I like your demo video technique. Also, testing Kobalt is great - people don’t compare them enough. I gotta point out what looks like a misunderstanding about watts and watt hours. 100 watt hours means the battery can produce 1 watt for 100 hours. Or 100 watts for 1 hour. Or 1000 watts for 0.1 hours. Well, sort of. Not exactly. If you drain the battery really quickly, the capacity will go down. The watt hour (and amp hour) ratings are generally specifications for lower discharge rates. What those capacities don’t tell you is, how many maximum watts you can draw from the battery. None of the tool companies specify that. Battery cell manufacturers do specify that so if you open up a battery pack you can often figure out who makes the cells. One of the main reasons that higher capacity packs may have a higher maximum power is because they often increase capacity by adding cells in parallel. So a Kobalt 2Ah pack may have 6 cells that are 2Ah in series. A 4Ah one would have two 6 cell strings of 2Ah cells in parallel. That will double the maximum power output. I do agree with your stance on testing tools. Knowing how much torque I can get out of a tool if I put a $500, 25 lb (slight hyperbole) battery on it doesn’t help me if I am not going to use that battery. I bet some tools change their ranking on smaller vs larger batteries. More powerful with a huge battery, but less powerful with a smaller one. I wanna know how powerful they are with the battery that I am strong enough to actually carry.
Thank you for that valuable information. Thats why I don’t get into the technical side of cells and different packs on my videos to a degree because I’m still learning about them. You don’t know how much I appreciate the information you have provided here. I definitely need to do more research on the different cells in these battery packs. Thanks again and I appreciate you checking out the video. Glad you enjoyed it
Ok, I’ve been trying to educate myself the past couple days on different cells and how they work. I’ve been reaching out to different battery experts and I can’t believe I didn’t ask you first. You definitely seem to know what your talking about. 1st question I have is, let’s say I have a Milwaukee 18 volt 3ah high output battery pack containing 21700 high discharge cells rated at 54 watt hours. Under load in use is that pack actually operating at twice the watt hours since the cells are high discharge? I’m just trying to find someone who can help me better understand how it works. 2nd question would it be a fair comparison to run a 24 volt 5ah, 18650 cell, 120 watt hour pack Vs an 18 volt 6ah 21700 high discharge 108 watt hour pack both performing the same tasks?
@@rickyperkins232 really appreciate that Ricky. Yeah it’s a small channel right now but I’m getting some good feedback. I’m studying a bunch of tools and battery cells right now. If I’m going to test tools I damn sure better know everything I can about them. Thanks for the comment brother. You take care Ricky👊
@@IMPACT-NATION I’m not a pro, I’ve just been reading about this stuff for many years. I’m still learning, and also a lot of the details are hard to measure and depend on many different things. Watt hours is a measure of the total energy you get out of a battery. It says nothing about peak power you might get - peak power is measured in watts and is what determines how much power can be delivered to the motor. If you draw enough power from a cell so that its watt-hour capacity is reduced, what that means is that you’ll empty your battery after fewer screws / bolts / etc. Most battery capacity is specified by the manufacturer at “low” rates. That’s because it makes the numbers look better :) If driving a bolt takes one minute and uses 60 watts of power during that minute, that would be one watt hour. A 54 watt hour battery would let you drive 54 screws. If you had a faster driving speed, that used 240 watts and drove a screw in 15 seconds, that would also be one watt hour. However, you’d probably not get 54 watt hours out of your battery. It might be more like 40 watt hours, say. 40 screws. Here’s an example set of measurements for a Samsung 18650 cell: lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Samsung%20INR18650-35E%203500mAh%20%28Pink%29%202%20UK.html A couple important details: smaller tools will not go faster / be more powerful beyond a certain sized battery. Other tools are pretty much always constrained by battery max wattage. All of these batteries have a temperature sensor in them. Batteries warm up when you use them a lot. I don’t know which tools lower their max power when the battery gets warm, or which ones just say “too hot, not gonna work, wait till the battery has cooled off” The amount of impact that a smaller battery will have is a bit harder to predict. I suspect it’s usually fairly linear, if a battery is half the max wattage then the tool will have half the torque. But maximum power often makes things be less efficient so half battery wattage might actually be more than half torque. If you want to know what the best power / speed a tool is capable of, you simply have to use the most powerful battery. If you want to know if the tool would be equally capable with a lower max wattage (unrelated to watt hour…except by coincidence…) battery, there are basically two ways to do that. Figure out a way to measure the power usage of the tool (I built something to do that for Milwaukee M12) and see the max watts the tool drew. If the tool used 300 watts peak, and your batteries are 200 watt, 300 watt, 500 watt, 900 watt - well, the 200 watt battery will make the tool run slower but the others will be the same speed. If you don’t have a DC current meter setup, then you’ll have to try the batteries and time it. (also, I sort of lied there. If your tool wants 300 watts, and you have a 300 watt max power battery, I’d expect that battery to heat up more quickly. A 900 watt max output battery will probably stay cool much longer. So for your first few screws they’ll be the same, but then it’ll slow down.) (Oh, also, what I said about more power reducing capacity? If you have a 900 watt max power battery, with say 100 watt hour capacity, and a 300 watt max battery with a 20 watt hour capacity: if you’re drawing 300 watts, the bigger battery will almost certainly get you the full 300 watt hours. But the 20 watt hour battery will be less efficient due to your huge current draw, so it’ll be less than 20 watt hours) I hope this makes sense. Feel free to ask any questions you’d like and I will do my best. I’d suggest maybe even pulling out a spreadsheet or a napkin and doing some math to make sure you understand watts and watt hours and amps and amp hours. It’s fun! (No, really, I find it fun to do this…I’m not normal)
It most certainly is bro. I love it. I’m going to put it up against some Dewalt impacts in the coming videos. Thanks for checking out the video man. Take care brother 👊
They usually handicap the Ridgid. That impact is the basic model Ridgid. The flagships have the 3 LEDs front and center not at the base. Whether it be the gen 5, octane, stealth force or what ever. They often use the base model and make it seem like they are using the best model
Great vid! They're all excellent tools. Milwaukee manages to squeeze a crazy amount of power out of tools that are almost as small as competitors' "compact" versions.
