Go Amy and Deanna! Please keep speaking out. We can't let this go--the IBLP has too much influence on local and national politics as well as Evangelical churches.
@@kimoandrews5802 Well I take offense to that, I'm a Proud Christian MAGA Deplorable!! It's God Family and Country!! We are not and never will be a Cult like these people. The punishment that this cult embodies are disgusting and should be charged for Child endangerment and cruelty. But these kids are grown adults now, and they still choose to stay that's on them. And I Pray one day before it's too late they open there eye's and ear's and hear the true Gospel of the Bible!
I always laughed when Amy went to the duggars home..you knew Jim Bob was uncomfortable with her there..I thought it was funny how Amy could make this strong man feel small..I've always thought Amy and her mom were amazing and I loved how Amy loved to get a rise out of Jim and Michelle..
I never watched the show, but I feel like putting Amy & Deanna on the show was meant to create minor drama, like give the viewers a contrast between the way Deanna was raising Amy vs JB & M were raising their kids. All with a heavy veil of secrecy and fakeness to hide the ab*se
@@ceciliabrown6341 they weren't on many episodes..but it was great with Amy on..I swear she looked forward to annoying Jim and Michelle..the girls loved her..which made it worse..lol
Super happy for Amy and Deanna. I know some people are on the fence about them, but I feel that if they didn’t speak up, their silence would’ve been interpreted as tolerating what the Duggar parents did.
It’s crazy how far the drama has gone for the family!!! Josh is a monster and JB is a master manipulator!!! Amy is brave to tell the truth about her relatives!!!!
Josh is a product of abuse bc his family tried & controlled everything even from an infant. It damaged his sense of right from wrong & made him in the monster he is today. His siblings all have issues bc of the upbringing too. They just hide it better.
Amy is beautiful. She and her momma get virtual hugs for standing up to Jim Bob, a powerful man in their area, and sharing what they know and saw. I would love her to write a book telling her story.
I agree. I’d love to hear about Amy’s life. She’s so real and so outspoken and not afraid to speak her mind. It’s refreshing after hearing so much controlled responses from the 19 Kids and Counting side of the family. I’d love to know more about the bigger picture, the bigger story and the extended family. And not just their opinions about what we saw on tv, but about their own stories. Their own lives. Amy is special and I respect her. She’s not perfect and she doesn’t try to portray herself as such. It’s relatable and refreshing.
I definitely would love to hear her take on this. If there us a second series and they do dive into how Josh turned out the way he did, I'm sure it will be well viewed.
I can’t imagine my parents telling me I had to stand next to the brother that “abused” me for a family photo. If my brother did something like that my parents wouldn’t have allowed him to be anywhere near me let alone in a family picture. Jim Bob and Michelle are really sick. Why they were not investigated by CPS when all of this “hit the fan”, and the family still had a dozen under age kids at home, is beyond me. The statute of limitations might have run out on the crime Josh committed but the kids still needed parents that would protect them, and if they refused to then the kids should have been taken away.
@@susanmagalas3074 than thanks god we live in n the USA. People in the country can worship and ededucate there kids in accordance with their faith.. FREEDOM OF RELIGION we don't have to agree or approve
If I could speak to Anna I would say 'Sins that happen in darkness need to be brought into the light. This is the right thing before God, for the victim and also for the perpetrator. It keeps God's precious ones safer, helps the perpetrator by making further sin more difficult to commit, it promotes humility and so removes some of the temptation whilst also allowing for accountability. God disciplines the ones he loves.' This applies to each of us as witnesses as well each of us as sinners. It is a hard counsel and does not necessarily involve shouting from the rooftops to the entire world. We need to earnestly and sincerely pray for the right people with faith and integrity to come alongside us.
I remember seeing an interview with her. She said, I'm a Christian, I go to church, I'm not a criminal, I don't hurt others-especially children. Why am I made out to be a rebel, un Godly and sinful? (Paraphrasing here) I agree, she is a very good person. I feel bad that she was used as a negative example.
People that target others usually are doing something even worse. I never follow what another person says about someone that I literally see as a good person regardless if everyone else treats them poorly. I see people. I see their true intentions. Amy didn't deserve to be called bad bc they literally had all this they were all hiding.
@kathymiller6232 Well, let's start with blanket training, not giving them a functional education, not allowing the kids to have an opinion that differed from theirs, allowing Josh to sexually assault some of the girls without meaningful consequences, forcing the girls to go on the Megan Kelly interview against the girls wishes. I'm sure if I sat down and concentrated, I could name others.
As someone who has a degree in early childhood education & also 4 children of my own, I can't tell you how angry the Duggar's & their cult makes me! In college we were taught how to work with children without instilling fear and physical punishment on them. How would you feel if you found out your child's teacher frightened or hit your child? That teacher would likely be fired at the very least. Yet the Duggar's inflict physical & emotional abuse on their own children from the time they're babies.
OMG! I went to a Catholic school and there was corporal punishment. We did learn respect for parents, teachers or any authority figure ... Not like the kids today. Lots of snowflakes that have no respect and the world revolves around them. They cant function in society today.
I started public school in 1983 and myself and my peers feared some of our Teacher's and definitely our bus drivers. Physical altercations occurred between Teacher's and students. And 2 bus drivers in particular, were feared. Respect or fear.? We knew when to sit down and shut up. In Jr. High there was a fist fight between a 6 grade student and the math teacher. Real punches. The Teacher was Teaching the next day and didn't get any grief about it. Idk many "nice" Teacher's from my childhood.
@sharynkoren2054 Yeah, teachers have no business hitting children but parents need to teach their children to respect teachers and adults but also teach them its ok to say no and it's ok to tell if someone is doing something you know is wrong.Duggar beliefs are so so wrong and they don't protect their children they hurt their children and teach them to respect adults even if they do wrong. So messed up. If Jos Duggar ever touch one of my kids I would gladly go to jail after I unlived him because that is the only way to stop someone like Josh Duggar and to be honest JimBoob needs to go as well he the king of the monsters.
When I was in elementary school, the principal swatted the bad kids with a paddle, if they were sent to the office. I never wanted that to happen to me, so I was always well behaved. Besides, if I were to get in trouble, it would have been worse when I got home.
Great job Amy and Deanna!!! Please keep up the good work! This cult needs to be exposed! The abuse needs to be investigated. Treating children like this is not biblical!
@@BildgesmytheI doubt she was even allowed to have much to say… it also seems they became more extreme as JB and his family gained more notoriety. I always felt they were easily lead.
Maybe Jim Bob told her he would cut her and her mother off from the family if she did it. Amy was close to some of her cousins and the thought of losing her family was maybe just to much for her then. Now she is taking her stand. I’m just speculating.
