Israel: the Officially Unofficial Nuclear State

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
  • Our historical documentary series on the history of the Cold War continues with a video on the nuclear program of the South Africa and how during the period when it was close to Israel, the apartheid era RSA possibly helped Israel to gain access to the technologies and make their own nukes.
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  • @InquisitorXarius
    @InquisitorXarius 10 дней назад +210

    It wouldn’t surprise me if that “Unknown” nuclear test in the Southwest Indian ocean was a South African-Israeli nuclear test.

    • @HVACSoldier
      @HVACSoldier 9 дней назад +16

      That’s what a lot of people suspected.

    • @adammactaggart5444
      @adammactaggart5444 9 дней назад +35

      I think it's near 100% confirmed that was what the Vela Incident was.

    • @andrerobinson8021
      @andrerobinson8021 9 дней назад

      It was a artillery nuclear round, developed by israel e rsa. Since israel could not test their secret arsenal, they used this island for the test, that was picked up by a us satelite only due to an opening of the cloud cover. The us decided to keep it secret due to its intelligence indicating that israel already had approx 80 nuclear bombs by 1980/82

    • @DaFinkingOrk
      @DaFinkingOrk 9 дней назад +6

      Jimmy Carter thought so, and surely he would know info we don't.

    • @randomchannel-px6ho
      @randomchannel-px6ho 9 дней назад +1

      What are you talking about some interference satellite coincidentally looked like a nuclear blast, nothing to see here

  • @Hongaars1969
    @Hongaars1969 9 дней назад +50

    Brilliant. So little was previously reported of South Africa’s nuclear program. Thank you for the much needed upload and for your enduring insights. Regards from Croatia. Zoltán

  • @flaviusbelisarius7517
    @flaviusbelisarius7517 9 дней назад +38

    The way they deny without denying always reminds me of Yes minister

    • @stephenpartridge559
      @stephenpartridge559 8 дней назад +3

      "Never believe anything until it's been officially denied."

    • @jonnyd9351
      @jonnyd9351 8 дней назад +4

      The US knows they have nuclear weapons but the US has laws against providing military aid to entities that posses or develop nuclear weapons outside of the international agreement framework.

  • @jsma9999
    @jsma9999 9 дней назад +56

    I think doing the Iraq Nuclear Program would be a good idea. But I would like to see other states as well cover Nuclear programs like Australia and South Vietnam

    • @markotrieste
      @markotrieste 9 дней назад +5

      Recently I've watched the episode of Asianometry about the Yugoslav one. Seems like in the fifties everybody wanted a nuclear program and then some.

    • @Jc-yu2ot
      @Jc-yu2ot 9 дней назад +2

      South Vietnam? Like the American occupied one? Does thus guy just love apartheid?

    • @suleyman8696
      @suleyman8696 9 дней назад +4

      Iraq ? 😂 Iraq could never get any close to any nuclear sort ….

    • @jonathan13co
      @jonathan13co 5 дней назад +1

      @@suleyman8696 Yes, yes they could. You just don't know history. Iraq used to be a powerhouse in the region before the gulf wars, and they hired the help of french experts for the expansion of their nuclear program back in the 1970s.
      Idk why you'd even deny this or claim its impossible. North Korea, an extremely poor and isolated country, can develop nuclear weapons, so why not an oil rich country at the peak of its economic power?

    • @jsma9999
      @jsma9999 2 дня назад

      @@Jc-yu2ot , NO to Policy, but if you Fight width one way behind your back, it will lead to the South African Defence Force and later the South African National Defence Force (post 1994) to ideas.

  • @SparkBerry
    @SparkBerry 9 дней назад +21

    Interesting is that SA still possesses its weapons-grade uranium despite dismantling the devices.

    • @michaelhowell2326
      @michaelhowell2326 9 дней назад +6

      I'm surprised they haven't tried selling it.

    • @hydrolifetech7911
      @hydrolifetech7911 7 дней назад

      ​@@michaelhowell2326very apparent that you are still sour about Apartheid South Africa's White Minority Rule was defeated. RSA drinks your sweat sweat tears lol

  • @caseclosed9342
    @caseclosed9342 9 дней назад +24

    South Africa also shared some material with Taiwan, who attempted to make a bomb themselves…

    • @michaelhowell2326
      @michaelhowell2326 9 дней назад +8

      I've never heard that tale before reading the comments section.

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 7 дней назад +1

      Was it abandoned? I wonder what China's posture would be today if they had even a very limited stockpile of like 5-10.

    • @Smart-Skippy
      @Smart-Skippy 7 дней назад +2

      Please cite the source !

  • @ostalocutanje
    @ostalocutanje 9 дней назад +19

    It would be nice if you guys could make an episode about Yugoslav nuclear program. I believe it could be interesting, because it would probably include the story of the 1958 reactor incident at the Vinča Nuclear Institute, of the workers exposed to radiation receiving first ever bone marrow transplants in Europe, and of the last year's feature film "Guardians of the Formula" inspired by the events.

    • @KevinBalch-dt8ot
      @KevinBalch-dt8ot 9 дней назад +16

      A RUclips channel Asianometry just did a presentation on the Yugoslavian nuclear program.

