you do a fusion, which is a big time and energy sink, to get a hero thats only usefull when you need to spend for the partner, I don't feel ok about that. They looked good in arena though.
Thats the problem. If Hansel would be a free logo or maybe guaranteed through other events in which the average player can get the hands on Hansel ok. But sure they only bring Hansel on the top of a Tournament or something like that. So for me as a low spender its an easy skip.
Thank you for the vid! They do seem okay when partnered, but since we still don't know what's required for Hansel, and if there will be a soul event, I'll probably skip. Love your quote there towards the end "if you do the entire fusion, and get the guaranteed and get their 6 star souls..." - that's not happening for me, so I'll save my resources.
I will hold off to see what it takes to get Hansel since these fusions tend to arrive for me in shard pulls, plus I’m worn out from so many fusions, hope the Xmas one is good
To have an impact over my account I would need to have both of them with 5star soul. I don't have enough shard for all of that. I'll keep saving for the next fusion.
My biggest mistake was going for timit and Kyja, drained my resources, then I didn't have enough to go for White King and Queen. Worst choice I ever made.
Great. Now plarium is going to do a stealth 50x on Hansel (without telling anyone, of course) so that people will get him and wish they had done the fusion.
Ive done so many fusions this year for the hell of it that I might not even ever invest into. Im feeling I really shouldnt go for this one but its so tough ive sort of timed my account now to do certain actions like leveling and booking, leveling gear etc during a fusion so really holds me up when I dont do them.(only one i skipped in last 6 months was the incarnate and then I pulled her from an ancient going for thor)
Was hoping the fusion was gonna be worth doing just so I had a fusion to keep me busy in the game. Think I’m gonna go back into AFK farm mode until Christmas. Sigh.
Should be interesting to see how they pair with other couples. For example, are they better or worse than Cupidus+Venus? I won't even ask about Taras+Marichka, Narses+Ankora or Siphi+Rotos but the other Sacred Order couple is just good enough to be a fair comparison
Did Nubs let slip they’re gonna have a guarantee for Hansel? Also I wonder if these two will have key mechanics for the new event dungeon and the new Mythical will be the boss, if so they would counter a lot of the mythical’s skill from the shield buffs, true fear, switching forms and extra turns from killing enemies and Hansel skill increase skill cooldowns would help buy time for weaker team to revive champs . It seems to fit the timing of everything.
I don´t like fusions where you have to get an additional champion to get the most out of the fusion champ. And even when they are paired together you have to have the quality of gear that the CCs have and I would bet most of the normal players don´t have..... Normally I do all the fusions but this time I am really tempted to not doing it.... also I feel a bit dissappointed.....
Plarium needs to be more transparent about what we need to do to get Hansel. Until then this is a skip for me. I have better damage dealers... like Elhain! Lol
Yah I’m done sinking time and energy into a champ that has a possibility of MAYBE being good in conditional situations…. Like I just got Thor and ain’t got time for that😂
Im really torn they seem like a prime target for buffs and I always seem to pull 1/2 of partner champs so having 1 guaranteed would be nice. I really wish it was a fragment fusion if it was I would for sure be doing it. but a full classic has me leaning towards skip. For me it will all be on how bad/good the calendar is.
So while I do agree that the pairing isn’t as strong as we’d hoped for hydra, I don’t think ninja and Varl are a fair comparison. Both of them scale their attack with time so they innately will deal more damage. Varl doesn’t have a 5 star blessing but didn’t do much more damage. I’d imagine he’d do better with the same 5* though. Ninja is a compounding effect of bonuses. Half of Mikage’s turns bring in ninja a1s which is a lot more damage, combined with the escalation passive, and combined with his turn meter fill which gives him more turns on average. All that said, I’m not saying we should all get the new duo for hydra, but most champions will perform worse than any champions with damage scaling.