The Milwaukee being old as it is, still has me scratching my head in amazement sometimes. I threw the 12.0 HO pack on it once and WOW! just like the 840 with the Flexvolt 15ah in your video 👊
As others commented, Ridgid deals make it a good choice for many. Last week bought a new kit with hammer drill, impact driver, 2ah max and 4ah max bats for $129- $15 HD CC coupon. The size and power of all those tools are impressive. And the price point given the work they perform makes this a great time for tool owners.
I was telling my buddy the other day how much I love that Ridgid impact. Has more than enough power to do anything I need it to do at work. Very nice in the hand, build quality is awesome. Totally agree with you👊
Thanks brother. Same to you Man. Awesome content on your channel. Congratulations on the birth of your child. Your a great Father and have a beautiful family. All the best my friend. Take care brother
It’s as close as I can get it. A lot of different variables are involved in testing tools. It will never truly be 100% accurate or equal but it’s cool to watch. Especially if your planning on purchasing one of course you want to see how it performs against the competition. Thanks man
Rigid is 80$ right now with 4ah battery and charger both battery and impact have lifetime guarantee.Im a new construction plumber and Milwaukee was my go to, but after about 5 years they break down just after warranty expires. So I swapped to rigid and they get the job done nicely I might add, can't beat the lifetime guarantee.
I hear you brother. The Ridgid hammer drill and impact driver are the only Ridgid tools I have so far, but I intend to get more. My buddy Robert @Tools with Soalz turned me on to Ridgid. I have no complaints. It all comes down to preference brother. Everyone likes a certain type and style of hammer, tape measure, speed square, hand tools, you name it. For me Milwaukee is my favorite but as you can see I’m not biased at all towards a particular brand. I own several and like them all. Thanks for the comment brother.
I just bought a Ridgid 4 piece combo kit. It came with the impact driver, hammer drill, recip saw, and oscillating tool with 2 batteries. I also got 2 free tools. I picked a 2 pack of 4.0 batteries and the circular saw. All for $399. A big selling point for me was the LSA. I went to Lowes today and saw the Flex tools. They seemed solid and they are offering a lifetime warranty too. Kinda tempted by Flex they just seem bulky.
If you want my honest opinion, and I regret not getting that Ridgid deal myself, those Ridgid tools will do the same job the flex will, just a little slower. Everyone sees the flex hammer drill driving huge lags into 4x4s and the Ridgid fails to drive it in as far. Good for flex, but that’s not realistic when your on the job. If your driving lags, depending on size, your going with an impact driver or wrench. You basically got a whole set- up of tools with plenty of batteries for $399!! See what you’ll get for $399 from flex🤣 I’m not bashing them at all I love flex but it has to make sense. Just because something cost 3x the price doesn’t mean that it’s 3x better for the job. Ask Ed the old tech guy what he uses👊 Take care Manny
You used the wrong battery 😏 I really like how you split up the screen to show all the tools, and the music level was good. Appreciate the real talk @3:22, we are all in that boat. I agree, all those tools have their uses to fit the owners' needs.
Thanks David. Really appreciate that man. Your channel is one of the first tool channels I came across here on RUclips. You definitely had a hand in inspiring me to start my channel bro. Glad you liked it👊
I'm loving the Ridgid. Pretty much keeping up with the 24 volt and only having a 4 amp hour battery with only 72 watt hours. The kobalt had 96 watt hours and 24 volts. My Ridgid has done everything I've asked it to do the last year and a month. Plus it's cheap and LSA.
I’m loving the Ridgid more and more everyday. I take it to work all the time. Appreciate the comment Mike. Thanks for checking out the video my brother 🤣
That Ridgid is the best value you can get atm. I got a Reconditioned one on sale with the brushless hammer drill, batteries and charger for $110 last month. It's got way more power than the subcompact tools I also have
Thanks Erik, I’m sure you can tell some other great tool channels have had some influence on my style. Great community to be a part of. Especially fortunate to have viewers like yourself supporting us. Thanks a million bro👊
Milwaukee F.T.W the Flex is no slouch either. Great Video I just gave you a big thumbs up and subbed. I have a channel too and am based in Northern Ireland we don't have Flex over here I wish we had. I watch alot of US tool Vids. You guys are ahead of us by about 2 or 3 years and have lots of cool stuff we don't. Thanks
You have a new subscriber as well my friend. Still hard to believe after all this time the Gen 3 Milwaukee is the top contender. Yes the Flex is more for just brute strength. It’s so strong it almost eliminates the need for a stubby or low torque impact wrench, because it can take a beating. Thank you for the kind words man. I really appreciate it. You take care brother
I bought the kobalt 5 piece xtr for 320 out the door. Circle saw, rep saw, hammer drill, impact driver, led light with 2.5ah and 4ah batter charger with rolling tool storage.
