with the flower Beauty deserts lights palette! It’s my favorite combo ! & feel like I could get similar vibes to the PMG 11! 😊✨
Hi Sofia! I thoroughly enjoyed your review of the new Mothership XI, all the eye looks, swatches and comparisons! What you’re saying is basically what I’m hearing from other RUclipsrs. Even Alicia Archer was less excited about it, and she also didn’t care for the way Blitz Crimson applied. Pat has clearly changed her formula for the blitz astral shadows, and it’s not for the better. I did order this palette, but I’m questioning whether I should keep it. I don’t know how difficult it would be to try to return it. Plus I did order her new eyeshadow primer with the IntensifEYES. I’m wondering if those products might make a difference in how these apply. So far I haven’t seen any reviews yet for the new eyeshadow primer. I know she had a video showing both products being used with this palette. Other than that, I really do like the color story of this palette. To be honest, I didn’t start buying Pat’s palettes until she came out with her Divine Rose series. In fact, I’ve purchased every one of her Divine Rose mothership palettes, and my first eyeshadow purchase was for the Ritualistic Rose quad. So I guess you could say I’m a sucker for those cute pink palettes! Lol
While I love PML products, especially the Mothership palettes I’ve come to accept the brand that I once knew and loved is no more. Not that I won’t purchase from the brand but probably not the Motherships unless they are on sale. Without those special shades, it is impossible to justify the $128. It’s really just a regular palette.
I appreciate the thorough review and comparisons, very helpful!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us Tracie!
Lovely looks and great review, Sofia!
You made this palette look very tempting indeed! 😍
As a huge PML fan and pink lover I am definitely going to pick this up, but not until the sales. I noticed with some embarrassment that I own almost all of the comparison palettes with the exception of the smaller 4 pan ones, which got me slightly worried. In my defence I can state that I have passed on all the recent green releases.
What quad has those baked formulas from PML? Ritualistic Rose?
Yes ! And that quad is no longer available as it was LE for the holidays (now a few years ago) & it was one of the three quads will ALL special baked shades she initially released 😅 stunning !!!! The only quad she’s re-released a couple times was the colorful quad in nocturnal nirvana 😊
@@J_loves_lu Thank you so much! 💗
@@momcat589 glad I could help friend ! 🥰❤️😘
Sorry there I got caught up and didn't say the name!
@@SofiaSeesBeauty No worries. Thank you. 💗
Thank you for the thorough review. And honestly the special shades this time around is looking awful a lot like the Flower desert lights palette! And honestly I’m way more into pats previous special shades, hope she brings them back!
What a great video Sofia! I loved all your comparisons. Most of the videos I’ve seen reviewing this palette only do comparisons against other PMG motherships. I’ve been falling out of love with Pat McGrath makeup so I’m definitely not picking it up but I still enjoy watching your videos
Glad it was helpful!
I recently got this one and it’s pretty but If she would make a neutral brown everyday palette I would love it more than all this pinks. If she’s wanting to keep upping the sales which I can understand a cool tone nude brown palette or a neutral everyday palette would sell incredibly. No more pink please ! 😊
These colors look super flattering on your skin tone. i'll definitely pick this up in the next sale :)
Thank you!
Always love your reviews and swatches in natural light! Thank you!!! I was really happy to see the comparisons. Don’t think I need this.
Will you be reviewing the ND starlette mini? 😊 please? 😊😊😊😊
You’re welcome! I’m not picking up any more ND mini palettes 😅 they just collect dust in my drawer
@@SofiaSeesBeauty OMG I rarely use mine too! I don't "collect" them but I seem to always want them. haha (I bought it anyway lol)
Thank you for all the info! I love the looks you created! I am mature, fair, and look better in cooler shades. I have 3 Pat palettes, Huetpian Dream, Moonlit Seduction, and Subliminal. Which of these 3 would you recommend - Divine Rose I or II or Sunlit Seduction? I tend to look better in lavender than brown tones. Or Natasha Denona’s Retro palette. Thank you for your time! Thanks, June
Thanks for this video! The swatch comparisons were super helpful. I have this palette multiple times over in my collection already.
Glad it was helpful!
These shades look great on you. It does remind me of Patrick Ta and Tilbury Dreams. I wouldn't pay retail for this but would consider $78.
Thank you for sharing Mark!
Great review. I think I will enjoy using it with some of my PM more nude/tan/brown mattes. Overall, it does lean a bit too pink for me to use it on its own.
Thank you for such a thorough review! I especially appreciate you comparing this MS to the other brands. I got it with 30% discount but am now thinking of returning it.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the wonderful and detailed review!! Your swatch comparisons are super helpful. I was wondering, are there any similarities with Charlotte Tilbury's Vintage Vamp palette?
I actually like it, it looked really pretty on your looks!
Thanks for the in depth review Sophia! It helped remind me that I really do have these colors in my collection already. I’m gonna pass for now. ❤
You are so welcome!
Thank you Sofia, very beautiful your makeup and cat 🐈⬛, I like 😊🤗👍👍👍
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Great review Sofia....this one is an easy pass for me!