I am so happy there is going to be a season 2 to Shiny Happy People. I hope there is one documentary after another on this cult until Gothard is in jail and IBLP no longer exists. Of course cults like this are a game of whack-a-mole where one gets destroyed only to have an identical new one pop up.
CPS needs to have an open supervision case on this family and someone needs to take that stupid rod away from them. From what I can see, Josie is a special needs child. If they use the rod on her or otherwise inflict pain to “train” her then shame on them. Someone please stop these morons. How much longer are we going to talk about them? We know enough to to intervene. This kind of parenting should be openly condemned by professionals and churches everywhere. CPS could at the very least require them to put their kids in public school and take parenting classes. Some day these kids are going to ask why nothing was done.
I had terrible memorization issues as a child in our church and I stood up to the adults when they got upset with me for reading a verse instead of reciting. I took them to task for that and they admitted they didn't listen bc they wanted to instill the discipline of memory. I said "well, find another way". They ended up giving the kids a choice whether they read or recited anything.
I want to thank you for all of your scoops. You are so professional and informative. So many of the topics are deep and complicated. I can tell you really do your homework! GREAT JOB!!
Are you familiar with families that have a "switch" tree/bush? I mean that to me is a very southern thing. Going out and getting your own switch and having to bring back a "good one" to get whipped with. Did not happen to me, but I have several friends that grew up like that. I'm from Ohio, and my neighbors growing up had a "switch" bush.
Yes! This is a real thing. This is a very southern thing, and was also common in the southern black home in the 90s and before. My grandmother and grandfather would have us go pick a switch when we would cut up. We had to choose a good one too, otherwise they would go retrieve one they found fit. I can’t say it left me with any long lasting trauma, as this was seen widely as “normal”. But I definitely do not use this type of punishment with my children. Never even used a belt, to be honest! All of those things were very common. Spare the rod, spoil the child mentality
Why did Jim Bob have a say about her going on DWTS? I'm confused. Did I miss something? She was an adult by then and not his child. Why was he in charge of what Amy did?
Because Amy was a part of his contract with TLC. She was included with all of his kids and Michelle Etc. And if TLC didn't like Dancing with the Stars or Jill and Derick in Central America then they could say no. Jim Bob had final say on what Direction the shows would go. And he would never have approved of Dancing With the Stars.
A little off topic, but Katie Joy--back on the old TV W/O Pity boards (iirc) someone speculated that before the show there were many Duggar kids who'd never been to a store--that Michelle would drive the mini bus to a friends and one of the older girls would sit in the bus with the little ones while they napped. That Michelle had an active social life and the girls were the babysitters.
I do not feel like I was abused as a child even though I was spanked with whatever was closest to my mom’s hand. Wooden spoons, flyswatters, belts. Sometimes we even had the hand cut switch from the woods! Looking back, I hated that my parents thought incorporating total fear and control were the best methods. I did not use those techniques with my own children. I never wanted them to fear me. Usually.😉
I think Amy is basically a decent person, but I watched all the shows and she was always eager to be a part of them. She went on every trip, she used the show to talk about her Nashville trips, when she tried to break into Show Business. She was more than willing to use every Duggar contact in Branson and elsewhere to try and start a singing career. If she was really afraid of Jim Bob or Josh or anybody in their family, she could have stayed home.
@@lorimill187 in all fairness, Amy was born out of wedlock. So her legal last name was Duggar. Her father was in an out of her life and in and out of a relationship with her mother. They did eventually marry but ended up divorced.
You definitely needed one of those “S” filters on the microphone for this one 😮 I have ASD and those super sharp sounds is a trigger 😖 (🤣 just typing “super sharp sounds” made my ears hurt 😂). Other than that this was one of your best Dugger episodes to date! Great job! Also, although I love your editing and photo choices, I can’t wait to see your face again! You somehow seem more relaxed, your voice and speech more fluid and confident when you’re not on camera.
I'd like to see the cross over between her life with her mom & dad & her aunt & uncle. Like what kind of crap did Jim Bob & Michelle try to plant in her head as the situation with her dad got worse? I could see them trying to use that to pull her into the IBLP, obviously it didn't work but I bet there are some interesting stories there.
We have to remember that none of these people, (young ones) have been so washed in the IBLP that they don’t know much of the outside. This young lady knows. I think it’s great she’s standing by them through this tough stuff. Sooner than later, ALL of JBs kids will come forward.
I’ll bet ANYTHING that JB REGRETS having Amy ever appear on their show! Especially knowing that she was raised differently ( not IBLP) but CERTAINLY NEVER thought that she would end up writing a book ( Oh Dear God !) describing any secrets regarding punishments doled out by JB and Michelle and what the vibe of the Dugger home REALLY was….yep…he TOTALLY Regrets letting her step one foot in front of that camera! 🥹🥹🥹😜😜😜
I’m confused! Why did JB have ANY say in if Amy did Dancing With The Stars? He’s a nothing to her except a Uncle and not a good one at that. Why, why, why did he have a say?
I like Amy. You can tell by her reactions when she was young and was hanging out at the compound. She would make faces at some of the BS that went on there
It's crazy you mention that you are almost breaking 340 K subscribers when I subscribed right when you were passing over the 200k finish line. 😊 I'm sure Josh really helped you to grow to this new number so fast. Well done for all your searching, gathering and presenting of data people are interested in! 👏
Hi Katie, did you have any commentary about the Bobye & Jim Holt protection order? I just heard about this after watching a shiny happy people YT commentary video.
Amy mentions the fact that her cousins missed out on social activities but what about the fact that all of these children missed out on an education!! None of these kids ever got the opportunity to see where a formal education could have taken them. Who knows if they could have been doctors or lawyers or scientists. I'm betting there will be lots of regrets as they get older and realize how they never got to develop into independent, functioning members of society - not just more stepford people for the church.
I don’t doubt what Amy says about the family is true; but I am sorry, as I think she is milking this for all it’s worth. Of course she’s doing every interview she can, and of course she is thinking of writing a book too, because why miss out on a golden opportunity? She was not under Jim Bob’s rule, so how did he stop her from going on “Dancing with the Stars,” and how could he force her to go to marriage boot camp? She went under him because at the time he was still her best ticket to fame, and she thought he could still promote her. I don’t doubt she feels passionate about what she is saying and that she is concerned about her cousins, but I can’t help feeling she is enjoying the attention. For what it is worth, I am glad she and her mom are speaking out; but I won’t be reading her book if she writes one. She already said what she had to say about her famous relatives, and she is just not that interesting on her own.
She was probably under Jim Bob's TLC contract and was "not allowed" to take the time off and/or "not allowed" to go on such a show like DWTS. A show such as this is probably very sinful from Jim Bob's point of view, and he would fear that an appearance on that show would taint the Duggar's "shiny happy" image.
