Why Arabs And Muslims Aren't Exotic | AJ+
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- Опубликовано: 9 дек 2017
- From Aladdin to Bodak Yellow, the media is obsessed with portraying Arabs and Muslims as exotic and mysterious. So why is this sort of imagery so pervasive?
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Also how africa ... (yes the whole continent ) get portrayed as poor dusty and dirty..... and usa as the hero in all situations coming to save the day....
Vanetia Mentor Africa is probably the richest continent in natural resources. European countries still cause chaos there to take the gold, diamonds and oil. We are the suckers that fall for every b.s. told to us.
USA coming to save the day? Is that the African perception?
Vanetia Mentor as far as i have Seen Africa is indeed dusty and poor, though you forgot to add corrupt
Yeah
Ingrid P not every where in Africa is like that
Most people from the USA never travel abroad so they have a limited view of the world .
Because it's too far/isolated from the rest of the world
linus karlshammar not really. I lived in the US for years now and I can assure you that every single nationality can be here. So no it's not "too far from the rest of the world" because the world isn't that big. If so why other people are capable of coming here but Americans can't?
its mostly the one that cant aford to see the rest of the world and afford collge to learn other cultures the more privleged americans can afford to go to dubai and egypt and see the world and not just get their news from fox news
They believe the world are centered around them..
I agree. Also I don't think they knew the rest of the world is gonna see those movies. Or at least not the "Arab world " . It's like they are making them only for American people. Didn't expect them to be world wide seen .😂
bro muslim ain’t a freaking race. Anyone from any ethnicity could be a muslim so the title doesn’t make any sense.
ew no ikr 😂
Why Arab/Muslim use the word "racist" to describe racist-like actions toward Muslims is that because the Arabic word for "racist" include all kinds of transgressions (or racist-like actions) against a specific race, religion, or even gender. In other words, in Arabic the word "racism/racist" include other kinds of symbolism such as gender and religious belief.
ikr. americans must be so proud of their eduction
Exactly. There are Hispanic Muslims, African Muslims, Asian Muslims, even European Muslims. These people look stupid saying Muslim is a race. It’s like saying Christians are a race.
He was referring to an ethnic group and a religious group who live in the orient. Not necessarily a "race". Besides we are all the same race, cause there's only one....The human race ...With many ethnic groups.
I’m an Egyptian, born and raised in a Mediterranean town and the only time I’ve seen a desert was in Vegas.
good one bro 😂😂😂
greetings from jordan
Ardget thanks lol greeting:)
you are in a desert, it just has buildings over it, still a desert tho
@@wsdadasdawf8384 i’m so sorry that you don’t have a passport, nor a map lol
@@Enjoytheshow435 first of all what passport second of all its like Phoenix, looks like a city but really its a desert
We do have cities and malls like you guys we are not aliens lol
Yamada Mokoto they wanna say that middle east is dangerous but still saying they wanna go dubai lMAO
they too have cities, so it would be redundant to show a city. Also I think they know that already
We have had cities before their countries even came into being. Before any of the current surviving religions even existed. We are the cradle of civilization, that is something they will never take from us. The Mesopotamia region and Egypt at the very least.
••Pathetic Being•• knows he is a illegal space alien.
Yeah, but that doesn't apply to films like Aladdin on this list. That film was based, like, thousands of years ago.
“Oh you’re Arab! You don’t look like princess jasmine!”
“ yeah sorry I forgot my pet tiger home”
I hate when that happens
Literally nobody says that😂😂😂
wtf someone said that? no way
facts lmao
They just say, big nose you have.
@@Andrea-sl8wd honey, not all of us have big noses
*i mean, well i do but no all of us do*
Someone online legit thought I was in a desert living in a tent near the pyramids with only a camel for transportation and no technology available to me because I told them I'm Egyptian...
Happened to me a couple of times...
LMAO
Lol
This is truly funny
thanks to this sort of media betrayal my siblings and I grew up “lightly” being called terrorists by other classmates, and I always felt like I had to be extra nice to people to compensate for the bad rep Arabs get in order to assert the “we’re not all inherently evil okay”
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Same. It must be a lot harder for a female though. When it was said about me most of the time it was a joke thankfully. Must be harder to have dealt with it as a girl since people would most of the time say it in order to hurt your feelings. I'm sorry.
@@dodosback it was delivered in a comedic way most of the time, sometimes it was to provoke some sort of reaction but yeah people can be ignorant i guess, having said that the world is getting a little *too* PC in my opinion
I lived with Muslims when I was working in the UK. Two guys from Egypt they were super nice and even invited me for breakfast. I was 18 at the time and this was post 9/11 but I never had a deep seeded disdain towards Muslims anyway.
It's a disgrace to the supposedly best country on earth that in 2019, we still demonize and dehumanize ppl based on their ethnicity, but America's just another country and isn't as awesome or special as ppl make it out to be, so I shouldn't be shocked
@@lilahdog568 No country is special. All countries have skeletons and prejudices in their closet.
I'm from a Moroccan background, but I was born in the US in 1992 and grew up in northern NJ. When I saw Aladdin as a kid, I didn't even register it as an Arab film. I thought it was more Indian-Hindu or something. I think that speaks to how mis-represented the Arab world was. At least now, Disney wouldn't be able to get away with a movie like that again.
There are themes from all the cultures you mentioned, in the film. The overwhelming misconception is that the setting is in the ME, when it indeed is in NW India.
Mounir Baroudi
Me too I always thought Aladdin as an Indian movie done by Disney 😂
I’m half Moroccan and half Bengali but I was raised in London, it looked more Bengali/Indian to me and nothing moroccan/arab when I watched Aladdin.
Saaaame 😂🤦🏻♀️
I love the movie but I think Disney tried to create a token "brown" princess that would portray ALL of the middle east and south asia so they could kind of check those regions off their list. The movie is honestly a cultural mess!
I'm Asian American and I felt the same way when I watched Mulan.
OK, Chew Her! Only people from East Asia are classed as (the) Asians, in America. Though East Asia is just one of the similar sized other arts of Asia - Middle East (West Asia), South Asia, South East Asia, Central Asia & North Asia (Siberia mainly). It breeds bad education among American children. They don't see a Middle Easterner (from Turkey, Iran, Jordan or Israel - yes, Israel is in Asia nor Europe) as Asian at all. They grow up (some have already grown up idiots) & argue on demographic-ethnic nuances in Asia to divide continents. It is exasperating. Why don't they teach Geography (what is being taught there - if at all - isn't Geography) in America?
To ask for a show to completely accurately portray a whole culture with all it's multifaceted parts is quite a big ask.
But I feel that the discourse surrounding the west, about how it's a white supremacist patriarchy is kind of like the new Orientalism, but now just about the Occident. In this discourse the Occident is seen as a monolithic block of world devouring megalomaniacal toxic masculinity.