That’s an unbelievably good value that I hope nobody would pass up. I think Kobalt has made a good mark in the industry going from previous models then straight to the XTR line. Thanks for checking out the video. Take care
Absolutely. Even if the Flex is faster and stronger, which it’s neck and neck but the Gen 3 always seems to hold that power and torque longer and that’s where it shines. It’s an awesome tool and my personal favorite. Thanks for checking out the video. Much appreciated
Awesome video brother I went back and watched every second of ever video you made and I have to say you are brilliant Awesome editing and I can't agree with you more batteries play a major factor in how much amps watts volts can put out whoever says tools don't need bigger batteries to put out are dead ass wrong... I'm with you 100% and omg that rebar vid 😍 that's amazing..and how you cut those bricks 🤔 wow!!!!!! I didn't even know about that blade that could have helped me so many times ive learned a few things thank you for taking your time sharing your knowledge God bless you and yours bro
😎✊. My man B! Always coming through with the love and positivity. Thank you man. Thank you for all the kind words, support, motivating comments. I’m still pretty green when it comes to the battery technology but I studied it hard for a couple weeks straight to keep my game up. Yes sir a certain battery will definitely improve a tools performance. I don’t see how people can still deny that. I usually cut cinder block or brick with a masonry recip blade, masonry grinding wheel, and sometimes a cut off saw. I really enjoy making the impact driver versus videos. Those are probably my favorite as of right now. Gotta get back to this concrete brother. Just wanted to express my gratitude to you for that heartfelt comment B. Thank you buddy 💯💯💯👊✊❤️🙌
Thanks buddy. Much appreciated. Means a lot coming from you. Your style of the split screen editing definitely rubbed off and appealed to me most. I hope I did it justice. Been a huge fan of yours for quite a while man.
I tell you what, the Ridgid might have looked slow, but as you know it was running against the top dogs in the game. It’s very very smooth. It’s almost as if the vibration from the impacting is non existent compared to the rest. Quieter too. I love it man. Want to get the 6ah and run it against the Gen 3 and the dcf 840 and see how it does. Definitely worth the 99$ for the kit when on sale at HD
Fuck the haters. This is one of the most equal side by side comparisons I’ve seen out of all of these big channnels, haha. You enjoy what you do. Can’t be that. Keep it up bro. You have my subscription. P.S. Team Milwaukee baby!!
My man! Your support and inspiring words are the reason I keep doing it as well 👊. And Fuck yesssss Milwaukee brother. That’s what I’m talking about💯❤️👊
Use the stacked lithium battery on the FLEX it would have smoked all of them. The LIFETIME warranty makes FLEX a no brainer. My biggest beef with FLEX is they don’t have specialty tools yet like Milwaukee does, I love my M18 force logic press tool, my hole hawg and M18 drain snake, that is where Milwaukee dominates but they also have been in the game longer and stronger than most.
That’s a great comment! Yeah it’s crazy the amount of current you can draw from those pouch cells. Almost unreal. I’m planning on getting the 3.5 and the 6 ah stacked lithium packs for the flex and compare them to the Milwaukee HO and the Powerstack and Flexvolt here real soon. I 100% agree with everything you said man. Appreciate you taking the time to check out the video. Take care my friend
Running kbolt tools I win with the price , I use all of it , love the Brad nailer , I got a 8 tool kit for 300 bucks for a Christmas special. Use em hard everyday
Not gonna lie, for the battery that comes with the Flex to have comparable power to the High Output that you have to buy from Milwaukee I’m impressed. The basic kit from Flex is very affordable and you get bang performance for every dollar without having to upgrade… Flex 💪
I’m telling you man, that 2.5 on the flex is no joke. Especially for just having 18650 cells. It’ll beat the Milwaukee at first but once the battery starts draining after a few big lags then the power will drop. The Milwaukee with the better cells and a little more capacity with the 3.0 can sustain it’s power a lot longer. Appreciate you stopping through Athannael. Take care brother 👊
Hey man that Ridgid Did very well. I mean we’re talking a second or 10ths of a second. The Ridgid is just as powerful. The impact action I have to say is the smoothest on the Ridgid for sure.
