Skip Away was a Legit Champion during his Prime who could have competed with Some of the Great Horses of this Sport in my opinion...His tactical Speed and brute force and power bounding through the stretch of his races were Top Level...Owners had to put up 480,000 to enter him in the 1997 Classic and that was a very smart and confident investment...Blew the doors off the Field...Skip Away was the real deal and will always be in my memories of Champions of this Sport...Beautiful looking horse also
I would agree. Many horses....didn't hold their top for as long as others, so it is held against them. But during their top form. Skip Away was as good as horse in the past 40 years when he was at his best. I put Rachel Alexandra in this category at least as far as fillies go. During her best, I'd say she was better than Zenyatta at her best.
@@joechrow8341 They'd destroy many fields, yes. We tend to look at that era as a "better horse racing era" --and I wholeheartedly agree. The 70s was the golden era. The 80s were great. I MIGHT even put the 90s ahead of the 1980s. Problem now, is that horses are raced to be bred, instead of bred to be raced. So with that, we look at the horses now as "not as good". The reason why, is that they don't get "embedded" in our minds, because the best horses now race about 6-9 races and are then retired. I know your post is 3 years old as of now, but the one horse from "now" (who was also raced to be bred) is/was Flightline. Based on many accounts from experts, he is as good as Secretariat. Also...look at Spectacular Bid's race record. 30: 26-2-1 . Cigar as good as he was....wasn't close to that. No one was. The last horse that I have great respect for the owners....was California Chrome. They raced him. They didn't coddle him. He raced vs the best there was, and more often than not...he won. We need more owners like that.
This was always a tough race for me to watch as my 2 favs of that era ( and of most eras) were/are Cigar and Skip Away! Thanks again for all these great vids!!
Skip Away (April 4, 1993 - May 14, 2010) * Sire: Skip Trail * Grandsire: Bailjumper * Dam: Ingot Way * Damsire: Diplomat Way * Sex: Stallion * Breeder: Anna Maria Barnhart * Owner: Carolyn Hine (R.I.P.) * Trainer: Hubert "Sonny" Hine (R.I.P.) * Jockeys: Shane Sellers Jerry Bailey Jose Santos Mike Smith * 38 Starts * 18 Wins * 10 Seconds * 8 Thirds * $ 9,616,360 earned (Current $ 15,528,900) * 1996 United States Champion 3 Year-Old Colt * 1997 & 1998 United States Champion Older Male Horse * 1998 United States Horse of the Year * Inducted to The National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 2004 * Number 32 in The Bloodhorse Magazine "Top United States 100 Racehorses of the 20th Century List" * Skip Away Handicap at Gulstream Park (Since 2001) * Skip Away at Monmouth Park * Rest In Peace, Champion! We´ll never forget you! * Greetings from Venezuela Skip Away (4 de Abril, 1993 - 14 de Mayo, 2010) * Padre: Skip Trail * Abuelo paterno: Bailjumper * Madre: Ingot Way * Abuelo materno: Diplomat Way * Sexo: Semental * Breeder: Anna Maria Barnhart * Owner: Carolyn Hine (Q.E.P.D.) * Trainer: Hubert "Sonny" Hine (Q.E.P.D.) * Jinetes: Shane Sellers Jerry Bailey José Santos Mike Smith * 38 Salidas * 18 Primeros * 10 Segundos * 8 Terceros * $ 9,616,360 producidos ($ 15,528,900 actuales) * Potro Campeón Tresañero en Estados Unidos 1996 * Caballo Campeón Maduro en Estados Unidos 1997 & 1998 * Caballo del Año en Estados Unidos 1998 * Exaltado al Museo Nacional de las Carreras y Salón de la Fama en 2004 * Número 32 en en la "Lista de los 100 Mejores Caballos de Carrera del Siglo XX en Estados Unidos" por la revista The Bloodhorse * Skip Away Handicap en el Hipódromo Gulstream Park (Desde 2001) * Skip Away en el Hipódromo Monmouth Park * ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeón! ¡Nunca te olvidaremos! * Saludos desde Venezuela
little did they know, That Skip Away would roll off another 9 grade 1's, including the fastest Breeders Cup in its history. This race was one of the last races where 2 real, weight carrying champions met. A real changing of the guard from one to another.
Jerry Bailey blew it, on Cigar llast 3 defeats. On the Paciffic Classic he went to fast too soon, on this race he went too slow and on the Breeders Cup, he went too wide.