You're dumb, how is mulan offensive?
@@baamonster2 well if you're from Northwestern China, then you won't like how they portrayed the Huns lol. Mulan was also unpopular in China as it's humor and characters behavior and way of speaking was very Americanized. It would probably appeal to Chinese-Americans more than mainland China
@@civilengineer3349 Well it wasn't meant for Chinese and was meant for Western audience, so there
Princess Jasmine is actually Iraqi from Baghdad. 🇮🇶
SEE I CAN FINALLY PROVE TO MY FRIENDS THAT I AM THE REAL LIFE JASMINE jk but finally some Iraqi representation ❤️🇮🇶
Ayat Y.R oof i am from Iraq,Baghdad 😂
@@HyunjinAesthetic wow, im very surprise that iraq still got the internet despite war
شكلها مال هنديه يا عراقيه 🤣😂انوب من بغداد
@Jay A Disney isn't the writer of the story, so it doesn't matter what they say. It is a chinese story, so jasmine is chinese.
Stereotyping a whole country or a religious group based on an imagination . Which they portrait in movies , music only American can do that with their minimum knowledge about outer world and culture and assume something so easily.
Everyone in every fuking country have an stereotypical view of every other country. It just happens that those faties (us americans) are really good creating movies.
Rodrigo Castillo the worst is the western ppl they stereotyping other ppl are evils and they are hero...and they propogate it in media and holly wood
@@presbourg you just said that western people are the worst. Isn't that an stereotype? And why is that wrong? People like to find easy patterns in everything, it's natural, it's stupid, but natural. Everybody in every country think the people that are not like them are the worst. Don't be a hypocrite.
@@rodrigocastillo9825 I mean historically westerns are the worst.lol
@@Userdoesnotexit Ok.
Indians and arabs aren’t the same
John Nish did you watch the whole video?
bingo! Al-Jazeera acting like this affects only Arabs/Muslims
John Nish but indians and pakistanis are similar apart from the religion however i know alot of sikh people that live in pakistan.
ZULU ZERO there are no Sikh Pakistanis
No one said they were
I'm an Arab Christian and i feel like when people say Arabs they mean Muslim.
And I agree when I watched aladdin growing up I saw it as this foreign land because it's so not the reality
Mona Z
And i'm Arab Atheist and some stupid people thinks that all Arabs are muslims .
muna boulos True! Not only that, when people say Muslim they always think of Arab, you can be Arab and not a Muslim, and you can be Muslim and not an Arab.
Wrath of Achilles
Yeah of course...
muna boulos ممكن نتعرف؟ انتي من وين؟ انا كمان مسيحي من الاردن
La Gata Azul Exactly it bugs me out even though I'm Muslim
Americans really need to travel overseas more often...
The American already do. The Americans have 800+ military bases across the world.
@Mohammed Alshoaibl as much as I would love to travel overseas I don't have that kind of money.
nah their educational system gotta add up geography lessons asap
@@guardianoffire8814 good one
@Syphax Atlas Let me guess the pandemic. :) unless it's something else
We Pakistanis aren't Arabs !!
Soooo true don't know why people call us 😒
Is being arabian make u feel ashamed or what? Relax no one cares
Then you all should stop trying to act like them.
we shouldn't feel ashamed.
@@kareemr3436
Let me tell you one thing only 2% of Pakistanis would be proper arab .
Rest have much more a mixture of Indian,Afghan,Greek and a little Turkish DNA
i am a russian and i lived in egypt for 15 years, and you know what i miss them i wish i can go back and live with them.
This is good to read, Come back as nearest as you can!!! All Love From Egypt.
يا ضنااااايا 😍 انا من المغرب على فكرة بس أسعدني التعليق دا ❤❤🇲🇦
I am Algerian and im very fond of Egyptians they are cool and kind with a great sense of humor 😍😍😍
Our egyptian siblings are cool, generous, and kind we are pretty sure u enjoyed your life there 😍😍♥
Egypt was lit
I'm Italian, first in my family born in America(i also happen to be a Muslim revert). Our culture has this happened alot. As soon as someone finds out I'm italian, I hear something like "I love Olive Garden! Do you have family in the Mafia?".
Its not as bad now, but when my family first came here, my mother wouldn't even let me speak Italian in public, because of how she had been treated.
matthewburanich
Relatable, I'm sorry your mother got treated like that. Anyway don't let them stop you from embracing your culture and mother tongue.
Iman E oh I'm very proud of my culture, that is one thing we kept at home. American culture is so bland haha. Unfortunately I understand Italian, but can only speak a little.
matthewburanich
👍 that's great and heey you can always take classes or learn it if you want to.
shield&sword peace wa iyaak. Yes in America there is this expectation and social pressure to fully assimilate, often shaming you if you don't.
shield&sword peace
Ameen brother may Allah bless you too, but I'm a sister lol. Yeah, I think it's cause American culture and English language are more dominant. I live in Europe too and most foreigner I know do speak /understand ( or some of) their mother tongue (it depends). But we kind of lose it too :( . Germany is closer to Italy, maybe they visit more often and that way they can practice speaking more?
Truth! Aladdin is a cool story that is badly executed.
mana269 Should he have been executed by stoning, crucifixion or beheading?
Twittering Machine 🤦🏽♀️
@@morugascorpion6021 what is wrong with you?
@@morugascorpion6021 Don't read Bible too much.Specially the old testaments.
Moruga Scorpion you know what’s funny? Islam forbids all 3 of what you just said
I'm Iranian and I'm studying fashion, I wanna show the culture in my brand and I'm not exoticizing it to offend other middle easterns. So I apparently I can't do it anymore?
As a turk I LOVE iranian names and culture. You guys have a great language.
@@disco_depression as a arab i love and respect turks and persians🤩😀😀😀
Live the ottoman caliphat
We are brothers in faith and religions
I love turkish drama
I know some turks words : evet(yes)
Yok(no)coke gusel and seniseviyurum( i love you )
@@imanelabyad6951 same habibi
I think iranians are pretty close to Arabs in culture so it's okay
I'd do what you want and try your best not to worry about what either racist/over-sensitive ppl think
this doesn't only affect Muslims or arabs, this affects mena minorities aswell, like armenians, assyrians, persians, etc. this vid is great, thank you for talking abt this.
Yes! People always associate Muslims with Arabic people. Well, there is a whole bunch of other countries mispresented.
He did say that
Come on, we have wild west and medieval fantasy too. I don't understand why some people are butthurt toward this.
We all know it's just dramatization for the sake of entertainment.