If it’s Milwaukee you want and they are just standard lugs 120 ft lbs roughly. The m18 2854-20 is the compact 3/8 impact wrench. Amazon has them usually for 150$ to 200$. But for the same price right now you can get the m18 mid torque impact wrench the 2962-20 1/2 inch for 192$ on Amazon. That thing is way more powerful for the same price. Check them both out and see which ones best for him. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Take care
Appreciate the fuck out of that Chad. Hey buddy I’m not perfect and never claimed to know it all🤣. I know with editing you can trick or deceive people but that’s not my gig. I am honest and thanks for the support and kind words brother. Different voltage’s and bigger capacity batteries… it’s almost impossible to make things 100% fair. Just do the best we can. You take care my friend ✊💯
A lot of people are fake showing showing the ridgid or the Bauer winning over the Milwaukee and flex that s*** is unreal people believe it because they don't know or they'll put a small battery in one and a big ass battery in the other one people are a Liars man just cool to see you being honest about s*** my favorite is the metabo Hpt I like the 18 volt small lightweight triple hammer it stop will you need it to stop at I got the Milwaukee Gen 3 love it a lot of power and the metabo and Milwaukee the Chuck don't wobble like the DeWalt and ridgid wobbles bad I had 886 it broke never went back I like the 885 better I had the Gen 4 ridgid if you it was big and heavy somebody took it but never had the flex yet I know it's heavy like a mid-tork that turns me off see you next video take it easy
Thanks man. I worked hard on this video. Took forever to edit it this way. Comments like these keep me motivated to do better and better. Take care Dave
It’s weird because I live in the UK and over here you’ll only really see Makita and DeWalt. I know the Americans love DeWalt but you don’t see Makita that much and I don’t know why.
I ask myself that question all the time man. I only own 2 MAKITA impact drivers. They are no means the fastest or the most powerful but that’s okay. I don’t need a 3600 rpm and 4300 ipm rated impact to drive 3 inch GRKs or 2-3/4 tapcons you know. The XDT13 I own would complete ever task that I need to get done on my job sites. I love MAKITA. They make quality tools. Very good quality. Very ergonomic unless you have very large hands🤣. The XGT line looks awesome. A little pricey in the states right now but not by much.
@@IMPACT-NATION You’re absolutely right man! Like if you have to put in 100 super thick lag bolts all day everyday, then getting a Milwaukee impact makes sense to me because the speed efficiencies would add up, but that’s likely not a frequent occurrence for many or even most. Even the DeWalt, I held in my hand the other day I couldn’t believe people use this over the Makita! What would be important for anyone and everyone regardless of your application are things like size, weight, how it feels in the hand, comfort, reliability, longevity, and honestly I haven’t found one that ticks those boxes more comfortably than Makita. However, even with that in mind, if I was American, maybe I would buy Milwaukee or DeWalt just because they’re American. 🤷🏽♂️
Who cares if one is 1 to 2 seconds faster lol. What most of us would like to see is disassembly of each and compair how each is built and the materials used. . I would rather have the one thats going to give me more years of use even if its 1 to 2 seconds slower!
Exactly man. I got caught up in the hype I’ll admit, about who has the fastest tool. It basically comes down to 10ths of a second. Or a few seconds at most. I’m with you man if it’s built to last it’s a winner. That’s why I bought into Flex. Strong fuckin tools bro and powerful. Might be a tad heavier than most but it’s cool with me. To each their own when it comes to brands. I love Milwaukee Dewalt MAKITA etc etc. All around as a company, warranties, customer service and products. Flex is where it’s at for me
I got that Ridgid Reconditioned combo kit(hammer drill, 2 batteries, impact driver and charger) on Direct Tools for $104.99 with a 1yr warranty. Can't beat that. I've got both the subcompact and the Max Output tools, the upgrade is well worth it
Can’t argue with that. Flex has had some pretty outrageous claims as far as tool production and power ratings. I believe they will deliver on their promises just not in the time frame they said. I love the Gen 3 and the XTR, but the flex is growing on me. Thanks for checking out the video brother. Take care 👊
I felt the weight at first too man. Using it as often as I do I’ve adjusted to weight. It’s funny when I go to pick up the Milwaukee or the Dewalt it feels like literally nothing cause I’m so use to the Flex.
I like your demo video technique. Also, testing Kobalt is great - people don’t compare them enough.
I gotta point out what looks like a misunderstanding about watts and watt hours.
100 watt hours means the battery can produce 1 watt for 100 hours. Or 100 watts for 1 hour. Or 1000 watts for 0.1 hours.
Well, sort of. Not exactly. If you drain the battery really quickly, the capacity will go down. The watt hour (and amp hour) ratings are generally specifications for lower discharge rates.
What those capacities don’t tell you is, how many maximum watts you can draw from the battery. None of the tool companies specify that. Battery cell manufacturers do specify that so if you open up a battery pack you can often figure out who makes the cells.
One of the main reasons that higher capacity packs may have a higher maximum power is because they often increase capacity by adding cells in parallel. So a Kobalt 2Ah pack may have 6 cells that are 2Ah in series. A 4Ah one would have two 6 cell strings of 2Ah cells in parallel. That will double the maximum power output.
I do agree with your stance on testing tools. Knowing how much torque I can get out of a tool if I put a $500, 25 lb (slight hyperbole) battery on it doesn’t help me if I am not going to use that battery. I bet some tools change their ranking on smaller vs larger batteries. More powerful with a huge battery, but less powerful with a smaller one. I wanna know how powerful they are with the battery that I am strong enough to actually carry.