    • @TheAsheybabe89
      @TheAsheybabe89 9 дней назад +3

      @@KevinBalch-dt8otI was about to comment that I was just going watching that video the other day and that I bet this guy was too 😆

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh 9 дней назад +12

    In the late 70's 80s, there were always 3 countries that were thought to have "hidden" nuclear weapons, Israel - covered, South Africa - covered - and Taiwan. I forget if you covered that country.

  • @ekmalsukarno2302
    @ekmalsukarno2302 9 дней назад +60

    Hi David and the entire Cold War crew, can you please make a video on the history of Thailand during the Cold War. That way, all your viewers and subscribers will learn about the return of Phibun (who governed Thailand during WW2), the numerous on-and-off military governments that governed Thailand during the Cold War, as well as the stricter enforcement of lese-majeste laws during that same period. Please accept my request.

  • @smhorse
    @smhorse 8 дней назад +5

    Entertaining! I was wondering if there was going to be a presentation on the Negev Textile Factory....and here it is!

  • @TheVanpablo79
    @TheVanpablo79 9 дней назад +3

    Great episode. I love that you only deal in facts

  • @andyreznick
    @andyreznick 9 дней назад +2

    Nice job here, sir. Lots I didn't know even though I lived through it.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 8 дней назад +4

    Intriguing.

  • @Wyntywoo
    @Wyntywoo 9 дней назад +3

    Comment for engagement on great content! Love this channel!

  • @konst80hum
    @konst80hum 9 дней назад +2

    Great presentation of very disconcerting facts. Thank you.

  • @marinoopen
    @marinoopen 9 дней назад +3

    Thanks!

  • @declannewton2556
    @declannewton2556 9 дней назад +8

    Another thing that should have been mentioned is that South Africa had a bizarre strategy on how to utilize their bombs.
    The strategy, which was upheld during the entire time it possessed the bomb, was that South Africa won't actually use them if it found itself in conflict, but that if said conflict went south, South Africa would publicly reveal it's arsenal and threaten to use them. This would then rope in Western powers into the conflict. The underpinning of this strategy was that South Africa felt the Western countries would not militarily support South Africa in a conflict, even if it was conventionally losing. But they still viewed that they had enough lingering goodwill in those countries that the prospect of a nuclear armed state going down would spur an intervention on South Africa's behalf.
    However, South Africa's international isolation only grew and reached its peak in the late 80s. By that time, the US congress had intervened and enforced sanctions. It was now clear that international support was so far gone that not even nuclear sabre rattling could get it; thus rendering the entire strategy null and void.

    • @michaelhowell2326
      @michaelhowell2326 9 дней назад +11

      And they get rid of them bc they knew the incoming government had no business with such devises.

    • @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986
      @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 8 дней назад +1

      The US and North Korea have never liked each other but they know they can use their nukes as leverage in negotiations with the Americans. I think even a modern South Africa post-apartheid with nukes would try the same thing on the international stage if it felt necessary.

    • @Exxperiment626
      @Exxperiment626 8 дней назад +2

      ​@@michaelhowell2326They got rid of them because the US wouldn't allow a Black African nation to be nuclear armed.

    • @everburn
      @everburn 8 дней назад

      ​@@Exxperiment626 they got rid of them because the boers didn't want a nuclear weapon in the black mans hand

    • @everburn
      @everburn 8 дней назад

      ​​@@Exxperiment626 they got rid of them because south Africa and the west did not want the communist sympathising ANC to have access to a nuclear weapon. Keep it out of non allied blocs

  • @wtfroflffs
    @wtfroflffs 8 дней назад +2

    You got me with the joke at the end. 😁

  • @rx7carl
    @rx7carl 6 дней назад

    Definitely looking forward to an episode on the Vela incident

  • @nicholasdalby5178
    @nicholasdalby5178 9 дней назад +11

    Yes, please take a deeper look into the Iraqi program 10:16

    • @1984isnotamanual
      @1984isnotamanual 6 дней назад

      Yes so the fools who think Saddam didn’t have WMDs can correct their ignorance

  • @oldesertguy9616
    @oldesertguy9616 9 дней назад +3

    I would like to hear an in-depth episode on that raid by Israel.

  • @callenclarke371
    @callenclarke371 9 дней назад +2

    Please cover the Vela Incident, and the Iraq Program.
    Thank you once again for your excellent content.

  • @swmark78
    @swmark78 9 дней назад +4

    Yes! Definitely make videos on the Israeli strike and on Iraq's weapons programs. And a multi-part series on the Iran-Iraq war. In fact, make videos on all the things!

  • @markotrieste
    @markotrieste 9 дней назад +3

    Ok, got coffee, I'll wait for the Vela episode.

  • @eustache_dauger
    @eustache_dauger 9 дней назад +5

    Nothing about the Apollo/NUMEC Affair?

  • @malikshabazz2065
    @malikshabazz2065 9 дней назад +1

    great stuff!

  • @Thundergod7734
    @Thundergod7734 8 дней назад +2

    You haven't spoken about Yugoslavia in a while. Maybe it's a good opportunity to talk about its nuclear program and Vinča disaster

  • @johnned4848
    @johnned4848 6 дней назад

    Excellent episode. I am subscribing. I would definitely like to learn more about the Osirik strike. And more about Israel's nuclear weapons and deterrence policy. What about their submarines and rumors of nuclear armed cruise missiles aimed at Iran? Keep up the good work

  • @Vertze
    @Vertze 9 дней назад +1

    I wish you guys would have talked about the NUMEC affair here! Would love to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks for the great content!