I’m not a Duggar fan, but Amy had no problem showing up for the cameras and using the last name Duggar when she wasn’t born a Duggar. She had nothing negative to say about her family publicly until the shtf
Amy was NEVER a part of IBLP so she has nothing to add to about situation. And she has NOT been a friend of the Duggars in MANY years. So she has NO inside info to add about their family. I remember Amy had a few TLC shows where she went to Nashville to try to make it as a singer. I remember she was close to the Duggars then. The Duggars even appeared on her show to garner ratings for her. So she used the Duggars for that cross promotion. For many, many years Amy has done interviews and magazines articles against the Duggars. She has NOTHING new to say about them because again she has not been a part of their lives so she need to stop giving interviews to keep her face out there. Go away Amy and stop riding the Duggar's coattails. I cant imagne what she has to write a book about. BYE, BYE!!
You called it just the other day. Every day, something a little more alarming. We knew about many of these things, but many of the skeletons are now starting to be seen in much more clarity.
I am skeptical of Amy. I’m not taking away from her that she may have experienced trauma. I just also feel like she learned well from JB how to be opportunistic. It does take courage to speak out - especially in such a public way. But what does she have to lose at this point? She is already estranged from the family. I dunno. Praying for all the victims.
This is interesting because my mom signed me up for a summer camp once and there was no mention of anything religious. But in order to go and eat lunch, you had to memorize a bible verse of the instructor’s choosing. I was such a nervous kid speaking in front of people and I kept screwing it up. Everyone else got to eat lunch. I missed archery and horseback riding. Finally I recited it in front of several instructors who were all trying to figure out what my problem with God was, in time to get on the bus to go home. I cried and hugged my mom when I got off the bus and I never went back. She was furious. I don’t think she ever got her money back either. But she never made me go back. The verse, and they paraphrased it a bit, “in my father’s house there are many mansions, if there were not would I have told you? I go there to prepare a place for you. I will come again” John 14:2 & 3 I get triggered at funerals by this as it brings me back to that time. It seems silly but I cried so hard and felt so stupid because I couldn’t remember all of it perfectly as they needed to hear it.
I am very sorry you went through that. Please know all Christians are not that way. I went to a Christian summer camp for a few summers as a kid, but never had that type of experience. I wish it had been fun for you, but now, you can at least understand it wasn't you, it was THEM!❤✌️
I live in SC and in my school (primary) my principal had a huge paddle made of wood and that's what happened to you if you were disruptive. They didn't even need parental permission.
I do feel a lot of compassion for Amy and Deanna even though Amy gets a lot of backlash for seeking attention, she continues to stand up for those who would face rejection from their family and therefore she takes the hit for them. This can happen not only when your family is in a cult but simply for standing up against a narcissist or someone who is harmful. I know this all to well as my father is with a narcissist and I am now deleted and ignored from someone she knows because they didn't agree with me standing up for myself and other family members and kept telling me to compromise and have compassion completely dismissing and gaslighting anything I said. For a few moments it made my blood boil so I cannot imagine what Amy Deanna and Jill go through.
Hmm… I do like Amy because I believe a lot of what she is saying to be true, but I also think she is milking this for all it’s work. We get it. Close this chapter girl. How is it that she’s saying more than Jill or Jinger?
Spanking kids is not a crime or wrong. It must be appropriate, but it is a tool that serves a purpose and helps children learn about actions and consequences in a way that “timeout” doesn’t. My dad spanked me twice. I was more terrified than hurt and the second one didn’t hurt at all. We lived our childhood lives knowing that the belt awaited us if we crossed the behavioral lines that were set for us. All our friends were raised the same way. Turning corporal punishment into criminal behavior is crazy and does a great disservice.
I definitely think Amy could write a book. I think she has a lot to say. I think maybe some of that perspective can come from childhood into adulthood. Seeing how Jim Bob is acting now maybe bringing up memories from childhood.
The Duggar's commit and cover up many crimes........in plain sight. It's always surprising that people who believe in hell are often the very people who belong there.
Ya'll are gonna hate me but Amy seems to always makes it about her. This was really about the duggar girls and the IBLP something Amy wasn't completely involved in. Like she always needs to add something new to say or "get to ana" when it feels more like her only way to a spotlight to keep talking. Where else Jill, is quieter and that's actually the person you wish you could hear from.
8:57 they might not call it Bible school, but they have a week long Bible camp. The Forsyth’s just worked at one for their church a few weeks ago. They filmed it on their channel.
I have a couple of issue with Amy. Before I state the issues, I will say I have always liked Amy. She is funny and seems real. Issue one: She was an adult on the show. If she saw child a*use, she didn’t report it. Issue two: She did not allow the a*use she witnessed affect capitalizing on the Duggar name. Amy went to Nashville to try to break into country music and The Duggars seemed to support her, encouraged her. Same for Amy’s mother. Neither minded using the name. They kept Amy at arm’s length? If that’s true, how does she know so much about the a*use? Amy and Deanna were more than willing to suck up the limelight while ignoring the a*use.
To add to that, she is still making money off using their name. She's been going by Amy Duggar King for years now. She could just go by Amy King but let's be honest, less people would recognize that name. I liked her on the show but I really struggle trying to respect her now. Speaking out against them seems like more of a ploy for fame and money, especially when she's still using the Duggar name.
Adding...didn't she say (paraphrasing) in the doc that whenever she was there growing up everything seemed happy other than that her aunt and uncle were strict?
Trust me, spanking wasn't just in the south 30 yrs ago. When I was a kid we got the belt. And it was called a whippin. Sometimes had to pick our own switch, like from a willow tree. But it wasn't called encouragement, that's for sure! It was a threat. I have to say when we got a"whippin" we didn't do whatever it was we did wrong again
I agree, Derrick called into the talk show knowing that if JimBob wasn't listening, he would "catch wind" of it. Derrick likes to get under JimBob's skin. Good for Derrick and Jill for success. It is not easy for some people to become debt free. If you come from wealth, obviously, you have a huge advantage in that department.