Thank you for that valuable information. Thats why I don’t get into the technical side of cells and different packs on my videos to a degree because I’m still learning about them. You don’t know how much I appreciate the information you have provided here. I definitely need to do more research on the different cells in these battery packs. Thanks again and I appreciate you checking out the video. Glad you enjoyed it
Ok, I’ve been trying to educate myself the past couple days on different cells and how they work. I’ve been reaching out to different battery experts and I can’t believe I didn’t ask you first. You definitely seem to know what your talking about. 1st question I have is, let’s say I have a Milwaukee 18 volt 3ah high output battery pack containing 21700 high discharge cells rated at 54 watt hours. Under load in use is that pack actually operating at twice the watt hours since the cells are high discharge? I’m just trying to find someone who can help me better understand how it works.
2nd question would it be a fair comparison to run a 24 volt 5ah, 18650 cell, 120 watt hour pack Vs an 18 volt 6ah 21700 high discharge 108 watt hour pack both performing the same tasks?
@@IMPACT-NATION I didn't know that you have a channel bro, good video.
@@rickyperkins232 really appreciate that Ricky. Yeah it’s a small channel right now but I’m getting some good feedback. I’m studying a bunch of tools and battery cells right now. If I’m going to test tools I damn sure better know everything I can about them. Thanks for the comment brother. You take care Ricky👊
@@IMPACT-NATION I’m not a pro, I’ve just been reading about this stuff for many years. I’m still learning, and also a lot of the details are hard to measure and depend on many different things.
Watt hours is a measure of the total energy you get out of a battery. It says nothing about peak power you might get - peak power is measured in watts and is what determines how much power can be delivered to the motor.
If you draw enough power from a cell so that its watt-hour capacity is reduced, what that means is that you’ll empty your battery after fewer screws / bolts / etc.
Most battery capacity is specified by the manufacturer at “low” rates. That’s because it makes the numbers look better :)
If driving a bolt takes one minute and uses 60 watts of power during that minute, that would be one watt hour. A 54 watt hour battery would let you drive 54 screws.
If you had a faster driving speed, that used 240 watts and drove a screw in 15 seconds, that would also be one watt hour. However, you’d probably not get 54 watt hours out of your battery. It might be more like 40 watt hours, say. 40 screws.
Here’s an example set of measurements for a Samsung 18650 cell:
lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Samsung%20INR18650-35E%203500mAh%20%28Pink%29%202%20UK.html
A couple important details: smaller tools will not go faster / be more powerful beyond a certain sized battery. Other tools are pretty much always constrained by battery max wattage.
All of these batteries have a temperature sensor in them. Batteries warm up when you use them a lot. I don’t know which tools lower their max power when the battery gets warm, or which ones just say “too hot, not gonna work, wait till the battery has cooled off”
The amount of impact that a smaller battery will have is a bit harder to predict. I suspect it’s usually fairly linear, if a battery is half the max wattage then the tool will have half the torque. But maximum power often makes things be less efficient so half battery wattage might actually be more than half torque.
If you want to know what the best power / speed a tool is capable of, you simply have to use the most powerful battery. If you want to know if the tool would be equally capable with a lower max wattage (unrelated to watt hour…except by coincidence…) battery, there are basically two ways to do that. Figure out a way to measure the power usage of the tool (I built something to do that for Milwaukee M12) and see the max watts the tool drew. If the tool used 300 watts peak, and your batteries are 200 watt, 300 watt, 500 watt, 900 watt - well, the 200 watt battery will make the tool run slower but the others will be the same speed. If you don’t have a DC current meter setup, then you’ll have to try the batteries and time it.
(also, I sort of lied there. If your tool wants 300 watts, and you have a 300 watt max power battery, I’d expect that battery to heat up more quickly. A 900 watt max output battery will probably stay cool much longer. So for your first few screws they’ll be the same, but then it’ll slow down.)
(Oh, also, what I said about more power reducing capacity? If you have a 900 watt max power battery, with say 100 watt hour capacity, and a 300 watt max battery with a 20 watt hour capacity: if you’re drawing 300 watts, the bigger battery will almost certainly get you the full 300 watt hours. But the 20 watt hour battery will be less efficient due to your huge current draw, so it’ll be less than 20 watt hours)
I hope this makes sense. Feel free to ask any questions you’d like and I will do my best. I’d suggest maybe even pulling out a spreadsheet or a napkin and doing some math to make sure you understand watts and watt hours and amps and amp hours. It’s fun! (No, really, I find it fun to do this…I’m not normal)
That Ridgid impact is so underated! Great balance and huge improvement from previous gens. Got it for $60 too!
It most certainly is bro. I love it. I’m going to put it up against some Dewalt impacts in the coming videos. Thanks for checking out the video man. Take care brother 👊
They usually handicap the Ridgid. That impact is the basic model Ridgid. The flagships have the 3 LEDs front and center not at the base. Whether it be the gen 5, octane, stealth force or what ever. They often use the base model and make it seem like they are using the best model
Great vid! They're all excellent tools. Milwaukee manages to squeeze a crazy amount of power out of tools that are almost as small as competitors' "compact" versions.