Doing one in SS and one without is definitely something in Arena where AI will do suboptimal move and kill one of them off, though in LA/Siege it's hard to see it work to full effect like it did here sometimes since they wouldn't kill Gretel eg. Taras at min 20 in the video; Gretel should never be the one targeted here, pretty meh fusion honestly maybe speed farming some classic arena imo but that's about it, I can't bring myself to going for it when the cost of entry is over 20 Sacreds if you want both of them.
They would work in Gold 5 classic arena but then 99% of teams work in Gold 5, she's not worth the effort even when paired with her brother. Do you want to do a full fusion for 50% of a viable champion? If the answer is yes you need to question what your goals are. Jeroboam was infinitely more useful and most players skipped him.
Alika is a bloody epic, this one is a legendary. LOL, Thor was similar classic fusion champ, and he outperforms either of the twins, without needing any second champ as a pair. If this would be a frag fusion, I might be tempted to go for it, but doing a classic one for a subpar lego, which you might use from blue shards on a 1+1 event? LOL, thanks but no thanks!
I'm not a fan because they're only strong as a duo and with my account it's just not worth my resources!!! Maybe the next fusion. Plus they just seem to much like an epic to me. Basher has a 2 turn lockout by him self and you need both for gretal to get after 2 turn no thank you!
Plarium often gives them information in advance and tells them when they can release videos. That's why you often see a bunch of CCs release videos at the exact same time.
I think you hit the nail on the head at the end. You NEED them both. They HAVE to be in great gear. And they MUST have a high level soul to be effective in arena. And thats only normal arena not live, im sure one will get banned in live and you're fucked. I think its a skip for me.
All these people saying skip. Presume you said the same for the last 20 odd fusions. Why not just do it? Fusions aren't difficult to complete, just requires a bit of time and effort. It's just laziness, the champions aren't bad at all
just need 20 sacreds or you end up with an useless champion because they're hardly worth it if you don't have both of them. forgot about that part? do you think Hansel's cost of entry won't be like any other guaranteed? lol also you said they aren't bad; so doing Gretel and having her in your vault for 2 years waiting to pull Hansel is out of question
Because you need her partner to be useful and no one gonna spend 20 sacreds for a ok dmg dealer and literally everyone has wukong and thor who hit harder than these pair I'm sorry but not worth it imo
You do both? I am a low spender and can still save enough shards to be able to comfortably do this fusion, hanzel and be able to do the next one providing I'm on point with resource management and time. You never know when you may regret not doing a fusion. Look at emic, armanz, razelvarg etc
you do a fusion, which is a big time and energy sink, to get a hero thats only usefull when you need to spend for the partner, I don't feel ok about that. They looked good in arena though.
Thats the problem. If Hansel would be a free logo or maybe guaranteed through other events in which the average player can get the hands on Hansel ok. But sure they only bring Hansel on the top of a Tournament or something like that. So for me as a low spender its an easy skip.
thor probably does more dmg than both combined in hydra
oi oi, we dont speak truths here.
Not gonna do the fusion this time. Need more supports over dmg dealers
Same
Likewise!
Same. I needed Brewguard but didn’t have enough resources after getting Thor.
I believe they could’ve gave these kit changes to abbess and reworked Gretel to a defensive/support type instead
0:35 😂😂😂 epic fusion announcement
Thank you for the vid! They do seem okay when partnered, but since we still don't know what's required for Hansel, and if there will be a soul event, I'll probably skip. Love your quote there towards the end "if you do the entire fusion, and get the guaranteed and get their 6 star souls..." - that's not happening for me, so I'll save my resources.
I'm not doing a fusion that needs another champ to be any good.
Wow, nice video. I was in the fence leaning towards skipping. Hard skip now.
Thanks again
I will hold off to see what it takes to get Hansel since these fusions tend to arrive for me in shard pulls, plus I’m worn out from so many fusions, hope the Xmas one is good
To have an impact over my account I would need to have both of them with 5star soul. I don't have enough shard for all of that. I'll keep saving for the next fusion.