I know that the Bates are also IBLP also, however they seem to be happier, the little boys were actually a little on the meaner side, lol, Jud, Jed , and other smaller ones. The girls skirts and dresses even when they’re at home were on the shorter size, Above the knee. My Dad was a Free Will Baptist pastor and so were my in laws, and had no connection to the IBLP in any way, however we lived by the same strict rules, except we went to public schools. I was the oldest and only daughter. I wasn’t allowed to wear makeup, earrings, cut my hair, wear pants, could only listen to Gospel music and if my dad caught us listening to Southern Gospel records in the early 80’s with drums, he called it rock gospel and broke our records, 8-track or cassette. The boys weren’t allowed to wear shorts and their hair couldn’t touch their ears or shirt collar. We were whipped with switches mostly and very rarely belts. When I got in middle school and PE was required, I had to wear skirts, depending on the activity I would occasionally have to wear a safety pin in the middle of my skirt. The boys got by easy there because a lot of the boys wore sports pants instead of shorts anyway I had to take brothers with me when I got 16 to date, which had to be someone from church. I was made fun of so much and was never taught that God was a God of LOVE, only a man of wrath that I was terrified that if I had a bad thought he was sitting up there ready to zap me into hell. I married my husband 40 years ago at 17 years old! My Daddy was very abusive verbally and mentally, and if he lost his temper physically as well. I’m thankfully that I learned that more than fear, God was a God of Love. Sorry this was so long and scattered, however it did cause triggers. ONE BLESSED THING, THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS BLANKET TRAINING! Just the thought of that makes me cry! That’s cruel!!!!
@@WithoutACrystalBall I didn’t mean for it to sound like they were better, or that Gil wasn’t abusive, I just said they seemed more genuinely happy, Dress codes weren’t quite as strict. Like I said I lived that lifestyle and I promise that you cannot fully understand it until you’ve lived it! I pray that one day you will learn the true meaning of the love of God. If those of us that have lived that lifestyle can accept the truth about what the love of God is about, I know that God can prove His love is true. I don’t want anyone to miss out on that love, because there’s none other like it! I appreciate the support you gave me after I opened up publicly about the lifestyle I was raised for the first time publicly and even though it wasn’t attached to IBLP, we lived the same lifestyle and I suffer the same consequences that they do. I did see some of my friends with whom we v went to church get hit with whatever the Dad could get his hands on the quickest. Also my brothers didn’t require chaperones for their dates, whether you meant to or not you made me never want to open up about my feelings again !
I honestly think Jill would rather not talk/write about it, for public consumption. Unfortunately, if she doesn't, the WILD speculation gets worse by the minute. I think she wants to just get it out there, in her own words, and then put it to rest. Just my opinion...
@@gottabme good point. I remember in the documentary Shiny Happy People, (and I may be wrong) but I think Jill said that she and her husband got death threats. That's in and of itself why they're keeping a low profile.
@@buffys3477 I remember hearing and seeing that on the Amazon Prime documentary Shiny Happy People. Not necessarily Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, BUT definitely those who sympathize with the Duggar patriarchy.
My opinion about Amy is that she needs to be taken with a grain of salt. What she is saying now does not match with what she has said. One of her interviews she talks about the Duggars house was always her favorite place to be. So if that is the case then how was she fearful? If iam fearful about something or a place then it would not be my favorite place. I think she likes to be in the spotlight. My opinion only.
I went to vacation Bible school for 4 summers. It was the first Baptist church near our house. I was raised in the Mormon Church, my mother was raised HARD core Baptist. I enjoyed Bible school until the 4th year , we were asked to memorize scriptures every year. The 4th year we were told if we did not memorize a scripture and recite it every day or we couldn't go to the weekly weiner roast. My mother was a rebel. She never sent us back.
We got spanked when I was a kid, back them most kids did, but my dad's best friend really wailed on his kids. It was so scary and awkward. He would tell my dad he was too soft on usl
Katie, would you please give a run down how the people you are reporting on are related to the Duggar’s or others? I find it hard to keep track sometimes who is related to who by marriage or blood. Thanks!!
I would never read her book! She is unable to craft a coherent sentence. “Reflection” of her voice!? Yikes! I support her speaking out against the IBLP, but this interview does not speak to her intelligence. I hope it is not because she was also educated with her cousins.
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This needs to be investigated because if you look deep in those kids eyes they were broken. I am proud of Amy and Deanna
That's exactly right. It has to be. It's a legal and moral obligation for law enforcement to do so.
Go Amy and Deanna! Please keep speaking out. We can't let this go--the IBLP has too much influence on local and national politics as well as Evangelical churches.
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@@kimoandrews5802 Well I take offense to that, I'm a Proud Christian MAGA Deplorable!! It's God Family and Country!! We are not and never will be a Cult like these people. The punishment that this cult embodies are disgusting and should be charged for Child endangerment and cruelty. But these kids are grown adults now, and they still choose to stay that's on them. And I Pray one day before it's
too late they open there eye's and ear's and hear the true Gospel of the Bible!
I always laughed when Amy went to the duggars home..you knew Jim Bob was uncomfortable with her there..I thought it was funny how Amy could make this strong man feel small..I've always thought Amy and her mom were amazing and I loved how Amy loved to get a rise out of Jim and Michelle..
I never watched the show, but I feel like putting Amy & Deanna on the show was meant to create minor drama, like give the viewers a contrast between the way Deanna was raising Amy vs JB & M were raising their kids. All with a heavy veil of secrecy and fakeness to hide the ab*se
@@ceciliabrown6341 they weren't on many episodes..but it was great with Amy on..I swear she looked forward to annoying Jim and Michelle..the girls loved her..which made it worse..lol
Funny, I thought the same thing when I use to watch. It all makes sense now.
Super happy for Amy and Deanna. I know some people are on the fence about them, but I feel that if they didn’t speak up, their silence would’ve been interpreted as tolerating what the Duggar parents did.
Amy is one of the ones willing to speak out. She owes JB & M nothing. So proud of her & her mom.
It’s crazy how far the drama has gone for the family!!! Josh is a monster and JB is a master manipulator!!! Amy is brave to tell the truth about her relatives!!!!
Josh is a product of abuse bc his family tried & controlled everything even from an infant. It damaged his sense of right from wrong & made him in the monster he is today. His siblings all have issues bc of the upbringing too. They just hide it better.
Amy is beautiful. She and her momma get virtual hugs for standing up to Jim Bob, a powerful man in their area, and sharing what they know and saw. I would love her to write a book telling her story.
I would definitely be interested in her story. She sounds like a very nice, kind person
I agree. I’d love to hear about Amy’s life. She’s so real and so outspoken and not afraid to speak her mind. It’s refreshing after hearing so much controlled responses from the 19 Kids and Counting side of the family. I’d love to know more about the bigger picture, the bigger story and the extended family. And not just their opinions about what we saw on tv, but about their own stories. Their own lives. Amy is special and I respect her. She’s not perfect and she doesn’t try to portray herself as such. It’s relatable and refreshing.
When will CPS step in and do something? My heart breaks for all the children who live in these Cults 💔
Makes me wonder if this is why Anna is in Texas.
Not only CPS, but also the FBI and the IRS. The financial "conduct" is more criminal than moral or legal.
@@kimkrebs451no doubt Jim Bob Duggar wants to maintain power and control even though he kicked her and her kids out of the house.