Bailey did not turn Cigar loose early enough. Cost Cigar the win. Cigar was also carrying 5 more pounds than Skip away here. Plus Cigar was old now and had possibly lost a step or two, although the 5 pounds and Baileys mistake mainly were the difference in this one.
Skip Away and Cigar were Both still Great During this Race during their Careers but they both were not at their "Highest Level" as they used to be...Still feel Prime vs Prime Skip Away would have Held off Cigar in Stretch...Cigar had that Legendary 16 to 17 Race Win Streak but Skip Away was JUST as Good as Cigar Prime to Prime...Skip Away would have had the Pace edge like he had in this Race
Do not know how anybody can say skip Away was so much better than Cigar and how over rated Cigar was . all i can say 16 in a row and a UNDEFEATED season i rest my case
Most people dont say he was MUCH better...Only a few ignorant people say that...Skip Away and Cigar BOTH were Powerhouses in their prime...Skip away had the tactical speed advantage and Cigar was not at his absolute BEST during this race...But Skip away also got BETTER after this race
Handicap races require that horses carry an assigned weight. Cigar win 16 races in a row. He was assigned the high weight it wouldn't have mattered who ride him. He would have been required to carry 130 lbs
Cigars late losses in his career didn’t really tarnish his legacy at all. He was right there in every race except the pacific classic where Bailey admits he misjudged the ride.
Cigar was a great horse..great winning streak..but Skip Away was a better horse in my opinion..Easy Goer was probably the best horse out of them all though
@Ved Valmyr Beaten twice on a Curchill Downs wet strip that his hooves floated over and never grabbed. Pat Day on his knees begging Shug to still be allowed to ride Easy. Three Grade I route wins over older horses (first time in over 90 years). Fastest 3yo mile ever. I think not, fanboi. Take the homer glasses from over your eyes and realize that the 8 length drubbing Easy gave SS in the Belmont, was a truer measure of the difference between the two horses than was a mere nose, neck or head margin, in the end. Same thing with Moan O'War devotees, as great as that horse was. His owner Sam Riddle DUCKED Exterminator TWICE.
When Cigar faced superior runners, he didn´t look like "that super horse". He lost all those races while facing real top horses like Skip Away. Please, if I´m wrong, tell me the name of a very good horse Cigar had defeated. Hey, Holy Bull doesn´t count
One of my favorite races of all time. Shane is my friend and I was screaming when they beat Cigar.😊
Skip Away was a Legit Champion during his Prime who could have competed with Some of the Great Horses of this Sport in my opinion...His tactical Speed and brute force and power bounding through the stretch of his races were Top Level...Owners had to put up 480,000 to enter him in the 1997 Classic and that was a very smart and confident investment...Blew the doors off the Field...Skip Away was the real deal and will always be in my memories of Champions of this Sport...Beautiful looking horse also
I would agree. Many horses....didn't hold their top for as long as others, so it is held against them. But during their top form. Skip Away was as good as horse in the past 40 years when he was at his best. I put Rachel Alexandra in this category at least as far as fillies go. During her best, I'd say she was better than Zenyatta at her best.
2 of the Best Horses in the last 30 years. I was at Belmont that day. Thanks for posting.
Easy Goer....Skip Away and Cigar were Awesome...Both would be destroying Fields today
@@joechrow8341 Without a doubt!!!
Holy Bull - Cigar - Skip Away
@@DanielSong39
And don't forget Easy Goer and Sunday Silence
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Best regards from Venezuela 🇻🇪
@@joechrow8341 They'd destroy many fields, yes. We tend to look at that era as a "better horse racing era" --and I wholeheartedly agree. The 70s was the golden era. The 80s were great. I MIGHT even put the 90s ahead of the 1980s. Problem now, is that horses are raced to be bred, instead of bred to be raced. So with that, we look at the horses now as "not as good". The reason why, is that they don't get "embedded" in our minds, because the best horses now race about 6-9 races and are then retired. I know your post is 3 years old as of now, but the one horse from "now" (who was also raced to be bred) is/was Flightline. Based on many accounts from experts, he is as good as Secretariat. Also...look at Spectacular Bid's race record. 30: 26-2-1 . Cigar as good as he was....wasn't close to that. No one was. The last horse that I have great respect for the owners....was California Chrome. They raced him. They didn't coddle him. He raced vs the best there was, and more often than not...he won. We need more owners like that.