    • @jonnyd9351
      @jonnyd9351 8 дней назад +1

      He's be labeled antisemitic

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 7 дней назад

    I'm very much looking forward to that video about the Vela Incident now. I didn't know South Africa actually got the bomb, either! Thank you for yet another excellent video.
    God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)

  • @shlomomark2275
    @shlomomark2275 9 дней назад +4

    The Osiraq strike was a success since it stopped the Iraqi plans for building a nuclear weapon for a decade. Without the strike, the 1991 Golf war would have been very diffrent

  • @Trumben
    @Trumben 8 дней назад +2

    For anyone wondering, the Israeli nuclear programme was headed by an institute (intelligence agency) called the Science Liaison Bureau, in Hebrew Lekem, headed by Rafi Eitan. Fascinating stuff if you want to read about it.

    • @jonnyd9351
      @jonnyd9351 8 дней назад

      i don't like reading about it because of israelis stealing from the west

  • @crasyhorse44
    @crasyhorse44 8 дней назад

    Cant wait for the Vella episode!

  • @Physiker17
    @Physiker17 7 дней назад

    Yes please, a video on Osiraq would be great.

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun 8 дней назад +1

    Suggestion: Countries at the nuclear threshold. Meaning countries with "civilian" nuclear programs, that can yield nuclear weapons within a matter of months: e.g. Germany, Japan, Australia, Sweden, Finland

  • @astrodoops
    @astrodoops 8 дней назад +3

    Can fans of this channel stop asking for a documentary on EVERYTHING? Cold War come out with one video a week, and obviously spend a good deal of time making sure they are releasing factual information.
    Pay them if you want a video made smh

  • @sebastianhalmagean7037
    @sebastianhalmagean7037 9 дней назад +1

    can you guys make a video about canada's cold war nuclear program?? that would be a super neat video!

  • @nyantakyibannor9328
    @nyantakyibannor9328 9 дней назад +5

    Yes; a deeper look into the Iraqi nuclear programme

  • @emrecanarduc4378
    @emrecanarduc4378 9 дней назад +58

    The Cold War team are not suicidal

    • @damianm4727
      @damianm4727 7 дней назад +1

      I heard they've developed a habit of precariously leaning out of windows at least several storeys up

    • @eustache_dauger
      @eustache_dauger 6 дней назад +1

      @@emrecanarduc4378 that's why they didn't talk about the NUMEC Affair

  • @Rydonattelo
    @Rydonattelo 9 дней назад +1

    An independent Scotland says it would give up its extensive nuclear weapons program. The vast majority of nuclear weapons in the UK are either stationed in Faslane Scotland or sailing around the British isle at all time in Trident submarines

  • @ThatGuyWhoLivesinChina
    @ThatGuyWhoLivesinChina 7 дней назад

    David, have you completed your PhD dissertation on the Nike system?

  • @diegoyanesholtz212
    @diegoyanesholtz212 2 минуты назад

    Suggestion can you talk about the Iranian revolution?

  • @mrmr446
    @mrmr446 4 дня назад

    I haven't seen any timeline of development that didn't mean Israel had nukes by '67, which suggests the idea the nation was under threat of being wiped out leaving it no choice to initiate the conflict is inaccurate. The only reason to continue 'strategic ambiguity' is because US aid to defend the country doesn't seem necessary when nukes are part of the nations arsenal, now it manages to be both the strongest military in the region by some distance and afraid of being wiped out, this helps no one.

  • @howilearned2stopworrying508
    @howilearned2stopworrying508 9 дней назад +7

    Any diplomatic deal in the region that doesn't address this is doomed to failure. Really a shame that they can't all build a solar and nuclear grid that could desalinate sea water for cheap and make the entire region bloom - but that is the reality of oil money, backwards nationalism, and the arms trade. Building is hard work, tearing down is easy.

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 8 дней назад +2

      Stop making sense.🫡

    • @donny5302
      @donny5302 16 часов назад

      You said alot of words without mentioning islam.

  • @graftongodofmemes
    @graftongodofmemes 8 дней назад +1

    The technology has been around for 70 years and currently a bomb design is quite acheivable. There's enough information on the surface web for a couple of physics undergrads to design a portable thermonuclear device. Its been done before..took the undergrads about 2years, i believe. The seperation of 235 is another matter of course.

  • @OSADActionScenes
    @OSADActionScenes 8 дней назад

    Do an episode on The Yom Kippur War please

  • @Hannie175
    @Hannie175 9 дней назад +5

    South Africa abandoned its nuclear programme as part of the talks with the African National Congress and to prevent it from having nuclear weapons upon coming to power as the African National Congress was a supporter of communism and the USSR etc. There was significant pressure applied by Western countries to prevent the anti-Western African National Congress to gain access to such weapons.

    • @philipkoekemoer4705
      @philipkoekemoer4705 8 дней назад

      ANC clowns destroyed the infrastructure, just imagine if they still had nukes

  • @reuvenpolonskiy2544
    @reuvenpolonskiy2544 8 дней назад +2

    I am confused, which Iraqi nuclear program was accelerated after Israeli bombing of the Iraqi reactor? We were told that there were no WMD's in Iraq and the invasion was for nothing?