CPS will only go in if a complaint is filed to investigate and determine if there is a problem.
@@cynthiabrent6479 very true
I would absolutely read a book by Amy and I can't wait for Jills book.
Same!
I definitely would love to hear her take on this. If there us a second series and they do dive into how Josh turned out the way he did, I'm sure it will be well viewed.
Daddy taught him
Gothard and the IBLP teachings cause males to have no respect for females. Females are denigrated by the IBLP.
I can’t imagine my parents telling me I had to stand next to the brother that “abused” me for a family photo. If my brother did something like that my parents wouldn’t have allowed him to be anywhere near me let alone in a family picture. Jim Bob and Michelle are really sick. Why they were not investigated by CPS when all of this “hit the fan”, and the family still had a dozen under age kids at home, is beyond me. The statute of limitations might have run out on the crime Josh committed but the kids still needed parents that would protect them, and if they refused to then the kids should have been taken away.
CPS has def dropped the ball here!! Just because the parents have that "Christian" facade they get away with behaviour that is damaging to their kids!
@@susanmagalas3074honestly it's deeper than that. Our system is broken.
Cps or sca joke.
Money talks
@@susanmagalas3074 than thanks god we live in n the USA. People in the country can worship and ededucate there kids in accordance with their faith.. FREEDOM OF RELIGION we don't have to agree or approve
If I could speak to Anna I would say 'Sins that happen in darkness need to be brought into the light. This is the right thing before God, for the victim and also for the perpetrator. It keeps God's precious ones safer, helps the perpetrator by making further sin more difficult to commit, it promotes humility and so removes some of the temptation whilst also allowing for accountability. God disciplines the ones he loves.' This applies to each of us as witnesses as well each of us as sinners. It is a hard counsel and does not necessarily involve shouting from the rooftops to the entire world. We need to earnestly and sincerely pray for the right people with faith and integrity to come alongside us.
I'm glad you girls keep speaking out about your mistreatment
She must know something if jimbob made her sign an NDA
Well it’s not much fun to be around relatives that probably think you’re sinful and going to the devil! Poor Amy!❤
Especially considering she’s never lived the life of a “rebel!” She’s the very definition of a good person!
I remember seeing an interview with her. She said, I'm a Christian, I go to church, I'm not a criminal, I don't hurt others-especially children. Why am I made out to be a rebel, un Godly and sinful? (Paraphrasing here) I agree, she is a very good person. I feel bad that she was used as a negative example.
People that target others usually are doing something even worse. I never follow what another person says about someone that I literally see as a good person regardless if everyone else treats them poorly. I see people. I see their true intentions. Amy didn't deserve to be called bad bc they literally had all this they were all hiding.
Yet Any was on their tv show a lot. So she must have enjoyed and loved the family.
How have they not had their kids taken away from them
Where they live it won't happen. Bible Belt is spare the rod, ruin the kid country.
Because of the influence of the IBLP in Arkansas politics.
what do u want them taken away for. josh was the bad seed. jb may not be a great person but what have they done to endanger their kids
@kathymiller6232 Well, let's start with blanket training, not giving them a functional education, not allowing the kids to have an opinion that differed from theirs, allowing Josh to sexually assault some of the girls without meaningful consequences, forcing the girls to go on the Megan Kelly interview against the girls wishes. I'm sure if I sat down and concentrated, I could name others.
We may not agree with their lives, but we also legalized abortion. Its about choice.
As someone who has a degree in early childhood education & also 4 children of my own, I can't tell you how angry the Duggar's & their cult makes me! In college we were taught how to work with children without instilling fear and physical punishment on them. How would you feel if you found out your child's teacher frightened or hit your child? That teacher would likely be fired at the very least. Yet the Duggar's inflict physical & emotional abuse on their own children from the time they're babies.
OMG! I went to a Catholic school and there was corporal punishment. We did learn respect for parents, teachers or any authority figure ... Not like the kids today. Lots of snowflakes that have no respect and the world revolves around them. They cant function in society today.
I started public school in 1983 and myself and my peers feared some of our Teacher's and definitely our bus drivers. Physical altercations occurred between Teacher's and students. And 2 bus drivers in particular, were feared. Respect or fear.? We knew when to sit down and shut up. In Jr. High there was a fist fight between a 6 grade student and the math teacher. Real punches. The Teacher was Teaching the next day and didn't get any grief about it. Idk many "nice" Teacher's from my childhood.
Hit your kids so they don’t turn into snowflakes? Did I read that correctly?
@sharynkoren2054 Yeah, teachers have no business hitting children but parents need to teach their children to respect teachers and adults but also teach them its ok to say no and it's ok to tell if someone is doing something you know is wrong.Duggar beliefs are so so wrong and they don't protect their children they hurt their children and teach them to respect adults even if they do wrong. So messed up. If Jos Duggar ever touch one of my kids I would gladly go to jail after I unlived him because that is the only way to stop someone like Josh Duggar and to be honest JimBoob needs to go as well he the king of the monsters.
When I was in elementary school, the principal swatted the bad kids with a paddle, if they were sent to the office. I never wanted that to happen to me, so I was always well behaved. Besides, if I were to get in trouble, it would have been worse when I got home.
Michelle's sing-songy way of talking to her children is creepy and it feels like gaslighting to me.
Great job Amy and Deanna!!! Please keep up the good work! This cult needs to be exposed! The abuse needs to be investigated. Treating children like this is not biblical!
"Jim Bob would not let her."
That is deranged.
I wonder what Mary Duggar thought of all of this
Seems her life with JBs dad was not healthy.
@@BildgesmytheI doubt she was even allowed to have much to say… it also seems they became more extreme as JB and his family gained more notoriety. I always felt they were easily lead.
Wait, how did he stop her from being on DWTS?
That was my question, too. Why in the world would he have a say in what Amy, as an adult, did.
Right!
Maybe Jim Bob told her he would cut her and her mother off from the family if she did it. Amy was close to some of her cousins and the thought of losing her family was maybe just to much for her then. Now she is taking her stand. I’m just speculating.
Greetings from NY! ❤
Hello there!
Im interested in Amy's book.
I am so happy there is going to be a season 2 to Shiny Happy People. I hope there is one documentary after another on this cult until Gothard is in jail and IBLP no longer exists. Of course cults like this are a game of whack-a-mole where one gets destroyed only to have an identical new one pop up.
There a show for Josh and Anna Love after lock up.. Sorry just seen that on the sign behind amy,,,,
@dnett5917 that's what I've always thought
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
1st!! She revealed quite a bit in SHP. Can't wait to hear more.