Skippy had the greatest stride I've seen in person.
What a race and what a call by Tom Durkin
This was always a tough race for me to watch as my 2 favs of that era ( and of most eras) were/are Cigar and Skip Away! Thanks again for all these great vids!!
Both Cigar and Skip Away were great horses in there time every horse runs in there time and each were best in there time
Except super horses are best of anytime!!! Big Red of 73’
Skippy was a Beast as well. Love both these Champions.
passing the torch
Love Skippy
Skip Away
(April 4, 1993 - May 14, 2010)
* Sire: Skip Trail
* Grandsire: Bailjumper
* Dam: Ingot Way
* Damsire: Diplomat Way
* Sex: Stallion
* Breeder: Anna Maria Barnhart
* Owner: Carolyn Hine (R.I.P.)
* Trainer: Hubert "Sonny" Hine (R.I.P.)
* Jockeys: Shane Sellers
Jerry Bailey
Jose Santos
Mike Smith
* 38 Starts
* 18 Wins
* 10 Seconds
* 8 Thirds
* $ 9,616,360 earned (Current $ 15,528,900)
* 1996 United States Champion 3 Year-Old Colt
* 1997 & 1998 United States Champion Older Male Horse
* 1998 United States Horse of the Year
* Inducted to The National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 2004
* Number 32 in The Bloodhorse Magazine "Top United States 100 Racehorses of the 20th Century List"
* Skip Away Handicap at Gulstream Park (Since 2001)
* Skip Away at Monmouth Park
* Rest In Peace, Champion! We´ll never forget you!
* Greetings from Venezuela
Skip Away
(4 de Abril, 1993 - 14 de Mayo, 2010)
* Padre: Skip Trail
* Abuelo paterno: Bailjumper
* Madre: Ingot Way
* Abuelo materno: Diplomat Way
* Sexo: Semental
* Breeder: Anna Maria Barnhart
* Owner: Carolyn Hine (Q.E.P.D.)
* Trainer: Hubert "Sonny" Hine (Q.E.P.D.)
* Jinetes: Shane Sellers
Jerry Bailey
José Santos
Mike Smith
* 38 Salidas
* 18 Primeros
* 10 Segundos
* 8 Terceros
* $ 9,616,360 producidos ($ 15,528,900 actuales)
* Potro Campeón Tresañero en Estados Unidos 1996
* Caballo Campeón Maduro en Estados Unidos 1997 & 1998
* Caballo del Año en Estados Unidos 1998
* Exaltado al Museo Nacional de las Carreras y Salón de la Fama en 2004
* Número 32 en en la "Lista de los 100 Mejores Caballos de Carrera del Siglo XX en Estados Unidos" por la revista The Bloodhorse
* Skip Away Handicap en el Hipódromo Gulstream Park (Desde 2001)
* Skip Away en el Hipódromo Monmouth Park
* ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeón! ¡Nunca te olvidaremos!
* Saludos desde Venezuela
Skip Away 🐎 is a full brother to my horse❤, what a great race 5:36 🐎♥️🌹
You just don't see races like this anymore
Skip Away was a Great Top Rival for Anyone during his Prime...Makes me think of How Good Formal Gold was Turning into before he retired
Formal Gold was an excellent horse that beat Skip away several times in 1997
little did they know, That Skip Away would roll off another 9 grade 1's, including the fastest Breeders Cup in its history. This race was one of the last races where 2 real, weight carrying champions met. A real changing of the guard from one to another.
Jerry Bailey blew it, on Cigar llast 3 defeats. On the Paciffic Classic he went to fast too soon, on this race he went too slow and on the Breeders Cup, he went too wide.
3 things mahogany hall was gorgeous. cigar was a ridiculous price off a gimme woodward and kudos to skippy-tough as nails
Skip Away had Cigar's number, all right.
Bailey did not turn Cigar loose early enough. Cost Cigar the win. Cigar was also carrying 5 more pounds than Skip away here. Plus Cigar was old now and had possibly lost a step or two, although the 5 pounds and Baileys mistake mainly were the difference in this one.
He had to give away 5! Skippy was a colt! Loui quatorze soften him up and stillll cigar couldn’t get by !
Or Skip Away was just better this day. So many will always dig and scratch for an excuse. One isn't always needed.
When cigar hook that curve he reminds me of alysheeba. Great race he ran bia heart out.