We have literally been part of the middle east forever. Even if you consider the Caucasus separate from the middle east, an opinion I disagree with, but can respect) Armenians still have communities all over middle east. Armenian Americans also face anti-middle east discrimination. Like profiling at airports, and having to deal with trumps Muslim ban (even though trump said it won't affect Christians, parskehay and beirutsi Armenians were still deported for no reason). From my experience of living the US I've personally had to deal with discrimination for being armenian.
if that's how you feel nothing I say can change that, but I still disagree because the protagonist in all those wild west movies is white so that person being white has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Also having tech be placed in the wrong decade is different then blending all the cultures in half of asia together. Bu me saying this will ultimatly change nothing because what are the chances someone changes their opinions because of an argument in the youtube comments section
Its so annoying non Arabs always think that us Arabs balling and don't know what to do with our money. Sure a lot of Arabs live luxurious lifestyles but that doesn't mean you get to categorize us all like that.
its because of the wealth inequality my dude. rich russians/chinese get the same response. its not a blanket thing these people used tyranny and slavery to build their cities
Sarah no one thinks that anyway so you’re fine
oh boo hoo lmaoooo
@water tastes so good People does. Especially the idiot Western people. They think we are all living like the rich families in the Gulf states which don't even respresent the whole Arab world.
How about the arab spring 2011? Poverty, cruelty unemployment started a revolution. It's not like people got bored
And why is the only thing Americans know about Egypt the pyramids and camels? Dang.
Don't 4get bellydancing 💃
I know for a fact that you all have flying carpets.
You also have no defenses against marauding mummies. Poor you.
you forgot mummies.
They don't teach us a lot about other countries in school.
@@Bloody-Butterfly your life doesn’t revolve around the American education system, google it, educate yourself!
I am an arab .. and i love all my brothers in islam .. 😙😙 especially indonesians and bangladish
Bestryful HD thanks 🇮🇩
@Noble Six
Hahaha .. first u need to check if your parents are ur real parents +/+
Thanks habibi🇧🇩🇧🇩
Love you brother for Allah
Not all muslim are middle eastern
*Thank you for helping bring this to light! This has a very real impact on arabs, muslims, other stereotyped groups, and those who lived with false ideas or pretenses surrounding them.*
Cassandra Bankson I’m a big fan of ur channel Cassandra!! And as a white European Muslim I agree. And Arabs can be Christian there not all Muslim and ANYONE can be a Muslim just like ANYONE can be a Christian :)
Ayyyyyyy ma gurrrrll
Cassandra Bankson Bee movie show false infomation of White People
Literally EVERY group in the entire world is stereotyped you dummy. No need to feel special.
@tubester you realize jews are worlds most hateful people? They hate africans, Arabs,Muslims, everyone! Have you met a askenazi jewish family??
You need to do one on how Native Americans are portrayed as 19th-century people, and how many Native Americans have taken this on as their "identity," rather than the image of contemporary people who are still here.
Absolutely. Native Americans have been subjected to this for a very, very long time. It has continued to hurt them.
because of residential schools we've lost our culture and had to create or fill in details,, example the medicine wheel.
Residential schools that are other-culture based and either/or ignorant or hostile to native culture.
that isn't a complete sentence,
There's an excellent documentary about this, it's called "Reel Injun"
I didn't choose to be Lebanese
I just got lucky
The land of Phoenicia.
Zeratul Of Aiur we are arabs with Phoenician origins, because we have lots of arabian dna soo
@@mariorizkallah5383 Still, it is the land of Phoenicia, and it is our heritage, and we should cherish it. Everybody is a mix these days. DNA has nothing to do with the fact that still, Lebanon is is the land of Phoenicia.
@@zeratulofaiur2589 but we're arabs
@@akramalmoughraby9992 are we gonna have the usual "Arab/Phoenician" Argument 🤣
I’m Arab and I actually support this cuz it’s in our tradition to invite people into our culture me seeing these artist and movies and all this stuff makes me happy that people are actually liking our tradition and enjoying it so I’m not offended by any means
Note: Iranians aren't Arabs!
They're Persians.
Edit: "mostly Persians". Also Kurd, Lur, Balouchi, Azeri turks and Turkic people and also some Arab people in the south.
ANNA chan one trigerred persian but hey whatever one piece fan. Anime the only religion kappa
Last time I️ checked, the Persian empire doesn’t exist anymore. Iranians are Iranians.
Tamana Fatah maybe you should check your knowledge on the difference btwn ethnicity and nationality. you can be persian and iranian at the same time
Jorhem
60 percent of iranian are persians and ethnic groups like lurs or kurds or ... in iran are close to persians. Name of iran in western languages and history is persia.
Jorhem
You are stupid or something? im persian and I know what is persian and what is not. Its like I discuss with a Chinese about china.
Arab and proud
And?
LOL
love the four triggered comments by this simple comment
These are some of the most racist comments I have ever seen.
@@legitimist1357
You must have just started using the Internet then.
@@polybian_bicycle True lmao
I mean I am from Algeria but I don't go believing everything I watch on TV or the about other countries.
Mahmood Akrout we are almost the same we have the same history religion language and so on.. but of course there are some differences but not too many
I wish absolutely not the same history or language. What are you on? 🤣
@LV skinny most algerians don't know a word in Berber, there are berbers who speak their own language and the rest speak darija which is 70% Arabic and 30% foreign languages
@Zayd V you can't be more wrong..Lebanon is not jsut beyrout..and egypt is not what you see in their media and movies...north African mentality is still close to the French lifestyle even though they are Muslim..so yeah...
@Zayd V not offended here ..but it is funny to me to say that Egyptians are open minded ..when i visited with my sister...guys were hitting on her even when she was inside the taxi regardless that i was there...like they never seen a woman before .also even 12 years old girls wear hijab ..i was shocked..even though it was the capital..letalone other regions....maybe you meant these countries are more touristics..but nothing about the middle eastren mindset is open minded ...at least not more than the north african ones
almost 99% of the comments starts with "I AM....."
LOL
lawrence hasn and you got your country's flag there that's why your comment didn't start with I'm hehe.
Okey...I'm not arab. I'm chinese. I'm muslim.
Wahyu Tyassholiha noice
lawrence hasn 🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴
Couldn't find a single one.
Exotic is relative. Im Native American and Ive been called exotic. Orientalism is what White Men (west) do and how they feel about the Middle East, they do this to all others too. Everybody else is less than. That way they can justify their behavior towards everybody else.
17 Days you know that not all white people are like that. Just because there are a few doesn’t mean the whole race.
I am here because the title about Arabs. I actually never watched the whole video to be honest but not gonna say more things only I would like to say:
I'm proud of being Arab and Muslim
and peace to the world
@Jack Jack
How can I harm people with my Arabic identity Mr. Jack?
Being proud of what you born to be doesn’t mean you have to despise others
@Jack Jack wtf is wrong with you?
I think Slavic culture is very exoticized in a similar fashion in the West and it'd be super interesting to see a video about that as well.
Fear of Russia make them scared to make about it
I agree. Me as a Slavic living in Italy I experience on daily basis questions am I from particular Slavic Eastern European country? But me as a Slavic visiting Lebanon, they thought that I am Lebanese! Such an enlightenment!