I wonder if Jill and Derrick are just decompressing from bringing all this to the forefront
CPS needs to have an open supervision case on this family and someone needs to take that stupid rod away from them. From what I can see, Josie is a special needs child. If they use the rod on her or otherwise inflict pain to “train” her then shame on them. Someone please stop these morons. How much longer are we going to talk about them? We know enough to to intervene. This kind of parenting should be openly condemned by professionals and churches everywhere. CPS could at the very least require them to put their kids in public school and take parenting classes. Some day these kids are going to ask why nothing was done.
You're absolutely right, in my opinion. Disgraceful stuff.
I had terrible memorization issues as a child in our church and I stood up to the adults when they got upset with me for reading a verse instead of reciting. I took them to task for that and they admitted they didn't listen bc they wanted to instill the discipline of memory. I said "well, find another way". They ended up giving the kids a choice whether they read or recited anything.
Hello,from Montana.
Great video! I'm glad Amy and her mom are continuing to speak out. I miss your beautiful face, Katie!
HOW COULD HER UNCLE STOP HER FROM DOING ANYTHING?
I want to thank you for all of your scoops. You are so professional and informative. So many of the topics are deep and complicated. I can tell you really do your homework! GREAT JOB!!
Are you familiar with families that have a "switch" tree/bush? I mean that to me is a very southern thing. Going out and getting your own switch and having to bring back a "good one" to get whipped with. Did not happen to me, but I have several friends that grew up like that. I'm from Ohio, and my neighbors growing up had a "switch" bush.
I'm from ohio too but grew up going outside to get a switch too. Grandparents moved from GA.
From the south here and I had to do that many times
Well it happened to me. Picked my own switch! Very southern. But I survived lol!
Yes! This is a real thing. This is a very southern thing, and was also common in the southern black home in the 90s and before. My grandmother and grandfather would have us go pick a switch when we would cut up. We had to choose a good one too, otherwise they would go retrieve one they found fit. I can’t say it left me with any long lasting trauma, as this was seen widely as “normal”. But I definitely do not use this type of punishment with my children. Never even used a belt, to be honest! All of those things were very common. Spare the rod, spoil the child mentality
Why did Jim Bob have a say about her going on DWTS? I'm confused. Did I miss something? She was an adult by then and not his child. Why was he in charge of what Amy did?
Because Amy was a part of his contract with TLC. She was included with all of his kids and Michelle Etc. And if TLC didn't like Dancing with the Stars or Jill and Derick in Central America then they could say no. Jim Bob had final say on what Direction the shows would go. And he would never have approved of Dancing With the Stars.
There's no dancing in the IBLP. It's too risqué. Ironic given all of the actual terrible stuff they have going on, but yep. No dancing.
A little off topic, but Katie Joy--back on the old TV W/O Pity boards (iirc) someone speculated that before the show there were many Duggar kids who'd never been to a store--that Michelle would drive the mini bus to a friends and one of the older girls would sit in the bus with the little ones while they napped. That Michelle had an active social life and the girls were the babysitters.
Amy and Deanna deserve a voice after all the crap theyve been through
I do not feel like I was abused as a child even though I was spanked with whatever was closest to my mom’s hand. Wooden spoons, flyswatters, belts. Sometimes we even had the hand cut switch from the woods! Looking back, I hated that my parents thought incorporating total fear and control were the best methods. I did not use those techniques with my own children. I never wanted them to fear me. Usually.😉
I think Amy is basically a decent person, but I watched all the shows and she was always eager to be a part of them. She went on every trip, she used the show to talk about her Nashville trips, when she tried to break into Show Business. She was more than willing to use every Duggar contact in Branson and elsewhere to try and start a singing career. If she was really afraid of Jim Bob or Josh or anybody in their family, she could have stayed home.
Amy was a child. This was her family. Lighten up
Thank you!!
Famy is a bandwagoner!!
@@lorimill187 in all fairness, Amy was born out of wedlock. So her legal last name was Duggar. Her father was in an out of her life and in and out of a relationship with her mother. They did eventually marry but ended up divorced.
You definitely needed one of those “S” filters on the microphone for this one 😮 I have ASD and those super sharp sounds is a trigger 😖 (🤣 just typing “super sharp sounds” made my ears hurt 😂).
Other than that this was one of your best Dugger episodes to date! Great job!
Also, although I love your editing and photo choices, I can’t wait to see your face again! You somehow seem more relaxed, your voice and speech more fluid and confident when you’re not on camera.
So sad!
I'd like to see the cross over between her life with her mom & dad & her aunt & uncle. Like what kind of crap did Jim Bob & Michelle try to plant in her head as the situation with her dad got worse? I could see them trying to use that to pull her into the IBLP, obviously it didn't work but I bet there are some interesting stories there.
josh didnt assault amy because she would have fought back. interesting. perhaps he cheats on anna because he knows she wont fight back?
Who taught Anna that she is not worth sticking up for?
@@pinkiesue849 every time she put up with Josh's betrayals she taught him that she would put up with it.
Scripture memory doesn't program you. It is very helpful when your scared, anxious, or depressed.
We have to remember that none of these people, (young ones) have been so washed in the IBLP that they don’t know much of the outside. This young lady knows. I think it’s great she’s standing by them through this tough stuff.
Sooner than later, ALL of JBs kids will come forward.
I’ll bet ANYTHING that JB REGRETS having Amy ever appear on their show!
Especially knowing that she was raised differently ( not IBLP) but CERTAINLY NEVER thought that she would end up writing a book ( Oh Dear God !) describing any secrets regarding punishments doled out by JB and Michelle and what the vibe of the Dugger home REALLY was….yep…he TOTALLY Regrets letting her step one foot in front of that camera! 🥹🥹🥹😜😜😜
I’m confused! Why did JB have ANY say in if Amy did Dancing With The Stars? He’s a nothing to her except a Uncle and not a good one at that. Why, why, why did he have a say?
I like Amy. You can tell by her reactions when she was young and was hanging out at the compound. She would make faces at some of the BS that went on there
It's crazy you mention that you are almost breaking 340 K subscribers when I subscribed right when you were passing over the 200k finish line. 😊 I'm sure Josh really helped you to grow to this new number so fast. Well done for all your searching, gathering and presenting of data people are interested in! 👏
I love Amy and Deanna, they have so much sparkle! ✨
Hi Katie, did you have any commentary about the Bobye & Jim Holt protection order? I just heard about this after watching a shiny happy people YT commentary video.
Amy mentions the fact that her cousins missed out on social activities but what about the fact that all of these children missed out on an education!! None of these kids ever got the opportunity to see where a formal education could have taken them. Who knows if they could have been doctors or lawyers or scientists. I'm betting there will be lots of regrets as they get older and realize how they never got to develop into independent, functioning members of society - not just more stepford people for the church.