    • @BenyKarachun
      @BenyKarachun 8 дней назад

      There were no nuclear weapons in Iraq because Israel bombed their nuclear reactor. US invaded Iraq due to the invasion of Kuwait in the Gulf war and then again in 2003, where they didn't find chemical weapons

  • @gezblair
    @gezblair 9 дней назад +1

    Would be interested in a deep dive into the Osirak attack. Seems the general consensus is bad move in long term strategic terms for Israel.
    Maybe in a different history you could have had an Israeli/Iraqi pact against Iran during the 80s?

  • @frankgonzalez4435
    @frankgonzalez4435 День назад

    Do a video on Cuba exporting revolution to other parts of the World.

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 9 дней назад +5

    Please do the Iraqi nuclear program.

    • @suleyman8696
      @suleyman8696 9 дней назад +2

      The one that never was… 😂 let’s be honest, Iraq could’ve never get any close to having any sort of nuclear program

    • @cuber5003
      @cuber5003 9 дней назад +1

      ​@@suleyman8696Osirak plant didn't exist?

    • @suleyman8696
      @suleyman8696 9 дней назад

      @@cuber5003 having a Nuclear reactor doesn’t automatically gives you nuclear weapons, you need highly qualified engineers and scientists , some of the worlds best to have access to it. Iran till today can’t have it, and ur telling me Iraq was anywhere close to have it ? Beside, only buying a nuclear reactor was proven difficult for Iraq, as israel went there and destroyed it. Iraq did not even reply at the time, even when israel invaded Lebanon the year later, while saddam wanted to promote himself as the « guardian of Arabs against Israel Iran etc etc »

    • @janrudnicki6111
      @janrudnicki6111 9 дней назад

      US gave pluto Iraq.

    • @cuber5003
      @cuber5003 8 дней назад

      @@suleyman8696 thanks for clarifying, I'm aware it was run foreign experts and difficult to maintain. I just had no idea to what extent they were able to harness nuclear energy.

  • @ChrisBarber-b2r
    @ChrisBarber-b2r 9 дней назад +3

    I don't know if I can ever recall having heard something about SAs nuclear program. Thank you for the information.

  • @arrow1414
    @arrow1414 9 дней назад +7

    Not to be too picky, but that wasn't South Africa's national flag at the time of South African-Israeli atomic cooperation.
    Edit: This comment I posted was made BEFORE The Cold War channel change the thumbnail to the correct flag.

    • @UNOMations
      @UNOMations 9 дней назад

      What was the flag then, not really finding anything else?

    • @arrow1414
      @arrow1414 9 дней назад +4

      @@UNOMations
      The Cold War channel changed the thumbnail. The original thumbnail showed today's post apartheid South African National flag, but the new thumbnail shows the correct apartheid era tri-color flag. You may have seen the thumbnail after they changed it.

    • @UNOMations
      @UNOMations 9 дней назад

      @@arrow1414 That's what I was noticing in some other comments, I didn't see the original thumbnail and was confused initially

  • @zerog5580
    @zerog5580 9 дней назад +2

    How can a nation have a self made arsenal of nuclear weapons if they never tested them? They would not know if they work. If they did test them, it would be detected or noticed, unless you can test nuclear weapons secretly?

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 9 дней назад

      Even as far back as the late 1960's in the aftermath of the NNPT, testing of nukes are done through simulation on supercomputers. Supercomputers then and now are made for nuke test simulations...

    • @KevinBalch-dt8ot
      @KevinBalch-dt8ot 9 дней назад +5

      The US never tested its uranium bomb before dropping it on Japan. It was so simple and reliable and uranium so expensive that they decided not to test it. It is possible to do very low yield or subcritical tests that give a good idea if the weapon will work and what its yield will be. The israelis probably first acquired a uranium bomb and then used French designs fir their first plutonium bomb.

    • @MuiltiLightRider
      @MuiltiLightRider 9 дней назад +2

      I think the prevailing hypothesis is that the Vela incident was Israel's nuclear test. Even then, with the Nuclear Test Ban treaty in place, most nuclear "tests" are done via computer simulation. A basic nuclear bomb is 80 year old science at this point and not that complicated relatively speaking. An actual physical test isn't as much a necessity as in prior decades

    • @santi2683
      @santi2683 9 дней назад +1

      Israel most certainly tested it somewhere else

    • @zomcom11
      @zomcom11 9 дней назад +1

      @@KevinBalch-dt8otThe US did test the atomic bomb before Hiroshima though? Specifically because they were unsure if it would work or not.

  • @shooter2055
    @shooter2055 9 дней назад

    I didn't have a "button". I had a key. Crew S021.

  • @magdovus
    @magdovus 9 дней назад +10

    I think you're wrong about the reasoning behind Opera. It wasn't to maintain nuclear dominance so much as the basic belief that Hussein would use the weapon.

  • @MrJonyish
    @MrJonyish 9 дней назад +2

    I love your videos but I think you sadly let yourself down with your thumbnails lately by using AI images. I think you would convey your tone and garner more views by using just any images from the time you are discussing you can use an image of an Israeli leader or the IDF forces in history not AI!