That’s a valid point. There is a long history of portraying the Slavic world as simultaneously exotic and threatening, in much the same way as the Orient. Russia specifically was perceived by Western Europeans/Americans as a dangerous mix of Occidental and Oriental culture because it straddles both Europe and Asia.
@@dimetronome a normal republican american might think middle east and russia are planning to destroy the west together
I'm glad someone mentioned this topic. Whenever I make new online friends they be like "OMG but you don't look Arabian at all. You don't look like Jasmine from Aladdin and you don't act like an Arab" and I'm like how dumb can people get
Anton EightBall actually I had a lot tell me that and I also had others who asked if I looked like Cleopatra because I'm Egyptian. People think Arabs still wear that old Jasmine costume and Egypians are still Pharoahs and I'm not really THAT desperate to look for attention online :)
Anton EightBall Trust me almost everyone thinks that. They think Egyptians live in Pyramids and Arabs still live in tents and that we go to school by camels. They barely even know where Egypt is on the map. I'm not saying them asking if I look like Cleopatra is a bad thing, I'm just surprised at how uneducated people are
well i am French/Moroccan half Gibraltarian so european on the side of my mother and my father is european half north african, one year i went to visit the country of my paternal grandfather my friends came with me, one of them told me "but it's snowing here, there is the ocean and the sea, oh I did not know that 'There were cities,old historical cities, houses, cars, I thought that people move in camels and live in aunts I really thought that Morocco was sahara desert I never knew there were different landscapes and weather "" oo peoples do not look alike , they are not all Muslims but also Jewish besides they do not kill each other astonishing " during all the holidays I was entitled to this kind of comments...
Anton EightBall cleopatra is greek
Nadine Zacharya do ur belly dance
I remember, one day, Homeland was on the television and I watched the whole episode and didn't realise that it was supposed to be my city until later mentioned. Point being, it is nothing how we are. It wasn't shot here, most of the actors were Arabs while Pakistanis are South Asians and it was nothing how my city is. It was shot in a deserted place while Ilsmabad is a forest city on the border of the Himalayas.
Hassaan Tauseef have u seen Avengers?? Wen natasha romanoff goes to find dr. Banner in Kolkata.. The city is shown with military tanks with terrorist with guns nd super poor nd diseased people... I live in kolkata.. They show a war torn city instead of a real kolkata..which is a peaceful metropolitan city... Nd they even put hindi dialogues.. People in kolkata speak Bengali.. Not hindi.. I hate it.
i feel you pain, such think could even happened to my homecity/country
David Pusnik it's not pain.. It's disgust that how little importance the writers give to all this.. Just create a fake city.. Why give people wrong notions about real places..
Wait...Islamabad isnt on the border of the himalays. That's gilgit... but nonetheless I agree
Homeland in general is the most racist show
Thank you for talking about this topic this video has a great amount of information and vocabulary that will help me to be brave to participate in serious conversations in the future .✨
my dear this is very well wrong in simpler words so plz dont start a converstation about it
As an Indian I think the song by coldplay was cool and show old culture of India
Remember india was actually influenced by aryans and aryans were arab ( iranian)
Arab here, Arab there, Arab this, Arab that... one of the most misused terms in history, referring to a large number of populations in North Africa and the Middle East, with different ethnic origins, different histories, different ancestral languages (some of which still spoken today), different dialects, etc, as if they were the same people who somehow poured out of the desert of Arabia in the 7th century and drove everyone else into the sea. FACT: they didn't. Only the populations of the Arabian peninsula, Jordan, and possibly South Iraq and South Syria, are predominantly of Arab origin. Edward Said himself is descended from Phoenicians and Canaanites, not Arabs. A sad little lie that has been perpetuated by media.
By the same logic, most of "Latin America" should be called "Spanish". A Brazilian should be called "Portuguese". A Quebecois or Senegalese should called "French". But instead we have terms like "Hispanic", "Lusophone", and "Francophone", to indicate that the link is linguistic and cultural, rather than ethnic or genetic. We should have a similar term "Arabophone" or "Arabaic" or such to indicate the same thing for many countries and populations in North Africa and the Middle East.
Theophagous An excellent comment ! Thank you so much for sharing. As a recent Egyptian immigrant to the US of Greco-Roman decent I was always in the minority that still knows that there is a difference between the near east (Mediterranean region ) vs the Middle East (the Arabian peninsula) in terms of history, food, ethnicity, race, language, etc... I am not and have never been “Arab” or “middle Eastern” and it actually offended me in Egypt and still offends me now when Americans describe me as such, even if their intentions were otherwise. The history of the Mediterranean is great, ancient, and glorious! The actual cradle of human civilization! The Middle East has its own history with its own moments of glory as well. However, the people and identity are NOT the same. Once again, thank you.
The most frustrating thing is how the Arabized people of North Africa and the Near East would fight you tooth and nail, when you point out that they are genetically non-Arabs, as proven by numerous scientific studies.
Theophagous I'm North African, I don't for sure know if I'm 100% Arabic, but I might not be. Since my great grandfather spoke Italian only, and my great grandmother was of Amazigh descent. But since we have been Arabized, I'd just go with it. I usually refer myself as North African or Mediterranean, but sometimes Arabian.
Theophagous how can you assume you know the origins of this and that region? You should check with people who actually DNA tested before talking.
winxclubstellamusa what do you make of the native Egyptians? You're also one of them ,you're mixed, accept it
I'am Muslim and proud to be so
Who is like me ❤❤❤
mīrīٍñgī gälägŤīĶoṩ ễl pħễٍñomīٍño
Why does every other paragraph of the Koran say I belong in the flame for not being a Muslim? Cuz I recently purchased the book, and I find it's attitude towards non-Muslims to be extraordinarily bigoted and indefensible.
EnK Ryzov thanks for your reply
But ,my english language is weak and i use the translate but i didn't find the correct translate for your question . i understand your question but i can't answer you 💐💐
I'm sorry
Find someone else
mīrīٍñgī gälägŤīĶoṩ ễl pħễٍñomīٍño I am
mīrīٍñgī gälägŤīĶoṩ ễl pħễٍñomīٍño I'm not muslim but I like to pretend to be on the internet.
mīrīٍñgī gälägŤīĶoṩ ễl pħễٍñomīٍño I am a proud kafir !❤❤❤
When I was younger I thought alladin was a hindu movie so did everyone in my class to.
Lol oh my god so I'm not the only one
😑 alladin has nothing to do with India or indian culture...
Lol im arabic ant i thought thst too😂😂
oussama chalbi wow lol, shows how much general knowledge people have these days.
Well the original story is set in china not Arabia or India.
