Gremlins | 4K UltraHD Blu-ray Review
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024
- Warner Brothers is back releasing more classic movies in 4K. This time, let’s take a look at their new 4K UltraHD release of GREMLINS!
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No, dude. Changing the mix from TrueHD to DTS MA is not a "downgrade". Those formats are just delivery systems for the mix Warner has on file. TrueHD is not "better" than DTS MA. There can be no perceptible difference in audio from the Blu-ray to the UHD. It's the exact same mix and will sound identical to the Blu-ray
I thought it sounded differently
Double blind test with even sound levels is the only way to tell if you actually hear a difference. Audio is way too subjective and the ability of the human brain to remember audio is way too limited. Maybe one mix was just louder, that alone can confuse our perception of quality.
Sure True Hd is a 7'1 format as DTS HD
Proof positive this dude talks out of his ass.
The cover art sucks. No original artwork = No Glory!
John Smith Agreed, it’s awful.
I thought it looked sick but the original artwork was still pretty nice
Does the 4K make the gremlin puppets more or less realistic?
“Definite downgrade in audio” ... I just love it when people who know nothing about audio give their opinion 🤣 Don’t worry everyone, it’s not a downgrade 🙈
Well in my opinion it is. The Dolby TrueHD track was better than this DTS-HD track. So that’s a downgrade. Your opinion may be different.
@@JeffRauseo Opinions mean nothing in this topic. The fact is both formats are just delivery systems for mixes that have nothing to do with each company. Do some simple volume adjustment and you'll see that they are identical.
DTS HD MA is not a downgrade
Shouldn't the two lossless formats sound nearly identical if encoded competently?
Andersen Peters I thought so, but in my opinion I preferred the older track
Uncompressed is uncompressed. Shouldn't matter whether DTS-HD MA or Dolby TrueHD or even PCM. The TrueHD track is probably from the original Blu from years ago. Now WB used DTS-HD MA. Not backwards, just different.
What is the bitrate of the TrueHD and DTS-HD audio tracks? One isn't necessarily better than the other. What matters is the quality of the source. I doubt we'd be able to hear any difference between the two in a blind audio test.
Really no difference at all. Both uncompressed and master audios
I'm not a fan of the artwork on most of the 4k releases. The Batman films are another example
Thanks, i'm going to stick to my Gremlins 1 & 2 combo on blu ray
Have. Bluray with Gremlins 1 2 and Goonies. I am good till 8k in 10 years
Is it still worth buying 1080P Blu-Ray’s?
Of course!
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I’d have to agree about the need for an Atmos or DTS X audio for 4K releases. While some Dolby True HD/DTS HD MA audio, such as the Christopher Nolan films (where he carefully oversaw the audio process) , can sound great on a 4K disk, most seem just ports from the blu ray and lack the oomph of an Atmos/DTS X mix. I don’t have an expensive system. ( £400/$500 Denon receiver with fomerly 5.1 speakers upgraded to 7.1 with upward firing Atmos enabled speakers). But I find that a good uncompressed Atmos/DTSX audio can add hugely to enjoyment of a film.
So now that 4k has been around and doing well but Blue ray is still popular so will they continue to make all 3 DVD Blue Ray and 4k? It seems like this wouldn't continue to much longer but not everything is available on everything.
I don't understand why dvd is still being made myself?HD DVD looked way better in my opinion so I'd go with using it instead of dvd.I know HD DVD is no longer being produced so Blu-ray and 4K is really all that we need.
CAPCOM784 I agree, but a lot of people still have DVD players and buy DVDs (as they don’t care enough about video/audio quality), so it makes sense to still sell them.
I'll take a DTS mix over a Dolby mix of any kind anytime but that is just my preference. :)
allsportnj yeah it’s all preference. I tend to like the Dolby mixes
Just curious, why do you think Dolby TrueHD sounds better than DTS HD Master Audio? (Not referring to these Gremlins tracks, just in general).
Thank you very much for touching on the fact that not everybody owns the movie on Blu-ray already I think that it’s a welcome change and you should definitely do this in more videos it was very helpful thank you
How is a DTS-HD MA track a downgrade from Dolby TrueHD? Technically, unless they used a different source, that shouldn't make a difference at all. Did you do a fair (equal audio level) sound comparison, or is this simply your subjective opinion?