    • @MrJonyish
      @MrJonyish 9 дней назад

      Or even use an image of ex South Africans leaders or an image of cape town anything but AI it looks cheap and I think devalues the high quality content you make!

  • @Marc816
    @Marc816 День назад

    Who today gives a flying f___ about that test!!!!!???? It happened 50 years ago!!!!!

  • @joaobaptista8377
    @joaobaptista8377 9 дней назад +2

    Israel post cold war is still a Nuclear power country. Everybody knows it is and now Iran and Saudi arabia want to join the party

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 8 дней назад +1

      Yes, along with the multiple UN Contraventions

  • @asaduckworth9369
    @asaduckworth9369 7 дней назад

    Is it just me, or does the thumbnail look AI?

  • @straylight7116
    @straylight7116 5 дней назад

    Yes the country that's above all rules and decency. Literally has to bend laws and ethical bare minimums for their forced expansion.

  • @crystalwaters2260
    @crystalwaters2260 9 дней назад +5

    Please don’t use AI for your thumbnails 😢

  • @Federalrepublicofsprout7263
    @Federalrepublicofsprout7263 8 дней назад

    0:40 Im sorry. Did you say Sweden?

  • @ciandoyle3315
    @ciandoyle3315 9 дней назад +4

    Fairly sure iraq provided numerous amounts of weapons, soldiers and support for multiple wars against israel you paint them like they are completely blameless and that a nuclear program suggests itself for self defence

    • @howilearned2stopworrying508
      @howilearned2stopworrying508 9 дней назад

      and the US sold weapons to both sides in the Iran - Iraq war - all part of a 100 year old scheme to keep Eurasia divided in endless sectarian conflicts so the USA can have economic hegemony.

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo 9 дней назад +10

    With how things are in the region now how long until they decide to use one of their nukes? I honestly feel like they’re currently trying to start a wider war, possibly even another world war.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 9 дней назад +8

      They are beholden to the game theory: it is not in Israel's best interest diplomatically to use nukes at all. Even North Korea is not crazy enough to sling nukes at anyone. Regimes, regardless of their morals, would like to... You know, EXIST, with all the benefits their existence got them...

    • @bernardobiritiki
      @bernardobiritiki 9 дней назад

      @@theotherohlourdespadua1131 that is true, but you have to utterly blind to not see that Isreal is a state that is able to get away with alot more then others diplomaticly . Isreal performs strike in other countries and is currently invading its neighboor with 0 consequences internationaly, infact its getting aid while doing so, any other state would have been sactioned to hell and back.
      I would not be suprised if isreali leadership is under the assumption it can get away with a nuclear strike.

    • @slimmdusty8809
      @slimmdusty8809 9 дней назад

      @@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Read about the Samson Option. That’s the real concern with it.

    • @slimmdusty8809
      @slimmdusty8809 9 дней назад

      @@theotherohlourdespadua1131 You should really look into the Samson Option.

    • @florinivan6907
      @florinivan6907 9 дней назад

      ​@@theotherohlourdespadua1131I guess you could imagine a scenario in which using nukes is preferable. Say if you trully hate the other guy and want their complete elimination at any cost. The nazis would probably have gone nuclear even at the risk of getting wiped out. Since their ideology was built on survival of the fittest there was no argument to not use them.

  • @lipingrahman6648
    @lipingrahman6648 8 дней назад

    Does Israel have any working nuclear reactors? I’m curious if they at least put nuclear power to some practical use.

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 8 дней назад +2

      Of course yes, haven’t you watched this. Demona in the Negev Desert

    • @lipingrahman6648
      @lipingrahman6648 8 дней назад

      @@DaveSCameron oh yes, excellent.

    • @Spacemongerr
      @Spacemongerr 7 дней назад

      ​@@lipingrahman6648Nuclear reactors for research and making weapons, yes.
      But not nuclear power plants, Israel does not have any of those.
      Their nuclear program is designed for death, not for improvement of lives.

  • @daviddouillet4138
    @daviddouillet4138 9 дней назад +24

    I am Algerian, and here we know from the leftover paperwork and remaining gear from the French nuclear tests that Israel also tested on our soil under the French umbrella.

    • @dannileigh6426
      @dannileigh6426 9 дней назад +5

      More details and sources? I never thought of that possibility.

    • @Will-ql5db
      @Will-ql5db 9 дней назад

      Then again, Israel had to develop that weapon because Arabs wanted to destroy israel, so maybe the "remaining gear" is the Arabs chickens coming home to roost.

    • @Will-ql5db
      @Will-ql5db 9 дней назад

      Then again, the Arabs tried to wipe out Israel (multiple times), so....

    • @shlomomark2275
      @shlomomark2275 9 дней назад +2

      No, it didn't

    • @abdrfhl
      @abdrfhl 6 дней назад

      arrete de montire ton nom prouve que t es pas algerien

  • @mbotentoto5162
    @mbotentoto5162 7 дней назад

    Israel, and Iran; fixed the title for you.

  • @StalinTheMan0fSteel
    @StalinTheMan0fSteel 9 дней назад +12

    The U.S. was never fooled by Israel. We knew all along about their development program and the Iraqi reactor was specifically designed for producing bomb-grade plutonium and France was well paid for their help. If Israel hadn't destroyed it, the first gulf war would have been a nuclear war.