I travel a lot. A lot of places I’ve been have Arab and Muslim populations. I know it’s surprising because the West would stop making money if they portrayed people they’ve never seen as exotic but they’re just normal people who live different from us.
نحن العرب والمسلمين لدينا الكثير في حضارتنا لنريه للعالم ولكن الإعلام الغربي يتعمد تشويه صورة الإسلام والعرب
sumaya ُ الإسلام دين والعربية قومية فقط معلومة
sumaya ُ
مش كلهم بس كتير منهم.. بس مثلا نيكي ميناج بتبين دائما انها بتحب المسلمين/المسلمات و هيك.. ف.. مو كلهم هيك بس بالإعلام.. كتير منهم اكيد
sumaya ُ كل زق
1:28 but Aladdin is literally going along with the Arabian story from centuries ago (One thousand and One Nights)??? I’m Arab and I don’t get where this dude is going with this.. smh
kim taeyeon it's true in islam it says that all of theese years i don't know exactly how many but i think like 3000 years ago is when it happened. All of theese years in islam it says that for Allah it has been only 1 day for him.
kim taeyeon
One thousand and one nights was written by a westren guy and it is a fiction stories , so expect shit
LOL same im Arab , this is the most irrelevant video i have ever seen. i guessing u like kpop aswell XD
Arabian Nights is a collection of Middle Eastern folk tales collected during the "Islamic golden age". So it's not written by a western guy.
Isn’t Aladdin a Chinese Muslim why did they all of a sudden have a Arab theme to it🤔🧐
8:00 I don't know what this footage has to do with Arabs, these are clearly showing Hindu wedding and people celebrating Holi.
LoL y'all are so sensitive.
Thank you, I appreciate the knowledge.
I am a Canadian born persian, I am NOT arab and I am NOT muslim but orientalism effects me just as much. remember that the western world sees us as all the same and it is up to us to bring awareness of everyone's humanity.
In the middle east non-muslims tend to be persecuted while in predominantly christian geographic areas muslims and hindus are persecuted. Violence and prejudice is not determined by actually identity but rather by who is simply the majority in power.
we should all be advocating for true secular governments and an actual separation of "church and state"
oh my gosh haha no :'), you should be aware enough to understand that the fact is in the eyes of the "white west majority" we are all just immigrants. and even me as someone with an Iranian background who is neither muslim nor arab is lumped in the the "arab world" isnt that enough proof that my statement holds true? please try to educate yourself xx
in many areas yes but the high levels of warfair (perpetuated by the west) is the cause of a lack of progress/ regression. what you say is silly. by your comment do you mean we should continue being prejudice? because if so then your simply pushing more isolated people into the hands of terrorist groups and causing more unrest in the middle east.
what I say holds true, we need to remind each other of our humanity
Persian here too
Jihad Al-Maliki why are middle eastern people so obsessed with having a religion? Most persians in the west aren't religious because of what happened in the past
Its funny. I think orientalism has a positive effect for me as a pakistani muslim in America. I have many friends from Muslim countries and my first instinct is that they are my brothers or sisters even after they tell me they are agnostic, zoroastrian, or chirstian. One my best friend is a christian Palestinian. I think the grouping of the "Muslim World" has brought me closer to all people from many regions. I think its the fact that my familiy lost a lot of Pakistani culture and I consider myself only American.
i'm muslim and i do not care. come on, there are real problems to complain about instead
Great stuff! Im glad you bring this up.
they always excuse it by saying we give your culture a representation. no honey, you're not, in fact, you don't even know our culture.
Aladdin's Lamp actually promotes Black Magic because it uses a Genie (Jin). This is a major sin in Islam.
RnBCutz Right.
Sir Dios Basado he's not complaining about the video. he's pointing out the fact that a fictional universe uses black magic, which muslims don't find particularly moral, as a representation for the very culture the movie is trying to portray.
lol
Exactly.
Compa Heart Not surprised because Disney is runned by Zionists, the fake Jews. In fact all of Hollywood and America is controlled through zionism
It’s weird that I live in the “Arab world “ and I am watching this ??
I have actually read Orientalism and I still don’t get one thing: what makes you so special?
Every culture exoticises, stereotypes and finds odd, strange or even scary OTHER cultures… seriously, in the Middle Ages people always thought monsters and strange people lived just beyond where they did.
And yes: to the west, the East IS EXOTIC. It’s not pejorative: “exotic” literally just means foreign, from far away, and implicitly not well known or mysterious. There is nothing wrong with finding another culture mysterious.
Wow. AJ, a company run in a dictatorship that literally does nothing but criticise and blame every culture but it’s own for every single problem. Amazing.
Where did he ever say that Muslims and Arabs are special?
Does pointing out an issue suddendly imply that the victim is special? Does pointing out an issue imply that nobody else suffers the same?
The fact that youre pointing out "well everybody does it, youre not special" just makes you look like your coping and trying to downplay the major bad effects that Muslims and Arabs suffered because of this.
Whether or not it happens to others aswell doesnt make Orientalism less bad and dehumanising.
Or would you tell the grieving family of a murder victim that they should stop crying because other people got murdered aswell?
@@eliotisconfusedaboutyourpa8105 You have missed the point entirely, congratulations, I wouldn't believe someone could do that accidentally, but you seem to.
My point is not that Edward Saïd claimed Muslims / Arabs are 'special' when in fact they are not...
My point was that this is a universal human behaviour. In fact it is an animal behaviour and very natural and normal. So Saïd contributes literally nothing in this book.
It is so funny seeing you accuse me of 'coping' and then compare what I said to 'telling the grieving family of a murder victim to stop crying' lolllll Truly, a masterpiece in hypocrisy and stupidity.
It is not equivalent to that in any serious way, obviously, but if I wanted to play your game and make a stupid analogy to victims, I would say it's more like telling a violent robber who has just been pickpocketed to stop crying, whining and lecturing everyone else on stealing.
You're simplifying what was talked about down to "exotic = bad" when that's not the case.
There's no problem with taking an interest in other cultures, in fact most people would encourage it. The problem is misrepresenting those cultures. When you misrepresent a culture to a large audience, it sows prejudice in the minds of many people and that can have real-world consequences.
Imagine if, say, people in China only saw media depicting Westerners as gluttonous, power-hungry, warmongers. The people who consume that media are/will become future leaders and those prejudices will influence their decision making. Would you be alright with over a billion people viewing you and your race as "less than human" simply because of how your race is represented in their media?
The worst example of Arab ethnicity erasure in the media/Hollywood was Naomi Scott (a white passing biracial Indian-white girl) was casted as Princess Jasmine. And that's not even mentioning the shit show that followed afterwards with Indians claiming that Princess Jasmine was an Indian character.
Ikr..🤦🤦
@@DiamanteDea Thank goodness someone else noticed too.
We are exotic and it's not an insult.