My biggest mistake was going for timit and Kyja, drained my resources, then I didn't have enough to go for White King and Queen. Worst choice I ever made.
Great. Now plarium is going to do a stealth 50x on Hansel (without telling anyone, of course) so that people will get him and wish they had done the fusion.
Ive done so many fusions this year for the hell of it that I might not even ever invest into. Im feeling I really shouldnt go for this one but its so tough ive sort of timed my account now to do certain actions like leveling and booking, leveling gear etc during a fusion so really holds me up when I dont do them.(only one i skipped in last 6 months was the incarnate and then I pulled her from an ancient going for thor)
I could listen to you talk all day. TY for proving info. Not sure if I will bother with this fusion.
I am really short on good damage dealers so I was really excited about this fusion. Looks like I’ll be skipping and still short good damage dealers
Was hoping the fusion was gonna be worth doing just so I had a fusion to keep me busy in the game. Think I’m gonna go back into AFK farm mode until Christmas. Sigh.
Awesome video Nub! Fusions a skip for me this time-the mythical on the other hand looks like a must have
Should be interesting to see how they pair with other couples. For example, are they better or worse than Cupidus+Venus? I won't even ask about Taras+Marichka, Narses+Ankora or Siphi+Rotos but the other Sacred Order couple is just good enough to be a fair comparison
Wait a sec. Gretel is actually doing good dmg WITH HANSEL. She took out half health UDK with what appears to be her A1. It's really not bad at all
or just use fenax lel
Seems like a pretty easy skip to me. They are "ok" but nothing I'll be going for. Thanks for the showcase!
Did Nubs let slip they’re gonna have a guarantee for Hansel? Also I wonder if these two will have key mechanics for the new event dungeon and the new Mythical will be the boss, if so they would counter a lot of the mythical’s skill from the shield buffs, true fear, switching forms and extra turns from killing enemies and Hansel skill increase skill cooldowns would help buy time for weaker team to revive champs . It seems to fit the timing of everything.
Second fusion skip in a row, gona be good resourse horde for christmas fusion.
I would suggest to try using both of them in arena, and give Hansel your max speed gear
I don´t like fusions where you have to get an additional champion to get the most out of the fusion champ. And even when they are paired together you have to have the quality of gear that the CCs have and I would bet most of the normal players don´t have..... Normally I do all the fusions but this time I am really tempted to not doing it.... also I feel a bit dissappointed.....
Plarium needs to be more transparent about what we need to do to get Hansel. Until then this is a skip for me. I have better damage dealers... like Elhain! Lol
Yah I’m done sinking time and energy into a champ that has a possibility of MAYBE being good in conditional situations…. Like I just got Thor and ain’t got time for that😂
Im really torn they seem like a prime target for buffs and I always seem to pull 1/2 of partner champs so having 1 guaranteed would be nice. I really wish it was a fragment fusion if it was I would for sure be doing it. but a full classic has me leaning towards skip. For me it will all be on how bad/good the calendar is.
So while I do agree that the pairing isn’t as strong as we’d hoped for hydra, I don’t think ninja and Varl are a fair comparison. Both of them scale their attack with time so they innately will deal more damage. Varl doesn’t have a 5 star blessing but didn’t do much more damage. I’d imagine he’d do better with the same 5* though. Ninja is a compounding effect of bonuses. Half of Mikage’s turns bring in ninja a1s which is a lot more damage, combined with the escalation passive, and combined with his turn meter fill which gives him more turns on average. All that said, I’m not saying we should all get the new duo for hydra, but most champions will perform worse than any champions with damage scaling.
Nah, i will slave for chrismast fusiom
I see what Plarium is doing. Now they are making us use all our resources to get 2 instead of 1 champ. Nice try Plarium.