    • @janrudnicki6111
      @janrudnicki6111 9 дней назад

      U.S IS ON A LEAD ISRAEL.

    • @howilearned2stopworrying508
      @howilearned2stopworrying508 9 дней назад +1

      from my cold dead hands - everyone is sovereign or no one is

    • @janrudnicki6111
      @janrudnicki6111 9 дней назад

      @@howilearned2stopworrying508 Lots lobbyis created own facial Empire like London Citys Wall Street etc.

    • @Karl_Childers_1996
      @Karl_Childers_1996 9 дней назад +3

      If I may ask, how do you know that any of the things that you just declared with authority are true? Were you in US intelligence services during the 60s--80s?

    • @StalinTheMan0fSteel
      @StalinTheMan0fSteel 9 дней назад +2

      @Uncle_Torgo What a stupid question! I wasn't alive during the Civil War, yet I understand the events that took place.

  • @KonyCurrentYear
    @KonyCurrentYear 9 дней назад +13

    Wrong Republic of South Africa flag in the thumbnail.

    • @news26boom
      @news26boom 9 дней назад +4

      It is the correct one - the orange, blue and white with the dutch and english flags.

    • @UNOMations
      @UNOMations 9 дней назад +2

      ​@news26boom Yeah, though, from how it sounds, it may have originally had the modern SA flag in the original version of the thumbnail. I wasn't able to see it even in the notification, so I can't confirm

    • @news26boom
      @news26boom 9 дней назад +3

      @@UNOMations Several comments have said they used the modern one initially, so my bad.

    • @UNOMations
      @UNOMations 9 дней назад +2

      @@news26boom I was initially confused by these comments too

  • @RedPaganNetwork
    @RedPaganNetwork 6 дней назад

    On a somewhat unrelated note, Israel is still committing genocide against Arab populations and Jewish Palestinians (specifically the Ashkenazi)

    • @nemaproblema6879
      @nemaproblema6879 6 дней назад +1

      Funny communist

    • @RedPaganNetwork
      @RedPaganNetwork 6 дней назад

      @@nemaproblema6879 it's the truth

    • @joahua122
      @joahua122 3 дня назад

      jewish palestinians? askhenazis are the one who control israel lol they are the richest jews

  • @thaldoras1025
    @thaldoras1025 9 дней назад

    Brought this topic up in one of the recent live streams. Now I see why you ignored me.

  • @NorthForkFisherman
    @NorthForkFisherman 9 дней назад +1

    @ 15:31 I think a more accurate statement would be that "a nation that developed nuclear weapons and then abandoned them" as Ukraine did have former Soviet nukes in the country. In hindsight, I'm quite certain that they wish that they'd taken control of that arsenal rather than leaving it in Russian hands.
    So now we have Terminator-quality drones...
    Yay?

  • @Nobody.exe50
    @Nobody.exe50 8 дней назад

    heheheh , dual key

  • @100domathon
    @100domathon 9 дней назад +4

    APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICA WAS ISRAEL'S ONLY FRIEND IN AFRICA. SINCE THE COLLAPSE OF APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICA AND ISRAEL HAVE POOR RELATIONS

    • @boazsayar1193
      @boazsayar1193 8 дней назад

      Other African stats were bought by Gaddafi. After years of Israel agronomical aid.

  • @BMWE90HQ
    @BMWE90HQ 9 дней назад +4

    1990 was a bad year for South Africa.

  • @sundhaug92
    @sundhaug92 9 дней назад +3

    This seems very apropos given the winner of the 2024 Nobel Peace Prize, announced yesterday

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 7 дней назад

    Informative historical coverage video about Israelian nuclear Arsenals.

  • @shamsishraq6831
    @shamsishraq6831 6 дней назад +1

    No people more honest than the chosen ones.

  • @deniz9415
    @deniz9415 8 дней назад +9

    It's terrifying how USA never ceases to accommodate Israel, regardless of what they do.

  • @michaellynes3540
    @michaellynes3540 9 дней назад +4

    Israel have nuclear weapons. They’re not admitting it or denying it. They’re not denying that they have nuclear weapons, mostly to keep hostile Arab nations from doing anything irrational. They’re not admitting that they have nuclear weapons because the last thing they want is an arms race with the Arab nations, especially with Iran.

    • @slimmdusty8809
      @slimmdusty8809 9 дней назад

      @@michaellynes3540 It’s beyond more than the Arab nations, the Samson Option makes that pretty clear and very scary for the whole world, could easily spiral into a worldwide nuclear catastrophe.

    • @dinmavric5504
      @dinmavric5504 8 дней назад +1

      ​@@slimmdusty8809 Not a catastrophe as much as you think, nature would recover as it has done in Chernobyl, and there it's a haven for nature. Humans though, would be done for. Forever.

  • @vortimerofkent128
    @vortimerofkent128 9 дней назад

    Take this comment as a tribute to the almighty Bell Button jokes.

  • @MicaiahBaron
    @MicaiahBaron 8 дней назад +5

    The more I learn about the Israeli government, the more I recognize that fascism is alive and thriving the Middle East. May Netanyahu enjoy all that he wishes upon his neighors.