If you were that exotic you wouldn't be on your PC typing a comment in English
Khadija Mamouni you are a living proof just like Edward Said said you are embracing your stereotype that the others had put for you
yes it is as an arab i don't want to be called thats can i just be human a normal arab girl why do i have to be "exotic" like were some weird alien tribe or something
Akram Mohammed Exoticism isn't the same as underdeveloped lol.
yeah, kind of agree. I’ve got no problem being exotic. Better than being just anyone else, right?
I took a college course on Orientalism in America, and this video perfectly sums up so many of the Orientalist tropes that my class talked about all the time. We even discussed Cardi B's and Taylor Swift's music videos, Aladdin, Zero Dark Thirty, 300, Prince of Persia, and American Sniper.
As a Zoroastrian, thanks for calling our 300. Iranshar before Islam was the greatest civilization the world had ever seen, for they followed the truth, and they knew that men and women were equal, and islam ruined it in every way. Let us finish the job that Babak Khorradimin started!
@@TheMilitantMazdakite Of course. Zoroastrianism is a dead faith
@@baburkhanmansurkhanov266 No, Zoroastrianism is Immortal. You can't kill the truth.
@@TheMilitantMazdakite The truth is that most Zoroastrians converted to Islam
Being a Muslim Pakistani....this is unfortunately very accurate
"mOaZlImZz"
😂😂 why can't they say it muslims 😂
MOZZLEMA RAWANA
it’s literally so easy to pronounce “moo-sss-lim
Abdullah Odiebat huh😂
Ranya angels fr
So many thumbs down for truth telling.
Ticheri180 media wash they mind
truth telling? yeah right. those bastard are trying to make the muslim world look bad, as if media hasn't done enough.
WOKE AF
The truth exotic anything that differ from your own culture so every culture has self determinations of other cultures or race. Also what they see becomes their representation when they are not around that particular culture, race, ethnicity, or fate. Also appropriation is natural accurance in societies of multiculturalism. Not just Cardi B but Beyonce was criticize from appropriating Indian culture with her music video while in the same video a indian boy was break dancing. So yeah. Not Oriental is diagotary to certain region. You a lot Asian not around American more around British will use oriental as east Asian. Orient's was original use something from east something exotic and beautiful but a lot insecure people use it as way to down play the people and lift up his own people. For the part of this video where harp on how the culture depicts other culture the Romans did this a lot. This where this truth is that the Victor's writes the history. One because they do and usually down paly the other culture lift up their own. Common offense by many cultures including eastern. Through this primarily a western society and US and Western Europe are wealthy you more easily notice their flaws. Everyone should keep in my the grass isn't always greener on the otherside. So take deep look at all cultures
+Ticheri180 I'm sorry that you don't know what words mean.
It will take for us, Arabs and Muslims, to actually focus more on getting ourselves out of the neck-deep swamp we're in, than on how the other people only see our muddied bodies and forget about our beautiful faces.
We need to push for a better scientific research in the region, to revamp our educational systems, to build a new and solid economy, to re-establish a just and faire rule of law...etc.
Only when we'd have tremendously contributed once agaon to humanity with millions of articles and hundreds of textbooks and so on that the good image we'd give will trump over this stained representation.
Till then anyway, I'm not against condemning and trying to correct this misconception...
I liked this critical video and you mentioning Edward Said's work.But you were often saying "Arabs and Muslims" even though some examples shown were linked to the Indian subcontinent and Hindu traditions. This might be a bit picky of me but if you're talking about the exotic portrayal of "Arabs and Muslims" you should leave out these type of examples. Otherwise we could assume that you also are generalising.
Aladdin showcases the story before islam in Arab! At that time girls not wearing hijab or men wearing jewellery was common
We have biggest mall and biggest building and lambo police cars aren’t we exotic 😂😎
Maya Skars ان شاء الله بكرة راح يكون عندنا صناعات وتطور وترى دول الخليج توها في البدايات ما كملو ٨٠ سنة يكون بعلمك وبكرة لو شاء ربي راح نكون بلدان صناعية ان شاء الله والنفط هو رزق من الله واحنا نصدره لكن فنزويلا عندها نفط اكثر مننا ولكن ما تقدر تصدره بسبب الفساد فهاذي نقطة تحسب لنا لانه النفط بدون رجال تستخلصه وتصدره ما يطلع لحاله.. والله الرازق
@@jellyfishi_ why tf would we not be proud of being arabs? You're racist
Hi, welcome to JinHub. Probably he American and America land has been stolen 3 times and yeah America is a fake country
I am arab and believe me we dont care😂 Stop trying to be a hero over something so stupid. Stop being offended for people.
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I NEEDED YOU
COULDA USED THIS FOR MY ESSAY A COUPLE WEEKS AGO
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WateverWatever04 I discussed this in my essay also.
lol
Oh my, the least-effort-approach is strong with this one...
You would have failed your exam doe
bro who dislikes a video likes this. "no i think i will stick to stereotypes thank you"
Guys I'm arab and no we don't ride camels and we don't live in tents. We wear normal cloth and live in normal houses and have cars👍👍
Good Lord, I remember homeland. Such a terrible depiction.
Gimme Rice is it really inaccurate? Name another terrorist ideology/ethnicity?
Sway haha I know if I where daisy dukes and a gay pride shirt pretty much anywhere in the Middle East I will have rocks thrown at me until I’m dead. We are supposed to feel guilty about accurately portraying reality. And the “victims” of this portrayal wouldn’t hesitate to murder minority groups in their countries.
rose novel don't be disingenuous. I'm talking globally(or even just in western world) not nationally. What ideology terrorizes as much as muslims in the western world?
Eric ummmm.... which major religion allows gays??? Stop pretending asif it’s only Muslims. Christians Jews Indians all of these religions don’t support gays
Sway kkk
That's good can you make please history about north Africa video greeting from Algeria you are doing good and yourself!!☺
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I don't think that a lot of people tried to stereotype us because u know they think we're Arabs 😂
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Cause we are Arabs lmai
we're not arabs but Amazigh, still we have some arab people between us
People think we're the best arabs because our mentality is way better and open, and our islam is the best (not severe like in Saudi arabia), and that's how amazigh were since they came to earth more than 4000 years ago, ope and civilized
I do partially agree with the notions put forth in this video, and I'm a categorical egalitarian on social matters. What I object to is the negativity implied towards *fantasy* drawing on aesthetics from the Arab world. This is done with other cultures as well, including western culture (e.g. the Middle Ages), with these aesthetics appropriated into the fantasy as is seen fit.
Personally, I have never experienced the romanticized orientalist works I've encountered as negative or demeaning, including Aladdin in particular (note: The German intro doesn't have that line, and that's how I watched it as a child. They changed it). The opposite: It has always inspired a notion of awe and appreciation for the culture these sophisticated and majestic aesthetics were inspired by or directly drawn from.