I don’t doubt what Amy says about the family is true; but I am sorry, as I think she is milking this for all it’s worth. Of course she’s doing every interview she can, and of course she is thinking of writing a book too, because why miss out on a golden opportunity?
She was not under Jim Bob’s rule, so how did he stop her from going on “Dancing with the Stars,” and how could he force her to go to marriage boot camp? She went under him because at the time he was still her best ticket to fame, and she thought he could still promote her.
I don’t doubt she feels passionate about what she is saying and that she is concerned about her cousins, but I can’t help feeling she is enjoying the attention. For what it is worth, I am glad she and her mom are speaking out; but I won’t be reading her book if she writes one. She already said what she had to say about her famous relatives, and she is just not that interesting on her own.
She was probably under Jim Bob's TLC contract and was "not allowed" to take the time off and/or "not allowed" to go on such a show like DWTS. A show such as this is probably very sinful from Jim Bob's point of view, and he would fear that an appearance on that show would taint the Duggar's "shiny happy" image.
I’m not a Duggar fan, but Amy had no problem showing up for the cameras and using the last name Duggar when she wasn’t born a Duggar. She had nothing negative to say about her family publicly until the shtf
Amy was NEVER a part of IBLP so she has nothing to add to about situation.
And she has NOT been a friend of the Duggars in MANY years. So she has NO inside info to add about their family.
I remember Amy had a few TLC shows where she went to Nashville to try to make it as a singer. I remember she was close to the Duggars then. The Duggars even appeared on her show to garner ratings for her. So she used the Duggars for that cross promotion.
For many, many years Amy has done interviews and magazines articles against the Duggars. She has NOTHING new to say about them because again she has not been a part of their lives so she need to stop giving interviews to keep her face out there.
Go away Amy and stop riding the Duggar's coattails. I cant imagne what she has to write a book about. BYE, BYE!!
You called it just the other day. Every day, something a little more alarming. We knew about many of these things, but many of the skeletons are now starting to be seen in much more clarity.
Go Amy
❤ katie
I am from Canada
If there is a season 2 I hope more families are exposed.
I am skeptical of Amy. I’m not taking away from her that she may have experienced trauma. I just also feel like she learned well from JB how to be opportunistic. It does take courage to speak out - especially in such a public way. But what does she have to lose at this point? She is already estranged from the family. I dunno. Praying for all the victims.
I think Amy likes the attention.
This is interesting because my mom signed me up for a summer camp once and there was no mention of anything religious. But in order to go and eat lunch, you had to memorize a bible verse of the instructor’s choosing. I was such a nervous kid speaking in front of people and I kept screwing it up. Everyone else got to eat lunch. I missed archery and horseback riding. Finally I recited it in front of several instructors who were all trying to figure out what my problem with God was, in time to get on the bus to go home. I cried and hugged my mom when I got off the bus and I never went back. She was furious. I don’t think she ever got her money back either. But she never made me go back. The verse, and they paraphrased it a bit, “in my father’s house there are many mansions, if there were not would I have told you? I go there to prepare a place for you. I will come again” John 14:2 & 3 I get triggered at funerals by this as it brings me back to that time. It seems silly but I cried so hard and felt so stupid because I couldn’t remember all of it perfectly as they needed to hear it.
I am very sorry you went through that. Please know all Christians are not that way. I went to a Christian summer camp for a few summers as a kid, but never had that type of experience. I wish it had been fun for you, but now, you can at least understand it wasn't you, it was THEM!❤✌️
I live in SC and in my school (primary) my principal had a huge paddle made of wood and that's what happened to you if you were disruptive. They didn't even need parental permission.
I live in Arkansas and same…
I do feel a lot of compassion for Amy and Deanna even though Amy gets a lot of backlash for seeking attention, she continues to stand up for those who would face rejection from their family and therefore she takes the hit for them. This can happen not only when your family is in a cult but simply for standing up against a narcissist or someone who is harmful. I know this all to well as my father is with a narcissist and I am now deleted and ignored from someone she knows because they didn't agree with me standing up for myself and other family members and kept telling me to compromise and have compassion completely dismissing and gaslighting anything I said. For a few moments it made my blood boil so I cannot imagine what Amy Deanna and Jill go through.
what I have noticed is the sort of deadness in Jana’s eyes. she smiles only a bit with her mouth. It does not go up to her eyes.
Hmm… I do like Amy because I believe a lot of what she is saying to be true, but I also think she is milking this for all it’s work. We get it. Close this chapter girl. How is it that she’s saying more than Jill or Jinger?
Spanking kids is not a crime or wrong. It must be appropriate, but it is a tool that serves a purpose and helps children learn about actions and consequences in a way that “timeout” doesn’t. My dad spanked me twice. I was more terrified than hurt and the second one didn’t hurt at all. We lived our childhood lives knowing that the belt awaited us if we crossed the behavioral lines that were set for us. All our friends were raised the same way. Turning corporal punishment into criminal behavior is crazy and does a great disservice.
I definitely think Amy could write a book. I think she has a lot to say. I think maybe some of that perspective can come from childhood into adulthood. Seeing how Jim Bob is acting now maybe bringing up memories from childhood.
We all miss seeing you live on screen… How is everything going with your eye/eyebrow healing process? Wishing you all the best!😊
The Duggar's commit and cover up many crimes........in plain sight. It's always surprising that people who believe in hell are often the very people who belong there.
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Ya'll are gonna hate me but Amy seems to always makes it about her. This was really about the duggar girls and the IBLP something Amy wasn't completely involved in. Like she always needs to add something new to say or "get to ana" when it feels more like her only way to a spotlight to keep talking. Where else Jill, is quieter and that's actually the person you wish you could hear from.
Jill will speak out next year-when her book comes out.
Oops... cousins 😊(not nieces)
9:20 I know that the local IFB/IBLP churches around here do VBS. I’ve seen kids be absolutely terrified of going to hell after leaving.
8:57 they might not call it Bible school, but they have a week long Bible camp. The Forsyth’s just worked at one for their church a few weeks ago. They filmed it on their channel.
I have a couple of issue with Amy.
Before I state the issues, I will say I have always liked Amy.
She is funny and seems real.
Issue one: She was an adult on the show. If she saw child a*use, she didn’t report it.
Issue two: She did not allow the a*use she witnessed affect capitalizing on the Duggar name.
Amy went to Nashville to try to break into country music and The Duggars seemed to support her, encouraged her.
Same for Amy’s mother.
Neither minded using the name.
They kept Amy at arm’s length?
If that’s true, how does she know so much about the a*use?
Amy and Deanna were more than willing to suck up the limelight while ignoring the a*use.