5 years or more I was really into to Pat McGrath. I own four quads, and five motherships unfortunately. This palette looks similar to the ones I own, boring, which I will probably end up throwing away or giving to my daughter. To me her eyeshadows seem chalky, dry, and lack that high quality properties that I enjoy from other high-end brands. These days, I prefer Guerlain eye quads, even over Charlotte Tilbury and TOM FORD.
Same. This brand will be all at TJmax in another year
@@miac6262 Hear! Hear! There are high-end brands out there trying to improve their products, I just don’t see it in this line. When this happens, they fall behind.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
I just wanna be clear that the big shade do NOT have a pan .. THEY’RE BAKED INTO THE PALLET
All of the other shade, you can see the silver rim of the pans.
This new mothership doesn’t have any baked shades .
Pats blitz shades on my personal favorite. They are baked and they look like hockey pucks meaning the top is really flat not raised.
This new pallet she’s passing off the red shade as a Blitz, but it isn’t because it’s not baked. It is pressed into the pan, we can see the aluminum rim.
Shades do not have any chunks or flakes .. the one blitz in this new pallet again the red one is a flaky, as can be actually very flaky.
The pallet is very pretty however if you have Divine Rose 1 and Huetopia, you don’t need this pallet.
I’m also happy to say that there are no repeated Shades, which is something Pat has done throughout the Mothership line. which has been very disappointing, and quite frankly insulting.… but we buy them anyway and if it’s saving her money, she’s gonna do it because after all, she is a businesswoman.
Love look 3 and 4. So nice. ❤
Excelente review el mejor que he visto ! 👏🏼👏🏼
Gracias!!
And this is why I passed and continue to pass on PM releases. Although pretty the brand just doesn’t interest me anymore. I was never a huge fan in the first place but I did buy things during her sales. Thank you for the review and your honesty ❤❤
Thanks for sharing!
Pass for me, but I appreciate the review in helping me choose!
Glad I could help!
Wow. I loved all of those looks but the minimalist one is fantastic. I wasn't interested in this mothership but now I am afraid I will be waiting for a sale! I want it but I definitely don't need it. After watching the comparisons (thank you so much BTW), I definitely have enough similar shades in other palettes that it's hard to justify.
I am glad I could help!
Hey Sofia! What if I ordered the PM sunlit palette but still want the Byredo Remembrance palette? Should I go for it to have both in my collection
The Byredo palette is limited edition so if you are really eyeing it then you should get it now as it wont stick around for long
Love the video and love the pallet! I am awaiting for my pallet to arrive.
The colour story is very very pretty but the special shades are so underwhelming D:. They dont have the usual PMG spark T_T
You have done such a great job with this video 👏🏆 thank you so much 💗
You are so welcome!
Are her palettes a face palette? If so, it’s a great way to expand the use and therefore the value and potential is endless. The mattes I would def use as a blush…idk I ❤️❤️it!!
Yes, her motherships are artistry palettes that means you can use the two lighter mattes as blushes and the lightest shimmer in the top left corner of the palette as a highlighter. I’ve done it and it’s stunning!
I’m really buying more indie brands, they don’t disappoint and you get more for your money!!
Just going to hit like first 😊 and save actual video for when I have time to pay full attention tomorrow ❤
Love the looks and the comparisons!
I actually have this palette on the way to me and was able to purchase it 30% off at the prelaunch. I don't know if it was a glitch or not but I'm happy that another influencer shared a code & I didn't pay full price because that crimson flaky shade looks like a waste to me as I won't use it.
All looks are so beautiful 😍
My pleasure!
Thank you for the amazing comparisons ❤
My pleasure!
This is so very wearable and approachable. It looks like it will be the easiest yet. I can imagine adding a few indie shades to flesh things out. This is a luxury palette, not an indie palette. I am going to buy this on sale, though. I’d like to see her six pans or quads with innovative formulae and shades.
Wearable for who? Bright pinks for the office ? I don’t think so 🤣 this palette is trash, she lost her spark and has produced garbage last few years
@@miac6262 I think I’ll enjoy wearing it and I think it sits nicely in the warm neutral category. I don’t think it’s garbage but it doesn’t qualify as runway or even edgy. I think it is less about creativity than it is about viability and what sells. Pink/brown/gold sells. Her high colour and Freeform Celestial Nirvana palette was practically given away. Pat is being practical and business savvy.
I got it for $97.97 out the door. It is very pretty and pink. Have a great weekend ❌️ ⭕️
Can't wait for this! Love pink
Fantastic review, thank you 😍
I bought Divine Rose II because that palette spoke to me. I then purchased Divine Rose later on during one of her big sales. I even purchased Huetopian Dream during a sale. I just don’t need anymore pink. I guess if you have not purchased any of her pink palettes and you don’t like her baked formula, this might be the one for you. I prefer the baked formula because it gives me that glass ethereal look. This palette is not for me. Duplicate color story with a formula that I don’t prefer.