The Milwaukee being old as it is, still has me scratching my head in amazement sometimes. I threw the 12.0 HO pack on it once and WOW! just like the 840 with the Flexvolt 15ah in your video 👊
I’m glad you enjoyed it Jim. Thanks for checking it out. All the best to you and the family🙏
As others commented, Ridgid deals make it a good choice for many. Last week bought a new kit with hammer drill, impact driver, 2ah max and 4ah max bats for $129- $15 HD CC coupon. The size and power of all those tools are impressive. And the price point given the work they perform makes this a great time for tool owners.
I was telling my buddy the other day how much I love that Ridgid impact. Has more than enough power to do anything I need it to do at work. Very nice in the hand, build quality is awesome. Totally agree with you👊
Appreciate the comparisons as they are. Keep up the good work 🙂✌️✌️
Thanks brother. Same to you Man. Awesome content on your channel. Congratulations on the birth of your child. Your a great Father and have a beautiful family. All the best my friend. Take care brother
I really liked the side by side view and your consistent pressure. I'd consider it an equal comparison for sure. Great talk too man.
It’s as close as I can get it. A lot of different variables are involved in testing tools. It will never truly be 100% accurate or equal but it’s cool to watch. Especially if your planning on purchasing one of course you want to see how it performs against the competition. Thanks man
Rigid is 80$ right now with 4ah battery and charger both battery and impact have lifetime guarantee.Im a new construction plumber and Milwaukee was my go to, but after about 5 years they break down just after warranty expires. So I swapped to rigid and they get the job done nicely I might add, can't beat the lifetime guarantee.
I hear you brother. The Ridgid hammer drill and impact driver are the only Ridgid tools I have so far, but I intend to get more. My buddy Robert @Tools with Soalz turned me on to Ridgid. I have no complaints. It all comes down to preference brother. Everyone likes a certain type and style of hammer, tape measure, speed square, hand tools, you name it. For me Milwaukee is my favorite but as you can see I’m not biased at all towards a particular brand. I own several and like them all. Thanks for the comment brother.
I just bought a Ridgid 4 piece combo kit. It came with the impact driver, hammer drill, recip saw, and oscillating tool with 2 batteries. I also got 2 free tools. I picked a 2 pack of 4.0 batteries and the circular saw. All for $399. A big selling point for me was the LSA. I went to Lowes today and saw the Flex tools. They seemed solid and they are offering a lifetime warranty too. Kinda tempted by Flex they just seem bulky.
If you want my honest opinion, and I regret not getting that Ridgid deal myself, those Ridgid tools will do the same job the flex will, just a little slower. Everyone sees the flex hammer drill driving huge lags into 4x4s and the Ridgid fails to drive it in as far. Good for flex, but that’s not realistic when your on the job. If your driving lags, depending on size, your going with an impact driver or wrench. You basically got a whole set- up of tools with plenty of batteries for $399!! See what you’ll get for $399 from flex🤣 I’m not bashing them at all I love flex but it has to make sense. Just because something cost 3x the price doesn’t mean that it’s 3x better for the job. Ask Ed the old tech guy what he uses👊 Take care Manny
You used the wrong battery 😏
I really like how you split up the screen to show all the tools, and the music level was good. Appreciate the real talk @3:22, we are all in that boat. I agree, all those tools have their uses to fit the owners' needs.
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Thanks for the kind words Jonathan. Appreciate it man
Yeah, the real talk was the crème de la crème. My favorite part of the vid.
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Great comparison video.
Thanks David. Really appreciate that man. Your channel is one of the first tool channels I came across here on RUclips. You definitely had a hand in inspiring me to start my channel bro. Glad you liked it👊
I'm loving the Ridgid. Pretty much keeping up with the 24 volt and only having a 4 amp hour battery with only 72 watt hours. The kobalt had 96 watt hours and 24 volts. My Ridgid has done everything I've asked it to do the last year and a month. Plus it's cheap and LSA.
I’m loving the Ridgid more and more everyday. I take it to work all the time. Appreciate the comment Mike. Thanks for checking out the video my brother 🤣
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Subbed by the way, like your content!!
@@4673962 thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate you my brother
That Ridgid is the best value you can get atm. I got a Reconditioned one on sale with the brushless hammer drill, batteries and charger for $110 last month.
It's got way more power than the subcompact tools I also have
Yeah, like others have said, great video technique. I love the side by side views.
Thanks Erik, I’m sure you can tell some other great tool channels have had some influence on my style. Great community to be a part of. Especially fortunate to have viewers like yourself supporting us. Thanks a million bro👊
Milwaukee F.T.W the Flex is no slouch either. Great Video I just gave you a big thumbs up and subbed. I have a channel too and am based in Northern Ireland we don't have Flex over here I wish we had. I watch alot of US tool Vids. You guys are ahead of us by about 2 or 3 years and have lots of cool stuff we don't. Thanks
You have a new subscriber as well my friend. Still hard to believe after all this time the Gen 3 Milwaukee is the top contender. Yes the Flex is more for just brute strength. It’s so strong it almost eliminates the need for a stubby or low torque impact wrench, because it can take a beating. Thank you for the kind words man. I really appreciate it. You take care brother
@@IMPACT-NATION thanks good luck with your channel
I bought the kobalt 5 piece xtr for 320 out the door. Circle saw, rep saw, hammer drill, impact driver, led light with 2.5ah and 4ah batter charger with rolling tool storage.