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 8 дней назад +1

      Unfortunately you are quite correct with their expulsion of anyone not Jewish and countless Africans under Netanyahu let alone the 20+ UN Contraventions outstanding are the least of their fascism when we consider just a single contravention by Iraq caused a self righteous global response speaks volumes..

  • @saulocpp
    @saulocpp 9 дней назад +2

    Worth mentioning Pakistan being the only muslim country that has nuclear weapon(s).

  • @안호성-p6z
    @안호성-p6z 9 дней назад +1

    I see what you did there...😂 did an AI prompt for the thumbnail and got the current flag of South Africa?
    Apartheid South African flag does look quite off there with the edit now

  • @dannyearlreal
    @dannyearlreal 9 дней назад +5

    Google the Samson Option

    • @slimmdusty8809
      @slimmdusty8809 9 дней назад +3

      @@dannyearlreal Yeah it’s pretty alarming, but people will still try to justify it.

    • @dinmavric5504
      @dinmavric5504 8 дней назад

      @@slimmdusty8809 It's no more alarming than any other country having nukes. But people pretend they don't exist, when they do exist and they will be one day the end of human role as the apex predator on Earth. All it takes is one idiot, one fascist, to press the button... And counting the countries who do have nukes, there are plenty of those people.

    • @joahua122
      @joahua122 3 дня назад

      is crazy how ungrateful they are after europeans support them

  • @JoaquínMémoli
    @JoaquínMémoli 9 дней назад +1

    That thumbnail is a real match made in hell

  • @RazTheVoidTalker
    @RazTheVoidTalker 9 дней назад +8

    Talking about being an armchair historian... 🙄
    The attack on the Iraqi weapons facility, which was specifically aimed to attack Israel with, was what made them 'realise Israel is a threat'??? What???
    Just goes to show, a nice looking RUclips background and a calm voice does not replace education.
    Iraq was one of the 5 countries that invaded Israel in 1948, the moment it was established in accordance to a UN resolution and international law.
    Iraq didn't need to see Israel as a threat, they were bent on destroying it from day one.
    Second - it was a failure? LOL.
    I wish this kind of 'failures' on all of my friends and none of my enemies.
    After that one pre-emptive strike, the only other time Israel had any threat from Iraq was during the Gulf War, a war that had nothing to do with Israel, but Saddam Hussain tried to pull Israel into it to fracture the Western-Arab alliance against him, by launching missiles at Israeli cities.
    The Israeli attack on the Iraqi facility was a huge tactical success. It effectively removed Iraq from the list of threats to the country pretty much to this day.
    That's the problem with these channels. You have 420k subscribers, and you use that to pass misinformation to the uneducated who do not know the facts.

    • @oohhboy-funhouse
      @oohhboy-funhouse 8 дней назад

      Literal Hasbara

    • @RazTheVoidTalker
      @RazTheVoidTalker 8 дней назад

      @@oohhboy-funhouse Literal antisemite who think saying something is 'hasbara' is a counter argument. 😆
      I love how you geniuses think you're smart for learning a Hebrew word that just means 'to explain'. 🤣

  • @1982mikedn
    @1982mikedn 9 дней назад

    Great job with this video! For those interested in a great read about the Israeli weapons program, seek out the book “The Samson Option”. Among interesting anecdotes in the book was the involvement of then newspaper owner Robert Maxwell in the Vanunu incident. Maxwell of course being the father of Ghislaine Maxwell.

  • @slimmdusty8809
    @slimmdusty8809 9 дней назад +16

    One of the biggest mistakes of all time was allowing them to have nuclear weapons.

    • @westrim
      @westrim 9 дней назад +3

      How do you believe preventing it would have gone down?

    • @randomlyentertaining8287
      @randomlyentertaining8287 9 дней назад +2

      Not really.

    • @KevinBalch-dt8ot
      @KevinBalch-dt8ot 9 дней назад +1

      Kennedy tried to stop it but his efforts were doomed from the start. He named Meyer Feldman as his middle east advisor and was indebted to long time democrat fund raiser Abe Feinberg for campaign contributions. Feinberg was part of a group of wealthy donors that covertly put up about half the money for Israel’s nuclear program. LBJ and Nixon looked the other way on Israel’s nukes.

    • @slimmdusty8809
      @slimmdusty8809 9 дней назад

      @@westrim I don’t have the answers, all I know is it shouldn’t been allowed. Look up the “Samson Option” and read about how terrifying that is if you don’t know.

    • @KevinBalch-dt8ot
      @KevinBalch-dt8ot 9 дней назад

      @@westrim - The initial Israeli weapons were likely made from highly enriched uranium stolen from a plant in Pennsylvania around 1963-64. The US government suspected diversion because the material processing losses at the plant were so large. The plant was owned by a devout zionist so Israel was suspected. But the US dragged its feet on investigating the matter because of domestic political considerations.
      Note that the Dimona reactor used heavy water which allows the use of unenriched uranium. This was a deliberate decision because enrichment facilities are huge, require a lot of electricity and are easily detected. The Israeli program probably ran into financial or technical difficulties and a quick, reliable weapon could be made by stealing enriched uranium from the US.

  • @randbarrett8706
    @randbarrett8706 8 дней назад +1

    Hilarious to think that Israel was ever worried about it’s relationship with the US.