Hey, quick question. What's the big difference between a 2kDI and a 1080p bluray? Isn't 2k just a little wider?
Could you do a video on which 4k blu rays you would pass up for a decent 1080p bluray? Thanks.
BluRays are usually mastered in a way that the colors look unnatural, especially on newer HDR displays. So (for example) the 2K DI with 10bit or 12bit colors gets compressed down to 8bit colors. The problem for me is that the colors are often exaggerated and the contrast of the images is artificially stretched so that the image might reveal a lot of details and is bright but the feeling of the original lighting is completely lost. A very good example of this is the balcony scene in the 70s Superman when Louis meets Superman supposedly for the first time. On 4k it's a dark and romantic scene, on BluRay it's bright like a sitcom.
@@bened22 that's a great point.
I haven't looked it up yet, but based on the fact that Superman was shot on film i can assume it's probably native 4k master which is well worth the purchase. But do you think HDR is enough of a selling point if there's really no improvement in image quality? 2k is technically glorified 1080p anyway right? I would argue a 2k Di just isn't worth the $30 price point when regular blu ray looks just as crisp.
@@THEBATMAN28AHH It really depends on your setup and viewing habit. I watch 4K disks close to the screen so it feels like I'm in the cinema. I can't do that with BluRays because the compression is too strong (artefacts, banding), the colors look too wrong (unnatural) and it's all very flat. In my opinion HDR is worth it everytime. But from a greater distance or with a worse TV the differences begin to even out. To me HDR is the actual selling point, not the resolution. And from up close I have never seen a BluRay that ACTUALLY looked as good as the 4k counterpart.
@@bened22 from the way i understand compression and all that - 2k Di's stand out from their 1080p counterpart becuase of HDR and low compression method leading to way cleaner images.
The best example i can think of is "Harry Potter and The Half Blood Prince" Blu-Ray. Watching this movie on my 4k has revealed SO many compression artefacts it's not even funny. With some research i found out that Warner Bros. Used a VC-1 compression container around 17mbps, and boy i didn't know Blu Rays could have diagonal lines flying across dark scenes as bad as any DVD.
The 4k UHD version of "The Half Blood Prince" is only a 2k DI, which probably won't look any more crisp as far as detail, but the h.265 compression method might solve the artefact issues and include HDR. So then with all that in mind it might be a great buy.
But if a blu ray has been mastered to look it's best, especially with animated or heavy CGI stuff, is the price worth it?
@@THEBATMAN28AHH I maintain that it would be hard to get a BluRay that looks as good as the related 4K UHD. The "mastered for 4K" BluRays by Sony are the closest thing image-quality-wise but some of the colors still look off to me (red and green too bright). In the end there is always a difference but how substantial one perceives it is up to the viewer. I don't want to go back but of course money can be the deciding factor. By the way: If you don't mind a bit of meddling and just want an image that looks "good", the over the top contrast and the exaggerated colors of typically mastered BluRays might even be a good thing. But I prefer something as close as possible to cinema.
Your lighting has improved. But your key light is a bit too high. A high key light was a characteristic look for Marlene Dietrich. But on everyone else it looks a bit odd. Lower the key and soften the light a bit. Use a bounce card on the other side. Use flags for any glare. And the look of your vids will jump up another couple of notches. But nice to see you're working on it.
Thanks for the advice!
You're looking at close to $100K for the studio to make at Dolby Atmos track for these older films. With the rate these 4K discs are selling, Dolby Atmos is only done for huge titles like the recent Batman 4Ks they're confident will sell. Sony does Atmos for its 4K because they have a stake in these discs - Sony also makes the players.
I was really hoping for a nice upgrade with the 4k transfer because I remember being a little disappointed with the Blu-ray release as far as the picture quality goes. I didn't find it much better than the DVD.
Your lighting has improved. But your key light is a bit too high. A high key light was a characteristic look for Marlene Dietrich. But on everyone else it looks a bit odd. Lower the key and soften the light a bit. Use a bounce card on the other side. And the look of your vids will jump up another couple of notches. But nice to see you're working on it.
I don't think the audio will hurt this release because most people who want 4k will see 4k and go "oh, 4k", and they'll buy it and not notice a damn thing. part of that being that most people don't have the equipment that would allow them to notice a difference.