That’s an unbelievably good value that I hope nobody would pass up. I think Kobalt has made a good mark in the industry going from previous models then straight to the XTR line. Thanks for checking out the video. Take care
Milwaukee is super impressive as usual, considering it’s age too!
Absolutely. Even if the Flex is faster and stronger, which it’s neck and neck but the Gen 3 always seems to hold that power and torque longer and that’s where it shines. It’s an awesome tool and my personal favorite. Thanks for checking out the video. Much appreciated
Awesome video brother I went back and watched every second of ever video you made and I have to say you are brilliant Awesome editing and I can't agree with you more batteries play a major factor in how much amps watts volts can put out whoever says tools don't need bigger batteries to put out are dead ass wrong... I'm with you 100% and omg that rebar vid 😍 that's amazing..and how you cut those bricks 🤔 wow!!!!!! I didn't even know about that blade that could have helped me so many times ive learned a few things thank you for taking your time sharing your knowledge God bless you and yours bro
😎✊. My man B! Always coming through with the love and positivity. Thank you man. Thank you for all the kind words, support, motivating comments. I’m still pretty green when it comes to the battery technology but I studied it hard for a couple weeks straight to keep my game up. Yes sir a certain battery will definitely improve a tools performance. I don’t see how people can still deny that. I usually cut cinder block or brick with a masonry recip blade, masonry grinding wheel, and sometimes a cut off saw. I really enjoy making the impact driver versus videos. Those are probably my favorite as of right now. Gotta get back to this concrete brother. Just wanted to express my gratitude to you for that heartfelt comment B. Thank you buddy 💯💯💯👊✊❤️🙌
The Wh approach is the right way buddy. It can't get more accurate than that unless you crack those batteries open. Keep it up
PS. Liked and suscribed
Hey thanks man. I really appreciate that. I got plenty more awesome videos planned so stay tuned brother. Take care my friend 👊
Nice video man! Great work!
Thanks man. Appreciate you checking it out. You weren’t lying about the Flex! BEASTMODE! 👊
Nice video man !! How do you like that RIdgid I was thinking about getting it?
Thanks buddy. Much appreciated. Means a lot coming from you. Your style of the split screen editing definitely rubbed off and appealed to me most. I hope I did it justice. Been a huge fan of yours for quite a while man.
I tell you what, the Ridgid might have looked slow, but as you know it was running against the top dogs in the game. It’s very very smooth. It’s almost as if the vibration from the impacting is non existent compared to the rest. Quieter too. I love it man. Want to get the 6ah and run it against the Gen 3 and the dcf 840 and see how it does. Definitely worth the 99$ for the kit when on sale at HD
Fuck the haters. This is one of the most equal side by side comparisons I’ve seen out of all of these big channnels, haha. You enjoy what you do. Can’t be that. Keep it up bro. You have my subscription.
P.S. Team Milwaukee baby!!
My man! Your support and inspiring words are the reason I keep doing it as well 👊. And Fuck yesssss Milwaukee brother. That’s what I’m talking about💯❤️👊
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Use the stacked lithium battery on the FLEX it would have smoked all of them.
The LIFETIME warranty makes FLEX a no brainer. My biggest beef with FLEX is they don’t have specialty tools yet like Milwaukee does, I love my M18 force logic press tool, my hole hawg and M18 drain snake, that is where Milwaukee dominates but they also have been in the game longer and stronger than most.
That’s a great comment! Yeah it’s crazy the amount of current you can draw from those pouch cells. Almost unreal. I’m planning on getting the 3.5 and the 6 ah stacked lithium packs for the flex and compare them to the Milwaukee HO and the Powerstack and Flexvolt here real soon. I 100% agree with everything you said man. Appreciate you taking the time to check out the video. Take care my friend
Running kbolt tools I win with the price , I use all of it , love the Brad nailer , I got a 8 tool kit for 300 bucks for a Christmas special. Use em hard everyday
I love Kobalt tools brother. Great value for sure. The XTR stuff was awesome too
Great video keep them coming
👊 I certainly will my man! Thanks for the support
Not gonna lie, for the battery that comes with the Flex to have comparable power to the High Output that you have to buy from Milwaukee I’m impressed. The basic kit from Flex is very affordable and you get bang performance for every dollar without having to upgrade… Flex 💪
I’m telling you man, that 2.5 on the flex is no joke. Especially for just having 18650 cells. It’ll beat the Milwaukee at first but once the battery starts draining after a few big lags then the power will drop. The Milwaukee with the better cells and a little more capacity with the 3.0 can sustain it’s power a lot longer. Appreciate you stopping through Athannael. Take care brother 👊
@@IMPACT-NATION yeah, you ain’t lying. I noticed that at work too Lmbo
I like RIDGID, personally… but I’ll give credit to the new guy, FLEX. Definitely managed to top on the charts for most of their tools
Hey man that Ridgid Did very well. I mean we’re talking a second or 10ths of a second. The Ridgid is just as powerful. The impact action I have to say is the smoothest on the Ridgid for sure.