    • @scottkrater2131
      @scottkrater2131 8 дней назад +6

      Why? We refused to allow them entry during the Second World War and then embargoed arms sales at the founding of Israel.

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 8 дней назад

      ?

    • @nemaproblema6879
      @nemaproblema6879 6 дней назад

      ​@@DaveSCameronyou are dumb

  • @turinturambar6492
    @turinturambar6492 5 дней назад

    Two racist states helping each other 😂😂😂

  • @alexroselle
    @alexroselle 9 дней назад +5

    Mr. Cold War do not get into any cars, airplanes, or hotel rooms with attractive women you don’t know, no matter how into you they seem

  • @dcanedemboyz7431
    @dcanedemboyz7431 9 дней назад +7

    Israel: The Offical Unofficial Liar

    • @bigsmoke4568
      @bigsmoke4568 9 дней назад

      Except lying is actually a Tennant and considered a virtue in Islam, not Judaism

    • @groucho1080p
      @groucho1080p 8 дней назад +2

      @@bigsmoke4568 source?

    • @Jay-ho9io
      @Jay-ho9io 6 дней назад

      ​@@groucho1080phe has none.

  • @toeknee6220
    @toeknee6220 9 дней назад +3

    This creates a very strange impression.
    1. The current ANC who is leading government was actually aligned and funded by the soviet union, by using the new South African flag it creates the impression that those in the current government were aligned with Isreal during the cold war. Which is not the case.
    2. The aparthied government was supported by the west until it was no longer cool (as an example ammunition manifactured in South Africa is in line with NATO standards).
    Otherwise greate videos as always

    • @Semper_Iratus
      @Semper_Iratus 9 дней назад +1

      And now south africa isn’t doing so well under its new leadership.

    • @tiaelago-oretukaumunika7017
      @tiaelago-oretukaumunika7017 9 дней назад +2

      ​@@Semper_Iratus this is pretty new. Between 1994 and round about 2012 things were very optimistic. Even then, things are looking up again now since the last election

    • @hydromic2518
      @hydromic2518 4 дня назад

      @@Semper_IratusSouth Africa is actually doing much better now, a lot of the problems had to do with our previous president Jacob Zuma. There hasn’t been any loadshedding in 200 days.

  • @hourbee5535
    @hourbee5535 9 дней назад +2

    And today you see why Israel wanted this capability.

    • @KevinBalch-dt8ot
      @KevinBalch-dt8ot 9 дней назад

      The weapons are intended to give Israel leverage over the US by threatening their use if the US does not unconditionally support Israel. And the strategy works quite well.

    • @arielg.2681
      @arielg.2681 9 дней назад

      To deter Iran and other Arab states from destroying it.

  • @Cybonator
    @Cybonator 9 дней назад +3

    The co-operation between Israel and Apartheid SA, including the nuclear help, is a major reason why the new democratic South Africa is opposed to Israel

    • @bobdollaz3391
      @bobdollaz3391 9 дней назад +1

      Mandela's right hand man, Joe Slavo, was "Israeli" 😂

    • @Cybonator
      @Cybonator 9 дней назад

      @@bobdollaz3391 Jewish =/= Israeli, ask Ruth First

    • @evilleader1991
      @evilleader1991 8 дней назад +4

      Well it makes sense, there are a lot of similarities to the Apartheid state of SA in the past and present time Israel.

    • @bobdollaz3391
      @bobdollaz3391 8 дней назад

      @@evilleader1991 the 🕎 s supported the Communist ANC, like always they play all sides

    • @Exxperiment626
      @Exxperiment626 8 дней назад +3

      ​@@bobdollaz3391Being Jewish don't make you an automatic supporter of the Apartheid state of Israel.

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun 8 дней назад +2

    You forgot about one very important aspect of South Africa dismantling its nuclear weapons program: Race.
    It's no coincidence that this happens towards the end of Apartheid. People at the time were well aware that it was about to end, one way or another. And neither the US, nor the Soviet Union, nor the European countries, nor even China, India, any Asian country for that matter, and also not South American countries had any desire for a (mostly) black country to have nukes.

    • @nvelsen1975
      @nvelsen1975 8 дней назад +2

      There's always a racist who argues that unstable warlords are only not allowed to have nukes because they're black. Thus ignoring massive coercion towards countries like Poland who did nuclear blackmail to get into NATO.
      Next time, don't be that racist.

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 8 дней назад

      What are you saying here?

    • @bikkiikun
      @bikkiikun 8 дней назад

      @@DaveSCameron : First of all, you might want to read, to know what I'm saying.
      But that aside, I merely pointed out a fact that was missing here.

    • @atheistbushman
      @atheistbushman 7 дней назад

      @@nvelsen1975 It is not "racist" to observe that African countries are politically very unstable
      Imagine Idi Amin with nuclear weapons.

  • @1984isnotamanual
    @1984isnotamanual 6 дней назад

    For the fools who think Saddam didn’t have WMD, look up his nuclear program as it was mentioned here.

  • @omertsror7454
    @omertsror7454 9 дней назад +2

    This video is full of misinformation

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 8 дней назад +1

      Majority factual..

    • @Jay-ho9io
      @Jay-ho9io 6 дней назад +1

      What specific information is an accurate, and provide sources for the inaccuracy.