There is also orientalism in music, which I heavily appreciate, as it's inspired by various maqams that heavily strike my particular musical taste (Hijaz/Kar, Nahawand, Kurd and Nawa Athar), and frequently implemented using the Ahava Rabba/Freygish, which might actually be my favourite tonal mode of all. As music has a very special influence on me, the soundscapes that often accompany romanticized orientalist multimedia only serve to strengthen the positive notions mentioned above.
Anno 1404 is also an example of a work that includes orientalism, but there is *nothing* negative in it: The Arab world is depicted as a peaceful, beautiful place with a very likable, yet stereotypical narrator representing it.
i suppose you wouldn’t mind then if someone approached you with only romanticised fantasies of germany that correlate very little with reality and make germans into simplistic caricatures of themselves. i’m sure you also wouldn’t mind if this hypothetical person then justified their perception by pointing to ‘generally positive images found in fantasy.’
to be less facetious, i think fantasy can be rather irritating when not separated from reality, and particularly so when people would rather preserve their idea of your culture in the abstract than engage with it as a material construction. it has less to do with positive or negative projections and more to do with the flattening and reduction of cultures to their most palatable elements.
One word Russians It's like an every movie and game It's Russians and Arabs
Exactly
I don't get it. I don't see what's wrong with camels and burkas. Orientalist paintings showed the diversity of the Arabs and the beauty of our culture?? WHAT'S NOT TO LOVE!??!
MajnouniWahad Burka is not a culture lol its women’s oppression.
@PickleNick most ignorant comment on this thread, bravo!
You know, none of this works if you grew up with a non-English version. The voices don't have the accent, the line I remember (was also changed but) was "If you steal they will pinch you in the arm, which hurts, but hey, it's nice here".
I thought exotic meant foreign...
اللَّهُمَّ حَبِّبْ إِلَينَا الإِيمَانَ وَزَيِّنْهُ فِي قُلُوبِنَا وَكَرِّه إِلَيْنَا الكُفْرَ وَالفُسُوقَ وَالعِصْيانَ ، وَاجْعَلْنَا مِنَ الرَّاشِدِينَ
First of all I'm Arab and it's not THAT off? We have deserts and camels and markets that are placed outside where we sell vegetables, etc. (We have supermarkets too of course). We have our dance, music, food and the list goes on. I recognize arabs across the North African and middle eastern regions are completely different but we are similar. I'm not offended. I love being Arab!
polly10022
Thats not what he is saying. The problems is arabs arent being portraid good enough. Its been one sided for too long and thats actually having very negative effects on arabs living abroad. Its time for change
polly10022 well not me I’m Lebanese 😂😂
polly10022 every thing is true except the desert
Sarah Kontar
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deja vu. Is that how u use it?
i remember being 8-9 years old and my siblings would stay up to watch American TV shows. on summer days, i stayed up with them sometimes as they would watch 24 and i swear if i hadn't heard them talk about how that show misinterprets Islam, i probably would've thought all terrorists irl were Arabs/Muslims.
over the course of my life, i've seen the Middle Eastern culture (which isn't exactly my culture, as i'm North African, but i can still relate to it) being oversimplified and having all these stereotypes kind of attributed to it, with seemingly no one really trying to change that. and it made me wonder: are these huge film producers and artists actually ignorant when it comes to this specific topic, or are we so marginalised that they reappropriate our culture on purpose?
to clarify, i don't think it's wrong for a tourist to try on traditional clothing and take a picture riding a camel (bc *i* wanna see a camel if i ever visit the desert, it's cool) but when you got Western people treating Hidjab and Mosques like an exotic concept and portraying these things in music videos, and there's a bunch of people commenting "aesthetic" or "mood".. like?? yea, i'm in the /mood/ to be a rich, uncivilised Arab today.
perhaps the worst case i've seen (in mainstream, at least) was a drama series produced by the Korean channel, MBC, last year. and i don't remember the name, but that shit was deadass provocative.
صارة B. Can you gave me the korean series name ?
Yes when you remember please tell 🤗
I think the drama title is "The Man Who Dies to Live"..
Jasmine isn't Muslim but she's arab
Which Jasmíne? The one in Aladin?
We arabs really find it funny when they think we're so rich.
This is what happens when one culture dominates the global media.
Particularly the culture pushed by the most powerful empire of our times.
And clearly, this issue affects many groups of people not just Arabs.
Look at how Chinese or Indians have been portrayed throughout western media.
Please don't mix Arabs and Muslims!, I am an Arab but I am an athiest.
Moath Dh and i am an arab and a christian
not denying the existence of non muslim arabs but the overwhelming majority of arabs are Muslim, and also this hate is primarily directed towards Muslim arabs so if you get offended that this video didn't mention athiest arabs you need to check yourself for your inherent hate towards Muslims that you do not want to associate with us. this video wasn't about religious diversity in the arab world it talks about arab and or Muslim people as a whole which explains why they included south Asia and Africa in the video
@@abdullahalbraiky5956 majority of arabs are muslims , majority of muslims ARE NOT arabs
Nobody :
American : *_"THIS IS AMERICA "_*
Very informative content, Thanks to AJ+ love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩💕
Shocked that they didn’t mention Lady Gaga’s song Aura (Burqa) (produced by ZEDD) which was meant to be the lead single of ARTPOP.
It had lines such as “Do you wanna see me naked lover? do you wanna peak underneath the cover? Do you wanna see the girl who lives behind the curtain, behind the Burqa?”
She pushes this outdated image of Muslims.
And although she ‘claims’ to be pushing a powerful image of Muslim women, she sings verses which show her ignorance towards the Islamic faith.
These outlandish images really do haunt us and make our society become labelled as barbaric fools who lust over females and use fear to maintain dominance.
The Arab and Islamic world is so much more better than what they make it seem in terms of identity and culture.
The Islamic world is so much better? Really? Where it's punishable by death to by gay? Or an atheist? Or to draw the wrong Prophet? People have a barbaric perception of Islam because the scripture and practices are inherently barbaric.
Exhibit a: Public beheadings
Exhibit b: Being thrown from a sky scraper is another form of execution
Exhibit c: theft is punishable by amputation
Exhibit d: a woman's opinion is worth half that of a man in Islam
Exhibit e: for a woman to report a rape under Sharia Law, they must have 4 male witnesses
I could go through to Z ten times over but I'm sure you get the point.
Harmless House blame muslims not islam. I used to believe in the sharia law, but then i started disagreeing with certain things, then more things and more till i came to the conclusion that the whole sharia law is stupid. Then i started reading more into it and I decided i should apostatize islam and read more about religions and atheism. I'm still not completely muslim or completely atheist, but after reading some books everything is much much clearer to me and islam is indeed viewed wrongly not only by non muslims, but Arab religious muslims as well.