Simply put, if you didn't have the mortgage money on Skip Away, you deserved to lose.
Hey Partymanners! Thank you so much for all your great videos. Do you have skip away's 1997 jcgc win? If u do, please upload it! regards
Skip Away and Cigar were Both still Great During this Race during their Careers but they both were not at their "Highest Level" as they used to be...Still feel Prime vs Prime Skip Away would have Held off Cigar in Stretch...Cigar had that Legendary 16 to 17 Race Win Streak but Skip Away was JUST as Good as Cigar Prime to Prime...Skip Away would have had the Pace edge like he had in this Race
Agreed, in their prime, Skip was at least equal to Cigar.
Do not know how anybody can say skip Away was so much better than Cigar and how over rated Cigar was . all i can say 16 in a row and a UNDEFEATED season i rest my case
Most people dont say he was MUCH better...Only a few ignorant people say that...Skip Away and Cigar BOTH were Powerhouses in their prime...Skip away had the tactical speed advantage and Cigar was not at his absolute BEST during this race...But Skip away also got BETTER after this race
I was there!!!!!!!!❤ 8:04
After being too close to a fast pace at Del mar, Bailey was gun shy in the Gold cup.
2 Great horses...Personally i always felt Skip Away was better than Cigar while both at their peak
I tend to agree with you, Cigar just never impressed me.
Why did Paulson and trainer Mott settle for the 130 lb jock Bailey on Cigar? Does anyone know why he constantly carried that extra weight?
Handicap races require that horses carry an assigned weight. Cigar win 16 races in a row. He was assigned the high weight it wouldn't have mattered who ride him. He would have been required to carry 130 lbs
Louis Quatorze is my horses father!!!
Louis Quatorze was also a excellent horse. He was always tough as nails.
Cigars late losses in his career didn’t really tarnish his legacy at all. He was right there in every race except the pacific classic where Bailey admits he misjudged the ride.
He got beat fairly by the 3 year old champion who went on to become a great race horse, case closed!!!
Cigar was a great horse..great winning streak..but Skip Away was a better horse in my opinion..Easy Goer was probably the best horse out of them all though
Terrific Troll Sunday Silence was better than the ridiculously overrated Easy Goer.
Terrific Troll Cigar gave Skip Away five pounds, that was the difference here, two great horses, though.
@Ved Valmyr Beaten twice on a Curchill Downs wet strip that his hooves floated over and never grabbed. Pat Day on his knees begging Shug to still be allowed to ride Easy. Three Grade I route wins over older horses (first time in over 90 years). Fastest 3yo mile ever.
I think not, fanboi. Take the homer glasses from over your eyes and realize that the 8 length drubbing Easy gave SS in the Belmont, was a truer measure of the difference between the two horses than was a mere nose, neck or head margin, in the end. Same thing with Moan O'War devotees, as great as that horse was. His owner Sam Riddle DUCKED Exterminator TWICE.
@@kevinmichael686 Skip Away was only a 3 year old so he got a break in weight! Bailey didn't realize that Skip Away would outgame his horse!
@@wizard9403 can you up looad the 97 jc gold cup
Skippy was always better
Too far back early. That big move was way to long.
I don't think Bailey figured on Skippy being as game as he was.
When Cigar faced superior runners, he didn´t look like "that super horse". He lost all those races while facing real top horses like Skip Away. Please, if I´m wrong, tell me the name of a very good horse Cigar had defeated. Hey, Holy Bull doesn´t count
THATS WHAT I SAID OVER 20 YEARS AGO
Cigar drifted in the deep stretch. Didn't have enough to catch Skip Away...
SUPER IKILER HORSE CIGAR VE SKIP AWAY SAMPIYON
Jerry Bailey lost this race. Waited too long to advance. Case closed.
Bailey just not as good of as a jockey as you. If they'd have let you ride, he'd have won. Right Manny?
Ghostzapper would beat them all!
Zapper was an extremely fast horse.
zap and red yes fast super fast but leave the greatness to the geldings
On the right day, yes. He was as good as Skippy and Cigar. But to make a blanket statement like that....makes you sound dumb.
@dancesmartly1 Ditto here, dancesmartly...
Cigar = OVERRATED
How can anyone in their right mind say 16 in a row, overrated you cant
Cigar was the most overrated horse of the 1990's. Easy Goer was the most overrated horse of the 1980's.
Like you, overrated!
Dumb comment.
Yea and you are the stupidest person in the room...