I’m sorry but this is only way I could find to contact you lol, I just wanted to know if it when buying a 4K tv With 4K blu Ray do I also need to buy a sound bar to get the full benefits of Dolby atmos?
Stuart Blackburn yes. Either a sound bar w Dolby atmos or a 5 speaker or greater receiver that says Dolby atmos. Obv in addition to the 4K blu Ray player that has the atmos feature
Brock T what is a middle ground if say someone can’t afford a sound bar or 5 Speaker or greater receiver?
Warner is not splurging on a Dolby Atmos track for The Shining 4K disc as well. Just DTS-HD 5.1.
Why does Warner get cheap on some titles but the Batman series get Atmos treatment?
Monty Britton
Warner Bros is a dumb company
Batman $$$$$$
Cult films like Gremlins and
The Shining $
The Diamond Luxe film has special features not on this version. It also has better disc art. I think I personally would keep the Diamond Luxe release.
I currently dont have Gremlins in the Collection so im Scooping up the 4K
Same I never owned it on DVD or bluray.
Great review, I think I would get the 4K just for the DTS, my receiver is a dts, it stands out more than a tru HD. My receiver doesn’t have tru HD, the tru HD sounds more like an analog than a digital sound.
I’m just learning about all the different audio mixes and Aquaman has dts mster and it’s widely known that, that movie has 1 of the best audio tracks on 4k
Great job. Thanks for your honest critique of this UHD release.
I’ll skip this, as the HDR upgrade is not enough for a buy.
Any news on the shining 4k mate?
Is this the gremlins 4 but with k ?
When are you going to do a review the Cornetto Trilogy? I am curious on if you will ever do comparisons in your videos similar to " My mooization" style of video.
Thanks for the heads up - sounds like I'm looking at Black Friday for this release
Good review Hope you have one coming for The Shining. Same release date as this.
DTS Master and Dolby True HD are identical
I didn't even know this was coming. Nice!
I had to get 4k disc version awsome picture
I just hope the dts track really makes Quarterflash's song Make it shine sound great in the surround sound mix. I love Quarterflash my favorite band from the 1980's.
love your content my dude, but dolby true hd is compress while dts-ma is lossless. definitely not a downgrade.
Jaws got Atmos and that is older
Your cap is on the wrong way round.
Your head is on the wrong way round if that bothers you.
will you be doing the shinning review on 4k?
Valuable info I was going for steel-book thinking it would be epic. Now I’m waiting for $10 slippy. Thanks Jeff!
Good review. I'm more looking forward to another 4K release that's being released on the same day as this movie, The Shining. I hope you're going to review it before they release it like you did with Gremlins.
Did you ever review, plan to review Superman 78 4k?
I think he did! :)
Great quality review. I was in my local store the other day and saw a 13 blue ray set of Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy. Any chance you could do a review of that?
Not a film for me. Are you doing lock up with sly on 4k getting mine on Monday
the film has German sound track
Mogwai is what there called.
I read it still looks like crap. The regular blu-ray was horrible looked like a dvd
Definitely doesn't look like crap. Isn't a HUGE upgrade, but at the very least I'd say it's the best release yet.
e.t movie 4k?
Basically he is saying get Netflix or a streaming service rather than having 20 grands worth of plastic on a shelf cluttering up the house.
RUclipsr GATURKS says: I'm not sure why people seem to like grain. I really wish they would polish the grain all the way out. There were several scenes that were really grained out. It was disappointing to me.
We are in the digital age now. It's ok to have a polished classic movie... I bet they are waiting on 8k to do that.
Crank up the noise reduction on your TV, and voila! Enjoy! Grain is part of film, and removing the grain removes the detail. It makes no sense to remove detail for a 4K release. As I said, use the noise reduction tools on your TV if you fancy it, and enjoy your smeary, grain-free, detail-free image.
RUclipsr GATURKS has a terrible opinion lmao
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The artwork is terrible
@blue red all of it
should have been the original artwork or at least the same as the bluray
The diamond luxe gremlins blu ray has way more extras.
Yeah, I’ll just stick to that one.
@@moviesbye9294 Trying to find one for a good price. I held of for the 4k but after seeing the reviews and extras it doesn't seem worth it. Picture quality does look great.
One of the worst Spielberg production movies never liked it nor the sequel
That sounds like your problem