To add to that, she is still making money off using their name. She's been going by Amy Duggar King for years now. She could just go by Amy King but let's be honest, less people would recognize that name. I liked her on the show but I really struggle trying to respect her now. Speaking out against them seems like more of a ploy for fame and money, especially when she's still using the Duggar name.
Thank you for raising these issues. I don’t mean to be so critical of Amy, but she made good off the Duggar name.
Adding...didn't she say (paraphrasing) in the doc that whenever she was there growing up everything seemed happy other than that her aunt and uncle were strict?
Exactly! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has felt this way!!!!!
Why is Amy’s last name Duggar instead of Jordan?
How can josh go in prison and come out with no restrictions ?
A book about what? How much material can she have?
Josh is so disgusting! He is right about one thing, though. Amy would have fought back She would have kicked Josh's a$$.
He was afraid of her! I love it!
@@gottabme You know it! I love it too.
First ! How are you feeling today, Katie ? 💜💙💙💛🧡♥️
Trust me, spanking wasn't just in the south 30 yrs ago. When I was a kid we got the belt. And it was called a whippin. Sometimes had to pick our own switch, like from a willow tree. But it wasn't called encouragement, that's for sure! It was a threat. I have to say when we got a"whippin" we didn't do whatever it was we did wrong again
I was a "belt and switches" kid, myself!
Some of the individual churches do have vacation bible school and don't use main stream vacation bible school curriculum.
I agree, Derrick called into the talk show knowing that if JimBob wasn't listening, he would "catch wind" of it. Derrick likes to get under JimBob's skin. Good for Derrick and Jill for success. It is not easy for some people to become debt free. If you come from wealth, obviously, you have a huge advantage in that department.
I wonder what the film crew witnessed?
Oh god! That will be awful for you!
Oh my goodness... "you even haven't had a marguerita"? 😂nor have I, but I don't care to either.
I know that the Bates are also IBLP also, however they seem to be happier, the little boys were actually a little on the meaner side, lol, Jud, Jed , and other smaller ones. The girls skirts and dresses even when they’re at home were on the shorter size, Above the knee.
My Dad was a Free Will Baptist pastor and so were my in laws, and had no connection to the IBLP in any way, however we lived by the same strict rules, except we went to public schools. I was the oldest and only daughter. I wasn’t allowed to wear makeup, earrings, cut my hair, wear pants, could only listen to Gospel music and if my dad caught us listening to Southern Gospel records in the early 80’s with drums, he called it rock gospel and broke our records, 8-track or cassette. The boys weren’t allowed to wear shorts and their hair couldn’t touch their ears or shirt collar.
We were whipped with switches mostly and very rarely belts. When I got in middle school and PE was required, I had to wear skirts, depending on the activity I would occasionally have to wear a safety pin in the middle of my skirt. The boys got by easy there because a lot of the boys wore sports pants instead of shorts anyway I had
to take brothers with me when I got 16 to date, which had to be someone from church.
I was made fun of so much and was never taught that God was a God of LOVE, only a man of wrath that I was terrified that if I had a bad thought he was sitting up there ready to zap me into hell. I married my husband 40 years ago at 17 years old! My Daddy was very abusive verbally and mentally, and if he lost his temper physically as well.
I’m thankfully that I learned that more than fear, God was a God of Love. Sorry this was so long and scattered, however it did cause triggers.
ONE BLESSED THING, THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS BLANKET TRAINING! Just the thought of that makes me cry! That’s cruel!!!!
Gil bates is abusive and they aren’t better
@@WithoutACrystalBall I didn’t mean for it to sound like they were better, or that Gil wasn’t abusive, I just said they seemed more genuinely happy, Dress codes weren’t quite as strict. Like I said I lived that lifestyle and I promise that you cannot fully understand it until you’ve lived it! I pray that one day you will learn the true meaning of the love of God. If those of us that have lived that lifestyle can accept the truth about what the love of God is about, I know that God can prove His love is true. I don’t want anyone to miss out on that love, because there’s none other like it! I appreciate the support you gave me after I opened up publicly about the lifestyle I was raised for the first time publicly and even though it wasn’t attached to IBLP, we lived the same lifestyle and I suffer the same consequences that they do. I did see some of my friends with whom we v went to church get hit with whatever the Dad could get his hands on the quickest. Also my brothers didn’t require chaperones for their dates, whether you meant to or not you made me never want to open up about my feelings again !
@@LuLuDavis65 I’m glad you are out & were able to share.
I suspect that the reason Jill and Derrick are keeping a low profile is because of what happened to them, especially Jill. One can't really blame her.
I honestly think Jill would rather not talk/write about it, for public consumption. Unfortunately, if she doesn't, the WILD speculation gets worse by the minute. I think she wants to just get it out there, in her own words, and then put it to rest. Just my opinion...
@@gottabme good point. I remember in the documentary Shiny Happy People, (and I may be wrong) but I think Jill said that she and her husband got death threats. That's in and of itself why they're keeping a low profile.
@@buffys3477 true. However, when one's life is in danger...uh, that's when one takes precautions.
@@buffys3477 I remember hearing and seeing that on the Amazon Prime documentary Shiny Happy People. Not necessarily Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, BUT definitely those who sympathize with the Duggar patriarchy.
My opinion about Amy is that she needs to be taken with a grain of salt. What she is saying now does not match with what she has said. One of her interviews she talks about the Duggars house was always her favorite place to be. So if that is the case then how was she fearful? If iam fearful about something or a place then it would not be my favorite place. I think she likes to be in the spotlight. My opinion only.
I would look love to see you interview Amy!! Even if it was to promote her book!!! Love your content Ms. Katie
I went to vacation Bible school for 4 summers. It was the first Baptist church near our house. I was raised in the Mormon Church, my mother was raised HARD core Baptist. I enjoyed Bible school until the 4th year , we were asked to memorize scriptures every year. The 4th year we were told if we did not memorize a scripture and recite it every day or we couldn't go to the weekly weiner roast. My mother was a rebel. She never sent us back.
We got spanked when I was a kid, back them most kids did, but my dad's best friend really wailed on his kids. It was so scary and awkward. He would tell my dad he was too soft on usl
Katie, would you please give a run down how the people you are reporting on are related to the Duggar’s or others? I find it hard to keep track sometimes who is related to who by marriage or blood. Thanks!!
Amy's mom is Jim Bob's sister. Amy is first cousins to the Duggar kids. (If that's what you wanted to know about.) ✌️
I would never read her book! She is unable to craft a coherent sentence. “Reflection” of her voice!? Yikes! I support her speaking out against the IBLP, but this interview does not speak to her intelligence. I hope it is not because she was also educated with her cousins.
How did Jim Bob have a say in Amy’s life and choices
I'm shocked the Duggars even showed up to Amy's wedding with her giant eye traps! To them her top is pretty much naked.