If you want to learn more about how all hadiths are fabricated and fake i found a RUclips video that sums up everything. But idk if the subject doesn't really interests you (why would it even) then that's alright
j2 lover it doesn't really mean much to say the haddith is fabricated since all religious texts are undoubtedly fabrications. Speaking in metaphors (through Religion) has done unimaginable to the world and humanity. Logic and reason should be the universal religion.
Harmless House no I'm not saying that all religions aren't fabricated, I'm saying that if we're ever gonna judge islam, we should only judge the non fabricated (according to history and logic) part of it. U get me? Like just judge the actual (supposedly) word of god..
The same happens to Latin America . “Ándale ! Ándale !”
México is a desert, full of towns with decaying wooden building and bars, unpaved streets and plenty of steel brawls happening all over...
...oh American media...
Aaand for some reason everything is reddish looking
hermmendez omg same description from bunch of movie.
The worst part in Alladin is when Jasmine take a apple for the kids and the merchant says he's gonna cut off her hand because she's a thief like there's no justice system in medieval Arab world. You just know some guy at the Disney studio said I heard arabs cut thief's hands we should definitely put that in the movie .
they think our muslim sisters wear blankets every where
Pretty much any Latin American bruh, welcome to the club :D
I think it would have been good to show maybe an appropriate or acceptable form of media that involved Middle Eastern culture
Don't you get it? That doesn't exist... they will find fault with literally everything: This snake eats itself
Artbug it does. You're not reading enough books.
Some Person why don't you tell us? I must be dumb, even though I read one book per week at least. So tell us dumb people :) it's easy to say "educate yourself" or "you don't read enough books" and than not comment further. What a simple comment. ANY person could have wrote it. people who read books or those who don't, judt to appear smart, without any proof. So show us your solution. Prove that you are smart. Let's have a debate
What they mean is someone will always find something offensive. You could film an Arab celebration and people would still be offended about how they dress, how a certain one was ugly so "it must mean [insert company name] must think all of them are"... blah blah blah. It will never end because someone will always want attention and in this modern era you get attention by being a "victim" of something, no matter what it is.
I am just glad that you made the distinction between being Arab and being of Islamic faith! I hate that people think it is the same thing like you can't find Arabs of different faiths throughout the Middle East and North Africa!
Iran isn't muslim. It is Zoroastrian. Islam is an occupying force, which we will finally end!!!!
I feel the solution when portraying other cultures/backgrounds/sexualities etc. is to involve people from those communities in the processes of research and writing.
Everyone should read Edward Said's Orientalism!
It's ironic that the man who coined the term 'orientalism' could credibly be described as an orientalist himself as he was thoroughly westernised and operating from within the very heart of the western academic institutions guilty of spreading orientalism in the first place, embodying thereby the paradox of the man who seemingly strives to emulate western societies while deriding the paradigms that sustain them.
John Roberts well said. Just seems like another brand of victimization agenda.
Ichibot K9869 Can you elaborate on what the victimisation agenda is?
John Robers,
Incredible sentence structure lol what books do you read bro?
literally any portrayal of latinos, aztecs or maya
Daniel Naranjo
Sorry. Should we leave out the bits where the Aztecs waged "flower wars" to acquire sacrificial offerings for their gods? Are your feelings more important than history? More important than the victims of the Aztec Empire?
EnK Ryzov
dude. relax. you assume i'm annoyed with representations of Latinos, Aztecs, and Maya because of feelings or whatever, but that's not 100% true at all. for me, details like the existence of the flower wars and human sacrifice are important to take note of, but when we just look at that we fail to take in the full picture of what Aztec society was and in some ways still is. in general, things tend to be far more banal and or worse than we think, and this applies to entire cultures of people very often. take for example spartan culture at the time of the battle of thermopylae. movies like 300 portray them as badass warrior dudes with mofucking 64 packs, but the truth is that spartan men were soldiers to suppress an entire caste of slaves and they all had to buy their own armor to become soldiers. in all likelihood, some of them were also probably trying to fit beer bellies into that armor too. same goes for aztec society. they had flower wars and human sacrifices and all the rest of it, but they also liked to play a game that's really similar to our soccer where they can only hit the ball at specific joints in the body like elbows and knees. crops would be grown in the canals of tenochtitlan on these little rafts with dirt on them. et cetera.
Latinos and aztecs,mayans are two different things dumbass
Jay More it's literally an example. singular.
Daniel Naranjo A stop it! I'm still waiting for The Road to Eldorado 2.
Orientalist art is some amazing art and it is an important part of history and culture.
Thanks AJ+ to up this video...
I love Aladdin but I always bothered me that they took all the cultures of the Middle East and South Asia and mushed them together.
Actually, exotic just means foreign, so any material with a non-American setting produced by Hollywood or anywhere in the US is by definition exotic. That doesn't mean that they don't have the right to depict other cultures or that they cannot possibly do it right. Take Pixar's Coco for instance. Us Mexicans loved it because it was really accurate and respectful of our culture, social structures and traditions. But even if they had fallen in stereotypes, as they usually do, the public also has its share of guilt, because they are demanding such misrepresentations. After all, how many westerners would like to watch a movie exposing their active involvement in world conflicts? That is, showing them as the bad guys and the rest as the victims? It all breaks down to numbers (box office performance and ratings, that is).
EOM Guel
You must be like one of the few people here who actually understands the meaning of the word.
EOM Guel very well said
As a muslim i have no problem with alladdin
Its a classic and actually can be seen as putting some aspects of arabs/islam in positive light; it humanized the people and showed not all arabs are the same (they had good/bad arabs in it).
People like you are ruinning all forms of creativity
You don't like it, no problem
criticise it, fair enough
but don't be part of cancel culture
let people share their art for what they think it is; or else everything will continue to be boring on tv
I disagree. I love Aladdin because the music is phenomenal and I love Robin Williams but the depiction of "Arab culture" has really bugged me since I was a child, mainly because it's such a confused mess.
I am half Arab but I was born raised in Ireland. I was the only Arab person in my school, but there were a few Indians, and I remember lots of kids, myself included, being confused about which culture Aladdin was supposed to represent, my own Arab culture or the culture of India, which basically just led to Arabs and Indians being stereotyped as the same thing.
Also, that part where the stall owner threatens to cut off Jasmine's hand seems a bit racist me.
@@yoloswaggins7121 It's not that serious😀
@@el-sapo7460 Yeah of course, but that doesn't mean there is no conversation to be had.
As a massive Disney fan, Aladdin's cultural insensitivities are a glaring flaw in the movie. You can see they put much more work in these days with movies like Coco and Encanto.
This is an important discussion to have and is still relevant.
I do want to say , for the point of oversimplification, that Diplo from Major Lazr actually lived in India for many years before he blew up and Dj Snake often tours in India as it's one of his favourites. However in context I understand the reference.
The story is often more complex.
I am enjoying living in an Arab country and realise how much miseducation there is around it.