Am thinking about doing it for collection incase i may get the Hansel in future but i haven't made up my mind..🤔
Doing one in SS and one without is definitely something in Arena where AI will do suboptimal move and kill one of them off, though in LA/Siege it's hard to see it work to full effect like it did here sometimes since they wouldn't kill Gretel
eg. Taras at min 20 in the video; Gretel should never be the one targeted here, pretty meh fusion honestly maybe speed farming some classic arena imo but that's about it, I can't bring myself to going for it when the cost of entry is over 20 Sacreds if you want both of them.
I’m out. I’ve been burned too many times fusing worthless champions that remain in the vault
They would work in Gold 5 classic arena but then 99% of teams work in Gold 5, she's not worth the effort even when paired with her brother. Do you want to do a full fusion for 50% of a viable champion? If the answer is yes you need to question what your goals are. Jeroboam was infinitely more useful and most players skipped him.
Skipping this, too many nukers to ever use them all and not enough artifacts to gear them all. lol
Hansel is a.much better version of Alika. IMO they look like a solid pair for pvp usage.
Alika is a bloody epic, this one is a legendary. LOL, Thor was similar classic fusion champ, and he outperforms either of the twins, without needing any second champ as a pair. If this would be a frag fusion, I might be tempted to go for it, but doing a classic one for a subpar lego, which you might use from blue shards on a 1+1 event? LOL, thanks but no thanks!
@@petergabnai6904 Yeh, your opinion bro
I'm not a fan because they're only strong as a duo and with my account it's just not worth my resources!!! Maybe the next fusion. Plus they just seem to much like an epic to me. Basher has a 2 turn lockout by him self and you need both for gretal to get after 2 turn no thank you!
you need high blessing for the duo and amazing gear to make it work?. it's going to cost fortune. no thanks.
Do you and HH time uploads? 😂 both notifications within 2mins
Plarium often gives them information in advance and tells them when they can release videos. That's why you often see a bunch of CCs release videos at the exact same time.
Yes, they do. they work together. Part of being a youtuber is planning your video releases for an optimal time.
I think you hit the nail on the head at the end. You NEED them both. They HAVE to be in great gear. And they MUST have a high level soul to be effective in arena. And thats only normal arena not live, im sure one will get banned in live and you're fucked.
I think its a skip for me.
thx for video, but not convinced at all to do this fusion, easy skip.
You should watch skratch’s video he did when Elhain was outraging gretel
I’m skipping this fusion just like the last one. She’s a meh 🫤
Easiest skip of the year. Epics do more damage.
Love a good skip
If you get both and take them into live, opponent can ban Hansel and leave you with a wasted spot
Skiiiiiiiiip......said it the day they released the info, their kits are mediocre at best
So much damage dealers.
Skip here.
More useless champs to dilute the champion pool with.
Gretel shitmain
Elhain, a rare starting champ, does more damage than Gretel. Easy skip
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Sadly a Skip!!
Nope
Gg
All these people saying skip. Presume you said the same for the last 20 odd fusions. Why not just do it? Fusions aren't difficult to complete, just requires a bit of time and effort. It's just laziness, the champions aren't bad at all
just need 20 sacreds or you end up with an useless champion because they're hardly worth it if you don't have both of them. forgot about that part? do you think Hansel's cost of entry won't be like any other guaranteed? lol
also you said they aren't bad; so doing Gretel and having her in your vault for 2 years waiting to pull Hansel is out of question
Because you need her partner to be useful and no one gonna spend 20 sacreds for a ok dmg dealer and literally everyone has wukong and thor who hit harder than these pair I'm sorry but not worth it imo
She does the same damage as elhain. People skip fusions to be able to use energy on sand devil and Minotaur
I agree fusions are easy, but why do it if she’ll just sit in the vault?
You do both? I am a low spender and can still save enough shards to be able to comfortably do this fusion, hanzel and be able to do the next one providing I'm on point with resource management and time. You never know when you may regret not doing a fusion. Look at emic, armanz, razelvarg etc
Easy skip.
Worst duo in the game.
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Worst than tim and kaj?
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@@alschirjaev9213 way worse. kaja is actually quite good, even on her own