Which milkwaukee wrench or driver is best for removal of lugs I need to get on for Father’s Day
If it’s Milwaukee you want and they are just standard lugs 120 ft lbs roughly. The m18 2854-20 is the compact 3/8 impact wrench. Amazon has them usually for 150$ to 200$. But for the same price right now you can get the m18 mid torque impact wrench the 2962-20 1/2 inch for 192$ on Amazon. That thing is way more powerful for the same price. Check them both out and see which ones best for him. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Take care
Thank you
That was the closest you going to get with the batteries that was a great video thank you for being honest
Appreciate the fuck out of that Chad. Hey buddy I’m not perfect and never claimed to know it all🤣. I know with editing you can trick or deceive people but that’s not my gig. I am honest and thanks for the support and kind words brother. Different voltage’s and bigger capacity batteries… it’s almost impossible to make things 100% fair. Just do the best we can. You take care my friend ✊💯
A lot of people are fake showing showing the ridgid or the Bauer winning over the Milwaukee and flex that s*** is unreal people believe it because they don't know or they'll put a small battery in one and a big ass battery in the other one people are a Liars man just cool to see you being honest about s*** my favorite is the metabo Hpt I like the 18 volt small lightweight triple hammer it stop will you need it to stop at I got the Milwaukee Gen 3 love it a lot of power and the metabo and Milwaukee the Chuck don't wobble like the DeWalt and ridgid wobbles bad I had 886 it broke never went back I like the 885 better I had the Gen 4 ridgid if you it was big and heavy somebody took it but never had the flex yet I know it's heavy like a mid-tork that turns me off see you next video take it easy
Great video
Thanks man. I worked hard on this video. Took forever to edit it this way. Comments like these keep me motivated to do better and better. Take care Dave
@@IMPACT-NATION your more than welcome!! Keep up the good work!!
@@davesmith7328 thank you brother. I’ll most certainly do my best. Take care Dave. Have a good night man👊
It’s weird because I live in the UK and over here you’ll only really see Makita and DeWalt. I know the Americans love DeWalt but you don’t see Makita that much and I don’t know why.
I ask myself that question all the time man. I only own 2 MAKITA impact drivers. They are no means the fastest or the most powerful but that’s okay. I don’t need a 3600 rpm and 4300 ipm rated impact to drive 3 inch GRKs or 2-3/4 tapcons you know. The XDT13 I own would complete ever task that I need to get done on my job sites. I love MAKITA. They make quality tools. Very good quality. Very ergonomic unless you have very large hands🤣. The XGT line looks awesome. A little pricey in the states right now but not by much.
@@IMPACT-NATION You’re absolutely right man! Like if you have to put in 100 super thick lag bolts all day everyday, then getting a Milwaukee impact makes sense to me because the speed efficiencies would add up, but that’s likely not a frequent occurrence for many or even most. Even the DeWalt, I held in my hand the other day I couldn’t believe people use this over the Makita! What would be important for anyone and everyone regardless of your application are things like size, weight, how it feels in the hand, comfort, reliability, longevity, and honestly I haven’t found one that ticks those boxes more comfortably than Makita. However, even with that in mind, if I was American, maybe I would buy Milwaukee or DeWalt just because they’re American. 🤷🏽♂️
Who cares if one is 1 to 2 seconds faster lol. What most of us would like to see is disassembly of each and compair how each is built and the materials used. . I would rather have the one thats going to give me more years of use even if its 1 to 2 seconds slower!
Exactly man. I got caught up in the hype I’ll admit, about who has the fastest tool. It basically comes down to 10ths of a second. Or a few seconds at most. I’m with you man if it’s built to last it’s a winner. That’s why I bought into Flex. Strong fuckin tools bro and powerful. Might be a tad heavier than most but it’s cool with me. To each their own when it comes to brands. I love Milwaukee Dewalt MAKITA etc etc. All around as a company, warranties, customer service and products. Flex is where it’s at for me
Hard to beat the Ridgid for $99
milwaukee can be had for $85
I’m lovin it more and more everyday Robert. Quiet too
@@wigsplitter1619 WIG!!! what’s goin down brother?
@@wigsplitter1619 honestly I can get the Ridgid bare tool for about $60
I got that Ridgid Reconditioned combo kit(hammer drill, 2 batteries, impact driver and charger) on Direct Tools for $104.99 with a 1yr warranty. Can't beat that.
I've got both the subcompact and the Max Output tools, the upgrade is well worth it
Even tho the flex is fast and strong it’s still far behind Milwaukee and kobalt because of their diversity of tools.
Can’t argue with that. Flex has had some pretty outrageous claims as far as tool production and power ratings. I believe they will deliver on their promises just not in the time frame they said. I love the Gen 3 and the XTR, but the flex is growing on me. Thanks for checking out the video brother. Take care 👊
I don't know why anyone drills holes with an impact I f its all you got OK bit I use a drill
Guess I need to get a drill. Thanks man
The flex is just to damn heavy, I own it but don’t use it
I felt the weight at first too man. Using it as often as I do I’ve adjusted to weight. It’s funny when I go to pick up the Milwaukee or the Dewalt it feels like literally nothing cause I’m so use to the Flex.
ridgid is better than the other ones amigo milwaukee sucks
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